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OVER/UNDERRATED

Hey Everyone, working on the last resort video right now, I will put that out by tomorrow if it kills me. 

Got a cool suggestion by @crookedpieceoftime.

I'll do an over/underrated style video, could be a fun format.

In the comments you can suggest a skater, or company, piece of clothing whatever.

Feel free to comment on others suggestions or your own, why you think someone/ thing is underrated or overrated, or even correctly rated.

I'll take the ones i like and run polls on IG where you guys can vote on it I'll give my answers in a video then check the poll to see if we agree. 

Pretty fried but could be fun, let's start some beef.



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Comments

overrated: being 12 and trying to dictate gh’s upload schedule

John Philips

stickers or some tangible goodies might be cool? I see you're doing the BBB shirts at wholesale for us which is also a cool perk. stuff like that might take more heat off you. I'm satisfied for the most part but others may not. Also, other creators are offering a bit more at the price point.

JP

I’d be happy with one a week and one YouTube video a week if they are 100% consistent. Have you thought of uploading you twitch streams over here for more content?

Jesse Bungalows

My goal is usually one video per week here, one on YouTube. Three videos a week is not feasible for me. I could start doing more audio stuff but if your expectation is 2 a week I’m going to disappoint you

1

there’s definitely not enough videos to justify the price point per month. Either lower the price or you have to start uploading at least 2 videos a week or a lot of people will bounce.

Jesse Bungalows

steep kicks underrated

Nrvnqsr

Yours and the comments above kinda supports that its inconsistent. The reason I had multiple Quasis was that I like the company and the first one I had was decent (8.5) and the next two were utter shit. I want to support them but I don't want to wonder if the 60-70 dollar spent will yield a good or bad experience. Thankfully, I see that they do some of their boards through bbs but not all. Hopefully more and more will go through them.

JP

My last two boards have been Quasi and I've not had any issues with them feeling soggy. I actually prefer them after skating only BBS boards previously. The 8.5 shape is real good.

David Hart

yo fr I just got a glue deck (PS) and I thought it was legit for the first two sessions and then I tried my homies creature board which had been through way more abuse and that was still way stiffer than my deck that was pretty much still fresh

Victoria

Drake‘s album is low key fire

Straizor

i counted and I’ve watched it 15 times since it came out

zacho

Did y’all watch the last resort vid though? That shit had my pussy drippin

Austin Manuel

Seeing 1k people giving him $10 a month probably puts a lot of stress on him because we’re paying him unlike YouTube

zacho

if you guys want mid videos every single day aaron kyro is probably more your speed

apachetakedown

everybody be nice to joa. do you want him to take his time and give us good video or rush it and put out video he's not satisfied with? also it's summertime you can't expect him to sit inside and make videos all day for fucks sake. and quit acting like "we pay him 10k a month" we pay him $10 the lifted tater hivemind is not a thing

apachetakedown

I’ve been here since day one of this patreon and since there has been a gradual increase in quality, is that you don’t upload as much anymore because you think about what to say more now and/or want to find stuff you think will be the best to talk about?

zacho

I’d say he’s correctly rated. He’s got a spot in this years Solus contest, had a spot in last year’s x-games real street, he even did the video promoting Indy’s inverted kingpin baseplate, not to mention a full video part with warble, with a GH analysis as well. All huge platforms for his talents and all well deserved.

Barefoot Bomber

^^ agree

Ryan Lawton

Quasi is definitely the worst piece of shit I ever skated. It felt soggy even from the very first session and started chipping away shortly after. Replaced that sorry ass board as soon as I could.

Oscar Eliasson

nah skateboarding is cool because you're sideways and use your arms. biking and scootering look kinda silly because you're just kinda there facing forward grabbing handlebars lol

Coinstar

true^ not gonna lie been pretty dissapointed in content past few months, outside of the last vid. world genius, and the live streams are usually much more entertaining than the patreon exclusive vids. straight up, that stream highlights channel did more for me than the patreon. the peter griffin clip had me dying

ben braun

why do i even pay for this if ur not gonna post for 11 days

rain

Mama skates, underrated.

Austin Manuel

Chris Colbourn just underrated in general.

methylcybin

it killed him

yoloboy

Here Joa, I’ll write the news clip for you. ->Build up the hype for your next video…Last Resort shoe company released a new video on the Free Skate Mag channel called “Alv’s Angels”. Apparently the pioneers of nerd core geek steez have compiled a clip montage of ride-on grinds and sketchy acid drops along with some crusty bank/ledge spots. If you can make it to the end of the video, you’ll see Chris Milic skating with a casted wrist! I wonder where and when that happened? Make sure to watch the video yourself before Gifted Hater releases an in-depth analysis!

