Episode 42: Minding the Darkness, Minding the Light w/Peter Dale Scott (Part 6)
Added 2022-05-11 00:01:42 +0000 UTCThis is Part 6 of Minding the Darkness, Minding the Light—our oral history series with Professor Peter Dale Scott. He is the iconoclastic poet, historian, and the creator of parapolitics as well as the deep politics approach. We are again accompanied by co-host Ben Howard who joins us as Peter reflects upon a number of topics including:
- his 1970 article for Ramparts which has yet to be published after being stolen by the CIA in 1970 as part of Operation Chaos: "Private War Enterprise in Asia: Air America, the Brook Club, and the Kuomintang"
- his 1973 or 1974 article (we mistakenly dated it at 1971, but that is not quite right) about the the CIA, high finance, and the Vietnam War: "The Vietnam War and the CIA-Financial Establishment"
Follow Ben on Twitter and check out his latest series on NATO over at TrueAnon: Episode 220: Marathon Men (Part 1)
Special thanks to Casey Moore for the episode art and Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Stop and Go" by Mock Orange
Comments
Thanks. Douglass' big claim in his books is that Nazi big wig Heinrich Muller was not killed at the end of WW2 but was brought to the USA via Paperclip and lived to a ripe old age, and that Douglass was able to interview him. Douglass also wrote a book on JFK called Regicide: The Official Assassination of John F. Kennedy. These books are all on Kindle and don't seem to have found much in the way of distribution. One has to wonder if Douglass is some kind of fraudster or nut or his whole existence some kind of Op. But the "transcripts" read like real conversations. If it is fake, it is a good fake. He and Crowley definitely deny the official holocaust numbers, and he also hints that many in the CIA after WW2 were outright Nazi sympathizers and anti-semites - which he definitely is.
Dogface Reilly
2022-05-13 17:53:51 +0000 UTCI vaguely recall reading about this years ago. I am guessing that there are problems with his story or else we would have heard more about him. I will try and ask him about this when I get the chance.
Aaron Good
2022-05-13 16:45:39 +0000 UTCI wonder if PDS is familiar with the book "Confessions of the Crow" by a very sketchy writer named Gregory Douglas? The book consists of (Or purports to consist of) transcripts of phone conversations between Douglas and Ex-CIA Robert T. Crowley. It also mentions PDS's book "Deep Politics and the Death of JFK".. In the book, Crowley openly discusses CIA's involvement in the JFK assassination, as well as several others (Mary Pinchot Meyer, E. Howard Hunt's wife, etc...) There are enough interesting details in the book, and many "tales out of school" to make you wonder if it might be real - details about Dulles, late in life, being incontinent and abused by his wife, Georgetown gossip, etc... But the main point of the book seems to be Douglas grinding his ax against other writers and historians - mainly Joseph Trento but he also rails against PDS. Could you ask PDS about this book and if he thinks it might NOT be a fraud? If it is a fraud, why was it written and then very badly distributed? (PS I can send you a pdf of the book if you are interested)
Dogface Reilly
2022-05-13 13:37:35 +0000 UTCPDS' speculation of a higher agency/power behind the scenes seems like an interesting metaphysical concept (if not a concrete or literal thing) to consider. That leads me to the question I've often wondered, which sounds completely absurd on its face, but becomes less absurd when one is aware of Scott's work as well as unorthodox legal ideas undergirding continuity of government and the response to terrorism, and Schmitt's exception. The question is: was the assassination of JFK legal? Like I said, it sounds absurd on its face, but the longer I've been researching parapolitics, the less absurd it seems to ask. The only place I've seen that question asked is in the late H.P. Albarelli's Coup in Dallas. I don't know whether the book itself is trustworthy but I do know that Albarelli was generally very good at outside-the-box thinking. I would love to know what PDS thinks of this odd question and its implications.
Bong Bong
2022-05-13 04:10:55 +0000 UTCNot so much that it's the exact same players, but that it represents an institutional evolution--the clandestine ops apparatus being taken out of the US gov't to an even less accountable organization that included Saudi intelligence and and massive off-the-books financing...
Aaron Good
2022-05-11 20:24:19 +0000 UTCIn American Deep State, PDS places his discussion of the Safari Club adjacent to discussions of the pre-9/11 shennanigans. I took the adjacency as an indication for the reader to connect the dots between the Safari Club and 9/11, particularly because the same players seem to be involved. Maybe I am reading too much into that.
Jon Croteau
2022-05-11 19:32:35 +0000 UTCGood question. We actually get into that a little in the next episode...
Aaron Good
2022-05-11 17:27:51 +0000 UTCWho is driving this flying umbrella? That is the $64,000 question.
Jon Croteau
2022-05-11 17:22:38 +0000 UTCIs that the one with the “I’ll take you to the blood bank” line?
NYCM&AHole
2022-05-11 16:19:08 +0000 UTCRed-pilled Steven Segal is not to be messed with
Aaron Good
2022-05-11 02:40:04 +0000 UTCI just watched "Above the Law". I wasn't expecting a plot that involved CIA drug running, and an assassination attempt on a Senator. Segal's character even asks if it will involve a motorcade or passing through a kitchen.
Joe
2022-05-11 01:53:17 +0000 UTC
