Sacred Symbols+, Episode 425 | Subverting (and Replacing?) The Game Awards

these comments are unhinged. pure leftist prattle

iain mcmanus

Ah so a lot of these comments must be why the video isn't available and the reddit thread is locked. I tune into Side Scrollers every now and then. Let's go Craig!

Parangariku tirimiquaro

Yeah, he’s filtering his messaging the same Geoff would, he’s just catering to a different audience

Gabriel Baker

He called Jaffe evil for having a trans child, he’s a horrible grifter and bad actor. Love having people on like this but wish there was way more push back.

Alex Green

(Most condescending voice possible) So… that’s a fucked up thing to say buddy! 😘

My Classical Slut!

Fuckin Aye!!

My Classical Slut!

You would

My Classical Slut!

Bingo.

Douglas Morreale

What was said by Craig on the show that required repudiation? It was a fun interview where both he and Colin largely agreed with each other on the state of the industry, but had disagreements on how to fix it. Colin: Let it burn. Craig: Fix it. If you are referring to what Craig produces with his own content, then that would make no sense. If he were to be "grilled" for that it would open a can of worms for ever single guest that would appear on these various shows. It logistically makes no sense and wasn't even a part of the topic of the show.

Alex

Lmao random Gettys headshot

Ryan

I have no problem with having Craig on but he should have been grilled.

Michal Dudic

When will this episode become available for the Sacred Symbols+ membership? The audio version is available but not the video version. Thanks

David

So you think because Side Scrollers is all culture war content that they should never be able to have a voice on a topic that LSM thought them worthy of discussion? Or are you saying that only people within a specific cultural window should be allowed to speak here otherwise it might offend someone and that shouldn't be able to happen? Sounds like gatekeeping to me. Gatekeeping that leads to people living in a bubble. I personally strongly disagree that we have plenty of different opinions here at LSM, but you're free to think otherwise. There are many different personalities, but that is as far as it goes.

Alex

Side Scrollers content is completely close-minded and woefully disrespectful of others just because it's fun for them to make it. To each their own but it couldn't be more different from what LSM produces and this pushback is totally justified, IMO. It's not about "different opinions". Plus, we get plenty of those here. It's that their stuff is totally devoid of substance and information. It's just ignorant and shrill culture-warring.

Michal Dudic

People reacting to this episode displays how much of a hive mind the LSM audience has become. A single different opinion crosses your timeline and the majority of you go ballistic like a toddler who dropped his ice cream cone. Grow the hell up and maybe listen to someone different for a change. There are plenty of offensive things said on this network by people like Jaffe and Chris, but once someone like Craig comes along with a different perspective all of a sudden we "can't platform them". This just shows that even a community that calls itself open minded and respectful of others is really just the same as everyone else but with a facade of respectability.

Alex

To be fair, I honestly am all for more awards shows for games. My problem is that he’s trying to set it up by leveraging the dumbass culture war. It was especially poorly timed this year when TGAs was an “oops all bangers” show. lol

Dreamed about Ronald McDonald with a bowl cut frowning in black and white, woke up cackling

I never watched any Side Scrollers, I remember Craig from the GameTrailers-era ScrewAttack and I always liked their stuff. After this conversation, I went to check out Side Scrollers only to find some of the most insufferable bottom-of-the-barrel culture war shit I've ever seen. The guy should have been fucking grilled on the show. He criticizes how there is a divide between devs, media, and gamers, but is himself responsible for content engineered to rile people up. It's confrontational just for the sake of it, without any attempt at a half-intelligent conversation, full of bad-faith arguments. He's a textbook grifter and that's without even getting into the awards thing.

Michal Dudic

His idea sounds like the gamer equivalent of Derek Savage's 420 Awards. I honestly hope it comes to fruition and becomes the shitshow I know it can be.

Rat Pobertson

Isn't his show the one where they sit around and take turns jerking Mark Kern off?

Rat Pobertson

I thought this was a great conversation.

drewmoneybeatz

I was disappointed to witness absolutely ZERO pushback from Colin. I have no problem using the sunlight of Sacred Symbols+ to expose what is obviously a blatant grifter. However, if you're going to sit in silence as he spews his nonsense this isn't an intelligent conversation - it's a commercial for his swindle. If I wanted vapid discourse that only exists to facilitate self-promotion I'd go listen to Tim Gettys. We can do so much better here.

MR. MOHAM

10 minutes in, there's some corporate or business tinge to the way Craig speaks, it hasn't felt like a genuine conversation

Anthony Ledesma

I was always more of a Handsome Tom guy myself.

KonamiSucksAssPoo

First of all, I agree with the sentiment that this person is one of the people we absolutely don't want in the space, and is a bad emissary for video games. He, his crew, Vera Dark and other asmon-likes. On the other hand, I am not surprised Colin decided to talk to him, as me being here, with LSM, for a long, long while, I know that Colin is willing to talk to anyone and give a chance of discussion to anyone. Even if that chance is a rope in the end. And I would like for him to continue to do just that.

Germanos

So?

Bugsy8

Less of this culture war grifter please

Ryan Dillon

The REAL Gay Awards™️ lol

Ghost of YoDEI

Was not aware of that. That’s a fucked up thing to say about someone

DeadMail

Colin, I love you. But this guy sucks.

Zackizard

He claimed Jaffe was a bad parent because his child is trans

The Lizard King

After this I tried listening to Side Scrollers podcast but apart from the main host all the people he surrounds himself with are so insufferable... Plus almost all they talk about is this culture war bs. It's like Asmongold podcast without Asmongold. Nothing of worth there. I'm not interested in their version of the game awards.

Danio

This dropped before an absolute banger of a show. Like milk.

ByWatterson

Yeah Craig has one of the biggest cases of needing to touch grass I’ve heard in a while.

Cody Raburn

Yeah Matthew, it almost sounded like a parody with all the anti-woke buzzwords.

Cody Raburn

Oh cool so from the comments seems like the lesson Colin will take away from this is… absolutely nothing lol

Gerard Quinn

Great conversation. OG Screwattack is the goat. More Craig on LSM!

Addison Crews

The only episode of SS+ I’ve actively disliked. Craig is a loser who’s just trying to take people for a ride and you didn’t push back on him almost at all. He’s the exact kind of person you constantly say is a bad faith actor in this space and the people he surrounds himself with have said some real fucking vile shit. Idk man. This is a bummer. They’re the exact kind of rage bait bullshit that needs cut off at the knees. And this is nothing to do with politics. I tend to be center left, but being decent and not calling people slurs shouldn’t really fall into a political bent. Doesn’t cost shit to just not act like an asshole.