Barefoot Bomber

Did some math and GH is netting around 10 grand /month off this alone even after patreon gets a cut. Not sure if that’s over or underrated but we can ponder this while we wait for the vid.

JP

I swear this weekend will be epic content story sorry it’s really hard to work here, I’ll be home tomorrow

1

naw were payin him 10k a month 😭

blue3

Get to work content slave!

Austin Manuel

Australian skating underrated as fuck

Marley Vandenboom

Haha yeah it's pretty old. Im being a bit cheeky including him.

sillybilly

it’s wednesday joa

Ryan Lawton

honestly Bobby Dekeyzer is immensely praised and well rated

blue3

Underrated: Corey Glick and Myles Willard. Both need are too good for tum yeto and should go to quasi or something and glow up

JP

I always preferred spitfires image over bones but their product early on was ass. Shout out to bones for making spitfire step it up and come out with f4s, which is a gift to skating imo

JP

@beratethebirds

JP

What’s Ted barrows patreon

Austin Manuel

Joa, are you alive?

Harald Reynolds

It killed him

Zane Blake

Simple shoes (simpleshoes.com)

Depau Moran

the

Bailey Riggs

liar

rain

I like Ben D but he's approaching the boards as someone who has millions of back up decks. He also mentioned (not sure in the Joa vid or his own vid) that PS stix decks are very inconsistent. Maybe its just the boards Quasi gets from them or if its every company but in my experience, the boards sog out and become very unresponsive after session 2 or 3. I maybe im just harder on my boards but BBS never gets that way.

JP

couldn’t care less*

Alexander Cantu

What do u think about PS being Ben D’s fav board manufacturer in the vid he did with Joa? I really could care less about this topic to be completely honest. I just skate my local’s shop deck mostly, it’s interesting that people have specific preferences about shit like this

Alexander Cantu

Ps stix is overrated as a wood shop. Shit gets soggy after 2 sessions. Quality is also inconsistent. I don't know why we put so much trust in board construction from a guy who hasn't popped an ollie in probably ever (prof schmitt)

JP

staying up waiting for a project to render, hoping that last resort video comes late nite 🙏🏽

Alexander Cantu

Corduroy pants

Nolan Kramer

Jaakko Ojanen lowkey a wizard

wesseli

Chris milic was underrated and ahead of his time on the slap one in a million program in 2010... fast forward to now and all the kewl dudes skate like him... does that mean the mango has spoiled? The answer is no. I liked his last resort part.

sillybilly

Kyle Wilson

Paul

Yeah I know sorry I thought I could finish the video faster, I’m working on editing while I’m here tho, gf sleeping and I’m cranking it out

1

He's in palm springs on his 3rd vacation this year. I'm more and more feeling like Ted Barrow's 3 dollar tier is a way better value. They get way more content and their 10 dollar tier gets monthly stickers! *paid for by ted barrow **not really but please upload more joa.

JP

So are u dead

swagboy

I think I am a cig hater.

Harald Reynolds

oily Chris underrated

Show us ya Stussy

I feel like smoking cigs on camera is underrated these days, whereas smoking weed is overrated

Oscar Eliasson

Yardsale is rated love them but they haven’t really brought anything to the table

nabye.y

Skateboarding’s impact on culture outside of skateboarding: over or underrated? Would love to check the temperature on this from both skaters and civilians.

Nature Table

He got a street part?

Rajeev

hes rated very well and is still under rated that boy is golden

centar_rick

properly rated, if not under rated, that team is absolutely cracked. Buggy, Mark, Josh Wilson are my favs

centar_rick

Bronze 56k team

Scott Nerbas

Overrated - smoking cigs on camera Underrated - companies giving riders health insurance Underrated - skaters holding each other accountable Overrated - Fighting with security at a spot Overrated - tagging a skate spot Underrated - companies giving filmers credit at the end of videos & listing skaters names.

Harald Reynolds

George puolos skating is underrated

ethan

Me I’m underrated everyone follow me

Matijas Karsbo

Being white isn't enough to classify him as gentrifier. WIll need to see his apartment, salary statement, and credit score first.

