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Prisoners of Sol 14

Spirits were high as we glided closer to the city. I tried to shake my feeling of unease and enjoy myself. I leaned my skull back, imagining that I was a dog sticking my head out the window. Mikri seemed relieved that I was back in the truck alongside him, and I decided against telling him that our proximity didn’t improve my odds of safety. My pupils turned toward the farmsteads we passed, where I saw one parent hurry a child away from the windows and shut the curtains. Out of the corner of my vision, I noticed my android friend following my gaze…and wondered if he understood.

Just a parent who loves their child and is trying to keep them safe. We can’t have Mikri mowing down civilians at will, so let’s hope he got our lesson. Once we secure the region, I’d be curious to try to talk to some of the common people, and compare them to the royals.

We might’ve expected to see more civilian traffic, as the roads branched out in suburbia; we cruised down the turnpike that offered a straight shot to the city. The maps we had of its layout were the images Khatun’s shuttle had captured on the way down, but that was enough to plot our course. The Asscar had retreated into the first city triangle, from what our drones could see, but had set out roadblocks and spike strips to obstruct us. They’d tried launching munitions and mortars at us, though we could intercept most of them. Our aircraft had been cleaving through theirs, which signaled that we’d found success on all fronts. Well, I couldn’t attest to our orbital efforts, I supposed. No reason to assume it was any different.

“We’re unstoppable!” Troy declared. “We got into a fistfight with tanks and won. Tell those fuckers to raise the white flags already.”

I shook my head. “Don’t go saying that. Our physics might make us strong as fuck here, but that’s a two-way street. We have to crush them, quick and fast. You understand that we have to be perfect, right? All it takes is one weapon getting through that portal and Earth is gone.”

“Why? We can shoot down all of their shit, piece of cake. Earth can defend itself.”

“Not from a spacetime-breaking missile—it doesn’t even have to be a missile, right? It could be a tiny asteroid fleck that they slingshotted out a cannon, and going that fast…no more Earth.”

“Preston is correct,” Mikri agreed. “Any object moving faster than the speed of light has infinite energy and requires infinite energy to slow down.”

Troy shrugged. “Then we just shoot our own countermeasures through the portal, also going FTL—infinite energy meets infinite energy, cancel it out.”

“That collision would destroy your universe, as it would release that infinite kinetic energy.”

“See? It’s not a joke,” I scoffed. “It’d make an antimatter bomb look like a birthday candle.”

“I did not understand this analogy, but I assume yes.”

“So we can’t give them a chance to get a single shot. That’s all they need.” I noticed several soldiers’ expressions turning serious, and cleared my throat. “We do have The Gate. Let’s just remember that it’s not fun and games. It’s very real.” 

While it’d be rather human to mock the Asscar up ahead and to gloat prematurely, that sort of pride was never a good thing. Our vehicle rolled up to the dense city, and the organic soldiers hopped out to clear the path ahead. Mikri tried to follow me, but I shook my head at him; I wanted my favorite tin can to stay back. Enemy soldiers had taken positions, and my dialed-in mind registered that they were about to shoot. Taking cover behind one of the roadblocks, rather than throwing it out of the way with my newfound strength, bullets peppered our position. I poked my barrel out to return fire, feeling debris fly onto my vest.

I cast a glance back to the truck, to ensure my Vascar friend wasn’t still trying to follow. Mikri had leapt into action after seeing me in peril, using shoulder-mounted rockets to shoot at the enemy. I chuckled to myself, as the force of our explosives sent the android flying backward off of the truckbed. This was why the humans needed to handle this. While we’d pulverized the soldiers back in the tanks, I had the idea of seeking their surrenders; we could afford to gather some intel from the prisoners, and it’d give Mikri a chance to learn about them alongside us. We needed to frighten them and get closer.

I lifted a roadblock and threw it at their position, finding it no heavier than a football; however, sending that to land on top of them with immaculate precision scattered them. I took the opportunity to speed closer to their position, firing shots at the moving blurs in my vision along the way. There were screams as more of our soldiers got the idea to chuck debris at them, which buried and crushed the aliens like it was nothing. The Asscar were beginning to show signs of fear toward us, backing away from us. I couldn’t deny that it was satisfying to feel godlike, and that a part of my psyche wanted to mimic Troy’s proclamation that we were untouchable.