Neil Davis

Their reaction to Intergalactic shows everything you need to know about them

Matthew Novak

Imagine thinking Colin should defend someone who indoctrinates his impressionable young child into believing they were born into the wrong body. Jaffe is lucky the culture has rotten to the point where you’ll be celebrated for promoting child abuse. If we ever become sane again, freaks like Jaffe will be put in jail. Here’s to hoping. 🍻

Jimmer

I’ve never listened to Craig’s content before but going solely by these comments you’d think he’d punched everyone’s grandma! I have no intention of listening to his Real Game Award. I didn’t even watch the regular Game Awards show. Just not my cup of tea. Didn’t agree some of the ideas presented but so what? Everyone’s got different views. That’s what makes the world special.

DeadMail

I listened to this, listened to about 15 minutes of side scrollers live coverage of the game awards, and came back to write that their panel was the biggest group of retards I've ever seen

ajwhite

I'd be bitter too if I had a gap in the front of my mouth most vehicles could drive through.

CrabDude5000

I definitely think he needs to push back on Jaffe more. Hell, he needs to push back on everyone more. I think what leads to fruitful discussions ARE those follow-up questions and really dissecting a person's opinion to understand what they think. Also, Jaffe needs to stop interrupting lol. I like Jaffe but he's insufferable sometimes with his constant interrupting.

Faan

LOL I got a different reaction from CliffyB. I genuinely thought he was fine. What was your issue specifically? Just curious. I know he can come across as kinda arrogant but I guess that's common with people who've 'made' it like him.

Faan

Amen to that. Cliffy’s episode was the most insane thing I’ve heard on this network. Glad that guy is relegated to open mic nights moving forward.

Dante B

Some of these comments are absolutely bonkers banana pancakes; I get not “liking” or “enjoying” a guest or their perspective; hell, I even get feeling the need to respectfully make your voice heard if you feel like it’s an entitlement due to your patronage- but this is some LSM Reddit level nonsense.

Ryen Gerson

The game awards need to be about the players and not the devs? What kind of self important drivel is this? It shows a lot of people just want to be coddled.

Caleb Jurgens

Side Scrollers are disgusting racist grifters. It sickens me to see Colin legitimize this guy

MarkGrouch

He’s no different than Grummz and it feels insulting to the listener for Colin to act like he’s some beacon in the industry.

MarkGrouch

Nah

MarkGrouch

He’s a grifting clown, no idea why Colin gave him a platform. He’s no different than Grummz

MarkGrouch

Why Colin would bring on this grifter is beyond me

MarkGrouch

I don’t know how you can rightfully criticize Grummz and his ilk while bringing this grifting clown on.

MarkGrouch

There are also multiple spelling mistakes on the website. If you want to be taken seriously, spellcheck is a good first step

Matthew Novak

Colin, can't believe you had this fucking clown on.

Luke Knockton

Best non jaffee comment section. 9 cats out of five buffalos. I hope Craig does well and if it works out, will more people replicate it? Always good to see more ideas.

AngelOfCake

He was pretty much the biggest douchebag I’ve heard speak on a podcast.

The Rose Experience

Personally, I thought CliffyB's episode was enjoyable. It was intriguing to hear him, especially because he's a talent who's made Xbox's best trilogy of games besides the Halo trilogy. Sure, he says some questionable things like repeatedly mentioning his pleasure of eating a**, but I think he's alright.

Faan

craig has never ever been a journalist. He was a content creator at most. Dude is a certified clown and unrelenting moron now.

ItsnotEnough

Thank you for the work you do @Jacob and @Dakota Brown. Nice to see two people here who are kind and not mean-spirited like a lot of other people in this comments section...

Faan

@Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers Alright, fair point. Touche.

Faan

@Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers, I apologize for coming across that way. I'll continue to pay for LSM cuz I like Colin a lot (I've been following his work since he's been at IGN) and think he's quite intelligent, and I appreciate his candor at a time when people are too afraid to voice their true opinion. And I like Dustin, Chris, Brad, and Dagan a lot as well (the Dukes are great as well, although I don't play on Xbox, so I don't listen to them much). I'm content with differing opinions, though I like to converse with others regarding said differing opinions, as having differing minds can result in fruitful discussions. I realize this probably isn't the best place to do that, and for that, again, I apologize for being intense. I give you a lot of credit for being charitable and polite, unlike other people in this comment section who throw profanities at those they disagree with, so thanks for that.

Faan

There is no worse episode than Cliffy B’s.

The Rose Experience

I think there can be some balanced when it comes to providing feedback. But I’ve been noticing recently extremely obnoxious and aggressive feedback - from a variety of different viewpoints. People need to chill like for real

Zack E

Kinda felt like this conversation was just going in circles.

Zack E

Agreed, i find the whole anti-journalism thing just an online take because the vast majority of people who play games don’t use twitter and just don’t give a shit. Its the same reason why if this game awards does happen, i give it like 2 years because again no one really gives a shit at the end of the day.

pudge

Money🤑🦀💵💵💵 I want a bigger piece of the culture pie...and 🤑💵💵💵

Frank G.

In the words of Hoeg, "Reasonable minds can differ!" Man I loved it. And it gets capped off by a new Naughty Dog game? Man oh man. So excited.

Morgan

I remember meeting Craig in person at guardian con a few years back. He was nice enough. I feel like he just doesn’t have enough “real news” to cover a daily 2 hour show so he pulls bottom barrel news pieces. Probably why he covered Jaffe so much. Idk the episode was fine at best. I wouldn’t listen to another one of these if he came back. People who obsess over others being trans or how people define their lives are weird. It rarely adds anything of note to conversation about games.

Aric Anderson

Dude you are crashing out responding everyone in this comment section for these past hours lmao. The show was a banger and the TGA aren’t going anywhere. I’m pretty sure even the sacred boys loved but I’ll still listen to the new ep. Get a life and touch some grass.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

Listen man if you want to get conned into giving Craig, and smashJT your money be my guest but it’s precisely because I’ve listened to this man try to make original articulate intelligent points that I know he’s an idiot, and based on your defense of him I can only assume you’ve been fooled into consuming his content as legitimate criticism and probably supported him financially, so I’m sorry you were too stupid to see through it.

Orb Ponderer

Spot the guy that very clearly didn't listen before spazzing out lol

kunsam

Craig doesn’t actually think the restarted shit he says to farm views about every new culture war nonsense, he does it for the money, that is a grifter by definition . Or you think he actually does believe the stupid shit he says, pick your poison.

