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Attack On Titan S4 Episode 25

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I’m late but more and more I appreciate Jean’s character. He was wavering. But one reminder of Marco just blows everything out of the water. He knows what his friend wants. It’s the living who gives meaning to the death of their comrades. 😭

K

Even if a certain civilizations were destroyed by another, we know that refugees can find good societies willing to help them. Like Judea was destroyed by the Roman’s, and the Roman Catholics kicked out and persecuted the Jews, the Jewish community found refuge in the Middle East, North Africa, Eastern and Western Europe. When the Muslims gained control of Jerusalem when the Roman’s surrendered in Northern Arabia, the Muslims brought back the Jews to Jerusalem/Palestine 1,600 years ago. … it sort of sounds like Marley was helped within those 2,000 years… and it seems like factions of the Eldians are the ones that helped them like the Tybur Family, and The Royal Family. Who knows what happened in those 2,000 years since it’s a fictional story too lol.

Noor E

Genocide is always wrong! However, this dilemma is a 'kill or be killed' scenario so I'm with Eren. Eren committed genocide for survival, to protect his friends and people. Marley wanted to commit genocide for resources of Paradis! They're both wrong but between a rock and a hard place, I choose to kill instead of being killed!

Sheri

I fully support the rumbling. Ultimately there is not ethical or moral in this case. The ONLY 2 options are "All of Eldia is wiped out" or "The rest". Yes "the rest" is far more people, but it's no different to "If every single country in the real world right now thought of wherever you are from were demons and decided to kill y'all, would you lay down and die? Or would you instead, given the chance, wipe everyone else out? Ultimately for me, I'm still on the fence, I live in the UK, but I don't like it here much. If I were to have moved to America with my ex and was asked the question there, I'd have immediately chosen to wipe out the globe. Now I'm single and alone (family aside) in the UK, I may choose the UK to be wiped out. The issue isn't "justifying" genocide, it's that it's quite literally the only option presented to him. And while "he started it" is childish Marley did in fact "start it", once King Fritz of 100 years ago wiped their memories clean, they weren't in any capacity guilty anymore. Being from the UK my people have colonised more of the world than anyone pretty much, an approximate third. I feel NOTHING for that, it wasn't in my life time, I know no colonisers and I will NEVER feel bad or let people put me down for anything that happened over 50 years ago. Heck, even if my deceased father owned slaves, I would resent HIM, but I in of myself wouldn't feel bad, I've done nothing wrong. I think you're just not considering how this was the last resort, and there were literally only 2 options.

Addstir

good point, ill change it

Harrison Hird

@harrison Would you kindly edit your comment to put spoiler warning at the top of it. Your opinions for or against Eren are fine, but at least keep it to the details that are within what the reactors have watched. I know you’re talking to another commenter, but Wes and Steph can still see these comments.

Brooklyn

spoiler warning Eren being oppressed doesn't justify genocide. also saying Eren isnt evil is an insane take, he is directly responsible for more suffering than anyone to ever exist by a very large margin. and he was completely conscious of what he was doing the entire time. by the end of the story he is completely irredeemable, to suggest otherwise requires a complete lack of any sort of moral or ethical code

Harrison Hird

While I agree, going off number of victims he’s worse than Hitler—you can tell from my response that that is not what I was using to compare. I was comparing them as people and I rate the real life genocidal dictator as a worse person.

bizarre☆azar

Anyone who decides to kill an entire planetary population is worse than Hitler, regardless of ideology.

Dank Waifu

You guys can watch the intro and outro songs now pls!!!🙏😅Also… KING FLOCH!!!!😂🫡

Alex5AVA6E

rahhhhh i was actually on the other guys side but this makes alot more sense still dont like eren but damn i done a whole 180 reading this

Kai Kage

I don't think they'll have the opening anymore (I could be wrong) so if you do wanna watch it you'll have to find it on youtube or go a few episodes back

Tony

Marley is more comparable to Hitler. Eren is part of the oppressed.

bizarre☆azar

I like your points on it being your in group vs everyone else! I hadn’t thought of it that way. I think I struggle somewhat because my mind doesn’t try to apply this dilemma to our world. It’s so set in this being in the fictional fantasy category for me that I have a different answer then I’d have if this wasn’t a problem 2d characters were facing. As a Palestinian American with relatives living in the West Bank, my answer is with Hange. Genocide is wrong.

bizarre☆azar

Eren’s not doing concentration camps?? He’s not torturing people?? He isn’t racist or homophobic?? He is not worse than Hitler. He’s committing genocide, in his mind, to save his people not because he thinks his people are superior. Hitler was evil. Eren isn’t evil. His plan is just shit but in his thinking it’s gonna be a genocide either way. Either his people or everyone else.

bizarre☆azar

King Floch!

Jordan

Gabi is such a good character. I started out hating her, but at this point I can't help but love her. She was just a brainwashed kid that ended up seeing reality and accepting it. Such a good author. I look forward to every Thursday nowadays. The next few episodes are gonna be something....

Muppetlord

Im sorry but if u replace Eren with Hitler nobody is conflicted, we all know objectively what is correct (fuck right or wrong ),and Eren is worse than Hitler.

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