“What the fuck even are they, Commander?” one hostile shouted. 

The Commander’s mane was scarcely visible behind a barricade, and he ducked as a shot grazed his fluffy hair. “I don’t fucking know, but we can’t let them get a hold of the EMP weapons! It’s critical for Prince Larimak’s entire plan against missiles, the silversheens; get the pulse generators out of here! There’s covert tunnels in that shipping center. Hold them back long enough to remove the cargo from sight.”

“But sir…”

“Those are your orders! Move!”

“We can’t outrun them.”

“That’s why we’re holding them back, dipshit.”

My interest was caught by that conversation we’d overheard, proving the advantage of our translator technology; it was fortunate that the duo were speaking loudly, shouting to be heard over the gunfire. The Asscar weren’t aware that we’d had a program given out to all of our soldiers, so we could tell exactly what they were saying. How amateurish regardless, as I did find their military to be bumbling fools; I didn’t know how Mikri’s people were losing to these buffoons. What I understood was that there was an asset we needed to intercept, before it made its way back to Larimak. The grunt had it right, that they couldn’t outrun us.

If Mikri gets a hole in his suit, those EMPs could be used against him, to fry him. At the very least, we can study the weapons to learn how to neutralize their defenses, and protect our android friends and Earth's technology from their effects. 

“Pursue them to the shipping center!” I shouted at my squadmates; the enemy didn’t have translations of our language yet, so we had the advantage in that regard. Well, come to think of it, they might’ve plucked that data off of Khatun’s corpse, after they disabled the camera. It didn’t matter. “Find the EMP weapons, and take them out of Larimak’s grubby claws. Don’t let these guys slow you down. If they think it’s critical, then so do we!”

Without any further ado, we charged the enemy’s position; caution was chucked to the wind. Grenades were lobbed ahead of us, with throws that flew as far as a baseball homerun. Perhaps I loved my sports metaphors a bit too much, but how else was I supposed to compare superhuman physical capabilities to normal stuff? I felt a bullet connect with my gut, but it didn’t seem much different than Mikri poking it with a claw. I wasn’t even staggered by this standard round, which meant the Kevlar had absorbed almost all of it. A few humans were struck in uncovered areas—for the most part, appendages. The side with corpses littering the ground wasn’t ours.

“Preston! Stop!” I heard Mikri scream. “Please come back! Wait for me.”

I risked a glance over my shoulder, despite being in the heat of combat; I did feel a bit guilty leaving the android in the dust, but he couldn’t match my speed. It wasn’t anyone’s fault. My preference was for the Vascar to stay back anyway, since despite him being made of polycarbonate and steel, he was the more fragile of the two of us. I held up a single finger to my metal friend, a gesture he knew meant “in a minute.” It was a poor idea to let him tag along, with how he constantly worried and fretted over me. He didn’t know how to handle caring about people, and dealing with any potential of some bad outcome befalling them. Mikri would be happier back at The Gate with Sofia, out of harm’s way and using his analytical skills on the Elusian data.

Mikri said we needed to crush the Asscar to even consider challenging the Elusians; on that front, I’d say we’re doing alright. When the tales of this battle reach Earth…no. We have to secure the EMP weapons, secure that military base, then secure the palace. Focus, Preston.

I was practically on top of one Asscar, whose gun had jammed, when I blasted him in the chest. Most enemy forces had lost their resolve and were fleeing, with some hurrying crates into a sprawling building. They tried to move faster as they spotted us, and ducked through the double doors. The human soldiers closed the gap in a matter of seconds. One alien had tried to deadbolt the door, but I plowed through the entryway shoulder-first, sending it flying off its hinges. After seeing this, the hostiles dropped the crates just shy of a hole in the floor, and ran for their lives. 

I stayed vigilant, taking inventory of my surroundings. The floor inside was as wide-open as any distribution warehouse, but vacant aside from a few shelves. ESU soldiers crept toward the hastily abandoned crates, and began studying what equipment was inside. There did appear to be some kind of jamming device inside, which our R&D would be happy to pick apart. A few other weapons and open, clear vials were stuffed inside, though I had no idea as to their purpose. Mikri might have some insight, when we brought him our findings. 