Orb Ponderer

This goes in the bucket of worst episodes man, right next to the one with Melanie Mac. These people like her and Craig are genuinely unintelligent, uneducated people in this industry, perpetuating a culture war that does not and can not end to extract cash from dimwits and morons, which is exactly the point of therealgameawards. Colin you spoke a lot about how the dipshits calling tales of Kenzara woke simply aren’t aware of the game or the meaning of that word and Craig is exactly one of these people. Perpetually negative content and outrage bait/farming in the pursuit of more money from people with a chip on their shoulder and a place to direct their anger. And to these same morons crying about the “tolerant left” because the comments are negative, people disliking your favorite grifter who barely plays games isn’t being intolerant of a different voice it’s being intolerant of a bad faith actor which is exactly who and what Craig is.

Orb Ponderer

Look I'm not in favour of any award shows. I would prefer if Geoff Keighley just did like "2024 game celebration night" and kept the announcements and let developers have 2 minutes to talk about their games. But nothing Craig said was what I would describe as "immensely, almost profoundly, stupid". It was just another idea for an awards show which I wouldn't watch. But the reason I accuse people of not listening to it is because 80% of this podcast was just 2 old game journalists talking about the state of the industry. They honestly barely talked about his award show.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

The show was a complete dud lol

Chris Evans

Buddy it’s BECAUSE I listened to it that inspired me to write a comment (something I almost never bother enough to do on here), so much of the logic to Craig’s version of an award show here is just immensely, almost profoundly, stupid. Also, I’m definitely not talking about him in the way I’d talk about Hitler - that’s just extreme hyperbole. I definitely would use much harsher words than simply “dumbass” or “doofy-ass fraud” when referring to the head of the Nazi party. But Craig? yeah, “dumbass” works. I stand by that.

Collin Goodspeed

This is where your disconnect with reality is Faan. Normal people can have friends who are right wing AND left wing and still function just fine in society. Colin having Dave Rubin as a friend isn't an attack on Chris or vice a versa. The irony thought is YOU are the one who is overthinking THEIR relationships.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Because its clear none of you guys listened to this. It was pretty much a conversation about the state of the industry. Y'all acting like Craig is Hitler. Even thought Colin agrees with almost everything he says.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

That was quite the trauma dump. I'm honestly surprised you give Last Stand your money. You are seeing ghosts where there is nothing. Its also clear that you can't stand people who have an opinion different from yours. This might be cliche, but seriously dude, go outside.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

To be fair does the dev give a shit ? They must of made soo much money and sells

Niall Harrison

It is possible to disagree with people without being an asshole in the comment section. That being said smart money would be that the Real Game Awards never take place. Also I find the anti-game journalism movement just as annoying as game journalism so I will continue to ignore them both.

JT

I think people went and looked at sidescrollers and in this case sunlight was an excellent disinfectant.

Zachary Beach

You criticise Grummz on the main show all the time and then invite this Grummz-tier retard who is precisely one of the "wrong voices" you complain about in culture war bullshit onto the show, only to gently suck him off for 80 minutes and not give any criticism or pushback on this bullshit It's cool that you'll have anyone on the show regardless of their views, that's something I appreciate about LSM, but the fact you went so soft on this guy is what's disappointing to listeners

Macro

Awesome chat, I'm gonna check out Craig's content

Your Boi Nicky V

Calling him a bad father isn't just Jaffe being an inflammatory drama queen, that's an out of pocket personal attack, going after him for saying dumb shit about games is one thing but leave his family out of it

Macro

Hogwarts Legacy was good, I enjoyed it a lot, even got the platinum, but it wasn't outstanding in any way and didn't really deserve a nomination in any category imo

Macro

These comments suck all around. What happened to the LSM community.

Cole Barker

Sounds like you should vote with your wallet

Nat Patterson

Great to see another therapist in the comments!!! I also work as a therapist. I strongly believe that the more time people spend with individuals/groups that are from different backgrounds and experiences, it can open the door to a lot more empathy. I am not transgender, and I grew up in a fairly conservative Christian denomination that was anti-LGBTQ+ in nearly every way. I work with so many different folks with different presenting concerns, and it is disheartening knowing the terrible things transgender people experience in their daily lives for merely existing. I appreciate them deeply, just as I do my clients who are not transgender. I really wish people would be more empathetic. Kindness is free. It doesn’t cost anything.

Jacob

surprised at the butthurt comments. Appreciate not shying away from getting "controversial" folks on the podcast.

ToiletDrummer

It’s amazing that people who pay for Colin’s content don’t understand anything about him or LSM. I don’t watch anything with Jaffe because I don’t want to hear him act like a 12 year old and spurge out 90% of the time. I also don’t comment on how Colin should never platform Jaffe again. It’s not my place to police his company. If I was truly that upset I would simply stop giving him my money.

Lord Zedd

You are psychotic

Keenan

Fair, but still. I remember, it was an episode either from 2021 or 2022 on Sacred Symbols when Dave Rubin came up and Chris said he doesn't like him, but Colin was quick to defend Rubin, though he respected that Chris is entitled to his opinion at least. And Rubin is no stranger to controversy, so Colin is willing to defend figures who instigate things lol.

Faan

Ok, fair. But at the same time, I like to go to LSM for fruitful discussions, and I find that comments such as "cry more" only add to the polarization already in the wider gaming community. We don't need more vitriol. We can disagree politely, but people can do as they wish at the end of the day.

Faan

The women day tweet was a nothing burger that blew up because people get offended for such questionable reasons... but at the same time, that was the cherry on top of so many things. Colin has questionable opinions, but he can have them, fine (his Jan. 6 opinion that it wasn't a big deal, his unwavering support for Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk - which is fine, though they have some questionable controversies, his dissatisfaction for IGN and other gaming outlets despite recently saying he felt like he was underpaid there, his support for Israel and then his lack of support for Ukraine, I can go on but no one really cares what I think). Colin just had so many arguments on Twitter back in the KF days, and he says he was in a bad place mentally then, but it's his constant nagging that he was betrayed that gets annoying. I'm sorry, but perhaps he should've behaved more professional on social media... people were just sick of his b.s. and he makes it out that he was rejected. It was his own doing. And look, it was meant to be because Last Stand Media is great. I'm just tired of Colin's inability to admit fault (thank God for Dustin who is the only permanent LSM member willing to confront Colin, even if it's just video game stuff), his constant beratement of fans who politely disagree with him, and this revisionist history that the gaming industry rejected him (it was HIS choice to leave KF, he wasn't pushed out). So my initial comment here was that I find it ironic and also faulty that Colin always goes to bat for the people close to him, and he doesn't at least defend Jaffe here. Granted, it wasn't the place or time cuz it was for Craig's Gaming Awards show, but still... imagine if Colin had someone on from Easy Allies for an episode after how they treated Dustin last year and not even politely defend Dustin. Because I'm sorry, yes, Craig can be entitled to his opinions, but calling Jaffe a bad father is a low blow and uncalled for, and Colin's silence is sad considering I thought of him always sticking up to those loyal to him.

