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[Survival Show] I-LAND - Episode 4
Added 2020-08-22 12:30:59 +0000 UTCEpisode 4, where I-LANDERs and GROUNDERs clash for the first time.
I like how they all didn't even flinch their muscles when both camps came on stage, you can really feel how serious the trainees take the competition now. Also really like how happy Rain was this episode LOL
Comments
Thank you so much for this comment, I've been wondering about if I should change my approach to things lately and if I was overly rude or something. I really started believing I am. I try to be nice, but sometimes I have a "curveball opinion" and I gotta let it out as raw as possible. That's just how I am and how I like to share things. I'm happy to see people still like that :) Thank you, you made my day!
cru3l tmo
2024-06-03 00:25:15 +0000 UTCi'm very late to this but i'm happy with you and your comment and stand strong in your opinion. everyone have their own opinion and this is a private space, so i don't think you need to not to be true to yourself and your opinion because one or two of your patreon don't agree with your opinion. i like how you stand strong.
Yocchi Mae
2024-06-02 18:57:51 +0000 UTCIt's absolutely fine to comment your own opinion on the matter. It's the way you worded it that makes it in my eyes immature. You don't realize what "hate" actually means. This is a reaction that is closed behind a pay-wall and for my fans. I react to it in private. Nobody is projecting my opinion from this one video here onto the public and actually inflicts harm on anyone else, let alone Niki himself. Someone writing a tweet about the same topic inflicts an insurmountable amount of more "hate" in 10 seconds of time. On top of that you say I should watch "FoT"'s reaction to this because his criticism is actually valid. Not only do you 1) assume I follow FoT or 2) think I should pledge my support to them and watch the video just so my opinion has value but also 3) you are neglecting that my opinion has any value. Saying this to anyone about any type and form of opinion is just a super dumb take and it shows that you haven't learnt yet that everyone's opinion is valuable and has its place. You are clearly showing that you are only accepting that one stance on things in this matter and you are now trying to backpaddle on your own opinion because you realize that you yourself went overboard. You literally threw hate and shame on me for having an opinion while trying at the same time to also share an opinion. What do you expect me to do now? Just accept your opinion? I'm not even sure why I talk with you about this because there's a below 10% chance this leads to a fruitful discussion in the first place. Guess I'm particularly bored today lol.
cru3l tmo
2021-02-27 16:00:53 +0000 UTCI’m judging off as the reactions go on ? as i said earlier, the reason why i commented, was bc of you calling niki toxic & manipulative. why would I “accept” someone saying hateful and rude things abt a kid? and how would that make me immature? it’s nice that you changed your ‘opinion’ on him but that’s obviously not the case for this specific ep, hence my comment.
🌙 jaerin
2021-02-27 14:49:07 +0000 UTCIt's my opinion vs. your opinion. Not accepting someone else's point of view of writing a comment where it's clearly evident you don't accept any other opinion on this is indeed close-minded or rather immature. I don't see the reason why you would feel the need to defend a trainee that I thought was legitimately arrogant here. I hate arrogance no matter for what reason so I will point it out when it happens. He might have had good intentions and of course he is young, but I can still talk about it no? Again, if you would have seen my general opinion on Niki from start to finish you would notice that I gave him plenty of chances and that I indeed began to change my opinion and root for him mid-way through the show. He was one of only two trainees I wanted 100% to make it into the final group and imo he is by far the best dancer. Was he still arrogant early on? Absolutely yes. Do I like him regardless now because he learned from it? Yes. But since you are judging off of one episode and clearly have a very blindsided opinion on the matter, it makes sense you come to this conclusion. There's just no need to be rude here, cus you're not really giving off a strong point if you are basing your arguments on hate yourself without knowing the big picture of things. Basically: don't get butthurt over someone else's fracture of an opinion - either find the other pieces of their opinion before taking your stance or comment in a way that is less rude and we can have a normal, grounded discussion about things.
cru3l tmo
2021-02-27 14:40:13 +0000 UTCmy comment, defending a trainee who was 13/14 and had more critical/unfiltered thoughts (on a survival show) is not close-minded. and i haven’t watched all of them, but the comments towards niki (calling him toxic, manipulative etc.) when he was trying to prevent the team from failing is why i commented this.