JP

European skaters - underrated

Oscar Eliasson

facts keegan mccutchen is so underrated he's a goat

panasonictv1

EC Melodi

Zac Signorino

Vincent Touzery

Zac Signorino

Style wise

Zac Signorino

Underrated is one of the best rn

Zac Signorino

yeah i agree they probs wouldnt, but hypothetically haha

brad

Bobby DeKeyzer

Elliot Rooney

Rowan zorilla as most well rounded skater boi underrated

Brent Yo Endo

🤯🤯

Iloveakon

I'd like to nominate Matt Militano and Athen McCrary as underrated boarders. Absolutely awesome riders with little to no sponsors(?) I haven't seen them in many company videos at least. Thanks hater :)

angcient_rock

Santino- underrated

Jorge

I’ll take jessup over mob any day

Ryan Kewley

soft wheels underrated

Cole

Low impact, fun, creative, non serious skateboarding underrated

Austin Manuel

Insta edits with rap overrated

Austin Manuel

Shifty kick flips overrated

Austin Manuel

Late flip/shuv overrated

Austin Manuel

Max palmer underrated

Austin Manuel

sully cormier underrated

Andrew Kristof

sully cormier overrated

Andrew Kristof

Super fried no question

1

The very concept of overrated vs underrated is overrated. Haha

Barefoot Bomber

Nick Boserio, underrated. I feel like a lot of folks dig him and his footy, but the man is unreal. He skates so fast and his style never feels super predetermined, like 2/3 of his clips are like “I have no idea what he’ll do next, I’m not sure he does either, and he might die.”

C

Overrated: high fashion in skateboarding Correctly rated: sugar free redbull Underrated: drakes new album 😳 Idk that’s all I have at the moment

Zach N

I agree about the fact that he probably wasn't underrated back then. However i am not talking about 20+ years ago. I am talking about today. The Epicly Laterd episode was made when he was still on Lakai and was pro for Chocolate if i remember correctly and if you've seen that documentary you would know that there is no mention of him loosing his sponsors in that whatsoever... There is a short Jenkem interview where he talks about i vaguely af. If you want to read about the situation there is a long article/interview where he tells his side of the story. If his story is true Converse basically kicked him off but kept selling his pro shoe for years lmao.

Adam

Dan Corrigan over rated in the park. Underrated in these streets.

sillybilly

Hopping fences are overrated for broberry erry

sillybilly

That’s a little vague, many tattoo styles are overrated but there’s some cool pieces out there

Luke Ansell

tattoos = overrated

trevor larenz

Alain Goikoetxea

aallen

5050 shuvs overrated stop

JJ

shawn powers underrated as FUCK

apachetakedown

Prod, correctly rated.

Prod’sBurner

Just thought I’d put this here because you might see it, I ordered from the bandit just to test the waters… paid a month ago and haven’t received tracking yet. The BBB is truly underrated in his criminality.

sam

Sean Pablo overrated

Lit Man

Corey glick

Kaden

Even during his bunt interview they said he was the most popular skater between suffer the joy and and now but I won’t stop you for wanting to feel special for also liking nick trapasso. He is the best.

John Philips

Adam Dyet underrated

Dylan Roeder

Conical Fulls correctly rated, maybe a tad overrated

Victoria

Polar as a company beyond big boys is underrated. Their team, videos, boards, overall brand image is really fucking great but it gets overshadowed by their pants

Aiden S

Eniz Fazliov underrated

Jayme

ishods style overrated

Leo Isaac

pangea jeans

Leo Isaac

Logan Lara as a skater in front of the camera is also very underrated

Jawn Shanahan

Max Garçon: severely underrated

Jawn Shanahan

Underrated: Keegan McCutchen @kegstan

geezer

Underrated: Jon Dickson, Chico Brenes, Nintendo Switch

Garrett G

overrated — trae the tank (dont care if he's 12) underrated — stephen lawyer, dude has a wierd style that pretty cool

bby.sk8

Does

Samuel

Mike Berdis I feel like is underrated in a way that no one else that cringe gets off the hook like he did

Samuel

Under rated: neen williams, t funk, Chris haslam

Frontside shitslide

this patreon

Jayme

joa field is a pretty underrated skater imo

wolfman1347

Chris Milic: I would say underrated but maybe with this new Last Resort part he’ll be more hyped. All his footage from the past 5-6 years have been insane but at least in my circle I very rarely hear people talk about him when they talk about their favorite skater. I think it’s because his kinda goofy disposition but the skating itself is absolutely bonkers.

Kevin Yue

Overrated - switch frontside flips

chris m

Still under rated dude

QogDotZip

He won an award one year for most googled skater during his peek and has had pro models on cons and toy machine so idk about underrated. He hasn’t put anything out for a while so i understand why people don’t really care about him rn.