Troy raised his hand for a high-five, which I accepted; he then fished out a radio to contact our leadership. “Orbital command, come in. We’ve confiscated a shipment of high-value enemy assets, of interest to the Vascar prince. Please advise of a pickup site.”

There was only empty static, which I found strange; our ships wouldn’t have gone down that quickly. I was beginning to feel a bit light-headed, so it was difficult to think. I blinked several times, and focused on what was in front of me. 

Pursing my lips, I pointed to the jammer. “Must be blocking comms.”

“I thought they were EMPs?”

“Who knows. It’s…” I coughed roughly, feeling my legs become weak. I noticed one human trying to exit with a jammer in hand, but the door we’d busted down had been replaced by a slab of concrete to seal her in; she collapsed by the barrier, which perked my alarm. “Gas. Can’t see it…a trap. Have to get out…”

My vision had already begun dimming as I said those words, and I toppled over onto my side. By the time I realized that sleeping vapors were being released to incapacitate us, the effects had kicked in. Maybe Mikri could save us, I thought, and weakly groaned the android’s name. We might’ve been untouchable on the outside, but this universe’s physics hadn’t bolstered our insides. Those scheming aliens were more clever and more resourceful than we’d given them credit for.

A/N - Chapter 14! Preston warns his peers to temper their enthusiasm, reminding them that a single FTL round to Sol would destroy our universe; humanity has to be perfect. The invasion proceeds to crush the organic Vascar with hurled debris and air support, but as they retreat, they trick the humans into chasing down “priority EMP weapons.” This offers an opportunity to trap our forces inside the hangar and knock them out with sleeping gas. Mikri, meanwhile, was left behind, despite his worried pleas for Preston to wait for him…

What will become of the humans, now that the organic Vascar have incapacitated Preston’s group? What will Mikri do with his friend now a hostage?

As always, thank you for reading and supporting!

Comments

@Elias: sorry about your ear! Now that I think about it some more, if this really was a fire suppression system, activated by an escaping soldier triggering a fire alarm, there would in fact be an alarm, wouldn't there? And that one the humans would have definitely notice. All considered, while I still don't feel this trap was particularly perfectly timed, or even perfectly executed for that matter, your version is plausible, and I can't think of a way to disprove it. I still believe that if the human soldiers didn't get too cocky playing superman, they might have been more focused on their surroundings and could have avoided this trap.

Some Lvm

@Some Lvm Okay, I just wanted to make sure nothing was wrong. I’ll give you the concrete slab thing. I can’t hear out of one of my ears, so I’ve become especially sensitive to sound vibrations. To me, sound and touch are almost the same thing at times. Simply put, if I were in this situation, I would have heard anything other than a silent system and known that it was coming from inside due to the way the sound vibrations felt and echoed. However, I can’t argue for what it would be like for Preston due to not having any experience hearing things in that way, and having a “vibration” sense for so long that I can’t even remember what it was like NOT to have it. I’m still not buying the gas, though; if it’s as detrimental to the Archaeo-Vascar as it is to humans, the gas wouldn’t release silently. A silent gas release capable of filling a warehouse to smother fire would be more expensive than a normal one. Just because they might not care about their troops’ safety doesn’t mean that they’re going to go out of their way, and spend more, to install a more dangerous system. I’m thinking that these traps were prepared before humans entered orbit. They seem too perfectly timed for a spur of the moment trap. Between the ambassador’s death and humanity reaching the planet.

