(Complete) Devil In The Waters, Book 2, Chapter 5
Added 2020-01-05 01:44:53 +0000 UTCEleven at night she woke in Josh’s arms, her back to his chest, the two of them spooned in their bed. It was her stomach growling that roused her. After coming back from the Fox and Dragon they’d kind of fought, and she’d thought they’d skidded their marriage into a slippery patch, but somehow it all ended up okay. They’d skipped dinner to make love three times. If she were to peep over her husband’s sleeping body to the floor beside the bed she would see three tied-off condoms. Whatever had been insinuating into Josh’s sexuality and diminishing his abilities the last while seemed to be corrected.
She didn’t deserve such a warm and caring night of lovemaking after all the lies she told him. Not lies, but half-truths. And, of course, there was the stuff omitted. Black-lined by the government, redacted top-secret stuff. Eyes only, and that was for those deemed to have the right security clearance. Josh did not have the right security clearance. Or was he the enemy? She’d made Josh her adversary by what she did with Devin at the party. Or what she allowed to happen, rather. Now her husband was an opponent she needed to outwit. It was a strange entanglement because what was at stake was how much she loved her adversary. She wanted his feelings spared, and, most importantly, she wanted what was between them preserved and unmarred.
Oh, you mean you want to get away with what happened?
Pretty much, yes.
Only because she loved Josh deeply; had loved him that way since high school. The subterfuge was only necessary because she loved him.
That didn’t make it okay. She knew that.
Without disturbing Josh she circled in his clutch to face him, their dry and naked bodies slipping together like silk. Josh slept peacefully.
One thing was true: she’d expected him to trust her, and because she didn’t want to face for what she was guilty she leaned on his trust. It was laziness. Carelessness. Not careless in the sense that it might damage her ability to get away with what happened. No, it was careless with Josh’s heart.
She thumbed his lip, smiling watching the man she’d known so long at peace. She hoped what she’d told him settled the unease he felt. It had helped her, too.
Now she was a woman with a secret, but one whose marriage was righted on its tracks again, the steam engine that drove it beginning to chug. It would be an awful sliver in her psyche but she would burden it, and from here on, what they had would be cherished and preserved. It would take time. Even while making love with Josh her thoughts had drifted to Devin. It was awful, but Josh had inspired it. Unwittingly, of course, but the act of holding her hands above her head and putting himself inside her while looking in her eyes brought back intense memories.
Before they were interrupted on Tiffany’s grass, Devin had got his cock inside her. Not quite, but almost. Her tightness fought his huge size. It was cheating. Kind of.
It wasn’t her will. But she didn’t resist it. Then Devin came to the home she shared with this loving man whose cheek she cupped, and she let Devin put his fingers inside her. Her heart began to race even thinking about it now. The shame, the awfulness. Devin Stone was a fucking asshole. When this man she hated shoved his big hand in her panties she’d done nothing. Allowed him to finger her.
Fuck, the way he’d made her come had left her devastated. That was her sliver; that was her burden. The thing with Devin ended tonight.
Her thumb traced Josh’s delicate jaw. She kissed the tip of his nose, then backed herself out of the bed. Shorts and a sweatshirt were donned in the dark and she slipped out of the bedroom, phone in the sweatshirt’s pouch, and she padded down the hall to the kitchen.
Devin was done. That was for certain. But the item Josh had presented her in the hall had stirred from her a strange response. One that had hidden in the bushes of her mind, waiting to jump out and punch her when she walked by unsuspecting.
She stopped under the kitchen’s arch and looked at her phone. 11:13. Not too late. She texted.
Kimmy: why’d you leave that business card asshole?
Phone tucked back in the pouch, she brought down a plate, opened the fridge and grabbed baby carrots and some sour cream, cream cheese, and orange juice. From the cupboard she took melba toast. She sat at the island on the kitchen side in the dark and picked at the food, spreading cheese on toast, dipping carrots in sour cream, taking very small sips on her OJ.
Devin Stone was a manipulative bastard. He’d backed her into a corner somehow, here in her own home, had her submitting to him even though she hated him, then he fingers her—another man’s wife—makes her come all over the place. Embarrass herself with a wet sexual deluge between her legs. Leaves her there, legs shaking. But that sneaky prick left a funny little time bomb he must have chuckled about later: His damn business card.
When Josh had presented it to her, she had nothing prepared to say. It had slapped her across the cheek. She spoke absently, seeking a measure of truth to plaster into the crack forming in her story.
I was thinking of going back to work.
Kind of true. But work for Devin? No way. Yet . . .
Her phone buzzed against her stomach; she put it on the counter and lit it up.
Devin: wanted to make sure you had my number
Fucking asshole. That was a mean and terrible thing to do to her. There was no reason to do that other than to mess with her.
Kimmy: I have your number
Devin left the card because he didn’t care about her marriage. A fling with her was just a big joke to him.
Devin: what’s the big deal?
Kimmy: Josh found it
She cursed him, shaking her head, watching for his response to arrive while she packed the lids back on the dairy tubs. Nothing came, and now she cursed herself for ever engaging with Devin Stone. What would make her want a guy like that in her life? Such a toxic presence, one she’d happily severed from her life after high school. All that shit he’d spun to her in the hallway, how she’d matured the best out of the girls from Dalton, was sleazy privileged white boy talk she saw through before the spinning gold even wove from between his lips.
The phone dinged on the island counter, and she returned.
Devin: I wanted you to think about what I said
She folded her arms, thinking how what he’d said was exactly what a woman like her did want to hear. She was better than those skanks. Once they were all out of high school she always knew it would be apparent.
Kimmy: said about what?
Devin: it’s my business card . . .
Non-sequiturs, incomplete answers. Like he was testing her. Business card. Business. Okay, he was talking about the job. He’d never even made a formal offer, just a bunch of what-ifs and ragging on her basket business.
Kimmy: if that’s how you run your business what do you think my answer is?
Leaving a card in her hall table was juvenile.
Devin: what was my question?
Now she chuckled, a feeling of satisfaction easing her shoulders.
Kimmy: good night Devin now stay out of my life
She stood by the counter waiting to see what his response would be. No return came.
The counter was cleaned, plate and cutlery loaded into the dishwasher, then she wiped up with a damp cloth. Still no reply. Good.
Phone in her pouch, she padded back to the bedroom and then the bathroom, brushed her teeth, washed her face, then went to the bed quietly, trying not to disturb Josh.
At the bedside her phone buzzed against her stomach again. She opened it.
Devin: see you next Tuesday
Such a fucking asshole. She set her jaw firm, growled a soft sound in her throat and mimed the act of throwing her phone to the floor to smash it to pieces. She set it on the nightstand safely, slipped out of her clothes and crawled back into bed with Josh. She rolled her back to him, shimmied rearward into the warm bed-space against his body. He stirred, and she found his arm and closed it around her.