🌙 jaerin
2021-02-27 13:57:17 +0000 UTCIt's an opinion. I don't need to explain myself further. I see you disagree with that and that's fine. You clearly have not watched all of my other reactions to I-LAND or else you wouldn't make such a close-minded comment. Or would you?
cru3l tmo
2021-02-27 13:50:49 +0000 UTCik you’re finished w/ the show now but niki was literally right tho? this show is a competition for them to debut not a show for friendships or sucking up to people who are just not good . when he said to think of the team, it was professional and not toxic. niki does doesn’t filter his thoughts which a lot of people tend to do which can come off as arrogant but he’s critically right. also, he was literally 13/14, him hearing that he’s the best dancer would obviously boost his ego at that age (especially in a survival show). but either way, there was no reason to legitimately HATE on a 14 y/o. + you should watch formoftherapy’s reaction to this bc everything they say is from a professional pov (and their criticism is actually right)
jennielvr_
2021-02-27 13:08:17 +0000 UTCHehe, thank you! In case Episode 4 was the first one you watched with me, I watched the 3 before that too of course. Aswell as some other TV-Shows :)
cru3l tmo
2020-08-30 10:41:23 +0000 UTCI love I-land, so when I found out you were reacting to it on Patreon I knew I wanted to support you. Can't wait to see your reaction to other episodes!
Didi
2020-08-30 06:07:44 +0000 UTCGotcha. So I will just skip the special then. Seeing that it's also 1hour 20min long and now knowing it's nothing really new, that very easily convinced me haha. Although I like Namjoo and JooE is my Momoland bias. But it's no idols that are in my upper ends of my "tier list"/bias list, so I'll pass :)
cru3l tmo
2020-08-23 11:51:40 +0000 UTCI'm really trying not to dislike him, but it's literally impossible for me lol. I hate disrespectful and arrogant behavior, two of the things I dislike most in humans. And he doesn't show any signs of understanding or adaptation. Jay is so cool, I like him too. My favorites probably are Geonu, K, Daniel and Heeseung. But I like some of the Ground too. So far, if I had to pick anyone that I don't see making it into the final Top 12, then it's maybe Hanbin and Nicholas. They seem too inconsistent. There's more but I forgot names right now haha
cru3l tmo
2020-08-23 11:10:23 +0000 UTCAbout this episode, I had the same feeling about repetitiveness. Their voting system and tasks were barely changing in the Part 1. But it's getting more intense in episodes 6 and 7, at least for me. I wasn't as irritated by Nicki as you were while watching this, but I feel you. He is arrogant and immature. I could have justified it somehow by the fact that he's going through puberty, but can't be sure his temper will change after that. My favorites are Jay, Geonu, K and Daniel. And just for you to know, you mixed up Rain's songs "Rainism" and "It's raining" (this one was on RTK). Hope you will be able to check both originals one day.
sara_sarymsakova
2020-08-22 19:48:09 +0000 UTCLet me get this clear. There was a small gap in dates between 6th and 7th episodes because of online voting and some reconstruction in the I-Land. Moreover, episode 6 is the end of I-Land Part 1 and 7 is the beginning of Part 2. If we talk about the special episode, there are Kwang Hee from ZE:A, Nam Joo from Apink and JooE from Momoland as MCs who review everything that was happening during the Part 1. So, nothing new was shown actually. In my opinion this special isn't worth watching. You can start watching eposide 7 right after the 6th without any worries of losing something important. Hope I could help you with that.
sara_sarymsakova
2020-08-22 19:25:25 +0000 UTC