EliasArt2Life

@Elias - sorry about that! I really shouldn't write comments before my morning coffee, but I am often too lazy to prepare it, so I sit down in front of my PC to brows the web a bit and wake up some more. Now, let me address the relevant claims, hopefully this will be more though out and on point: 1. Why do you believe the concrete slab was moved in to place silently? Its an active battlefield all around, gun fire, explosions, shouts. We are experiencing the trap from Preston's perspective, between the environmental noise and all the mission details he had to concentrate on, including protecting Mikri, it is more than reasonable he would not notice, or pay attention to some rocks scraping against each other, or yet another vehicle driving by, as long as it wasn't actually a tank. Forklifts are not that loud, especially electric ones. To be clear - I don't think it is a normal system that was there before hand and was explicitly designed as a trap. I believe the slab it self was a makeshift barricade, created in the heat of battle, utilizing available machinery and debris. I am imagining the building as a typical earth warehouse. Any windows would be up close to the ceiling, to let the light in, but not useful for seeing outside. Soldiers inside the building would not see the machine driving the slab towards the entrance, and soldiers outside could not warn them because the comms were jammed. Regarding the gas - looks like I didn't explain it well: I did not mean to say it was harmless to the aliens. On the contrary - I tried to say that it was as toxic to them as it is to humans, but because it made for a good fire suppressant that did not harm precious high tech military gear, it was installed anyway, because the people in charged care more about the supplies than their soldiers. The soldiers would likely know the fire suppression system was dangerous and triggered it on the way out as a last desperate hope to at least slow down the invincible aliens. But maybe I misunderstood your arguments about this trap: When exactly do you believe it was prepared? Was it made between the visit of the earth ambassador and the battle? Or during the battle, after the Vaskar army realized their standard tactics where useless against humans?

Some Lvm

I feel like this is a misrepresentation of what I said but maybe I’m just feeling defensive

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Keep in mind SP has written literally dozens of chapters in advance. No idea how much they let reader feedback inform final chapters, but assume the bones have been laid out months ago.

onwardtowaffles

I cannot emphasise enough how beneficial I think reading this writing could be to prisoners of sol, please read :)

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There is one sad and very tactical thing in this story that bothers me: The video prince Larimak showed the ambassador - its Vaskar's greatest weapon against humanity, and to get the massive war support we are seeing earth government(s?) would have had to classify it top secret and make sure it absolutely never, ever, leaked on to the internet. While realistically we humans are not above slaughtering each other's children, a video of metal machines brutally ripping through a classroom of cute space beaver kids gone viral has the power to instantly change the position of most humans regarding the robo-Vaskar. Even if humanity at large wouldn't want to ally with the organic Vaskar against the bots, they still would not support going to war and killing them. They might even understand why Larimak shot the ambassador - how would you feel if some smug alien came to you and told you they are categorically siding with those who butchered your children, given those butchers protection and making them practically immortal? Honestly, the more I think about the encounter, the less I see Larimak as the bad guy here. He has definitely overreacted and doomed his people, but I sort of understand his rage. Mikri lied when he said they let their creators go - I think they just didn't pursue them because it wasn't efficient or they didn't have the resources to do so. I know Preston and Sofia got to know Mikri personally and didn't see any genocidal side in him, but I am still bothered they accepted that video so easily, and have not changed their attitude towards the robots even a bit. And here is another interesting question - does Mikri's desire to keep his human "friends" safe come from actual love - an empathy he developed, or is it simple possessiveness towards something he finds beneficial? To me it feels like the latter - Mikri doesn't want Preston to die because than Mikri won't get positive inputs, not because he cares how Preston feels or what Preston wants.

Some Lvm

Yeah, it's critical that the FTL side of the Gate become an unassailable fortress as soon as fucking practicable.

onwardtowaffles

@Some Lvm … What? … Just… what? Are you okay? Your points seem a lot more… scattered than usual. You also tried to claim that a thick slab of concrete that moved to block the door without a sound or warning (at least before it was too late) could have been a jury-rigged system, could have used the (not mentioned and probably wouldn’t be silent if they were there) heavy machinery in the area, or could be a normal system (try resetting that system. Sounds a lot harder than a metal barrier with hinges and joints). The issues with the gas are really a NON-issue; they’re trying to kill humans at best, and leave them asleep at worst. They could totally use the gas in high dosage in battle. So, as you said, it’s not a problem. Are you seriously trying to use a colorless, odorless and nonlethal gas and claiming that BY SHEER COINCIDENCE, the Archaeo-Vascar have a very similar gas that also happens to coincidentally function as a knock out gas for humans and not the Alliance species (remember, Space Paladin tends to make biological requirements similar for all organic species to keep things similar, and I don’t believe they’d have a fire prevention system that would knock themselves out)? Plus, where’s the fire? I reread the section, and there’s no mention of a fire to trigger the automatic systems. Did one of the enemy soldiers trigger the system on their way out? How would they know that the harmless gas would knock out the humans? Come on man, I know we don’t always agree on things, but I legitimately value and appreciate your thoughts on things. You always push me to develop my thoughts more than I already have, and I value that. This isn’t your usual stuff. I just want to make sure that you aren’t pushing yourself and writing this while you’re exhausted or something like that.