***
Now the sex was done, the wild and stormy seas calmed, Josh was left in the placid water aftermath of the lust that had overtaken him at the Dragon. He lay in the dark, holding Kimmy against him and contemplating the business card.
Something had registered in his mind, but in the heat of the moment it had gone unchecked. He examined it now: Kimmy acted at first as though she’d never seen the card before.
What did that mean?
It made sense that Kimmy didn’t know. Devin had put it there for Josh, wasn’t that right? He’d put it there to fuck with Josh later at his whim. Was that the case? But then wouldn’t that mean Devin had indeed been in the apartment?
Or was he missing something?
He’d at first thought Devin was trolling Facebook for photos of their apartment so he could sound familiar with it. That had made a lot of sense. Because Kimmy had not cheated on him; it was impossible. But now he had to consider Devin had been here. Devin or a third party. Did Devin have mutual friends with them?
Shit: Amy.
Amy’d had an on-again off-again love-hate thing with Devin for long stretches all throughout high school. But would Amy hide a business card for Devin or help him in any way? She didn’t stay in touch with Devin since going abroad for university, or uni as she called it, at least it didn’t seem that way at the reunion. A lot of dry unimpressed glances between them, but playful-like, as though there may be something swimming just under the surface. So now he tried to recall the days up to the party. Who had come through the house? He was almost positive Amy hadn’t been here at all, even when he wasn’t here. Karina was for sure. But Karina would never help Devin in a million years.
Thoughts of accomplices was a lost cause. It wasn’t likely to be that elaborate a setup. He’d have to consider now Kimmy lied to him about Devin being here. But she didn’t have sex with him. No, that wasn’t on the table. So what, then? Why would Kimmy lie?
The job thing.
Devin had excited her with the prospect of going back to work, then ramped it up by offering her a high-paying job. Kimmy’s salary was satisfactory where she worked. It was the low end of what you might expect a lawyer of her age and talent, but she went into law to help people, and was compensated for her work in immigration in ways other than money. Did she feel guilty for being interested in money, for being interested in lawyering for the cash? That would be like her. Devin comes by to apologize. He offers her a job. She says no but thinks about it. Later finds out Devin slipped his card in the drawer, Devin one step ahead of everybody. Keeping Kimmy’s mouth shut by making her feel guilty, and all so he could fuck with Josh Waters. But fucking why? What a waste of time.
Devin fucking with him at the party made sense just because of proximity and situation, but continuing to fuck with him in the week after and going to all this effort . . .? How much fun was it to fuck with Josh Waters at the age of twenty-seven . . .? Is this successful and busy guy really playing juvenile games? . . .
What if Josh Waters wasn’t even the subject of his attention?
Shit, what if Devin just got the hots for Kimmy and the real game he was running was on Kimmy, and this nonsense he was doing with Josh was the added bonus or perhaps some trick of subterfuge, some way of keeping Josh away from the truth about Kimmy? What if Josh wasn’t even the intended target?
That made his scalp tingle at the sheer insidiousness. His heart pounded harder and he snaked arms tighter around Kimmy, kissing the point of her bare shoulder.
If this was about Kimmy, he needed to act. Confront Kimmy, confront Devin, do something . . .
A small measure of personal pride was keeping his door from fully opening. Devin had come into the tent and showed Josh his dick, said he’d fucked Kimmy, taunted him saying Josh’d asked him to do it. . . . The idea of telling Kimmy that turned his stomach, and, worse, for some reason it made him seem weak, and he hated for Kimmy to see him that way now he was grown. It was the power of the bully. All the things that had been done to him growing up had been kept to himself, too ashamed to ask for help.
Talk about poison: if Kimmy heard that Devin said Josh asked him to fuck her she wouldn’t believe it. But it would be inside her system, coursing through her architectures of knowledge and understanding, and there would be pulses of occasional doubt, lying in bed with him here at night and wondering . . . What if Josh really did ask Devin to fuck her?
Fuck this.
He pulled back the sheet, his mind wrung out and stressed. Kimmy was naked next to him. In the gray dawn light he admired his wife’s lean body, curved like the little spoon, her skin pure and satiny, her hair a tangled nest around her sleeping profile, long hands gently cupped by her cheek. She breathed softly. The sheets were pushed down further, resting at the gentle knob of her knee bone. He caressed her thigh. She didn’t stir. He gently pressed a thumb into the squashy hump of her ass cheek, watched as it sunk into her flesh. Her sex was exposed to him the way her legs were bent. The soft curves of her mound run with a narrow labia lip squiggle, a sparse thatch of her pubic hair allowing the dirty details of his wife’s sexual opening to be seen. He took a lusty chance and brushed the backs of his fingers against the protective layer of her fur, felt her heat there, his stomach pulling tight at the thought of their wonderful night together making love.
There had been something dark at work since the party. It was him who had to shoulder some blame, too. Getting wasted the way he did was irresponsible and disrespectful to Kimmy. It allowed an event to occur that wouldn’t have happened if he’d abstained from too much drink, enjoyed his wife’s company, and made sure she got to bed safe and sound at his side. The thing that had happened was terrible. Kimmy was a tough cookie and she could recover from an incident like that, but what Devin did wasn’t right. Devin Stone had tried to fuck her, of that he was sure. No wonder he slunk into Josh’s tent to gloat. Kimmy had rebuffed Devin in an awkward moment he probably wasn’t used to.
The future was going to contain less Devin Stone and more Kimmy Chang.
He covered her up, kissed her hip, then her shoulder again. When she was under the bedding, he kissed her cheek. Now she stirred. He patted her hand and she tried to squeeze his fingers but he was getting up, wanting her to stay sleeping. He stood watching to make sure she was out again, then got dressed as quiet as he could.
The only thought he would allow of Devin Stone moving forward was the image of the man between Kimmy’s legs, trying to kiss her, Kimmy pinned down, Devin’s huge cock rubbing into her leg. That was an unexpected gift from Devin Stone, probably one the bully would regret giving to him. It frightened him, sure, but it also super-charged him. Put anger in his heart, roused pride, pushed the feeling of being challenged. It put lust in him too, a weird arousal. But that arousal drove home the intense feelings of love he had for his wife. It was the gift of resolve to own his woman. Even now, in the dim morning light he could feel a growing arousal between his legs at the mere caressing of the thought Kimmy felt another man’s erection pressing into her. It made his heart pound with love for her.
The sex they had last night was pure love and care. He’d performed admirably, thank god. He was good to her, he made her happy. They’d shared. It’d been tender. Wonderful.
At the Dragon, they’d worked out the truth; Kimmy had been straightforward and honest with him. He was inspired. They’d skipped dinner so they could stay in bed and touch each other all over. He’d come three times.
Maybe that was the end of whatever badness had occurred at the party. He believed it.
Let it die.
