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Episode 11: The CIA and the Deep State w/Ray McGovern

This episode features Aaron and his Peace Studies of the American Century students in conversation with retired CIA officer Ray McGovern. The discussion ranges across Ray’s experiences as a CIA officer from the Kennedy administration to first George Bush administration—as well as his post-CIA work as a peace activist weighing in on Iraq WMD, CIA torture, Julian Assange, and the Russiagate hoax.

Special thanks to Casey Moore for the episode art and Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!  

Music: "
Grow Your Soul Away" by Mock Orange


Episode 11: The CIA and the Deep State w/Ray McGovern

Comments

So God was in on Russiagate. I knew it!

Jim McSporran

Yes, it's great to have guys like him around. More in this vein soon, hopefully!

Aaron Good

Really enjoyed this discussion. Ray’s voice and speaking style reminds me of the character “deep throat” from the X-Files….but maybe the subject matter is getting to my head lol

Aidan powell

Inkin, Blinken, and Nod memes 😂

John McElroy

He's so generic you almost want to give him a pass...

Aaron Good

Really appreciated you taking a moment to draw attention to Blinken. A perfect representative of the species of stooges and dunces that slither around Washington to administer empire. Just a loathsome guy.

Matt Pierce

I'll get him back on at some point in the future...

Aaron Good

I would definitely listen to a long episode with Ray, there’s so much more from that era that would be fascinating to hear you two in conversation on!

Jack Hamrick

Thanks! I myself really enjoyed re-listening to this after more than 6 months. Ray is a wonderful guy and he's had a great vantage point for a lot the events we cover here...

Aaron Good

Wow! This was an insanely good episode. Ray's story speaks to the multitude of problems facing individuals intertwined in the system under which we live. That he has committed himself to peace, truth and justice as a way to atone for his past inaction is remarkable...plus, he's hilarious. Thank you so much!

Camille Shultz


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