EliasArt2Life

One explanation I heard, though I can't be sure it is correct or that I understood it correctly, is that the problem is not traveling faster than the speed of light, but rather accelerating from below C to above it, or slowing down from above C to below it. So apparently tachyons don't violate relativity unless they try to hit the breaks: https://www.britannica.com/science/tachyon If I understand correctly, its kind of like division: you can divide by positive or negative numbers, and the smaller the divisor the bigger the result, but there is one specific point between positive and negative numbers where division breaks - zero.

Some Lvm

@Elias: I've been thinking some more about it: The thing that makes the least sense to me in this story is the fact that the opening in the Sol barrier is moving! And not just moving, it perfectly follows Pluto's orbit without falling behind or overtaking it! We know this because it took the same time for Preston and Sofia to get from Pluto station to the opening and than from the opening back to Pluto station, but they have been gone for several month. If the hole wasn't carefully following Pluto, their journey back should have been way longer. But back to the fight - when did the humans had the time to perfectly recalculate grenade strength? Did you notice how much the grenades were nerfed? In this wonky physics, a human can punch through tank armor with a bare hand but a grenade explosion inside same tank armor is perfectly contained. This should not be possible - the weakest grenade explosion produces many time more kinetic energy than the strongest human punch. A grenade tossed inside a tank through a hole made by a human fist should have blown the whole tank apart. At the very least, the peaces of the grenade shell should have shut out through the tank armor and turned Preston and any other soldier who tried this trick in to a sieve. Back to the trap though: There is no indication the concrete slab was an integral part of the trap specially made and put there. If the Vaskar knew that much about human capabilities in advance, why waste such knowledge on a single piece of concrete? Also - what exactly are the walls of the depot made of? If they are thinner than the concrete slab, that wouldn't make for much of a trap, would it? (There is a scene in "Sara Connor chronicles" where instead of breaking a tough metal door Cameron just punches through the brick wall next to it because its easier) Here is what I think - nothing about that concrete slab description indicates it was purpose made to block the depot door. Some Vascar soldiers probably used the depot's loading equipment to move a piece of debris from a building or landing pad nearby to the door to block it. I don't think it would have stopped the humans if they had the chance to slam in to it - even if they didn't break the slab, they would have toppled it or pushed it out of the way. And as for knockout gas - the difference between "sleeping" and "dead" is just a matter of concentration. Some years ago, the Russian security forces tried to take out terrorists holding hostages in a theater using knockout gas. But they used too much and ended up killing a lot of people including the hostages. Trying to get a gas concentration right in the open is not feasible. You either end up with too little of it to be effective, or too much of it so it becomes deadly anyway. At least if you are aiming to kill throwing too much at the enemy is not a problem. One last thought - maybe it wasn't even a defense system at all! What if the gas was from a fire suppression system? Halon is colorless and odorless, and used in places with sensitive equipment because it is non conductive and does not damage electronics or leave a residue. It is safe to use around humans in an enclosed space, so the military actually uses it in many places including tanks, but what if the Vaskar developed something similar that just happened to be not so safe? Its not like real world militaries are averse to using unsafe technology, especially the ones in less progressive countries... (Google "turret toss" for an example)

Some Lvm

They’re some very good sci fi books , must reads imo

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Fair enough

Wingit98

@Some Lvm I think the doors getting replaced with a giant slab of concrete proves that this trap was tailor made for humans. Any similar defense on Earth, made for people WITHOUT super strength, would use a thin metal barrier. Something that these Super-Humans could break through as easily as those tanks. Sure the trap makes sense if you assume it’s a standard defense system, but don’t forget that it first has to make sense AS a standard defense system, rather than one specifically designed for humans. Even if it WAS meant for another organic enemy the Alliance is fighting, that kind of supports my point that something about this trap seems off; the trap would be hinting that the Alliance is fighting more than just the Vascar, like we’ve been told. As for you last bit, you’re talking about poisonous gases. Right now we have no proof this gas is poisonous rather than a knockout gas. A knockout gas wouldn’t harm civilians, and when gas is the only effective weapon against an overpowered foe, who cares if the target area is hard to predict?