That was the decision. Let it die, move forward.
Watch Kimmy, care for their relationship, look for trouble, leave the players alone, play the game, nurture what he had with Kimmy, support her in whatever she may be going through as she struggled to find meaning in her future; babies or work. But let it die, Josh, old boy. Don’t pump life into something bad and rotten, just be the man Kimmy needs you to be, not some whining complainer who doesn’t trust her, who cries about how mean the other boys are being to him. It was man-up time.
He snapped the waistband of his underwear, eyeing Kimmy still, made his way to the kitchen, pulling out his phone so he could block the number Devin’d texted him from.
Behind him in the bed he’d left his wife sleeping off a wonderful night of sex; naked, satisfied, sleeping. He was going to be her man. But first he needed a big breakfast because he was fucking starving.
Comments
I want Kimmy and Devin to start working together soon as well so they can have more encounters. I’d prefer Josh not want it more and more. I’d prefer Kimmy continue to lie to Josh and keep the affair going.
Chinookfan72
2020-01-13 21:56:48 +0000 UTCAnyone else really want Kimmy to start working for Devin quickly? I really hope Josh having only small clues on what is happening leads all the way to that possibility. Kimmy and Devin keep playing their games with him and he starts to actually want it more and more!!
Anjali
2020-01-13 14:43:42 +0000 UTC#6 probably covers motorcycles and tattoos.
Donkatsu
2020-01-13 12:20:36 +0000 UTCAs noted above, I do not think that the hw and cheating genres are all that separate. Let’s think about this HW/cheating thing for a minute. There HAS to be some element of cheating angst for the HW thing to work for either party. Let’s face it, why screw around if the other guy is just like the husband/bf? So KT gives us the shopping list (pick at least three). 1. Younger 2. Richer 3. Better car 4. Bigger cock 5. Better wardrobe 6. Bad boy/doesn’t care 7. Better body/takes more time for fitness 8. Willing to go where no man has gone before (thank you, Captain Kirk, another great Canadian and swordsman) A few years ago, one of the local online new outlets had a relationship columnist who used to insist that the woman (generally it was men writing after their wives had wandered) come clean about what she had actually done with the other guy(s) and why. Right out of the pages of KT it usually involved a younger guy who had more time and would do things the husband/bf would not. This column was fairly explicit, often with a follow up from hubby along the lines of “I had no idea she would do that sort of thing!” She did not feel that the detritus could be swept under the rug forever.
Donkatsu
2020-01-13 12:19:50 +0000 UTCI’ve had this kink since I was 18,I could not figure what was wrong with a man who wanted his gf,wife t have sex with another man.I had a lot of sleepless nights,but turned me on like nothing else.Like I said I just recently found it was a thing and I really don’t know what to do with it!
Tim ziegler
2020-01-13 03:09:41 +0000 UTCi’d say a hot wife story can start with cheating, but enviably the couple will have a conversation where the woman is allowed to hotwife, from there on I’d say there is no cheating. The husband/boyfriend has agreed to open pandora’s box and what comes of it comes of it. to answer another question, I agree with Glauc that you don’t have to be into hotwifing personally to enjoy KT’s stories. I have no want to be in a hotwife relationship. I relate to the bulls in these stories more so than the husband/boyfriend, but even so I have no want to be the bull for a hotwife couple...Being Devin does sound pretty fun though... I read the stories for the interactions between the wife/girlfriend and the bull, the backstory on what drives the wife/girlfriend to go down the road of cheating/hotwifing and what she is thinking along the way. Once the wife/bull relationship is formed I personally like as little written about the husband/boyfriend as possible. Finally, I also agree with Glauc’s takes on the other authors noted above. I’ve read stories from all of them and, in my opinion, KT provides far superior stories... To me the other authors write too much from the husband/boyfriend’s perspective so the encounters between the bull and wife/girlfriend are either told after the fact so they lack details or the are written from a spying husband/boyfriends so they still lack details (conversation between bull of wife/girlfriend) or they are chopped but by the internal struggle of the husband/boyfriend.. KT on the other hand gives us many encounters from either the wife’s perspective or as a fly on the wall perspective, which, to me, leads to a better story. Also KT seems to provide more insight into the wife/girlfriend’s mind than the other authors who seem to focus more on the husband/boyfriend mind solely.. Maybe it’s just the stories I’ve read too.
Chinookfan72
2020-01-13 02:48:31 +0000 UTCWell the good thing about nerds is we tend to be more loyal and think our way through things. We tend to be good lovers because we study the topic!
RCH
2020-01-13 02:33:45 +0000 UTCGlaucon, your analogy is spot on only it's paintball vs real guns. One can be hurt playing paintball and in rare cases killed. Generally it's safe for the most part. Hot wife is like paintball some pain some angst and a lot of excitement. Real combat high degree of risk of serious injury and death. Cheating high degree of hurt, lost trust, loss of loved one, divorce/financial chaos in general. I like both genres a hot wife story can always slip into a cheating story if things go out of bounds. She could fall in love, STDs, pregnancy etc. There is always danger when we play with sex. Cheating for the cheater is fun and exciting. For the cheated one it's hurt and loss. I don't want to go on one of my bio/psychological rants on why we do what we do but we are descendants of thrill seekers that survived! Cheating stories have a good deal more plot complications. Trying not to get caught is part of the thrill! getting caught is a bummer for all parties involved. I haven't figured out Josh out just yet. Will he just have the confidence to sit Kimmy down and confront her on her BS explanation? He may let it slide because he is confident in Kimmy's love for him and figure Devin is just fucking with him. Or is he so weak that he is afraid to confront the situation and possibly push her to Devin? See this is what makes this so good. The drama/excitement ratchets up because Kimmy deceived Josh! Cheater!
RCH
2020-01-13 02:28:45 +0000 UTCLMAO!!!! Paint ball books! :) I'm sure there's a sub-culture and leagues, forums, books... maybe even pros. I know I was stunned to find out there are professional Radio Control helicopter pilots, let alone the whole sub-culture based on that hobby. Hotwifing, though... safety is not guaranteed even in the most stable relationship. In our short time in the "hobby" I've read of several couples divorcing. Daria and I have had a few touchy times. I think the whole hotwife draw in books is based on the fantasy a lot of people have and don't or can't act on it . The best hotwife books exploit the notion that the wife is reluctant at first, and then succumbs. A completely male take on it. One thing's for certain, the wife is going to have sex with a guy who is everything the husband is not; maybe not right away, but eventually. Skirting cuckolding deftly, while planting the seed that cuckolding is not far off.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-13 02:26:24 +0000 UTCThat's quite admirable. Switching careers is never easy. My hat's off to you, sir! I wonder when "Tuesday" is going to come or will Kimmy make sure "Tuesday's Gone" ? Laying pipe is always a risky proposition. Devin may have to call on Miss Dig, first. Josh wouldn't want his network service interrupted (or maybe he would). Daria always calls me a nerd. Now, I guess I've proved it!
