MAG 177 - Wonderland
Added 2020-09-02 15:00:04 +0000 UTCCase ########-17
An examination of mental health care.
Audio recorded by the Archivist, in situ.
Content warnings:
- Arguments
- Relationship conflict
- Second-person Point-Of-View statement
- Hospitals / Mental institutions
- Mental illness
- Gaslighting
- Mental health abuse
- Medical / Therapeutic malpractice
- Victim blaming
- Diminution / belittling language
- Name invalidation
- Involuntary commitment
- Medication (inc involuntary medication)
- Suicidal ideation (implied)
- Psychosis / unreality
- Paranoia
- Explicit language
- Threats
- Body horror
- Avoidance of facts
- Mentions of: death, police brutality, gore
- SFX: screaming, high pitched tones, discordant music, medication, violence
Thanks to this week's Patrons: Alyssa Rozendaal, heroei, Alexandra DeCarlo, Ruu Weist, Halogen, Jill Flansburg, Peter Lukas' life insurance policy, Taka, Inna Nytochka, Meg Allen, Kamilla Kavmark, Vortex Eclipse, winnfour, Sandra Roorda, Emily, Hila SketchCat Shats, Melanie, Sebrina McCoy, Bee Elderly, Adrian Serrano, evelina, Sloane, Alex James, Kit Lines, PineapplePrincess, a creature built of gears and silver, Callie L Tomlinson, Power Loader, Carolyn McKenna, Frankie Kavakich, Knighthawk, Lex Adams, Grey Aster, Dan Hayes, Jonathan Björklund, Chaotica, Tristan Tinder, Danni Jager, Sydney Bell, Jessica Mattiace, Maya Manzonelli, lionheart091, Murdo Homewood, AJ Waitkus, Eliza & Gray, erlkonigin, grippingTraverse, Kyra Marie Maginity, Finn Catterall, Sonja Hansen
Edited this week by Nico Vettese, Elizabeth Moffatt, Brock Winstead & Alexander J Newall
Written by Jonathan Sims and directed by Alexander J Newall
Produced by Lowri Ann Davies
Performances:
- "Martin Blackwood" - Alexander J. Newall
- "The Archivist" - Jonathan Sims
- "Basira Hussain" - Frank Voss
- "Helen" - Imogen Harris
Sound effects this week by hja, RoooDyDoooDy, BranRainey, skowm001, edgardomoreno, dansotak, shark510, straget, leonelmail, Nanakisan, Marth8880, bmusic92, BillsFilms, ittou, AlbertCoetser, youtube.com/user/freeAudiosounds, sangtao, sagetyrtle, ienba, j1987, SMuntsinger, Benboncan, TheFilmLook, neilsher, altfuture, Eneasz, yottasounds, SpliceSound, avakas, conleec, cognito perceptu, cmusounddesign, tim.kahn, alienistcog, gropkcor, kyles, karinalarasart, Lydmakeren & previously credited artists via freesound.org
Music: Blue Sky by Quincas Moreira from Youtube Audio Library
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Comments
I do still wonder if he actually went around the rooms talking to patients, if he was just talking and only we hear the sound effects, or if he was somehow making them / they manifested. Either way, definitely extra weird for Basira.
Rad Lad Robin
2025-05-01 11:56:25 +0000 UTCThe visceral reaction I had of feeling helpless and trapped hit so hard I love it when episodes make me feel things but hoo boy did this make me feel so many things
The One of Many Voices
2024-12-09 16:58:54 +0000 UTCboy, glad I'm medicated or some of that might have hurt my feelings XD
Rurrie
2024-11-13 14:00:13 +0000 UTC"He needs to make a statement." "Is that like... a euphemism?" gods I've missed you, Basira XD
Rurrie
2024-11-13 13:50:39 +0000 UTCI adore this unrepentantly evil Hellen, and she creeps me out so bad.