Faan

That’s a very ironic statement considering religious belief has driven a lot of policy in America. Abortion being a recent example. But again, read my original comment. Ignore the online discourse and speak to a transgender person in real life. They just want to be respected and left alone. They don’t care if you believe in their gender identity or not. I work with the community and they are more concerned with their safety above all else.

Dakota Brown

You and Chris Evans responding back on every comment defending this dude is….something

bandwagner

I absolutely agree that Colin was exactly like that when he was on twitter. I would not have defended his actions when he acted like that. But he stopped doing that. He grew and learned. Jaffe is a big baby and keeps fuelling his drama. "And then he gets surprised and emotional still to this day when not many people wanted to defend the unnecessary drama he brought upon himself." Please tell me you are not talking about the womens day tweet... because boy would that be grasping at straws. Otherwise I'm gonna need a citation.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

I'm certain most of these negative comments are people who didn't listen to the show.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

I explained this in another comment but I'll say it again. Colin defending someone like Matty or Gene for getting dog piled on through no fault of their own is not the same thing. Jaffe is a drama queen. He instigates all this shit that happens to him on his Youtube channel. I absolutely would not expect Colin to defend him when he is the one who steps in it.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Great episode, confusing comments,

Eric Crunkilton

He said it cost money to vote because it will eliminate bots from voting and if you have to pay then it legitimizes the results better. Not really sure what you needed Colin to push back on there. Also the venue is modest because its a grass roots start. He explained that all the money they get goes back into the award show so potentially they can get a bigger venue. What is there you needed clarification on here? All these comments echo this but I'm certain most people here didn't even listen to the podcast its all right there.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

You could argue that Colin needs to push back on Jaffe more. But the reason I love Last Stand is because Colin is all about the conversation. If you need him to ask everyone about something someone said you shouldn't be here. Jaffe is a big boy. He made his bed and he can sleep in it. I'm sure he would say the same thing he doesn't need Colin to defend himself.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Ok, fair point. I agree with you there. But now that you say that Colin is a drama queen, and brings the drama to himself, honestly, I feel as though the same was true for Colin during the Kinda Funny days and before he stopped using his Twitter for personal use. I like Colin for his candor, but he definitely leaned into his person,a knowing full well it was contrarian at times, which brought a lot of unnecessary drama. And then he gets surprised and emotional still to this day when not many people wanted to defend the unnecessary drama he brought upon himself.

Faan

What's super funny about this "Real Game Awards" is that this years VGAs are the the best ever lol. Seriously this show is a tight one this year.

Morgan

The problem is that Jaffe puts himself in these situations. He is a drama queen. All the other examples like Matty was just lies through no fault of his own. Jaffe wont shut his mouth and attracts all this drama to himself. I don't expect Colin to defend him.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

The website for the real game awards is a joke. He is asking for money and promising nothing. If “the real game awards” is anything more than Craig sitting in front of his webcam and saying “the award goes to…”, if it even ever materialises, I’ll be shocked. What do you really think he is going to spend the money on? This is so obviously a grift.

Aaron Merrick

He doesn’t care, he’s a virtue signaling loser

Chris Evans

Because when I practice my religion I don’t force others to participate. Gender ideology states that if you don’t accept and play along with their world view you’re a problem that needs to be dealt with. That’s just not how the fucking world works

Chris Evans

Sure, Colin doesn't have to defend anyone. But Colin has shown himself to be quite loyal when defending Chris, Dustin (after that Easy Allies stuff last year), Gene (after any kind of Twitter drama), and Matty (after the Dragon Age drama). Jaffe is a contributor to LSM so seeing as how Colin has defended his peers I would've expected some kind of support for Jaffe. It's just something I noticed and it rubbed me the wrong way! Not saying Craig can't be on. Craig can speak his opinions! It seems like a double standard to me. I'm not saying you have to agree with me, but I hope you can see what I'm saying @Mr. Scott If You're Nasty.

Faan

Point to the doll where he hurt you

Mr. Scott If You're Nasty

I think his pricing model and where the venue will take place is a big one, actually. I get he wants to make an awards show for gamers, but The Game Awards is popular because of its announcements. And sure, there's joke awards such as worst review/gaming journalist but I think that just feeds into the already polarized state of the gaming community. Also, when he said his show is centrist. Look, I watch Craig's show sometimes and I enjoyed when he interviewed Colin last year, but his show is right leaning. I would've liked to see Colin take a more engaged approach to this interview by replying more than just being observant and listening most of the time.

Faan

Dude, what are you talking about? Jaffe is a grown man who makes his own decisions. Colin doesn't have to defend him.

Mr. Scott If You're Nasty

Well, I'm sure the Harry Potter IP being attached to it helped it a lot, lol :)

Faan

A lot of what LSM is about IS game development, so Jaffe's word matters a lot. For his stuff on Constellation, I hardly watch any of that, especially the politics episodes, cuz none of them are informed. When it comes to cultural issues in gaming, there's a lot of toxic positivity, as we saw in Concord's development, among other things - sure, you have that right. But what good is throwing profanities at fellow patrons? I'm not saying Craig shouldn't have been on; I think Colin should be a better, more engaged interviewer, as we saw on the Filip Mnucin episode (the IGN guy who plagiarized). The only issue I have is Colin not defending Jaffe to Craig, but whatever, I don't think Colin wanted to be confrontational to someone in person who's been in the industry as long as him.

Faan

Chris, why are you getting so worked up about people showing their opinions that they disapprove of this episode? Shall we all agree with your opinions? Would the world be a better place if we all agreed with what Chris Evans had to say?

Faan

I don't really have a problem with Craig. I don't agree with much of what Craig says but I just find it telling that Colin goes to bat to defend his employees but doesn't defend Jaffe to Craig (who has called Jaffe a bad father and made several negative videos on him). Kinda hypocritical on Colin's part. Of course, Craig can speak his stuff as Colin gives all of his guests. But that's something I've noticed.

Faan

Sure, Hogwarts Legacy deserved more nominations cuz it was the best selling game of the year, but honestly The Game Awards are not to be taken seriously. The BAFTAs and DICE awards are much more prestigious. The Game Awards are kinda like what the MTV Movie Awards were back in the aughts. Just a popularity contest.