DavidnDaria
2020-01-13 02:20:34 +0000 UTCI'm not in the decision making area just and old(61) audio engineer learning a new trade. There is a good chance that Devin's network pipe may saturate Kinny's network! We're nerding out here!
RCH
2020-01-13 01:52:06 +0000 UTCMaybe I simply don’t get the hot wife draw, and it’s just on me haha.
Glaucon
2020-01-13 01:42:57 +0000 UTCSince we’re already discussing genres generally, and I know this won’t be everyone’s perspective, I’m just speaking my own, but I’ve always been a bit puzzled by the hot wife novel genre as a category of narrative, as opposed to cheating narratives which seem relatively rarer. To be clear, I understand the activity in real life as a safe, consensual, honest way to explore certain infidelity-adjacent feelings and scenes while protecting the integrity and trust of a relationship. But as an analogy, paintball is a safe and sane way to explore combat-adjacent scenarios that to pursue in real life would be crazy, but there’s not a whole subgenre of paintball books on Amazon, it’s the actual unsafe combat stories that people want to read about. Yet the same isn’t true of infidelity erotica. Anyway just trying to put into words a certain confusion I have :P.
Glaucon
2020-01-13 01:35:49 +0000 UTCRed, I thought Visiting Space Aliens was a viable option! :) I just hope your work is staying as far away from ACI as you can get. I've seen ACI implementations work, but I've seen more become major pains in the ass. For firewalls, believe it or not--and this is way against industry trends--I'm not a huge fan of Palo Alto, and Check Point seems to be playing catch up, I know 80.40 is supposed to fix a lot of things, but I'll believe it when hear it does. I really like the newer Fortinet offerings and that's going WAY against the grain. It all depends on what your business wants to do now and in the next five years, though. As far as LONG distances, WIDER bandwidth, and high VOLUMES of traffic go, The right PIPE makes a world of difference and makes sure your network doesn't get SATURATED. It's important to make sure INTRUSION is prevented.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-13 00:39:49 +0000 UTCGlaucon, doesn’t a good hot wife tale almost invariably involve at least a little cheating? After all, the “is she or isn’t she” part is central to the husband’s frisson.
Donkatsu
2020-01-13 00:31:11 +0000 UTCFor me, if it happened exactly the way it was written, and I was me, as Josh, Devin would be looking for new dick. I'm an easy going guy and don't like physical violence at all, but what happened in the tent would have ended much differently. Logically, I can understand the cuckold mentality, but emotionally? I'm not even close and doubt I will ever understand. Cheating? If you believe in honesty, and really love your wife, cheating is devastating. Denial is a huge part of set of emotions surrounding being part of such a thing. You keep wondering why and how? Knowing you're right and not wanting to be right, you grasp at anything that reinforces the latter. All the while knowing you're wrong.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-12 20:12:23 +0000 UTCI was hoping for Visiting Space Aliens! We're deep in network restructuring at work right now. All new network from the ground up, new switches, firewalls and 10Gb-40Gb fiber trunks. Need fiber due to the LONG distances and WIDER bandwidth for the VOLUME of traffic.
RCH
2020-01-12 20:02:40 +0000 UTC"Annie's Affair" is more of an affair. As Wess says, Mccurran writes the diary entries. It's good. Given our past, I didn't think we'd like books about affairs. We do, though.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-12 20:00:46 +0000 UTCI guess we're retired. I'm 34 and my wife is 31 (will turn 32 this week). We sold our network security company (which I started before I met my wife) about six years ago, and haven't looked back. We do travel a lot. It's funny you mentioned Gypsies. A friend on OHW keeps saying we live a Gypsies life at times.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-12 19:40:14 +0000 UTCI've read a McCurran, too. Not quite for me. I'm just picky :P.
Glaucon
2020-01-12 17:35:53 +0000 UTCDnD maybe this is too personal but I'll ask anyway. You two seem to be on the road a good deal of the time. Truckers? Retired? Traveling Medicine Show? Gypsies? Visiting Space Aliens?
RCH
2020-01-12 16:48:17 +0000 UTCfor me it would have ended in the tent, I would have fought Devin right there..Not for him sleeping or not with Kimmy (that’s Kimmy’s fault), but for trying to get me to grab his dick... He might have beat my ass, but once that confrontation is over I would confront Kimmy immediately too about what Devin told me in the tent. Makes for a quick story though.
Chinookfan72
2020-01-12 09:15:31 +0000 UTCAgree with DnD. Glaucs might like Annie's Affair. McCurran writes the diary for a cheating wife and Wright does a nice job with the husband's agonizing sneak peaks at the diary. He reads exactly what his wife was up to and how much she can't resist this other guy. I really liked it. Ending not great but still good. Lots of cheating. Maybe I am into the cheating thing more than I thought.
Wess
2020-01-12 02:01:30 +0000 UTCYou mean Ben Boswell, right? I tried two of their cheating books, but neither of them worked for me.
Glaucon
2020-01-12 00:15:36 +0000 UTCYou ever read Kenny Wright's and Ben Bosworth's books on cheating wives? Both are completely different, one is a three-person perspective with the female part written by Kirsten Mccurran. I will say that cheating wives can break you or make you. I'm happy to be in the latter camp. As far hotwives go, seeing your wife being a completely sexual being--giving up all preconceived notions of propriety and societal expectations--from my perspective is a great thing. I don't know if Josh is going to see his wife that way, but I'm willing to bet someone will. Wouldn't it be a kick--in a cool way--that nothing further happens between Kimmy and Devin? One of the things you get when you read these stories is you know the wife is gonna get boned. What a trip if the wife doesn't get boned! I mean going right up to the point and then shutting things down like Sukie did in the Ferrari--just no more after that.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-11 23:52:07 +0000 UTCHotwife or cheating Josh still has to deal with both!
Tim ziegler
2020-01-11 22:19:27 +0000 UTCI don't think it's a necessity to be into hotwife stuff specifically to enjoy KT books - I'm not a big fan of hotwife lit as a genre, personally. More here for the cheating :P.
Glaucon
2020-01-11 18:28:10 +0000 UTCWhy else would you be here?😎
Donkatsu
2020-01-11 18:07:19 +0000 UTCI'm schizo about this. In reality I think I would do some sexy spying and then confront her. Hopefully she would be worried, contrite and relieved that I wasn't leaving her. After that I would be fine with her continuing her affair but I would need to know everything. I don't think I would worry that she would choose the jerk over me. I would trust her. Bully boy would be the one getting played. My alter ego would react very differently. I would plant mics and cameras and try to record her phone contacts. Alter ego would store up a lot of nasty footage and information leading up to an ambush confrontation with Kimmy before leaving her. For some reason that is weirdly satisfying...except I would never do that, I don't think. I like the hotwife thing.