Grace 'Gengar' Soria
2024-05-05 20:03:18 +0000 UTCHoly shit. This one got to me like very few others
Dan
2021-11-03 20:00:26 +0000 UTCAdded to my list of episodes to not listen to while not doing well, double underlined. As it is, am in a good enough place to appreciate it instead - is it only avatars Jon can destroy, because disintegrating Dr David would be very satisfying.
Fitzlet
2020-09-04 21:20:50 +0000 UTCI just want to say, the one thing Jon says the most in this entire series so far is "Martin". The beginning of this episode has proved my point.
Another_Maxx
2020-09-03 20:26:38 +0000 UTCJust once I want Helen to say, "Watch it , Buster!"
Cher Carlisle
2020-09-03 18:28:01 +0000 UTCThis was so gooood
Aline Macambira
2020-09-03 17:22:35 +0000 UTCHoly shit, that was an amazing sphere of the spiral. Chilling.
Rebecca Dupont
2020-09-03 17:06:22 +0000 UTCGreat episode! The acting is sooo good! 👏👏👏💖💖💖
CrazyChopstick
2020-09-03 17:02:16 +0000 UTCThis was intense. I liked the entire inverted way this story was told and absolutely understand why Basira was freaked out. I know it's wrong, but I love when Helen's on and I'm really going to miss her when the Archivist destroys her. But Martin's right, she's starting to get a bit more cocky in these later episodes. Great work, I missed this!
Heather MacKenzie
2020-09-03 16:01:56 +0000 UTCSuper cool ep!!
Isabelle
2020-09-03 14:28:18 +0000 UTCI have Issues with the whole 'mentally healthy ppl trapped in mental hospitals' horror trope, so to see it inverted was really refreshing and super cool. Love Helen, love the pre-statement bit, love Martin and Basira complaining together, love the Martin/Jon moment, and I think this is probably the best Frank's voice acting has ever been tbh! Super cool episode, so grateful it's back <3
gojo fujoshi
2020-09-03 10:28:58 +0000 UTCYes! I was expecting to me really horribly triggered but I'm not gonna lie, I mostly just laughed. Maybe it's a sign of having come quite far in recovery? I don't know. I certainly don't /blame/ the people who were triggered by it- I absolutely get that and understand it. That being said, it was essentially satire for me and became very cathartic lmao
gojo fujoshi
2020-09-03 10:27:26 +0000 UTCI missed this; me and the roommate lying on the sofa with the cats and listening to The Magnus Archives <3 Welcome back from break!
Anja Rendbæk
2020-09-03 09:26:05 +0000 UTCFor me Personally, one of the scariest episodes so far in a sense. Well done! Also so good to have Basira back!
Jess Nicolazzo
2020-09-03 08:01:44 +0000 UTCVERY excited to see how things roll with Basira.
PeachyIndeed
2020-09-03 02:39:20 +0000 UTCOof. Great episode. Hard, but great. Looking forward to actual introspection from Basira. Thankyou for the treat of Helen.
Laura Bailey
2020-09-02 23:57:11 +0000 UTCAs someone who went through a depression and then a burnout, I can confirm this is the kind of fear that claws at you. Especially when medical professionals refuse to officially give you a diagnostic because you're a minor. And a big thank you for discussing that kind of subject without having the overall narrative blame the patients, or misrepresenting them. This was so vivid and well done! <3
Amélia Brouillard
2020-09-02 22:54:40 +0000 UTCThis is a tremendously good episode ok but to the patron whose name is 'Peter Lukas' life insurance policy' you're hero of the week, I desperately needed that laugh THANK YOU
Mantha Grant
2020-09-02 22:35:16 +0000 UTCHoly shit I LOVED this one, yall killed it. Art is successful if it elicits a genuine emotional reaction in you, and this one definitely did it for me. Awesome work!!!
