The Summer I Turned Pretty 2X3: Love Sick
Added 2023-07-18 18:48:43 +0000 UTCMore tears. My crying is getting out of hand.
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Maybe we can just chalk it up to 'right person, wrong time.' Even if it is the 'right person, right time,' you're right. Between the grief and the age, it's unlikely it would have worked anyway. That's a good point. A lot of what Conrad does is self-sabotaging. He wants so badly for other people to have what they need and want, that he's willing to go without. He kind of reminds me of the Giving Tree. In the end, he's happy to have given to others, but then he's depleted. In addition, I'm sure that depression and anxiety are exacerbated by grief.
Dana Licciardello
2023-07-19 19:29:28 +0000 UTCI agree that Conrad should have told her that he didn't want to go to prom and not tried to force it. He wanted to make her happy (and I think his mom too - she was so excited on facetime) but it was a recipe for disaster. I think even if Belly had left prom with him though, it would have been a bandaid and just delayed the breakup. Neither were ready to make it work so young and while they were grieving. I think you're probably right about some of Belly's motivations. She may have been trying to beat him to the punch but she also probably wanted nothing more than for him to fight for her in that moment. Normally, I get really irritated by characters who try to decide what's best for someone else but Conrad pulls at my sympathy strings because so much of that perspective seems to be related to his depression and anxiety which is usually chemical and can't be easily controlled. Sure, he's always been someone who worried about bothering others and was more independent and introverted (from Belly's description) but it seems like those personality traits fed into the depression and turned into feelings of self-loathing and unworthiness that became self-sabotaging. It lessens some of my usual frustration over it.
Melissa
2023-07-19 03:18:09 +0000 UTCOh, good. I'm glad I didn't just forget what she looked like. I really quite liked him with Shayla, but I'm glad he seems to be maturing. I was pretty impressed with his conversation with Taylor (who also seems like a much better friend this season). I agree, and I think that's what makes them feel like real people. Real life is generally one step forward, two steps back. Even when you're making progress, it's not linear. My only issue with Corad's behavior at prom was that he wouldn't talk to Belly about it (prior to being at the prom- although I agree, she should have gone outside with her the first time he asked), which falls back into his need to stop keeping everything all bottled up and let people help him. The only reason I'm upset with Conrad is that Belly can't help him or fix the problem if he won't talk to her. Now, should she have said something like, "Hey, I know this is a rough time for you; let's skip prom and just hang?" Yeah, probably. But it's hard to fault a 17-year-old for not wanting to skip her prom for a boyfriend who keeps insisting that he can go. But I think you're completely right in not wanting him to put on a happy face and go about his life. I think it's interesting to watch how differently they all grieve. And that lends itself to the issue of how to help people who are grieving when you, yourself, are also grieving. I have mixed feelings about the scene where they break up. I know it's because Conrad doesn't think he's good enough for her right now, and he doesn't want to bring her down with him. This is definitely coming from a place of love (whatever that means to Conrad), but I hate when people try to decide what's better for the other person. Let me decide if I want to be around when you're sad, upset, unhinged. I feel like that's not his decision to make. However, I also think that Conrad probably couldn't be with Belly then. He just didn't have the space during what was happening right then. I don't think he wanted to break up, but I don't think he could deal with both what was happening with his mom and disappointing Belly at the same time. I'm curious about Belly's pre-emptive breakup as well. I'm wondering if, rather than an attempt to get him before he got her, it could be an instance of where she expected him to say 'no' it's not over, and she wanted him to fight for her. Because, up until that point, mom issues or not, it did seem like he was pulling away and less present in their relationship. She may have simply been looking for some reassurance, and it didn't turn out the way she'd hoped.
Dana Licciardello
2023-07-18 23:46:51 +0000 UTCSteven's date isn't supposed to be Shayla. It's just a random girl. I wish Shayla was coming back this season but I don't think she is, unfortunately. It's nice to see Steven have such development this season cause I feel like last season he was kind of in a rut. It felt like we kept getting the same emotional beats from him with Shayla with the insecurities. I feel like everyone has kind of progressed actually even when they backslide into bad habits. Belly is taking responsibility for her behavior. Conrad's first instinct is to do it alone but he's letting people help when they offer instead of pushing them away. Taylor is way more sympathetic this season. Jere is getting some emotional development instead of just being the fun-loving guy. I saw the prom scene differently than probably everyone else lol. I think Belly is kind of the one at fault for the situation spiraling. Obviously, Conrad was upset over Susannah and sounded like he was going to cry while they were dancing and Belly's inexperienced and didn't realize it had nothing to do with her. But wanting Conrad to fake a smile and pretend everything's fine is kind of selfish when what's wrong is his mom dying. And I feel like Conrad tried to communicate his needs with her twice and she shot him down. He asked if they could leave together, she said no. He told her that he wanted to go home early cause he didn't want to ruin the rest of the night and she ignored that. They finally go outside and he looks like he might have a panic attack at first. She asks him not to shut her out and he tells her what's wrong. He feels like he's disappointing her and ruining the night. She denies it, though it's true, and asks him to go back inside when he's already told her that he wants to leave twice, even inviting her to go with him. He tried to communicate and it wasn't done very well but I think that's to be expected. He's not good at it cause it's still new to him, letting people help. He walks away and that's shitty to just leave her there. He shouldn't have done that. Then Belly escalates it by breaking up with him, to beat him to the punch, when he wasn't trying to break up with her. But Conrad's not going to argue that she should stay with him cause he has a self-loathing problem.
Melissa
2023-07-18 20:03:19 +0000 UTC