John Philips

Underrated: family guy

Gus

Mob grip is overrated. There is no need for that much grip in my opinion

Iloveakon

I feel like a lot of nyc skaters have a shitty attitude when doing interviews but if their skating is good i don’t really care

John Philips

Under rated: Aaron Yant, Aaron Loreth, Dane Barker, Jay Pitser Over rated: Kyota

centar_rick

I see what you are saying but i don’t think a non trendy brand would pick up someone like him.

John Philips

i fux w the pabs

centar_rick

Yeah the oski documentary (to be fair i havent watched it but why would i) seemed kind of kook to me. Dudes like 24, too young/ not prolific enough to have a doc made about him

centar_rick

Skater XL is overrated

John Philips

🥱

John Philips

Half of what we see now has stemmed from bobby puleo's approach to skating, including pappalardos switch up in the mid 2000's

centar_rick

over rated, sick skater but dude has filmed like 2 tailsides and 10 phat ollies and threw the towel in

centar_rick

Snowboard swag

Keegan Estes

Arby's kinda rips under rated

Adam redling

I feel like I’m losing my mind while trying to come up with a take for this prompt lol

Alexander Cantu

Overrated: The Midler drip

Georg Trautmann

Underrated/Unknown: videos Worble III & ERG - Manãna, styles Chris Mango Milic, Peter Raffin & Nik Stain, skills Eetu Toropainen. Overrated: Nakels rap music

Joonatan

Javier Sarmiento. Watch his the firm can’t stop part. He stomps every trick with such confidence. Kickflip bs nose blunt on the hubba first try.

aallen

underrated: your mom jokes

Cody Randolph

I wouldn’t say pops is underrated, I’d say he’s correctly rated. He had a pro shoe for converse and lots of pro boards on alien workshop so it’s not like people were sleeping on him. He had an epicly later’d about why he lost his sponsors.

John Philips

Underrated: Patrick O‘Mara (kid from the violet promo), Kyle Wilson

Georg Trautmann

having a full-time job where you have to report to someone (boss/supervisor/someone in management)

Haruka

I’m referring less so to white dudes with dreads or that are appropriating their culture and more so to the kinda odd style/trick selection some of those people and other associated skaters have/had. Ipath was a great brand in its time(that promo from 2005 is great). Sometimes the “Rasta” skating gets a bit weird and gimmicky with the likes of Tony Cox and other times you get Adelmo and Karl Watson. See also: Matt Rodriguez

Cole Park

I properly started stretching before skating a few months back and I feel so much more comfortable on my board

zacho

Correctly rated: Kader

kyle mclaughlan

i think just taking care of yourself in general is pretty hot if you don't make it a personality trait or act better than others

matt

physical activity besides just skateboarding to stay in shape for skating is underrated. i really like bouldering and gym climbing cos it helps my wrist pain/ankles etc and also riding my bike keeps all my joints going. I think there was a greco clip where he says proudly "i dont stretch" and then there's some haggard ass clip of him taking off his thin vulcanized shoes looking all bloody and decrepit and it always bothered me. that mentality at least.

matt

Front crooks are overrated

Tom

underrated lambor gino

o_0chris

Skateboarding is overrated and other extreme sports are underrated. This is due to other sports continuing to be underground and being able to interact with street objects in different ways, and skateboarding being more easily marketable. I think there are other reasons skateboarding is the most popular extreme sport, but I can't name them at the moment. Also, A lot of the things we complain about online about skateboarding isn't in other sports. I'm sure you can add something interesting to this topic, Joa.

austin

Antonio durao underrated

Matt Picard

Karl Berglind rips imo

Gabriel Snyder

Elephants

Gabriel Snyder

Magnus Bordewick imo correctly rated by public opinion, underrated by the fact seemingly no board sponsor wants him after Numbers collapsed

bongaz

Accurately rated imo

Harry McKee

Democracy

Harry McKee

overrated: deedz absolutely, his skill is overlooked by his style, despite the fact that he is very talented he is a trendy skater. underrated(under appreciated): free skate mag, krazy frankie

englishbloke

Underrated: regular fit/kinda loose fit pants after watching nick rios in Alvs angles

zacho

Underrated Foot plants into grinds Popping into curb tricks Frontside heelflips Overrated Flatground in general

