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William Epstein (Violet)

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The smoking teens things is super wack unless it's filmed by peers. The idea that someone wants it to look like kids filming kids gets a lot weirder when you imagine a old fat guy (sorry 😅) behind the camera breathing heavy and salivating. It's like porn casting territory and he fucking knows it which is hinted at further with the behind the leaves creep shots and shit.

Chrissy

its strange cause I don't think his racist or anything, it just doesn't seem right that Strobeck is manifesting of black ppls culture. plus after digesting your notes about him I feel grossed by Epstein and the other side of his videos. the kunta kinte dub in stallion reflects prefectly to the kind of theft that he is up to.

נָאוֹר

The blessed intro with the (at most) 14 yo girls chest wearing the shirt that says blessed says it all

Travis Straightiff

Amazing

Travis Straightiff

Strobeck reminds me an edgy teen who watched KIDS for the first time and peaked.

Alex Thomson

FA, Hockey etc Decks in Austria €85 (89dollars) insane!

Renzo Zissou

Fat fucking bill

Matijas Karsbo

when a skate video filmer tells you to do something for the camera like drinking something it is just wack it gives off a fake vibe

spitting_goblin

Bill can take the heat, boa has a lil goon in him dont we all

Bluntslideofdoom

You subscribed to a patreon for controversial takes, someones gonna get their feelings hurt here and there 🤣

riley weatherby

Yer this is pretty much the level , uber moronic

Sol Zero

Look, if you’re not speaking from the perspective of a trans woman who skateboards, you do not have the insight to be commenting on what standards trans women should be held to in skateboarding. It’s honestly not your place. Like what is par for you? What you’ve seen cis men do? I’m tempted to start getting into how much changes with transitioning. How it effects every aspect of a person’s life let alone fucking skateboarding. How much energy that takes and how much continuing to skate at any rate is a double bind or an uphill battle for any trans women. But what’s actually the point? The people making comments like this care more about how sick a video part is (by their own standards) than the actual life of the person they’re watching. But at least these comments are always prefaced with “inclusivity is great and positive” as if that’s helping anyone.

Samantha H

That’s a good one

Aaron

Wide Willy

Cole Park

Who has supported Hook-Ups since the Birdhouse/Hook-Ups heyday? It’s like the tiniest niche company ever these days. And who would be thinking Hook-Ups is problematic anyway lol I haven’t seen any Hook-Ups product in real life for about 25 years. I had a pair of the shoes back in the day ha ha so weird

Rama

I have to defend the fakie big flip. That is actually one of the hardest 4 stairs in the world to skate. It’s unfortunate that the angle they filmed it from (which is pretty much the only angle) doesn’t do it a justice at all. Appreciate all your other points tho 😜

thewhatofwhom

Fat bill is funny

Cameron Kosak

My friend used to model in asia loads and he met a girl there on a job, he was wearing some hook ups gear which she noticed and pointed out saying something to the effect of “oh that man always messages me saying how pretty I am and great I look” she was barely 18 at the time and proceeded to tell my mate how he comes to Japan a lot and always asks to hang. I’m getting sex tourist vibes tbh

Jimgrecojacket

Obese William

Garrick Slings

Hehe

1

I think you made a lot of good points but calling Bill fat repeatedly was just super cheap, kind of a whack insult and seems out of place among serious criticisms in my opinion.

Aaron

where’d ur twitch channel go

Ethan

After reading oli knights comment and him mentioning harmony korines as an inspiration to strobeck and then realizing sean Pablo’s last post “mile high club” #harmoneykorine with the whole team with harmony idk I could be off but maybe there’s some miniature beef going on lol. Especially if they aren’t really vibing with bill like that granted I’m sure it’s all still love but thought that was interesting

Ty

4. Efrons position on the team clearly is from a trans inclusionary sentiment. Which is a great And positive thing However like the issues there skateboards have: the level of skating up to par- in efrons case, No definitely no. That fakie big flip down a 4 stair to hillbimb was the epitome of the kinda clip that would be in your ended of your homies skate video when you were 15. Some clips of efrons really show her ability like that amazing back lip fs shuv but so much of it is so sub par it really just seems like classic token marginalised queer skater shit.