Wess
2020-01-11 17:52:29 +0000 UTCGroup question if you were Josh how would you handle cheating Kimmy,and ass Devin?
Tim ziegler
2020-01-11 17:28:32 +0000 UTCLOL, James! Na, it was early and truthfully, not getting 'straight edge' is entirely on me, sir.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-10 22:20:30 +0000 UTCLol, I was just trying to be funny, straight edge was (is still?) a punk movement which was against all the trappings of typical punk culture, such as drinking, drugging, etc. Patreon must have not liked that I liked your comment about tequila, so they stopped me from endorsing it. It's not about how early it is, its about how lame I am that you didn't understand what I was saying, lol.
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-10 11:50:03 +0000 UTCPatreon has been acting weird, as you've read, the last few days... straight edge? It's early, I'm slow, James.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-10 10:39:52 +0000 UTCfor some reason I can't like your comment, it keeps taking it away. Patreon must be straight edge ...
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-10 02:42:25 +0000 UTCYou would say that ... ... lol
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-10 02:04:47 +0000 UTCDevil's water could also be tequila... Just sayin'. :) We love tequila!
DavidnDaria
2020-01-10 00:51:49 +0000 UTCFor us, the most important thing in communicating is honesty. Total, complete, unfiltered honesty. In the past, I was the one with the communication problem. Not anymore.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-10 00:50:07 +0000 UTCDevil in the Water is such a great title for this type of series, I know it's been months since this observation might be fresh and I'm sure its already been commented on, but I finally looked up 'devil's water' in google and felt that unique feeling that KT is good at, where I'm intellectually turned on, lol. It's moments like when I'm digging in the weeds of her stories and I am able to find more gems that's the reason why I am glad to be able to financially support this author. Though the title of the series is probably not the best example of KT's attention to detail ...
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-09 21:46:11 +0000 UTCThe secret of success in swinging, sharing, hotwife etc is communication. Making sure you are on the same page with your partner. We have experienced the full range and had mostly good experiences.
RCH
2020-01-09 19:34:27 +0000 UTCVoluminous posting is prohibited. The sheer volume of such posts is much too taxing for the servers to handle! After all, they're running on 386 processors with 64k memory! Give them a break! :) Seriously, I wonder about the size limit? usually there's a counter in the posting window that shows users. I doubt it's being censored and frankly, the fact that no notification is sent leads one to believe it's anomalous, or an undocumented limitation. Maybe tonight after we've stopped, I'll post something with some buzwords to see if it trips some automatic triggers.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-09 18:41:29 +0000 UTCI don't think it's any kinda content censorship. I also edited my post several times too. It was long, wide in scope and very Voluminous which may have had something to do with it. I think I'll start composing in word first then copy and paste the post. I suspect that it's a Patreon form/blog defect/limitation.
RCH
2020-01-09 14:35:45 +0000 UTCDaria is a fit one!
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-09 03:12:09 +0000 UTCInteresting. Discovered mine around 40 after drunken hot tub party. Serious adrenaline rush the next morning as what really happened was revealed. It put a spark in us in and out of bed. Each to their own but all fun for us.
Wess
2020-01-09 00:13:34 +0000 UTCThis is disturbing. I've had another post disappear. It was similar to the one I posted earlier which disappeared. Thing is, I edited it several times, and I replied to it and then added more as a bit of an explanation. It had story relevant content which explained how I relate to Josh. Strange things are afoot at the Circle KT. Is this Patreon being moderated by someone? I think it's length, but the second, explanatory post was much smaller and it's gone, too. Fun stuff. Anyway, back to the speculation...
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 21:51:34 +0000 UTCI have never been in this life style but I do have the wife sharing kink I’d guess you would call it started senior year in high school,with gf soon to be wife of 47 years.Had no idea what it was freaked me out just found out it was a thing about 2years ago after finding one of these books.So at 66 just learning.
Tim ziegler
2020-01-08 20:41:43 +0000 UTCWe know Amy hooked up with Devin in hs, right? Could she have lured Kimmy in with stories of his size and skill? Maybe she helped Devin put Kimmy in a compromising position and then conveniently left them alone at the reunion? Probably not, but Amy didn't show Josh any love in their little talk. She would make a good accomplice for Devin.
Wess
2020-01-08 20:34:03 +0000 UTCI seen DavidnDaria email a couple hour later it was gone!
Tim ziegler
2020-01-08 20:24:33 +0000 UTCI agree this a cheating story,it’s going to be hard on Josh,my point is he needs to fight back and win few victories along the way.
Tim ziegler
2020-01-08 20:21:04 +0000 UTCOne particular thing that got to me was Kimmy and nail polish. Other than being attacked at the door when I got home from a short trip (early on, that was one sign I interpretted way wrong--even made a mistake in research), it was subtle things like new nail polish that really started to add up. Daria never liked French tipped nails--even to the extreme by saying they were slutty--then one day she shows up with her nails that way. It's little things like that which add up and in the end were screams to me. It's like she consciously wanted to be caught, but really didn't. BTW, Daria knows I'm writing all this and approves. So, don't think I'm betraying her in any way.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 19:56:27 +0000 UTCHere's what gets me about this story so far: Cheating. I think because it's being delivered piecemeal, and that I relate to Josh in ways that gets to me. Cheating is difficult to recover from. EXTREMELY difficult if you care and you want to recover properly. So far, KT's portrayal of Josh being in full on denial after being presented with enough damning evidence is exactly what I went through. I knew in my soul what was going on, but because things--other than sex--were completely normal, I didn't want to believe what I knew was true. Where it differs is this: I just wanted my wife to be honest with me--to trust me. Ultimately, she did trust me, but not before I put her in a situation where she could not deny things. Confrontation in these situations may work for some, but it wouldn't have worked for us--Daria confirmed it to me. So, this why I feel for Josh. KT has portrayed Josh as not weak--to me-- but horribly confused and in denial. His wanting to simply put away what he knows is true is exactly what I went through. I don't wish this on anyone. It takes a lot of work to recover from infidelity. Even more to evolve into a hotwife/stag couple. Initially, that wasn't my idea, but after we sold our business, it was OUR idea. This is why this story is difficult for me. We do like reading cheating wife stories. Other well known authors have written great stories about cheating. We trust KT in this endeavor. Nobody knows which way this is going to go and that's great--I would never want HEA when it's not appropriate. So, the point of this post is this: HEA can and does happen. We live it daily.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 19:37:39 +0000 UTCI didn't know what happened to mine, either. When I got your reply notification and saw how long it was, it was pretty clear that length is a likely constraint.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 19:23:53 +0000 UTCLOL! Thanks! That's actually my wife... well, her torso. :) I had another one I put up for maybe five minutes, but it was shot down by Daria.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 19:21:58 +0000 UTCDnD I didn't know what was happen so I through out a quick new message as a test. I was able to post a edited shorter post.
