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Bro there’s so many girls who shred and put more shit out than Beatrice. This like been known I thought?! I’m surprised people defend her so tough when it’s clear she’s coasting on her identity relative to the general audience. Always felt bad for her that they stuck her in that spotlight without a better foundation :( like I don’t even blame her I blame vans. I hope she drops a fire part
Jules
2023-05-22 22:13:50 +0000 UTCIt’s all good dude, you’re the Shane Gillis of skateboarding now
largemouthsxXnearxXyou
2023-05-07 12:30:03 +0000 UTCUna just went pro for Krooked! Now that is a deserving pro lady
Kyle McCluskey
2023-05-01 17:36:21 +0000 UTCIf you’re referring to me, that’s a different Allen, going by Alan. I have the correct spelling of the name but he has the moderator privilege.
Allen Dillard
2023-04-30 04:12:11 +0000 UTCWeird, since you are a mod on SLAP and have a diff opinion irl. I've seen plenty of ppl share their opinions and have zero issues or be called racist or misogynistic.
Slept
2023-04-30 03:49:11 +0000 UTCI hope you respond to the latest supreme post they're rubbing it in our faces after you said you won't critique BD anymore. Her and strobeck deserve to be called out.
Slept
2023-04-30 03:46:53 +0000 UTChe took it it isnt unedited though
stefanmaybe
2023-04-27 14:16:46 +0000 UTCI really like this photo, I hope this is unedited and you took dis
Aidan Crowley
2023-04-23 06:37:08 +0000 UTCMax from dime/baker
Mike hawk
2023-04-22 03:56:28 +0000 UTCGabe Thompson, specifically circa-2022
Mike hawk
2023-04-22 03:50:52 +0000 UTCMan, Joa really is the Destiny of skateboarding.
Ryan
2023-04-21 12:42:01 +0000 UTCin case you wanna not skate in skate 4
Coinstar
2023-04-21 08:44:41 +0000 UTCCan you watch/talk about the skate 4 update vid on stream they’ve got parkour in the game for some reason
dylan lewis
2023-04-21 05:11:14 +0000 UTCPlease post a vod
dylan lewis
2023-04-21 04:22:29 +0000 UTCAlso worth noting that Beatrice going pro after doing so little is a slap in the face to so many deserving woman skaters (and black woman skaters) who are actually in the streets putting their blood, sweat, and tears getting clips, who will never get the same recognition she has.
Willo
2023-04-20 22:42:22 +0000 UTCanyways i could probably write all day about this and still not make a coherent point but i gotta go the work days over haha
James Scherer
2023-04-20 22:11:12 +0000 UTCAll good points and food for thought - I would zero in on the phrase "de facto" you used and challenge it. I mean there's no doubt there was a time when albums were the de facto product of music - the technology at the time and how the industry was set up made it in effect THE product an artist was making. I would not say that the album is "in effect" the product of our current time but that its more of a holdover from a previous time - the conditions of our current time do not make albums inherently important the way the conditions of a prior time did. We might be living in the early days of the next "de facto" product of music but we don't know it yet. I think the full length skate video had it's moment in the sun the way that albums did as the true blue de facto product of it's realm - but it's easy to say that looking back on it. I'm not sure it was as obvious during the time, as I'm not sure it's obvious to know what is the de facto product of our time. There are also funny similarities in the terms. Now we associate album with music but the term used to just mean a book for collecting things (like a photo album). Before LPs record labels would sell a book full of records as one product called a record album. When the LP came around it was marketed as having a whole album on one disc - hence the name album stuck around but the word album itself is merely referring to a collection. Same way the word part is merely referring to a segment and its a shortened way of saying "part of a skate video". The way these phrases are even created it would seem to imply the records are the quintessential product of music that can or cannot be compiled into an album, and similarly a skate video is the quintessential product of skateboarding that can or cannot be split into parts.