Faan

That doesn’t mean his opinions are more important, it means he has more insight and knowledge about making games but when it comes to cultural issues in gaming or otherwise it means fucking nothing.

Chris Evans

Thank you for your resounding reply. A good quality of an interviewer is to follow up or push back when necessary. It also makes for a more engaging conversation. And because you think this is a left/right politics issue, you dwindle this down to people's feelings being hurt, apparently.

Faan

It rubs me the wrong way that Colin has Craig on after the crap he says about Jaffe, including that he's a bad father. Colin went all for defending Matty (as he should) for the sh*t he got after his Dragon Age review and defended him against Grummz. Meanwhile, Colin won't defend Jaffe to Craig. LMAO, for someone who is still consistently reminding us that he got excommunicated from the games industry (of his own volition, mind you), it's ironic to see you not defend Jaffe. But whatever, Colin, you hate your audience and paying Patreon members unless they brown-nose you.

Faan

Fuck these people Colin, all the backlash from these absolute charmin soft pussies means you’re doing the right thing.

Chris Evans

Exactly. The man made God of War and Twisted Metal. He can say whatever TF he wants. It's like people calling Francis Ford Cappola an idiot rn for Megalopolis even though he made 3 films considered one of the best of all time - Godfather 1+2 and Apocalpyse Now. TF has Craig done?

Faan

I have zero idea who this guy was. I just didn't vibe what he was bringing to the table. So I couldn't listen to the rest, also y'all really don't like him 😅😅

DarthLemon616

Yeah, because he's THE David Jaffe. He's earned it.

Grant MacNamara

The tolerant left in all their glory in the comments. Good episode, and nice to see Craig on the show.

kunsam

That was such a weird comment he made. Most people who play games don't cosplay. Talk about being in a bubble. "Normal Men" cosplay. 😂

Caleb Jurgens

I know right we all know Jaffe is the most honest guy ever who would never take something anyone would say out of context...

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

What did you disagree with about their conversation? Assuming you even listened to it...

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

So boring it went on to sell 30 million copies...

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

What do you think he should have pushed back on? Aside from some funny joke award.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Hogwarts Legacy is a boring video game. That's why it wasn't nominated.

Addiholic

All the pussies in these comments are fucking wild. Jaffe can come on here spewing his bullshit grifting low information talking points but nobody else can.

Chris Evans

It’s fine for you to feel that way. But what makes you care about others’ choices? It’s like religion. I don’t agree with most religions and think it’s all made up, but I don’t tell them “you’re believing in a fairytale and you’re dumb for falling for it.”

Dakota Brown

Also it seems like almost everyone has a problem with Elden Ring DLC being nominated for GOTY. They just don't seem to listen...

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Agreed, this was a perfectly cordial conversation. Nothing to cry about

Kjellbjørn Åsmo

I think you’re probably right. Hell some people here fully admit to not even having listened. This guy must come with a lot of baggage I’m just unaware of that have a lot of feathers ruffled. I remember Screw Attack in name only from my college days, but I’ve never heard of this guy before, so maybe I’m missing a lot of context.

Dante B

I'm thinking most people didn't even listen. But the irony is they talk about how you don't have to agree with everyone who is on or even watch every episode of their shows. But the fact that people who disagree can have a great conversation is what is the secret sauce. But all these losers in the comments walked right into that wall and look like fools.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Easily one of the worst episodes ever lmao. Listening to this episode I just could think: “my goat is washed” it’s hard to believe the Colin from the past would go this soft on an interview with a dude that perfectly encapsulates his definition of “wrong voices” in the cultural wars.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

Saying Jaffe's kid is trans is just downright nasty and bigoted

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

The Real Game Awards is corny as fuck to be sure, but I’m shocked at the amount of hate in this comment section. I feel like I’m on another planet. He was perfectly cordial, well spoken, not out here saying something deliberately inflammatory. Just a reasonable, measured discussion. Of all the episodes to get this much ire from the community, I can’t believe it’s this one.

Dante B

I feel like most of these people didn't even listen to the podcast. Its honestly 2 old game journalists waxing about the industry and how disconnected journalists/developers are from gamers. Like if you cant agree on simple things like that I'm not sure why you are listening to Last Stand.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

I have nothing to add other than I hate this guy's whole vibe, before taking anything about his views into account. Quit staring into my soul with those icy blues white walker!

Gooch Gobbler

Because you can’t change your gender period end of story. Forcing people to accept fiction is unacceptable

Chris Evans

In fairness only a bad dad would let their kid believe they are something they aren’t

Chris Evans

I agree Grummz is a jackass. But so is Jaffe. They're on opposing sides but I think they both suck.

Mike Held

😂

Xstar25

Cry more

Chris Evans

The problem is the people running it, Hogwarts Legacy barely sniffed a nomination despite being very deserving for example

Chris Evans

Aw are your fee fees hurt?

Chris Evans

Bro Jaffe is a former dev who smokes weed and talks on a YouTube channel. Grummz literally actively scams people with a game that he’s been working on for 8 years without an alpha, and uses obviously fake stories to rage bait financial support for himself. You either don’t know what the word grifter is or you don’t know much about Grummz, or worse you’re just a brainwashed putz.

Max Davis

Man I didn't even know about the "worst review" category. This shit is so negative even outside of the culture war stuff. The reviewer that "won" would probably take it as a badge of pride

Gooch Gobbler

All you people whining in the comments didn't even listen to the podcast. This was more of a discussion on the disconnect between journalists/developers and gamers. And the shitty politics behind The Game Awards. If you people don't agree with these sentiments then why the hell are you on Last Stand media? This is the same stuff Colin has been saying for years.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

"I wouldn't want them at my party anyway!!!" ass energy

Gooch Gobbler

tell me you didn't listen to the podcast without telling me you didn't listen to the podcast.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

If you’re not doing acceptance speeches and letting them have their moment, it doesn’t feel like you’re celebrating the game. And if you’re not properly celebrating it, it feels less that you’re doing it for gamers, and more doing it just to be contrary to the VGA’s because you don’t like their agenda. Does Craig make a lot of great points about TGAs? Sure. Does his idea of what the awards should be also seem equally greasy? Yep. Why don’t you get The Quartering to host? Lmao

Jamie Hexum

Oh yikes

Anthony Palerino

Right Wing Gamer FUBU

Gooch Gobbler

Right on the money, I can hear about this angle 10, 15, 20 times, but we are reaching like 30+ now lol

Gooch Gobbler

The title alone instantly discredits it lol

Gooch Gobbler

The Addis is what the people need.