Lyla Hammar
2020-09-02 22:14:29 +0000 UTCThis was a rough one that hit a bit close to home. Its good. Its really good. I have had to pause and stop this a number of times and am still not all the way through. At least I get to process through shit using this audio drama lmfao. thanks for providing such an outlet
Ezra Rose
2020-09-02 21:44:11 +0000 UTCOof, this is probably the best handling of mental institutions in horror I've ever come across
Maika Cartwright
2020-09-02 21:35:59 +0000 UTCDoctor David is making me murderous. I am frothing at the mouth I am going to bITE
Jasper G
2020-09-02 21:01:40 +0000 UTChelen is my favorite character from anything ever
Dirk Strider
2020-09-02 20:25:17 +0000 UTCWow. Gas lighting in reverse. Great episode. Heading for an intense showdown.
Phaedra A Kelly
2020-09-02 20:06:40 +0000 UTCseveral necks were Came For on this day. rip us and rip noah (though, rip may be a poor choice of words)
martin kachow blackwood
2020-09-02 19:07:09 +0000 UTCLollll same... I'd forgotten how intense they can be. I can listen to RQG eps all day long but sometimes with TMA I need to lie down for a few hours after the new ep.
Anthony
2020-09-02 19:06:36 +0000 UTCCHRIST jonny's going HARD this season.. we love to see it!! This was truly horrific! I haven't had such a visceral reaction to anything in a really long time. My own stay in a psych ward was deeply unpleasant, it's nice to see the scary mental institution trope spun around so that people are forced to see how terrifying they ACTUALLY are... it's not the patients who scare you :/
Anthony
2020-09-02 19:05:14 +0000 UTC"you can't hunt a monster you refuse to see." wow. what a LINE.
martin kachow blackwood
2020-09-02 19:03:51 +0000 UTCWow this episode was a masterpiece of sound, and really big feelings! Welcome back!
Mikey, Mike, and the Funky Bunch
2020-09-02 18:20:59 +0000 UTCAnyone else imagining Helen in a retro nurse outfit? Really good episode as always. Definitely a different take on The Spiral and the fear regarding mental health than expected.
LainyJP
2020-09-02 18:14:02 +0000 UTC30 seconds into the statement and I wanna deck this guy
A very wealthy divorce attorney
2020-09-02 17:48:20 +0000 UTCOoof. That was...a lot. Jonny never ceases to amaze with his writing AND his acting. Switching between “brooding” archivist and smarmy Dr. David - beautifully done. Helen’s progression from victim to reluctant avatar to a full blown “what” has been so subtle. She gets a little more sinister every time she appears. Kudos to Imogen for her portrayal. Then there’s Alex and his soundscaping. FFS, you’re effing brilliant, dude. And Frank! It’s so good to have them back for an entire episode. I’ve so missed the weekly pain of this podcast.
Gilligan Mungus
2020-09-02 17:42:21 +0000 UTCAfter weeks of binging hour-long RQG podcasts, the half-hour TMA looks mighty short... and then Jonny and Co. remind us why they're only half an hour long.
Issendai
2020-09-02 17:35:08 +0000 UTCsee you never, dr David >:(
HoloXam
2020-09-02 17:30:12 +0000 UTCWow, Dr. David just sent me back in time to when I first came out as trans and had my mental health "treated". 20/10 guys, really well done, you really managed to get that feeling conveyed in a way I haven't really found anywhere else.
Syrus Brynger
2020-09-02 17:28:41 +0000 UTCthis is like the first mental hospital horror that didnt make me fume from anger from how bad it was handled as somebody whos been in one and has trauma from it. good job 👍
Jennyclart
2020-09-02 17:19:44 +0000 UTCoh my god, they were having A MOMENT
sasmus
2020-09-02 17:18:42 +0000 UTCHonestly am I the only one who found the statement really humorous? Like as someone who has been to mental hospitals several times this exactly how some of my old psychiatrists and social workers acted towards me.