Benjamin Saunders

Him being white doesn’t change anything lol. Also he probably wasn’t paid the most then as he is kinda under the radar

zacho

You should talk about Tiago and how correctly rated he is I was so surprised that you liked his part in the primitive video but also not surprised at all because Tiago is the best

Tug McClung

Free balling is underrated

Ryan Kewley

underrated: nilssino (from ratz milan crew), overrated: regular big spin

Beck Trebesch

Liking everything in skating is overrated. I’m looking at you NineClub and vlogers. More trash talking is good

Simon Coderey

under rated- ritchie jackson

spidermanthevideogame

Overrated: Heitor, vans half cabs (gross shoe), fs 5050 bs 180 out Underrated: Morgan Smith’s ‘The Blind Video’ part

nollieheelnoseslide

that little rat thingy u attached is underrated for sure

stefanmaybe

Nick Trapasso is under rated

QogDotZip

Overrated- big boys, big pants, dunks/ dunk hype/ arcteryx/ fashion in skateboarding in general/ graphic tees/Cyrus Bennett (he did some slap interview and had the weirdest shitty attitude and he was talking about how he was pissed off nyc was getting gentrified but he’s literally a fucking white dude who’s a pro skater lol)/ pros in general/ being the funny guy on Instagram/ Instagram Underrated: Australian company’s (hoddle, private joy(rip)/blank clothing/ hobbies that aren’t skating/ shitting/ riser pads/ free balling/ sunscreen/ steel cap boots at work/ Hayden burns

Bailey Riggs

Myles underwood is an underrated style god better fits than trung

nabye.y

Overrated: big boys, robert neal, ishod cause hes seems like he's not pushing himself that much. Underrated: bobby de keyzer, keegan mccutche, ibou sanyang in the us

Fabio-E. Mesarosch

people shun the hot boy sean pablo just cos he only has a few tricks, but imo all the tricks he does are either hard af or look cool, i think if he didnt ride the trendy brands people wouldn't give him as much shit what do u guys think? i am biased of course dont roast me i am sensitive and will cry

brad

Evisen is just Magenta in Japan

Simon Coderey

Rasta as a whole thing in society is overrated so much. Especially when the person is white

Simon Coderey

Oski is cool but kinda overrated. I mean it’s freaking transition who cares. Vincent Alvarez was overrated for a long time. Now he’s just not here anymore which is nice Bobby de Keyzer is so underrated. People just like trashing him as too good to be interesting but man his skating is gorgeous. Quasi is kinda underrated as a brand and a team. WKND as well. Violet and that new supreme squad is overrated. Auguste has the worst style.

Simon Coderey

willy santos/colin mckay/scott kane underrated (at least in todays scope), theotis beasley/leticia overrated

cane

Spitfire and bones

Anthony

Baggy pants- overrated. Half cabs- overrated. Ride on grinds and wallies- cool but overrated Emo/metal/tough guy music in edits-overrated RASTA skaters- a heavily underrated subgenre

Cole Park

Also I think Bobby dekeyzer deserves more attention. He is my many king and also the most ideal ledge skater in my opinion I love his selection and style. Not extremely creative but very nice with the board. His parts are all “try not to be satisfied (100% will fail) challenge” compilations.

Samuel

Ted Barrow, kind of a douche

Parker Gross

Idk if anyone cares a ton about Casper Brooker but his part “cathedral” was so insanely good and I feel it somewhat flew under the radar…

Samuel

ANTHONY PAPPALARDO. Severely underrated. There is much to be said in terms of his influence on skating. Seems like what he was doing back in like 2006? was underapreciated to the point of him being dropped by his sponsors at the time. Fast forward and his stuff kind of shines through in todays skate-zeitgeist. Im thinking in terms of trick selection, style, clothes etc… There is lots more to it but let me not write a book in these comments rn lol

Adam

Jenkem

Parker Gross

Mark Suciu and Max Palmer, if they were siamese twins.

beatrice_fs_overcrook

Skater XL On Console Dan Corrigans YouTube Channel

Jesse Bungalows

Trevor Thompson Polar Mark Gonzalez

Karl Havoc

SF tricks to hillbombs - overrated as fuck

Oscar Eliasson

You don’t wanna talk about switch mongo?

1

Casper Brooker Chad Muskas art Tom Knox Stüssy Smash Bros Ultimate My mum Palace Skateboards London

CarharttFinalBoss

🤯

Karl Havoc

gifted hater

switchmongoiscorny

TYLER BLEDSOE. Underrated.

Adam

Evisen is an underrated company

Luke Ansell

sage elsesser

nate

Overrated.

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TONY HAWK

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