James Scherer
2023-04-20 22:10:34 +0000 UTCReal shit
Danny Banegas
2023-04-20 16:06:31 +0000 UTCTwitter is bullshit, it’s a place where garbage people who have never had an original political (or just in general) thought gather to feel important and valuable. Anyone who is thoughtful understands that your content is actually substantive and you’re not just some asshole on the internet. I think reacting to and justifying yourself to morons on twitter is a waste of time and only mildly valuable in context, which to be fair most of the time you do start out doing but lately I think you’ve been like addressing this kind of stuff at too high of a level resulting in tangents which takes over the whole video and makes shit worse haha.
Danny Banegas
2023-04-20 16:04:15 +0000 UTCIf the skate industry is serious about improving representation, they would make an effort to just include more footage of women skating in their videos. Just get it out there. I do think some companies are, but other just see the dollar signs and don’t care about real substantive representation within the culture
Roman Quick
2023-04-20 02:37:14 +0000 UTCQuasi vid status?
Jack
2023-04-20 02:34:56 +0000 UTCI wrote a paper last term on gender quotas on ballots to increase women’s representation in politics. I see skateboarding similarly. I think alternate recruitment tactics are somewhat necessary to boost the supply demand problem, but you would still want a politician to have appealing credentials, and you would still want a pro skater to film skating.
Roman Quick
2023-04-20 02:34:33 +0000 UTCI think that the fact that women haven’t been represented in skate videos in the past, it makes the significance of video parts less valid to women skaters who are looking for role models. I still think that Beatrice should have a video part because I want everyone to be included in the culture. Ultimately like you said this is on dill and vans, not the critics or supporters
Roman Quick
2023-04-20 02:20:28 +0000 UTCI’m hanging out for another vod
dylan lewis
2023-04-19 22:48:45 +0000 UTCYou should review this video from my town on stream. If it’s too long skip to 20 minutes in https://vimeo.com/815167314
Kenneth Copeland
2023-04-19 22:41:51 +0000 UTCall good! replying on Patreon doesn't make any sense haha and it's good to see someone legitimately want to have a nuanced conversation for once. I see your point there. I guess to push back I will say that while casual/consumer level enjoyment of musicians has definitely moved away from albums and more towards streaming and playlists, as I said in my earlier reply, any music "nerds" still follow albums as the de facto standard for music releases. The industry has been modeled around releasing albums, fans expect to receive albums in entirety rather than piece by piece (other than singles), and artists expect to an album release period where they tease, drop a few singles, and then eventually release the full album. Full time music reviewers aren't reviewing playlists.... they're reviewing albums. In the same way, video parts are the de facto "product" of skateboarders, the industry is built around it, Thrasher posts video parts all the time and they get hundreds of thousands of views. Yes, its arbitrary, but video parts have remained the main product of skateboarders for a while now and so at this point they have become the standard. They also have a barrier of entry in the amount of effort that needs to be put in, so whether someone released a good or bad part its usually very evident that they put time, money, sweat, and tears into it. The way an album is put together, the technical/business side of releasing an album, all of those things give you an idea of who this musician you are listening to is. There's a reason it has worked and continued working so long - it gives musicians a medium to put together months/years of artistry into one cohesive package. And I believe the same can be said about parts, even if they were arbitrarily selected as the standard product of a skateboarder, there's good reasons why they have remained as such for so long. And I don't believe the standardization of parts would (or imo should) change any time soon even with the influx of IG and TikTok videos etc, because I don't believe that those videos accurately display a skater's skills, artistry, and effort in the same way as a video part does. Imo even a poorly edited youtube part is miles above a skate park clip on IG in terms of displaying the skater's "craft".
Barish A
2023-04-19 22:24:37 +0000 UTCThe woke mob strikes again.
Cold Ass Whiteboy
2023-04-19 22:21:39 +0000 UTCThat last vod could end my career
1
2023-04-19 21:30:44 +0000 UTCwhere are the vods? :(
seppuku
2023-04-19 21:28:32 +0000 UTCyo that was a reply to Luke not to you. your response was the type of discussion that I thought would be cool to have. I think the album analogy is perfect actually because the importance of albums is way less than it used to be as a result of changing technology. First cassettes allowed kids to make mixtapes, CDs let listeners skip to specific songs, mp3s let users make their own playlists, streaming let users discover music via algorithm or playlists and at each step the importance of having a good complete coherent album became less and less. I mean you can choose to say albums are more important than anything, or that parts are more important than anything, but unless you have a reason for it then you're just kinda planting your flag in the past and letting the world pass you by, just like the old heads who say video doesn't matter and your legacy in skateboarding is your photos.