RCH
2020-01-08 15:44:20 +0000 UTCThumbs up on the replaced icon image, DnD! The toe was troubling me lol :P
Glaucon
2020-01-08 15:33:48 +0000 UTCI think that’s fair and true for almost all of KT’s other books, which to one degree or another involve consensual hotwife scenarios. But I think this particular book is importantly distinct, in that this is about cheating, which to my lights as a narrative is fundamentally different. I think the treatment of the husband by necessity needs to be pretty bad. He’s being cheated on!
Glaucon
2020-01-08 15:28:45 +0000 UTCI got ur reply, if that helps. And I add that my thoughts are "wishful thinking" and KT is doing just AMAZING without my help! :)
BNR
2020-01-08 15:11:31 +0000 UTCThere are a number of us that have lived this lifestyle ether as swingers, hotwife/cuckold relationships. I can't speak for KT background but I know she(assumed) is good at spinning tales of hotwifery(is that a word?). But good authors do research and that takes many forms. One form can be interviewing people. This form and the other blog gives her a insight into what people think of and what tickles her audiences collective interests. If KT stated writing stories involving scatological, bunnies and flamenco dancing she would loose most of us. It's possible that she may find an audience for that. So the purpose of the feed back is to keep thing interesting and fresh, but also keep things between the rails. The feedback on "A Week On the Big Snake" was a bit negative on how the husband was treated. I enjoyed it and would like to see a continuation of that story. Possibly after a recovery period the two of them reflect on the thrilling aspect of what happened on the river. As people we tend to forget the bad and remember the good. Now if KT does write a continuation of Big Snake may be it is because she was inspired by this message! Now it possible that my speculating that any substantial intercourse took place between Devin and Kimmy was not likely because Kimmy would have been sore still from the encounter. Now did that change the plot of the story? I...II don't think so! The reason I was under that impression was because of the evidence that KT presented in book1. Partial insertion of his voluminous penis is an attempt at intercourse and is sex kinda. It's enough for Kimmy to feel as if she has to lie about it to Josh. The details we have of that encounter seem that some force was involved. He had her arms pined and he was on top of her and he started kissing her. We don't quite know how he managed to get his penis out and in Kimmy.
RCH
2020-01-08 15:08:19 +0000 UTCRed, The same thing happened to me the other day. I got your long post in E-mail, so I know what you wrote. Replying to it would do no good, but I will respond by writing I understand what you're saying--this is cheating. I don't think it's anything KT is doing and I don't believe for one instant that KT would sensor us. Rather, I believe it's the system and the length of messages. Mine was pretty long, so was yours. Shame, too. I bared a lot in my post, and your was very well thought out, as well. One thing: I'm not a cuckold (in the new, popular sense), I'm a stag if a label must be used. Right now, we're in Texas, in our motor home enjoying each other and reconnecting. Believe it or not, KT's patreon and her blog are great places to 'come clean'.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-08 15:07:06 +0000 UTCWell I was able to post a completely new post okay so that must be it.
RCH
2020-01-08 14:56:36 +0000 UTCI have to agree it's fun to have a corrupting influence on the innocent wife. Amy's response isn't helping Kimmy fight off Devin influence. Again I've said it here before we still are in the dark on all the events at the party. Kimmy has only let us know that she was kissed by Devin and he pinned her arms as he lay atop her. Somehow the next thing that happen is she has his dick in her! Okay, so there is a gap before kissing how did this get to this point in the first place. Arguing about politics while sitting on the lawn with Amy and Devin. Amy leaves Kimmy alone with Devin, was there a setup? Don't know Amy may have fanned the flames previously and did she leave to make an opportunity for something to happen? Kimmy has also left out how she went from having Devin on top pinning her arms and kiss her. Next he has managed to insert himself partially in her. The only hint is she chastises herself for not resisting. Some preparatory action must of happen leading up to the insertion. I think this is what Kimmy regrets not resisting. We see the same behavior in the apartment a weak if any resistance. Amy at the very minimum has done nothing to discourage Kimmy. We'll see where this goes...
RCH
2020-01-08 14:48:05 +0000 UTCI've had some trouble in the past... I think sometimes if you try posting the same message multiple times the system thinks it's an error or duplicate or something. Maybe try changing your post slightly by adding or removing a sentence - that's worked for me.
Glaucon
2020-01-08 03:53:18 +0000 UTCVery strange I've tried posting twice today and they've disappeared? Did I offend some rule?
RCH
2020-01-08 03:49:32 +0000 UTCI have a thing! Not related to this chapter specifically, but I think it warrants a look. (Sorry if this has already come up, I'm new to this Patreon) Amy, is she helping? I don't think she is. At least I don't think she is helping to "defuse" the Devon thing. Is she an agent for good or evil? Evil is more fun so i have to vote Evil! The line that I think shows her side is [Amy moaned with unmistakable lechery. “Oh, Kimmy, Kimmy . . . tell me everything"] I think this shows her pleasure in the fact that the Devon situation might be worst. And I hope that is true! I kind of want her to be a little "Chelsey" in this story! The devil on her shoulder that makes the story more fun fore us!
BNR
2020-01-08 03:19:35 +0000 UTCOne thing that still strikes me as odd though along these lines is Devin's insistence that Josh asked him to do all this - even if Josh did in fact drunkenly ask for this why does Devin keep bringing it up? It would enhance Devin's sense of power if he just projected that he's messing with Kimmy purely because he wants to, rather than playing a role in someone else's fantasy, right?
Glaucon
2020-01-08 03:13:52 +0000 UTCOne area that’s gone largely unexamined so far is Josh’s (and Kimmy’s for that matter) past relationship with Devin. What exactly is their history (other than bad)? There's hints in the first chapter, referring to Josh's "lifetime of acquiescence" but it doesn't go into details. What has he done to Josh? I think that informs everything and right now it’s a big question mark. Humiliations in high school would be deeply etched in Josh and would make him feel any echoing humiliation now more keenly and profoundly.
Glaucon
2020-01-08 02:47:28 +0000 UTCI agree with you, I think all that is exactly what Devin wants.
Glaucon
2020-01-08 02:41:53 +0000 UTCPower. Power over Josh in just about every way he can flex that power. Sexual superiority, Wealth, knowledge about what really happened (just because he knows what happened doesn't mean that Devon is telling any truths) and liberty to contribute as much or as little to the whole scenario. And I would LOVE it if Kimmy went to work for Devon. MORE POWER! :)
BNR
2020-01-08 02:22:18 +0000 UTCWoooooo! That makes me happy - I'm loving this story and it feels like it really has legs!
Glaucon
2020-01-07 19:15:29 +0000 UTCDefinitely not a book end at that point! Too early, and everything seems fine and settled. I want to leave a book with unanswered questions. I think we're about a third of the way into the second book here.