EliasArt2Life

Never heard of that, sorry

Space Paladin

Sp, I’m curious if you have read Klara and the sun and or the mountain in the sea and what you think of them. (Is mirki /the artificial vascar are at all inspired by Klara/ the cooting machines or Evrim at all?)

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I mean, also consider that they are a monarchy and their prince is uhn... IF he is any indication of how the monarchy works... I'd say they likely had to turn their guns on their own populace about as often as they had on the robots.

Jonathan Cardoso Mota

Well, actually :P You are making a few assumptions here. I think this trap makes perfect sense, if you don't assume it was tailored specifically for Preston. Lets start with the fact that unlike the bots, the real, organic Vaskar think in a way similar if not identical to humans. They may have a somewhat different appearance to humans, but in terms of psychology we have seen nothing to indicate there would be any understanding gaps between a human and a Vaskar (no, I will not let the bots steal their name after butchering their children!) While they may not have expected our super strength and speed, in terms of actual tactics the idea someone would go for high value target does not require any cultural knowledge, just an assumption the enemy is not radically different in their psychology. Also, maybe this wasn't a deliberate trap at all: the gas could be part of a normal security system for the warehouse. If this is a facility that handles sensitive military equipment on regular bases, or is even a dedicated military depot, it would make sense for it to have built in defenses. A gas dispersion system similar to a fire suppression system is not that far fetched. It may have been there all along to deter intruders, and the fleeing soldiers just triggered it as a last ditch effort and got lucky. That exchange about the EMP's might have even been real. And even if it was deliberate - it might have been quick thinking by a clever commander, using what was on hand, and trying a different tactic after seeing conventional weapons being mostly ineffective. Also also - a lot of common deadly gasses on earth are odorless and colorless. You don't have to design specifically for any blind spots - concentrated enough, carbon monoxide will knock you out and even kill you quite quickly, and you can't see or smell it. Even cooking gas used in most homes only smells because we add a special chemical to it as a safety feature - so we can detect leaks with our noses. In its pure form, it would be undetectable until too late. And finally: just because their current main war is against robots, it does not mean they do not have other, organic enemies we don't know about, internal strife in their own society, or that they are not using military force to subjugate their supposed allies in the first place. There is nothing to indicate they have only ever warred with robots, so no reason for them to not have anti-organic weapons on had, at least a few of them. Which also explains why they didn't use gas outside - most toxic gases require a certain level of concentration before they are effective. Also, wind conditions make their target area hard to predict. The defending Vaskar probably did not have large stockpiles of it on hand, and if they are not complete assholes didn't want to risk using it so close to civilian population with high risk of it drifting off in a random direction and killing their own people. There is a good reason gas has rarely, if at all been used on the battlefield after the first World War, and its not just because some countries decided it was too cruel.

Some Lvm

Okay, something seems… off… about this. The trap was good. Too good. It required a knowledge of human nature, which the Archaeo-Vascar should not have had, to predict where they’d run. It also requires a knowledge of human capabilities in these physics, beyond what even WE have (though I suppose they could have autopsied the diplomat. Still, I find that a little unlikely based on the prince’s behavior and attitude). Everything about it, down to the smallest timing and what the captain & soldiers said was nearly perfect. So why did they only capture Preston’s squad? In the army, that’s around 8 soldiers. All of this to capture 8 soldiers, when there’s an entire invasion force? Even if similar traps are being triggered throughout the planet, it doesn’t make sense. If you come up with such a convincing plan that’ll capture nearly unbeatable foes, why capture a dozen at a time, rather than luring in larger numbers? In fact, if the Archaeo-Vascar have such an effective and human specific (it targets blind spots in our sensory perception) sleeping gas, why aren’t they using it in battle? Sure, all this setup keeps the gas a secret for longer, but picking off a dozen soldiers at a time still possesses a risk of the secret getting out. I don’t think you can knock out more soldiers through these traps than just skipping to using the gas in battle. On another note, I’m noticing a pattern; when the Vascar rebelled, the Alliance fought back with EMPs, a weapon specifically made for machines. Now, in the face of super-humans, they immediately switch to using gas attacks. As @Wingit98 pointed out, it’s strange that they would even HAVE gas weapons on hand when they’ve been fighting robots who don’t breathe. The Alliance seems to have a thing for using weapons that specifically target a person’s weak points. A pattern or a coincidence… not enough data to know for sure yet.