James Scherer
2023-04-19 20:42:30 +0000 UTCI'm saying if his argument is going to put so much importance on parts over all other types of footage and coverage or whatever else goes along with being pro, it's worth maybe a smidge of discussion. especially since we use the term "part" to refer to things that are whole on their own and not intended to be part of anything, obviously you're not going to nail down a set definiton but it would be an interesting conversation
James Scherer
2023-04-19 20:21:35 +0000 UTCA part is a "complete" edited and produced project. It takes time and effort to create lines, get clips, edit, and put them all together in a visually pleasing video format with appropriate music and b roll and everything. Often parts have some kind of theme that runs through the entire video too. An instagram clip can be created in the time it takes to record one line and upload it, it doesn't have the production value expected of a video part. Which is fine, but they don't represent the artistic value of the skater like a part does. Here's an analogy. We expect musicians to drop albums full of several tracks, all cohesively (in one way or another) put together to deliver a full "project". Generally, music fans (read: not casual listeners) judge artists on their albums. Most music reviewers review entire albums. Sure they will review individual tracks as well, but the focus is on full album projects. In the same way, someone who only posts half finished WIP tracks from their FL Studio onto their IG and posts nothing else is not going to be seen anywhere as legitimate as someone who has dropped multiple full projects whether released through a record label or self released through bandcamp or something. They are still a legitimate musician, of course, but they don't have the credibility that someone who has albums under their belt does.
Barish A
2023-04-19 19:40:59 +0000 UTCtwitter views are so inflated and basically bots. if you ever look at analytics they count EVERYTHING even if your tweet get scrolled by and not looked at
ronnie
2023-04-19 00:08:32 +0000 UTCJanecum dude is a straight up dork.
Jimbo
2023-04-18 22:38:11 +0000 UTCI hope you understand the difference
Coinstar
2023-04-18 19:53:52 +0000 UTCShe’s cool af too. Deserves all the recognition
JaySLim
2023-04-18 18:53:44 +0000 UTCLook her up on YouTube. Never heard of her ? She was on the Olympic team
JaySLim
2023-04-18 18:53:18 +0000 UTCIt’s so silly you have to explain all this. People are idiots Joa. Love you dude. Keep trucking bud
dane munoz
2023-04-18 15:54:38 +0000 UTCI think the most important thing you said that you need to go into more is saying video parts are the medium of street skateboarding. It does seem a bit arbitrary. You say a part is your legacy because people can go watch them and see what you left, or they influence the skate culture in one way or another - but both of those things can and do apply to social media posts. The real difference between social media posts and video parts of the past is that there's a view counter and a comment box and a share button or that i can be oriented vertically - but now parts are posted online with all of that too. Hell we call them "parts" because they used to be part of a full length, and it's even harder to defend the relevance of full lengths nowadays
James Scherer
2023-04-18 15:45:29 +0000 UTCI think a lot of these folks are bold and contentious and confident online because they are reserved and nice IRL and the internet is just their pressure release valve
James Scherer
2023-04-18 14:53:49 +0000 UTCShe’s really sick!
Rama
2023-04-18 12:44:01 +0000 UTCNever heard of her, but I'll check her out on youtube. Any specific parts you recommend?
Rajeev
2023-04-18 12:39:19 +0000 UTCyou can strike the 're-'
Shredsi
2023-04-18 12:17:37 +0000 UTCNew issue everyone janecum upset our boy skate theorist
dylan lewis
2023-04-18 06:32:57 +0000 UTCi think this is just the internet being stupid dude, keep doing the best you can and im here for the ride
humanbeing2002
2023-04-18 01:54:15 +0000 UTCthe people using the sis het rhetoric are silly, the people complaining about cancel culture and wokeness are equally silly. most people are normal and in the middle. you put out good content man, don’t let the internet poison you.
