Dimple actually did care about Mob in his messed up way he wanted Mob and him to run the cult also when he thought he used to much power he slipped up and got worried
Daniel Gonzalez
2023-04-19 19:31:13 +0000 UTC
When this was airing I noticed a lot of people with the same sentiment as you, that 100% Mob would wipe the floor with dimple and that’s not quite true
Remember the Brocoli was made by mob fusing his 100% power and Suzukis 100% power (which was stronger than mob mind you) together into the seed in his pocket
Obviously mob has ???%(which would no diff dimple)and his 100% does get stronger each time but definitely not enough to effortlessly slap dimple
MWS
2023-04-18 20:01:04 +0000 UTC
I will give you that and i have some problems with that part aswell. But as you also setup, the counter argument is that society, your parentage, your genetic background, you non-genetic biological background, your economic background, your technological background and your religious background are also non-consentual. You have no choice in these things and all these things are the exact things that define you. His plan is to change your current religion, making a change for all that currently live. That is him cancelling a choice that they have made. For future generations he is changing a background... though he is taking away the future choice to change their religion.
Again, i am personally not a fan of his idea, but i also think it is hard to call it evil. Especially depending on your definition of evil, as it will increase happiness, while reducing violence and death world wide. I personally think that over a long enough timescale, knowing the truth and working under its constraints may be more beneficial, but that is a matter of personal belief.
Miklar Sihn
2023-04-18 16:26:57 +0000 UTC
While I think you're partially correct, the lack of consent is one of the things that I can't abide here. And yes, I think that pertains to actual religions as well, which in many cases brainwash/indoctrinate people, often from an early age. There's no supernatural force involved, but it's just as disgusting. And dimple isn't wrong in saying that many laws are created in the same way, projecting subjective morals onto the masses who have no choice other than to "behave", for fear of reprisal.
Aeco
2023-04-18 15:44:58 +0000 UTC
The thing is, Dimple isnt lying. He has made everyone religious and followers of his religion, but that is it. He hasnt changed anything else about them. Hell, even the requirements arent bad. The only thing you are required to do is pray towards the tree 5 minutes a day.
So while it feels very icky and he has the ability to do far more and far worse things with it, he hasnt actually done anything all that bad. His followers do also seem to be very happy with their shared religion.
Now i am not for it, but then again, i am an atheist and i am very focused on believing stuff that i have some evidential backing for. So that would be my basis for being against Dimple, but beyond that i would have a hard time countering his position.
His current deal is that he will make everyone a bit happier and remove religious sectarian violence in exchange for 5 minutes of prayer from everyone in the world and property damage in the area around the tree.