Jack Doheny

Agreed. David Jaffe has got to go.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

He's selling $150 tickets to a show with no date or location. He's a grifter

Matthew Novak

I know dude its pretty nuts. I'm guessing the same people complaining about this have no problem with the garbage that David Jaffe does.

Flint Dibble and the Dibble singers

Yeah because Jaffe said some dumb things the past couple weeks and brought it on himself

Swaffles23

Really not a fan of Craig personally. I was gonna try to give this a chance but after seeing therealgameawards and some of those catagories definitely steering clear of this one. I respect Colin's right to have who he wants on his show, just mean they're not all gonna be for me and that's okay. It's a shame though. Would have loved to hear about this from anyone else since I think TGAs are a big problem.

Addiholic

Okay but why is it okay to treat this guy like absolute shit for so much as being present?

Khyle Claeys

Colin didn’t push back at all in this interview. Don’t think we should be taking Craig serious with categories like “best jiggle physics”.

Blake

As a ‘gamer’ I DO love dressing up smart and would to go to an award show like TGA. This is so out of touch to think that ‘gamers’ want something different and chilled. No, the majority of gamers are blokes who work, go out at weekends and have a normal life. ‘Nerd’ gamers who want to dress in costumes or all black are the minority. The absolute minority.

Matt

Gross vibes. Gotta stop listening to this episode 20 minutes in. Sometimes vetting guests IS good even if it only weeds out a few individuals or groups.

Kevin Luther

The Game Awards tends to be a boring slog that has little to do with actual awards and a lot to do with advertising. I’m willing to listen and hear the guy out despite his internet content being bottom of the barrel but an awards show that costs $150 to attend with no location or date and categories like “best jiggle physics” isn’t exactly the most enticing sell.

Michael (ObjoGaming)

Fuck this guy

Ryan Mathews

This dude’s fucking corny. I’m a liberal but am very open minded to hearing someone with a different perspective. Maybe that would obvious since I’ve been a patron for a while, after all, I love Colin and think he’s one of the sharpest minds in the gaming industry even if I disagree with him on some stuff politically. However, Craig is a very unique breed of dumbass and he has proven over and over again that he’s just a grifter turd. The “platform” vs “de-platform” argument is whatever to me, I don’t even care about that at all - it’s more like, does Colin REALLY not see through how much of doofy-ass fraud this guy is?

Collin Goodspeed

I think it’s a sore spot because everything that the resetera type people accuse LSM of being, that’s what Sidescrollers actually is.

Zachary Beach

‘ real gamers ‘ just want to be left alone to game in peace . I don’t mind game awards it’s a bit of glitz and glamour for one night only .

Niall Harrison

I've been listening to LSM for 6-7 years and this is the most bitchy comment section I've ever seen 🤣 some of yall need to grow tf up.

Khyle Claeys

Really disappointed in seeing this on LSM.

Cameron O'Neill

The Real Grift Awards?

Eric Smith the Bartender (not the Sony Employee)

Jaffe invited the vitriol. Craig responded accordingly. Have you guys watched Jaffe's youtube channel? He is more or less well-behaved on LSM content but he is unhinged, ignorant and mean-spirited on his youtube channel.

Mike Held

spoiler he doesn't

Eric the human

That’s fine if you do. However, Jaffe is a friend of Colin’s and a contributor to Last Stand. It’s really strange that Colin would have someone who actively insults Jaffe on the show.

EarthboundNuess

A bit disappointed about the soft touch Colin has taken with this episode, this feels like a paid ad

Bruce The Genetic Jackhammer Rando

Thinking you can magically change your gender is some next-level mental gymnastics.

Mike Held

Colin this guy has the IQ of Simple Jack. You can do better than him bud.

Trevor Cripe

Because they have been brainwashed by right wing figures and media. They want their voters to be blinded and focus of transgenders, immigration and basically nothing else. Meanwhile their voters slowly lose their rights, the health of their environment and the wealth inequality gap greatly widens

Keith Farrell

Ignore everyone here LSM. I loved this episode. I think you should have craig on more often.

kiNeMs

I thought this was awesome.

kiNeMs

Being anti-trans in 2024 is seriously mind boggling. I cannot imagine the gymnastics one must go through to be okay with just not referring to somebody as what they want to be called.

Scott LaFontaine

I never comment on these things cause I just like it and move on when I listen. But this is utter garbage. What a waste of time and hope this isn’t a sign that more of this crap is coming.

Alexander Canovaca

Nice of you to have Grummz JR on SS+

Dan Morgan

Oh I agree, I don’t like what this guy stands for at all. I’m here for it.

Lizurd

As they should. This isn’t even a left or right politics thing. This guy sucks and I’m glad everyone is more or less letting Colin and LSM know. Colin may or may not dismiss it but at the very least it can’t be ignored

Shawn

Yeah a psychopath also lacks empathy. Disagree with Jaffe all you want but to say Jaffe isn't empathetic is an insane take. Jaffe is empathetic to a fault if anything. He goes so hard because he cares so much.

Eric the human

NGL (I'm a conservative, it's not that) this guy seems like a massive cunt. Additionally, the "The Real Game Awards" is automatically Dollar General game awards.

Eric Golley

Ya’ll guys are whiney bastards

Luke Douglas

lmao okay

Eric the human

Just finished, great conversation Colin and Craig 🙂

Kjellbjørn Åsmo

What a lunatic.

Christian Longo

The fact that you don’t see it reenforces why you’re a sad clown

Scott

Every episode of Craig's show is EXACTLY the same. It's like being in a timeloop. They have the same talking points over and over. His coverage of Jaffe was was incredibly frustrating. They were taking Jaffes words and looking at them in the most disingenuous way. Then he had to point out that Jaffe's child is trans because Jaffe is a bad father. This guy might have been a good guy, but he is long gone.

LongJohnSivers#1Fan

Lmao comment section going in on this one

Lizurd

Rare Sacred Symbols L

Mitch Riggins

I don't see how expressing my disagreements is having a "2 week meltdown" but go off I guess. Say what you want but at least I don't make my entire personality simping for a presidential candidate. There's more to life than "owning the libs" ya know.

Eric the human

Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by antisocial behaviors and affective abnormalities. If you don't think Jaffe fits this description than I don't know who you've been watching. I also know what the word 'patronizing' means, Eric.

Mike Held

could've fooled me unless you're just being hyperbolic but that doesn't really read that way

Eric the human

I don't understand how people can like Jaffe. I find him insufferable.

Mike Held

Solid convo, but from looking at Craigs Twitter, I’m not really interested in anything Craig is doing. I don’t think he’s a grifter at all, but he’s just a little too obsessed with gender politics and being “anti-DEI”.

