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Ted Bundy: A Killer in the Archives
Ted Bundy: A Killer in the Archives

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Hugh Aynesworth Interview, 1980

Hugh Aynesworth interviews Ted in this recording, dated June 24, 1980. They discuss the psychology of "a person" who could have committed the murders, as well as the Chi Omega and Caryn Campbell cases.

"In our urban society we don't know a lot of people. So, uh… Then I suppose there's also like, "He would've got me if I hadn't got him." Which might not fit into what we have here. But on the other hand, there might be some mass murderers that might say, "Well, she or he would have hurt me if I hadn't hurt them." They might also say, "Well, there's so many people, they won't be missed. So, what's one less person on the face of the planet? What difference will it make 100 years from now?" Again, they're not... they're rationalizations, but not rational. They're justifications but they're not just. Just like anything, that's the way it works, that can apply to any number of different things, but it also applies to the persons who are trying to cope with their need to kill. They're not coping with what's really driving them to do that. Maybe they don't know what it is. They can't see it. They don't want to see it. So, they come up with the other justifications. And again, they're just throwing up any number of things just to try to make some sense out of it. They might say the victim was luring them, or trying to arouse them in some way. "They deserved it." You know. All sorts of things like this. It's a commonplace excuse on the part of child molesters, rapists, and the like. That they would say that the victim lured them on or the child was trying to excite them and arouse them. When in fact that was probably not the case, but that's just the justification used by the perpetrator to make some sense out of his crime."

Thanks to Leto for originally making the transcript, which I've edited and uploaded here.


Comments

I've listened to the Conversations With A Killer audiobook numerous times but there's nothing like hearing it from the man himself. What a gem, much appreciated!

Nunya consoin

I can’t believe how much Bundy talked in circles.

Stephanie Murguia


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