EliasArt2Life

Light speed (c) is a different value in this universe

Space Paladin

Ok well isn’t that because the speed of light is the absolute limit in our universe? If it wasn’t the limit and everything required less energy to travel, the acceleration to FTL would cost a finite amount of energy. Just going off of the fictional logic presented here, it clearly doesn’t take an infinite amount of energy to hit FTL in the outside universe, so an object going FTL and entering the Sol bubble would then translate its energy into our physics and either A: explode immediately or B: explode everything all at once.

Pineapplepilot

It takes infinite energy to achieve FTL, past that the energy needed to slow back down is just as infinite

Conure King!

So our weapons are not better in these physics or just the same unlike humans, I know the armor and craft we have is designed to be stronger

Kevo

Weird that they have chemical weapons like sleeping agents on hand when they're used to fighting machines. I wonder if they've examined our dear departed ambassador's corpse, giving the higher ups a clue as to what they're up against and prepared countermeasures. Or maybe this is the Elusians stepping in after realizing their experiment has gotten loose.

Wingit98

Yeah as @John said, it mathematically would need infinite energy to go faster than light! That’s all according to relativity 😅 Actually, just going light speed would require infinite energy, so FTL would break everything

Space Paladin

Was not aware of that, thank you

Pineapplepilot

Oh, and the “above FTL = infinity” thing is actually part of our own physics. If so weird, but if something was able to go FTL in real space (no space warping to cheat) the math essentially does an integer overflow where all energy that should slow down or speed up the object just makes it *go faster* and gain energy, essentially becoming an ever expanding singularity as reality does the equivalent of crashing due to what is essentially an infinite energy glitch. It’s *nuts*

John Benjamin Cate

What a rush, being able to see how powerful humans have become in these physics is amazing! Too bad for the characters that made them cocky. The gas trap is activated! One they might have seen if they weren’t so overconfident in their abilities. Tragic and realistic!

John Benjamin Cate

Remember this is soft sci fi, looking to be like the old Barsoom book series and other classic pulps. Where the science isn’t meant to be rigid and more used to have fun. And boy oh boy, am I having fun!

John Benjamin Cate

Other than that the actual story seems to be progressing great! You’re doing great!

Pineapplepilot

My attempt at constructive criticism, observe my tripping and falling: I’m not entirely sure your physics check out, at least not all of it. If something were to enter the earth bubble faster than light then yes that would probably obliterate everything, though you’re gonna have to clarify what you mean by “infinite energy” because that’s a little outlandish even by fictional standards? Clearly there’s no speed limit here, but to imply that “anything FTL = infinity” isn’t the most plausible thing to put down. Also, their technology is adapted to a weaker physical realm and therefore would be even LESS effective in our world. Hardly a two way street, but there is still caution to be used. For the actual constructive part of constructive criticism, I would just point out the diminished effectiveness of outside tech in the bubble, and try to think of the solar system in terms of earth’s atmosphere; easy to move in space, but the physics get harder on the ground and there’s a barrier of entry that might just explode anything coming in too fast. As for numbers, you can be vague and still avoid infinity, you’ll be fine. Not pointing anything out, It’s also just funny to see several hundred years in the future we’re still equipped with kevlar, though I suppose it could be a more general term rather than the actual material invented in 1965.

Pineapplepilot

Should have helldived into the palace, straight onto the prince's head. Assaulting a city, least a capital, is a nightmare for months, even with air superiority. Wouldn't be surprised if they had to retreat.

Taras

As soon as the enemy started yelling about the location of EMPs, I knew there was a trap. That's just how it goes in these stories.

DreamEnvoy

There is never a mon calamari admiral when you need one...

RadiantLife

It's a trap!

EclipseDragon96

Fuck!

pogman

Third!

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