Anthony Palerino

Got 18 minutes in, nahh

start a infection

Doesn't this guy routinely publish videos shitting on Jaffe, much the same way people publish videos about Colin? I found 3 jaffe videos published on his channel within the last two weeks alone.

Garret

Really interesting conversation, keep up the great work!

Kelzilla

I have no familiarity with Craig so I can't speak to his purported grifting, but these conversations about establishment media are becoming really trite imo. Sure they often start off on the presented subject (in this case Craig's game awards) but quickly devolve into the same old "games media isn't relevant and doesn't respect content creators" talking points. It comes off as the same begging for legitimacy you're criticizing the video games industry doing with traditional award shows

Seany Mac

Huge fan of Screwattack back in the day. I know Craig has gone in a direction I'm not a fan of, but I will always respect him and I'm willing to hear him out on this!

Ethan Barcelos

You’re the last person to talk about this subject since you had a 2 week melt down over the election. You’re a clown who’s more sad than funny

Scott

I will genuinely never understand why some people are so focused on the trans-community. Just leave them alone. I get that the online discourse is what riles up people and feeling like things are “shoved down their throats.” However, I work with the community as a therapist and no one acts like that in real life. I accidentally misgender people at times and I haven’t lost my job or been screamed at by anyone. You’re entitled to your opinion Colin and I respect your gaming knowledge. I just really struggle to understand the comments this guest and you at times make about the trans-community. They just wanna be left alone and not attacked for being who they are. I’m sure you know this, but I had to say something since the comments do really bother me.

Dakota Brown

Just go watch his YouTube channel. I'm not going to hunt down quotes for you. He's just griffting in the opposite direction of people like Grummz. Jaffe is a pro-DEI grifter and Grummz is an anti-DEI grifter. But they're both grifters all the same.

Mike Held

How is Gaffe a grifter or what has he said that is hateful? Genuinely asking because I’ve never heard him be hateful.

Dakota Brown

I’m all for LSM interviewing anyone they choose to regardless of their opinions, but I’m not sure having someone who’s essentially a scam artist charging people to vote in an award show built around culture warring is a good idea unless it’s to hold his feet to the fire. Hope Colin treats him with the same furor he treated people like Hasan Kahraman or Filip Miucin.

badlybrave

I’m glad there’s a variety of perspectives presented at LSM. Also, I was shepherded deep down the Concord rabbit hole on YouTube this summer and Sidescrollers popped up a lot. I watched 3 of their clips, and in 2 of the 3 they did Ching Chong and Ebonics voices for essentially no reason. Added nothing to their point. When Colin laments that the wrong voices are being featured in the culture wars, these are exactly the kinds of people that come to mind.

Jimmy G

Eric, with all due respect, I know what both of those words mean. But thanks.

Mike Held

I enjoyed side scrollers the first months but they have fallen into a pattern of only looking for the negative in the industry. I am all for shining a light on this stuff but it can't just be that. I am not calling him a grifter like some in this comment section. I don't think he is. I enjoy Craig most when he is outside of his normal setting and normal crew. Like this podcast 🙂

Kjellbjørn Åsmo

This is maybe the first ever SS+ I skip. This guy engages in the community and industry in bad faith and I hate listening to him. Disappointing he is being taken seriously by Colin.

BrenRoze

Mike with all due respect I don't think you know what the word "literally" or "psychopath" mean. He can be a bit much sometimes but that's a big stretch.

Eric the human

"You and your unwillingness to hear from those who think differently than yourself are the reason there’s so much tension in this space." This dude and others like him push this kind of division and profit off of it. I can only speak for myself but I'm sure a lot of of others feel the same. I have no issue with listening to people and ideas I don't agree with. I actually try to embrace it as much as I can. But that doesn't mean not being critical at the same time. Just calling a spade a spade here. This dude is Grummz lite at best.

Eric the human

Dukes will upload Saturday so they can react to the game awards.

Jamie Hexum

Don’t really care for this dude or the idea of awards shows at all but I enjoyed the conversation Good listen while I do my boring driving job Thanks 🙏🏼

Cami Black

Colin you’ll probably never see this, but I’m one of those delivery guys who listens everyday, and when I see a 4 hour podcast I’m happy cause I know I’m going to be entertained for the day. What you and last stand does matters a lot.

Whiskeywhiskey

This guy’s channel is so incredibly lame. It’s bottom of the barrel level of content to me, but i’m sure y’all’s conversation will be interesting so I’ll still check it out

Josh Bartlett

I think the bigger issue for some is that he has actively made negative comments about Jaffe being a parent. Which is pretty gross. IMO

DextrousJOE

I think most people’s issue with The Game Awards is in large part how many ads there are, not that they bring devs on to accept the awards. Last year speeches got cut short and caused a big uproar. Personally I dislike that some are given out during the pre show and just shoved to the side. IMO a “gaming” award show becomes less about the game/celebration of games as a whole, and much more about personal opinion when you don’t give credit to the team who worked hard to bring that game or dream to life. It just feels like a random persons top 5 list. TGA isn’t perfect, and could use some improvement, but it’s cool to see devs get their flowers. Thanks as always to LSM for being able to have discussions on a variety of topics!!

BrandonA

“Oh wow! This guy wants to make an award show BY gamers, FOR gamers! 🤪” -Colin’s headass 😭😭😂

Ryan

You guys really need to go watch Jaffe's channel. He says some very hateful, ignorant and stupid things. And Craig called him out on it. There's a difference between being a blatant grifter like Grummz and calling it like you see it. Jaffe is more of a grifter than Craig.

Mike Held

If you allow your child who is a minor, mutilate themselves, than you are bad parent.

Mike Held

If you don’t care for the guest the best option really is to not listen. It’s opt in similar to the political episodes. Looking forward to Duke and SS after the game awards though.

Yo mamas so fat I had to rent a server farm just download a picture and I still didnt have enough space!!

Jaffe is literally a psychopath.

Mike Held

In my opinion, an award is meant to celebrate work or an achievement. This seems like less of an award show and more of a census among whichever group of gamers would want to participate in his niche show. Which is fine, I just don’t think it’s interesting and merits a convo like this. I’m not defending the TGAs and how they handle things, but it’s weird to not want to involve anyone that actually makes games in your “award show.”

Layth Al-Nadi

Yes

Grimm Carousel

I think the liveliness of this comment section is a perfect demonstration of why some people choose to be inflammatory online on purpose. It gets engagement. Not a commentary on the guest or the episode, as I haven’t listened yet (reading a book at the library at the moment), but just an observation.