Treppy
2023-04-18 01:12:28 +0000 UTCGood stee
Coinstar
2023-04-18 00:17:46 +0000 UTCNon ironic compliment I hope
Coinstar
2023-04-18 00:17:02 +0000 UTCThis shit is boring, but I love that you go through the entire process when explaining yourself. You've covered all the bases, even tho it was a pain in your little ass. Just want you to know I'd follow you into the mists of Avalon. Also, you should livestream a viewing of the motion picture "Grind"... or "Small Soldiers". ThanksJoepa
Brent Yo Endo
2023-04-17 23:47:57 +0000 UTCnot taking anything from anyone but I grew up skating with SAMARRIA BREVARD and shes a beast. She was pretty much better than everyone at the park. Well besides forrest edwards and tre williams. Good videos parts and amazing style! Mari the goat
JaySLim
2023-04-17 23:20:14 +0000 UTCBasically that comment is saying "no matter what you say or how you say it or how educated or nuanced you are you will be seen as X". Well if so, then why should he care anymore? If you cannot do anything to legitimize you views in a scenario like this, you would probably just stop caring about proving yourself eventually.
Barish A
2023-04-17 21:33:12 +0000 UTCyeah thats the thing about all these people pointing out how he criticized tyshawn and now beatrice and it's a bad look or whatever. My dude's been shitting on plenty of white people for years based mostly on their skating or something related to skate culture like fashion.
Barish A
2023-04-17 21:31:42 +0000 UTCthis world is crazy. love what you do joa. it makes me happy to see you speak your mind
Lucy Grey
2023-04-17 21:17:48 +0000 UTCThe idea that simply looking to "history" will make it obvious that we should give deference to perspectives of racial minorities is hilarious to me. Do these people know who Clarence Thomas is? Really good article written by a friend of mine on what's wrong with the idea of deferring to people of specific identity groups https://www.thephilosopher1923.org/post/being-in-the-room-privilege-elite-capture-and-epistemic-deference
Donny Toothpicks
2023-04-17 20:50:01 +0000 UTC"I don't think any explanation is going to take away the racial and gender dynamic that is being reproduced by you. You are positioning yourself as a cishet white male gatekeeper and Beatrice is a black woman" This comment sounds like it was written by someone who took a single sociology course and paid no attention to any of the details but took away the idea of privilege and just ran with it
Donny Toothpicks
2023-04-17 20:43:17 +0000 UTCfeel like you call bs on everyone not just beatrice so this whole thing is sort of inconsequential because its as simple as do you actually skate and have a part/parts to contribute to the world. thats the standard for everyone no matter how you look thats just skateboarding
Jack The Human
2023-04-17 20:32:40 +0000 UTCHey sorry you felt overwhelmed wasn’t trying to attack, wanted to keep it as civil as I could with you all while just saying what I felt. But maybe reading patreon comments isn’t the way to go
1
2023-04-17 20:16:07 +0000 UTCVitoria Mendonca is a great example of a black female skater earning industry presence the traditional way. Recently put out a Thrasher part (her ender is heelflip crook an out ledge) and had a section in Element ESP2. If she turned pro it would make sense.
Crooknollieflip
2023-04-17 19:42:14 +0000 UTCI absolutely loved this, and I swear I love Joa more and more anytime he speaks on anything, particularly this. Just keep it up bro, you are the antidote.
Rama
2023-04-17 19:37:35 +0000 UTCSo you are looking to re-educate Joa? 😂 good luck, although I think he’s too based to become an ideologue.
Rama
2023-04-17 19:29:11 +0000 UTCIdk people like the YouTube player, I’ll just accept that people will share videos for now
1
2023-04-17 19:03:08 +0000 UTCJust remember that the internet is not a reflection of real life. The people you spend your time with and who know you well can attest to the person you really are. No matter what you say on here, someone is going to have an issue. It’s impossible to have an opinion on anything without it being completely taken out of context and politicized to no end. This is about skateboarding and how you yourself see skateboarding and that’s 100% okay. Just take some time for yourself and step away for a bit. This is not something that you or anyone should be directing THAT much energy towards. 🫡
Jimbo
2023-04-17 19:01:12 +0000 UTCI thought that at the beginning of this mp3: maybe a problem with the public discourse is that your non-public platforms (on here and on stream) aren't so non-public anymore. Like those guys going at you for 'being overfocused on beatrice' probably all share one subscription on here and snitch links to each other. that's why the public YT vid isn't the first time they've heard about this. It sucks for the rest of us because the player is a pos but maybe it's time to do native uploads to patreon...