KT Morrison
2020-01-07 18:11:44 +0000 UTCIt's interesting to speculate as to some small influence the comments might have but in the end KT unleashed/unrestrained is what I want. She knows her characters and what dark things they might hide. That’s what keeps me reading.
Wess
2020-01-07 01:00:31 +0000 UTCLol what do you think I've been trying to do :P
Glaucon
2020-01-07 00:47:41 +0000 UTCGlaucon, I think it’s pretty cool that this might be happening. Maybe one of us should plant a ‘seed’ and see if it sprouts.
TF
2020-01-07 00:39:13 +0000 UTCThat makes sense, there's certainly deficiencies in their trust of one another. I just don't think they trust each other the LEAST compared to the other two major relationships in the book, Josh-Devin and Devin-Kimmy.
Glaucon
2020-01-06 21:57:47 +0000 UTCYes - but that could mean a lot of different things. My expectation at the outset was that as per the Patreon home page, sometimes we might have a vote between a handful of options (like the poll about Josh's next action awhile back). I had some reservations about that because I wouldn't want a choice to undermine the best narrative path in KT's lights (for example I sometimes think readers might want something that undermines a story). On the other hand, what I THINK I might be seeing here is more reactive, chapter-by-chapter stuff that seems to respond to what we’re discussing, like discussions about how Josh would know a text is from Devin and then the next chapter laying out Josh’s deduction, or complaints about Josh’s choices being followed by Josh trying to instill increased resolve in himself. I just wonder if these more slight aspects are imagination or not. Also I don’t recall who exactly but there was a thought a while back speculating that Kimmy and Devin almost hooked up at the reunion but were only prevented because Kimmy was too tight for his huge size (which is apparently what turned out to have happened).
Glaucon
2020-01-06 21:55:54 +0000 UTCWhat I meant by trust is projecting a bit, Glaucon. It's projecting what Daria and I value in each other and it's absolute. It has to be. With Josh and Kimmy, they don't trust each other enough to tell each other what they think and feel. If they did, they could face Devin head-on as a team. They don't trust each other enough to do that, so what's left is each of them relying on what they know. Josh, by putting it behind him and Kimmy... well, telling half truths (really, though half-truths are lies by omission in my book). They're disconnected because they don't have that kind of trust in this part of the story. They think they're connected, but each is living in very different realities, even though at the surface, it appears not. Yet, they haven't had to face such issues before--or so we think--so it's unfamiliar territory for both. Does that make more sense?
DavidnDaria
2020-01-06 21:42:46 +0000 UTCWe're supposed to be able to shape the story somewhat, no? Frankly, I think that's incredible.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-06 21:34:11 +0000 UTCI've noticed a few things in these chapters that seem to be responses directly to things we've discussed in the comments... just my imagination?
Glaucon
2020-01-06 19:33:10 +0000 UTCI don’t think Kimmy and Josh trust each other “the least,” so much as they only trust each other 90% and that deficiency is way more noticeable than the 20% or so they trust Devin. I don’t think either of them trust Devin much at all, and Josh for example only puts credit in anything Devin says when he can’t conceive of any way for Devin to know something otherwise. Kimmy in this chapter explicitly rejects everything Devin's said to her up to this point as "bullshit." Josh multiple times thinks about how it’s straight up impossible that Kimmy is actually cheating – he trusts her not to completely betray him, but he also is constantly confronted with flaws in her story (mostly provided by Devin) so he picks and picks at her story and Devin’s like a scab. I don’t think Kimmy doesn’t trust Josh with the truth, so much as she’s terrified of her own actions and of hurting Josh or having to confront what she did/didn’t do. She would rather deny what happened than face the reality of it and make it real by speaking it into the world.
Glaucon
2020-01-06 19:18:15 +0000 UTCIt did have a note of finality to it, didn't it?
DavidnDaria
2020-01-06 19:09:48 +0000 UTCI wrote a whole long thing in the last chapter that explained -- at least from my experience and perpective--how Josh might be reacting to everything he's being presented. It's gone, I don't know if I incorrectely edited it and deleted it, or what. I just want to write here that even though this is a story, well thought out, and extremely well written, it's very real in terms of what a spouse might feel. Josh is starting to get it. He's starting to put things together given Kimmy's explanations. He's very genuine in wanting to put it behind him--it's the normal, rational thing to do when confronted with the unbelievable or unthinkable. Let sleeping dogs (bitches?) lie. The whole time we were reading the text exchange between Kimmy and Devin, we were thinking, "What if Devin tells Kimmy Josh knows the card was planted?" Something like that blows this up big time. This whole story comes down to trust. Nobody trusts anyone, yet. The two people who should trust each other more than anyone, trust each other least. Parts of this story are very real to me (Dave) and bother me. I think that's why I wrote what I wrote earlier that is now gone--for whatever reason. I wouldn't wish something like this to happen to anyone, but having written that and knowing this is a story, shit that's happening is going to get worse.
DavidnDaria
2020-01-06 18:56:44 +0000 UTCStill having trouble liking 3 of the 4 characters,but at least Josh realization he has to man up to Kimmy and Devin.
Tim ziegler
2020-01-06 05:09:37 +0000 UTCtrue.. I’m not sure what the word count for the series is at now, but perhaps this becomes end of book 1 as it put a bow on the “build up” portion of the story. Otherwise, you are correct book 2 would be too tame.
Chinookfan72
2020-01-06 05:06:50 +0000 UTCI had a similar feeling about this chapter, it feels like the period at the end of a sentence... On the other hand, for a book in an erotic series book 2 would come out relatively tame as a whole if it ended here. Not saying it couldn't end here, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some additional segment or stinger to undermine our protagonists' confidence.
Glaucon
2020-01-06 05:00:29 +0000 UTCI wonder if this is the last chapter of the second book? It seems that way to me...Everything has been reset for the siege of Kimmy to commence on Tuesday. Since KT went the route of not much happening at the reunion, I’m glad the reveal was short and to the point.
Chinookfan72
2020-01-06 04:53:51 +0000 UTCI love Kimmy's layers. Seeing her husband as her adversary? Someone she must outwit? And then using her love to rationalize her subterfuge? I think Kimmy is smart and maybe a little bored. A taste of Devin has made her all tingly. I'm dying to see how much she will risk her love of Josh for the passion and lust Devin inspires.