Bill Cosby singing Baby, It’s Cold Outside

I understand that and that's not okay either, but talking shit about someone is way different than questioning someone's parenting and mocking their children.

Birds Aren't Real

Side scrollers has said mean things about Jaffe. Jaffe has said mean things about Craig and Vera dark. Let's all move on and talk about games.

MayorGarbageMan

It’s a discussion about an alternative game award show couples with an industry issue one, I’m not sure what’s redundant here anymore than most gaming discussions happening anywhere; it’s almost all retreaded ground outside of personal takes. Isn’t that why you’re here?

The Rose Experience

I love the idea of an alternative game awards that has a carefully selected committee of board members of various expertise and beliefs. One that actually understands genres and doesn’t put Sifu in best fighting game. But that’s not what this is. This is just the anti DEI awards. Clearly a scam and will never succeed. It exists solely as a “hehehehe” to the mainstream option.

Mattveego

I’m sorry but immediately I must call bs on something. This guy wants us to believe that he won’t have guests from the industry because it’s for the gamers? Isn’t it kind of obvious that no PR person in their right mind would let their talent go on a divisive event? I mean isn’t one of this guys rotating chairs that girl best known for calling people a certain F slur?

Zachary Beach

Is that stuttering John's nephew?

Hugo Ramos

You just seem like you’re looking for an excuse to leave. By all means man…

The Rose Experience

Evil? Jesus Christ.

The Rose Experience

It’s ironic how many of you are in the comments labeling Craig as some sort of evil tyrant while simultaneously expressing that you have no intention or desire to hear him out and listen to anything he has to say on this show. I don’t agree with 90% of what Jaffe says but I still listen to the shows he’s on and I certainly don’t write him off as a grifter or monster just because we are ideologically opposed. You and your unwillingness to hear from those who think differently than yourself are the reason there’s so much tension in this space.

Will Anderson

And as someone that’s been listening since beyond I do understand

Ben Haner

He’s toxic to the space, just like that grummz character, I’m obviously not alone in this opinion and I respect your decision to have him on, I’m just not a fan and was just expressing that

Ben Haner

Honestly, boring conversation thus far beyond the problem people have with the guest whom I’m unfamiliar with. He’s just not interesting and has nothing original to say.

Layth Al-Nadi

ITT: people who use grifter in place of people they don’t agree with in order to handwave any discussion. Grifter has to be the most overused and entirely misused word in social media discourse. Honestly, grow up. Saying that, Craig’s idea is terrible and only can be niche if it even gets off the ground. I guess anyone can have an awards show, but what he’s talking about has no future. An award show that isn’t about the game creators at all is stupid. They made the fucking games and you’re not going to give them a chance to talk or even be thanked? Saying it’s about gamers is fine but you hold zero weight by seemingly taking an antagonistic stance towards the people responsible for making the things you’re talking about. Yes the media is mostly shit and antagonistic to their audience but Craig seemingly is mistaking them for the creators. It’s odd. I don’t love the Game Awards (certainly don’t hate them either) and there’s room for improvement or an alternative, but what’s being discussed here just isn’t it. He’s certainly welcome to try, though.

The Rose Experience

Given Colin's (and LSM's) anti-grifter stance, it would've been nice if Craig was at least challenged on his grifting tactics. Keep that same energy towards Grummz here! Comes off a bit hypocritical. Edit: Exhibit A - https://www.youtube.com/@SideScrollersPodcast/videos just take a look at the recent videos.

Bropacman

Not to go all Easy Allies on this situation but if anyone should have been vetted, it’s this guy. I wonder what Jaffe thinks of you having someone on the show who publicly called him an abusive parent.

Aaron Merrick

Jaffe regularly has people on his show that talk immense shit about me, clip out our content, make videos about us, and generally demean us. I wouldn't dream of asking him not to have those people on his show, because I'm not an enormous baby, and it's not a reflection on our own relationship. As you think I'm a "narcissist," I'm confused why you're here at all, honestly. -Colin

Colin Moriarty

Isn't this guy a straight up grifter these days? I. Recognise the reseteraness of my question EDIT: Having listened to the podcast, based on what was said, having an award for "worst review" is an awful idea and is just going to see an individual get dogpiled and bullied. Also you can tell a mile away the "worst game" award category will include all the "woke" games kotakuinaction waste their lives moaning about

Ulysses Motherfucker!

Colin you got taken for a riiiiiide dude. Crazy to see lol

Ryan

Skipping this one unfortunately. This guy is a grifter and scammer

Shawn

Thanks for the info!

Bill Cosby singing Baby, It’s Cold Outside

If you think I'm going to "steer clear" of anyone, you really don't understand what we do here, or why. -Colin

Colin Moriarty

I think Craig is a turd, but the fact Colin will bring him on is a big part of why I think LSM rules.

Richard

Yeah this really makes me question my membership. Colin calls Jaffe a "friend" but then has people like this on that are very mean and hurtful towards him.. doesn't sound like a friend to me. And Colin is such a narcissist that he'll refuse to see anything wrong with it.

Birds Aren't Real

Sacred symbols +?

Ryan Harvey

I'll listen to this just out of curiosity, but the whole beefing with each other in the gamersphere is getting pretty tiring and lame!

Diego Cruz (Abims0)

Correct! This is so they can cover the Game Awards announcements. -Dustin

Dustin Furman

Not a fan of this guy LSM steer clear but that’s just an opinion

Ben Haner

Birds Aren't Real

After he called jaffe a terrible parent for supporting his kid i cant stand this fucking guy and his grifting piece of shit podcast.

Crypto135

Not for me—I'm not a fan of grifters.

Sam

Respect for having the conversation but this'll be a skip for me. I can't take this guy seriously. Also, don't you have to have a giant ego to think that YOU are going to do the REAL game awards. Come on. Edit: I'm gonna listen just out of respect for Colin and LSM but this guy is just as much of a joke in the industry as Grummz and the fanboys. He's doing the same divisive shit that we do not want here. Anyway, gonna listen as much as I can stand. Edit 2: an hr in and im glad to see Colin FINALLY disagreed with him a little bit. Given how vehemently he disagreed with Craig a few months ago I'm surprised he didn't press him more on those disagreements. It wasn't even talked about. I guarantee you that $30/yr membership will be more expensive next year. Anyway Colin, I don't have a problem with you having the guy on. But when you talk about people poisoning the well in the gaming space...this guy is one of them. Just would have liked to see you push him a bit.

Michael Welter

So Duke on Saturday, then?

Bill Cosby singing Baby, It’s Cold Outside

🤢

Eric the human

Lol hell yeah 🤙 Pumped for this one!

Joe Perez