Jimgrecojacket

3. The 2nd bit where it’s that girl and Troy in the blue light is plain fucking weird. It plays as like wait am I about to watch some iPhone sex tape of strobeck about to get head of a young skater girl totally fucking weird even if you realise they are just chilling and Troy is there too. The lighting and creepy teeth also just add to the tone and images being served feeling so off

Jimgrecojacket

Someone give this guy a mic 🎤

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2. Strobeck wants to be Larry clark so much….. and fails to do so mostly. His fascination of youth doesnt come from an adverse/odd yet genuine reason which clark has, strobecks reason is that he is such an aesthete and is entirely decorative in his creativity that he has as much taste and eye as a average tumblr girls moodboard. P.s - I don’t think him filming candid stuff of boys or girls he knows is weird but his long lense creepy shots of underage girls and woman he doesn’t know is not a good look in any case

Jimgrecojacket

Ok so couple things. Regarding the use of black hun and culture, don’t think it’s that deep as most of the stuff chosen may be entirely through strobeck handing the creatives reigns to the riders who several whom are black and saying he what do you want to see on a t shirt or board. I am giving him a massive benefit of the doubt here especially as I strongly on the other hand think it is so fucking cringey that the other half of violets aesthetic is “downtown it NY it girl/ it boy” mood board stuff. Expect to see Chloe sevignys face on a board soon at some point.

Jimgrecojacket

vincent huhta s tier

richud

Agree great point, I don’t think the Violet stuff is selling because it feels like I’m being cool guy’d watching the video. I feel like I’d be giving money to people that don’t even like me lmfao

1

Perhaps a little mean spirited, but he did have plenty of time to react

1

I’m the curb skater that lives under a rock guys it’s me

Garrick Slings

While I agree with most of the takes, I think we could let up on calling him “Fat Bill”. I understand it’s his old nickname, but the whole rant about his fisheye slam was a bit much for me tbh

Davis Campbell

Sparkly effects mr strobeck uses giving me 2017 playboi carti edit skate park hero vibes

CarharttFinalBoss

I remember he already did at the stallion review vid?

Janne-Juhani Hyvärinen

If there's anything to learn and move forward from here - for anyone making skate videos - its to actually give a shit and treat your subject matter and audience with more care and understanding. A good video should give a shit. Have some compassion. Create a sense of community, because that's what going out skating and filming illustrates. Giving a shit with a bit of empathy and some hard work usually leads to original ideas, not self indulgent played out ones.

matt

seen troy skate in person that kid is really fucked

0.0.6.6.6.6

his recent shit comes off as unprofessional and borderline inappropriate tbh

Alexander Cantu

strobeck isn't cringe he's straight up wack at this point. yes, cherry featured a young Tyshawn Jones and Aidan Mackey- but it also had legitimate/amazing parts from Dylan and Dill. The way I see it, These violet skaters are all just kids at the end of the day.

Alexander Cantu

The colors look so purple because the brand is called violet lol cringe.

dopplegangerxp

That’s perfect

Tyler Fernandez

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Daniel G

Exactly, when I first watched it I was like… he’s not even trying to hide it there I’ve always gotten an icky feeling from him

logan gore

BLACK VIEWER: I’m literally torn between liking the overall theme of this company as a black skater and then just feeling stupid because a white guy went look black people skate blackcore black aesthetic and I like the overall theme of the company just as this white man wanted me and other black skater to so he can make money

Kieran Bailey

efron’s part is so dope

Nick Perry

you arent crazy about going back on manuals

brotherberg

If you love Patrick watch “untitled” by Michael Rodriguez he has last part in it

zacho

Spill the tea about the shirtless stallion guy tho

Robby Heitler

the dan schneider of skateboarding

bruhmode88

Definitely getting slide film vibes from the colors

Jonathan iannuzzi

i cant get over that bit at the end man what the fuck is he talking about "elise has to jump in the river" not even tryna be subtle

Louis

im burnt on strobeck and his sussy vibes. Been a fan of most of the team for years so happy to get footy from all them, but yea it would be cooler if it wasn't because of fat bill. Troy and seven are insane.

Logan Jones

Yea it's strobeck co-opting black culture and imagery as an aesthetic, a fetishization. I'm sure a lot of people would disagree and defend Strobeck, and this definitely won't hinder board sales. But, I mean, people still support problematic companies like Hook Ups...

blue3

I think Strobeck is heavily inspired by Larry Clark who I find to be pretty problematic (even though I love the film KIDS (I think it’s mainly good because of Harmony Korines input though)) and I think his love for the sides of Larry Clark that i find to be dodgy are coming across more and more. Lingering, slow motion shots of young teenagers without shirts on is just a bit odd given that he is 45 and I totally agree that the shot of the woman who didn’t want to be filmed was shitty, I remember feeling really uncomfortable when I saw that. I’m not saying he’s a bad person or anything, I just find some of the things he does a bit questionable.

chaosisme

Just a thought for a video that would be funny. “fried skater” tier list. Lol

J_Dawg

Bruh William Epstein lmaaaaoooo

zacho


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