Wess
2020-01-06 04:01:41 +0000 UTCThe Fox and the Dragon Aka the Kimmy and the Devin This chapter is really interesting to me in the way it resets the board, both of our protagonists convincing themselves in parallel that they see through Devin and can simply go back to life as normal. Kimmy’s superego restating her values and life goals to maintain her happy marriage with Josh, clearly overconfident in her upcoming battle with her own id when Devin inevitably invades (and conquers) her life again. Note how even after she tells Devin to “stay out of her life” she can’t resist waiting to see his response. I’d imagine at least one more solo session might be in store for Kimmy before next Tuesday (maybe Josh catches her and starts to wonder?). We know Kimmy’s into Devin’s …ahem… four times to five times Josh “volume.” She’s thought it herself. Would Devin send her a pic of his enormous dick? He’s certainly cocky enough (sry lol). She didn’t block his number… It would be dirty as hell for her to be unable to resist fixating on it, even as she tries to wrestle with her own arousal. We seem to have learned what happened at the party, and as some of us suspected it appears to be much less than it could have been, and less than Devin has claimed. Personally, I love this choice. It makes a great progression. It’s easy to buy Kimmy’s heated slip-up at the reunion given what we know of the character, and we saw her larger transgression in the apartment hallway slowly ramping things up. It’s the tease that makes the pay off work! I’d also like to give credit to the hottest passage in this chapter: “Before they were interrupted on Tiffany’s grass, Devin had got his cock inside her. Not quite, but almost. Her tightness fought his huge size. It was cheating. Kind of.” Devin’s so huge that the only reason Kimmy didn’t fully break her vows to Josh was not any active resistance on her part so much as her defenseless body physically struggling with his dominating size. This all sets the stage very well for gradual escalation between Kimmy and Devin. There’s really only been oblique teasing between them up to this point. There’s still great opportunity for Kimmy’s cockshock when she’s finally confronted face to face with more massive meat than she can handle. That’s what I’m here for, the birth of Kimmy “Size Queen” Chang! lol
Glaucon
2020-01-06 02:31:16 +0000 UTCIn other words, what exactly does he want out of Josh? To what degree is he doing this specifically out of sadism and enjoyment of mocking/hurting Josh? He certainly isn't being honest or clear about that, whatever it is. If he ONLY wanted to fuck Kimmy, there’s no reason for him to involve Josh at all.
Glaucon
2020-01-05 20:16:38 +0000 UTCHaha that's good to know. To me it’s not about whether or not someone can handle it - maybe it's the Canadian in me I just don't want the things I say to make anyone feel negatively even a little, especially here where ppl are just trying to have fun :). I want to avoid any tone that can naturally turn discussions antagonistic. We can agree to disagree – I don’t think Devin is 100% honest about what he wants, to Kimmy or Josh (though they mostly see through him) – claiming that he wants Kimmy to blossom professionally, casting himself as someone who just wants the best for her, to give her what she wants, that doesn’t really ring true to me given what we know about him. He’s also not honest to Josh about what he wants from Josh/why he keeps bugging Josh about all this stuff, insofar as he hasn’t really given any reason that could be taken halfway serious. It’s also worth noting that Devin is the one of these three we know essentially nothing about internally.
Glaucon
2020-01-05 20:13:10 +0000 UTCBut Devin has been pretty honest with both Josh and Kimmy about what he wants out of this triplet. That is not to say he is not a lying, manipulative crapweasel (sorry, KT, I know you love all your creations, even the bad boys), but it is all in the purpose of a clearly stated end. Both Josh and Kimmy are lying to themselves about what they actually want and to each other as well. As for tone, Glaucs, I think I can handle it, I published a blog on “serious” issues for a number of years. You’d have to become a lot more insulting, sarcastic, and biting before I would even notice that something was off.
Donkatsu
2020-01-05 19:31:45 +0000 UTCI would disagree with that - Kimmy even calls him on it - he tells Kimmy he wants to come over to apologize, but obviously his main goal was sex. He claims the business card was for her to have his number and implies it's for the employment offer (we know it was to taunt Josh). Kimmy in this chapter also dissects the bullshit ways he talks up the "way she's matured"/skills basically as a pickup artist tactic. Not to mention the implication to Josh at the beginning that he's doing it "because Josh asked him to" which even if by some twist of logic ends up being true "from a certain point of view" is a disingenuous representation of Devin just doing what he wants to do and putting the blame on Josh. It's unclear how much he even wants her to work for him from a purely business perspective vs. just getting off on holding employment power over her. (I edited this for tone – I don’t mean to sound confrontational (tone is tricky online!) just sharing personal opinion based on the text :P)
Glaucon
2020-01-05 17:25:10 +0000 UTCBut Devin is the only one of the three who is honest about what he wants from this situation.
Donkatsu
2020-01-05 17:04:35 +0000 UTCWell done, KT! The juxtaposition of Kimmy’s vs Josh’s thoughts is very effective. The two of them may be wandering down dangerous (to their marriage) pathways but their reasoning is completely persuasive. Kimmy, however, wants to have her cake and eat it…amazing how often the human mind can embrace the impossible as a way out of a jam. To me Josh ends up in a much better place in his mind…his trust in Kimmy is a strength and that’s where he puts his chips. A weakness is his fear that she will think the less of him if he reveals Devin’s bullying. It gives Devin another edge to work. The resolve of both is going to be tested…Tuesday is coming!
TF
2020-01-05 16:50:13 +0000 UTCWhat tangled webs... Well I think if the whole truth had been told the two of them would be able to win against Devin. Now with Kimmy's unintentional help he has managed to divide Josh and Kimmy. If Kimmy had come clean with the whole truth Josh would of felt hurt but he would have rallied to her side to defeat Devin. Now he has to be asking is Kimmy on my team or Devin's? This is going to get more interesting! Love it KT you're doing it again, and it hurts so good!
RCH
2020-01-05 16:33:50 +0000 UTCDevin truthful? He's probably the most deceitful one imo - he's lying about his card to Kimmy to keep all of his interactions with Josh concealed from her. Also based on revelations in this chapter, Devin's chapter one claim to Josh that he and Kimmy fucked twice and he got his massive cock "balls deep" doesn't seem entirely accurate (also, Devin claimed they were interrupted in the bathroom, but here it's Kimmy remembering it on the grass - is that something? possible mistake, or Devin unnecessarily lying to make the hookup seem more planned/consented to?) More later when I have a moment...
Glaucon
2020-01-05 15:39:56 +0000 UTCHa ha! What a situation, when Devin is the only only truthful (sort of) one in the bunch - deception and delusion having overtaken the loving couple.
Donkatsu
2020-01-05 15:12:41 +0000 UTCThis story is epic, KT! I love the subtlety of the reveal about what happened in the reunion. It's a truly fantastic skill to integrate nuggets of important detail in stride within a story, KT is a smooth operator. Just like Kimmy is. In this part we get Kimmy's rationale for acting the way she is, she is trusting her ability to overcome her lust and trust the rage in her gut for Devin and her inner strength to put an end to this. No need for hubby to know, this will all be over shortly ... ... I'd be alright if Devin hired Kimmy, lol!
JamesIsAsleep
2020-01-05 03:13:19 +0000 UTC