Abigail Espinoza
2020-09-02 17:15:27 +0000 UTCJonny gaslights you asmr
Abigail Espinoza
2020-09-02 17:03:27 +0000 UTCYikes!
GriffinsTreehouse
2020-09-02 17:01:35 +0000 UTCGosh, this podcast has such vivid imagery... In my time zone episodes release at night so I lie in the pitch black and listen. Can recommend.
Lurkin
2020-09-02 16:47:02 +0000 UTCGlad you're back! Magnus archives has turned me into a horror fan - I never watched/read/listened to any before starting this podcast. It's really given me an interest in and appreciation for the genre. Great episode, thanks
Lurkin
2020-09-02 16:42:46 +0000 UTCthis one was so good thank you
RaspberryHeaven
2020-09-02 16:34:16 +0000 UTCI’m going to say a big THANK YOU for the content warnings, this hit a little too close to home. It was incredible, though.
The Leo!
2020-09-02 16:24:26 +0000 UTCFuck. That was an excellent episode but... Intense.
Laure Gagnon-Tremblay
2020-09-02 16:08:14 +0000 UTCOUCH. That was ROUGH!
fromgloriousjupiter
2020-09-02 16:07:21 +0000 UTCAudible finger guns and audible eye rolls y'all are wizards
Maddie
2020-09-02 16:03:08 +0000 UTCone of my favorites so far (as i have said after every single episode this season). super relatable for better and worse, and the banter was a good contrast to the intensity of the statement. super excited for the routine of serialization once more :)
Maya Peretz
2020-09-02 15:50:21 +0000 UTCSo the prestatement is all about Basira pinning the eyepocalypse on Jon, the statement is about victim blaming people for things literally out of their control, and the post statement has Basira unable to fathom a criminal is a victim. This is about as subtle as a brick but I love it. Now I fear the first person who's going to tell Jon this wasn't his fault is goddamn Elias.
Arcturus
2020-09-02 15:49:02 +0000 UTCSo excited for new episodes! Well done on this one!
Marianne weber
2020-09-02 15:48:57 +0000 UTCy’all came straight for my neck with this one..............
Ren MacKinnon
2020-09-02 15:46:11 +0000 UTCFabric noises,,, the rq birthday stream confirmed what that means (poor Basira being a third wheel)
Ghost Dandy Mi
2020-09-02 15:44:07 +0000 UTCthis episode hurt <3 thank you jonny thank you alex
Caligula
2020-09-02 15:42:07 +0000 UTClistening to alex read the patreon names was really calming after this episode
Citruslusche
2020-09-02 15:41:07 +0000 UTCYikes. I did not know how much of a legitimate fear I had of doctors like Dr. David, so thanks for revealing that for me, Jonny. That was... intense. Lovely to have Basira back though. And Helen!
romi רוֹמִי
2020-09-02 15:40:13 +0000 UTCFucking ouch dude. I hope people read the warnings. Welcome back!
Megan Aguilar-Ames
2020-09-02 15:39:02 +0000 UTCStrong start! Good to see you back
Adam Honeyman
2020-09-02 15:37:04 +0000 UTCOoof, Dr. David. Big oooof. But glad Bassira didn't do a dumb!
Sadie Moon
2020-09-02 15:36:14 +0000 UTCoh no :)
sageybug
2020-09-02 15:35:21 +0000 UTCWelll that was fucking rough. I’m glad Basira is back at least.
James White
2020-09-02 15:31:28 +0000 UTCOmg that was intense. But great as always
Harley_treefrog
2020-09-02 15:30:23 +0000 UTClooks like I was right about it being the Spiral episode
Idris
2020-09-02 15:25:37 +0000 UTCSeeing these warnings.... i might have to pass on this one. But i'm glad you're back!
Eli Lass
2020-09-02 15:05:26 +0000 UTCWHERE IS DAISY WHERE IS MY GIRL
ttroutlaw
2020-09-02 15:03:16 +0000 UTC
