Warmup Sketch Commission Clarification
Added 2016-05-22 15:12:29 +0000 UTCIt's come to my attention that at least one person was getting some fan grief for using their Patreon sketch commission slot to auction and resell and do whatever to either mitigate the price or make a profit.
I have no problem with this.
As long as my business relationship on this end remains simple and meets my terms for the pledge, I'm fine. As long as I get the information without complications and issues, in a timely manner, I don't care about the process on the pledge holder's end. People doing this doesn't change my obligation, work load, or income.
This may put an end to people who want to create a fuss over nothing. Thanks!
Comments
I know I've been waiting 2 years to try for it, but nobody gives up that pledge slot lol
Artica
2016-07-16 01:43:05 +0000 UTCFair enough thanks for the answer!
hashirama senju
2016-06-03 02:17:43 +0000 UTCBecause I only have time to reliably do 10 per month without it preventing me from doing everything else I have to do.
Jay Naylor
2016-06-02 18:51:43 +0000 UTCWhy exactly are only 10 people allowed to have the 50 slot? Why not more like 50 or even more?
hashirama senju
2016-06-02 15:12:48 +0000 UTCWhere it becomes frustrating is for all those on a waitlist to try and get those limited commission slots from you and somebody is just holding onto it and rather getting art for themselves or friends is selling it off.
Martin Mahoney aka. Qckslvrslash
2016-05-31 23:07:33 +0000 UTCI understand. My view and interpretation of being "ripped off" differs from yours, so with that, I'll just be quiet.
Frostfox
2016-05-24 15:22:44 +0000 UTCThing is, I can't be on the fence. To me, being "ripped off" isn't a feeling, a notion, a sensation that I have. It's a situation that has to be rooted in fact. I have to be losing out, materially. I have to be tricked out of something owed. None of those material circumstances apply, so by an assessment of reality (not a feeling, not a suspicion or a vague notion) I'm not being ripped off.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-24 15:05:48 +0000 UTCI feel I gave an opinion and understand your standing with your explanation. I perhaps would run things differently, but I'm not you, nor do I hold your artistic talent. I... am on the fence with both of our statements.
Frostfox
2016-05-24 15:00:12 +0000 UTCDo you still agree with your observation despite my explanation?
Jay Naylor
2016-05-24 14:51:16 +0000 UTCAgain, just an observation from a... i guess best term would be "concerned patron."
Frostfox
2016-05-24 14:50:25 +0000 UTCWhat keeps people from buying commission slots is the fact there are only 10 and they're all taken. One can buy a slot as soon as someone else drops one. Come the day there's enough "discouragement" that I have trouble filling the 10 slots, you will be right. But that day isn't here, and I predict it will never come.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-24 14:48:57 +0000 UTCDiscouragement might lead to people no longer buying the $50 commission slots, especially if to get one, someone would need to pay maybe $75 or even $100 to get it. Just my opinion and observation, not telling you how to run things, mind you *holds hands up at sides innocently*
Frostfox
2016-05-24 14:45:59 +0000 UTCExplain how I'm losing money. Commission slots can only be held by one person at a time so you can't buy a "chunk" of slots.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-24 14:40:23 +0000 UTCI don't know Jay... isn't that kinda using you and ripping you off at the same time? They can essentially buy a good chunk of the slots and jack the prices up, discouraging those who really do want your commission pics. It might discourage them to the point of not bothering to grab a commission slot.
Frostfox
2016-05-24 14:12:09 +0000 UTCPretty much.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-24 13:19:18 +0000 UTCSo as long as you get credit and the $50 you don't care if someone is selling the commission spot on the side for more? Does that sum it up?
MKX Player
2016-05-23 22:40:41 +0000 UTCI think the complainer probably figured that other patron users don't allow it and they'd use it to start a fuss here.
legojohn
2016-05-23 17:06:36 +0000 UTCThings like this are why I sleep on the floor and think heating my beans up before eating them counts as gourmet... I'd never have thought of doing this. Genius! :D
Teh Feeesh
2016-05-23 11:59:59 +0000 UTCIt's good of you to address this. At least now, the complainers should understand your position and accept it. If they don't, at least your position is crystal clear to them. Personally, if I was in the $50.00 tier and I commissioned one of your drawings, I'd keep it so I could show it off to everyone; but, that's me.
Glenn Sellers
2016-05-22 16:06:16 +0000 UTCThis is why I love you, Naylor... No homo tho
Luis Camara
2016-05-22 15:52:31 +0000 UTCI don't care if someone sells space in their commission to another person. But the work has to be credited to me and I don't think that's an issue.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-22 15:49:16 +0000 UTCSo, as a dumb question, was the person (random name: Longfellow) doing this: pay $50/month, get sketch (or wait 2 months for $100), sell picture as their own work (or "official Jay Naylor content"); or: pay $50/month (or $100/2 months for color pic), run auction of "You describe, Jay draws, I give to you!"? I would think that, while "Longfellow's" character would be theirs, the pic would belong to Jay, unless it's done as a "I'm commissioning you to draw this so I can sell it" situation.
Joseph "Fortain" Housley
2016-05-22 15:47:42 +0000 UTCAs long as it doesn't make the commission slots go away, I'm fine with it.
N
2016-05-22 15:27:12 +0000 UTCPrinciples matter.
Jay Naylor
2016-05-22 15:22:10 +0000 UTCFree market. ;)
SithYautja
2016-05-22 15:15:51 +0000 UTC