Shredsi
2023-04-17 18:53:04 +0000 UTCДа
Shredsi
2023-04-17 18:49:08 +0000 UTCSomeone linked it to slap I have to make a new one
1
2023-04-17 18:45:35 +0000 UTCwow you're really the Sam Harris of skateboarding
Danny s
2023-04-17 18:42:09 +0000 UTCRyan Lay's a comrade?
Prang Fandango
2023-04-17 17:13:48 +0000 UTCI think you did cover the race issue on a deeper level like that one comment levied. Also I’m a “woke”(progressive) college student and I enjoyed the video and didn’t see anything controversial so man these people must be deep down the rabbit hole
Dustin Alicea
2023-04-17 15:28:20 +0000 UTCI think we need a patreon only video where joa is bootcamped in the difference between liberalism / ID Politics vs. left / socialism - ideally mentored by somebody other than a straight white male but if all else fails, ryan lay will do. you're right that it's easy for people to ciriticize / be more eloquent than you in the comments when you just go off cuff on stream, but I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that you could benefit strongly from learning that distinction.
Shredsi
2023-04-17 15:03:21 +0000 UTCglad i'm not alone with that.
Shredsi
2023-04-17 14:59:36 +0000 UTC♥ i hope he reads this
Shredsi
2023-04-17 14:59:00 +0000 UTCamen amen amen. although good luck throwing a 130 signs (or whatever the limit is over there who fucking cares) summary of class consciousness at those skatetwitter dimwits and expecting them to understand one single bit. but yes, we need to level Joa up with some systemic knowledge so he can achieve his true Saiyajin form.
Shredsi
2023-04-17 14:56:41 +0000 UTCespecially when none of this is about being 'left' grrrrnnrrrr I'm about to pop a hemmorrhoid over here.
Shredsi
2023-04-17 14:53:09 +0000 UTCyes to lucas. can we please all understand the difference between A) identity politics neoliberal bullshit virtue-signaling fuckery like what the pea-brains on Slap or SkateTwitter are doing and B) LEFT political thinking that transcends identity markers and looks at the world purely through these two metrics: who has power and who suffers - who exploits and who is exploited. A) is what Joa and most of y'all are rightfully angry about but B) is what you're calling it and it's fucking infuriating.
Shredsi
2023-04-17 14:50:17 +0000 UTCI once saw a Twitter thread where someone joked that a pro didn't count as a PoC because their skating was boring and they're a less "cool" pro. I was surprised at how many people clapped like seals over it, including some of the people patting themselves on the back for how "progressive" they are. I am very left leaning, but it's hard for me to take some of these users in good faith over how inconsistent they are. Obviously not all of them, but I can't shake the feeling that a considerable amount of them care more about being "right" than they do about actually being a forward thinking person. Even apolitically I don't find a lot of them to be as nice as they like to think they are. I remember a lot of skatetwitter users creating a huge stink over people posting their own footage because it "ruined the discourse", but it turns out they were just bullying one guy who happened to be better at skating than them. Idk, I'm a twitter user too, but the vibe rubs me the wrong way even when I don't disagree with them. Hope this word vomit isn't too ramble-y cuz this is the only place I'm seeing this talked about, haha.
pizzafliptofakie
2023-04-17 14:22:35 +0000 UTCSo the vod staying private?
Bell
2023-04-17 13:54:05 +0000 UTCelon owns twitter
fml
2023-04-17 12:15:11 +0000 UTCI think ur problem is that u own Twitter I have never gotten it because it just makes me mad
Russell Vernon
2023-04-17 11:51:22 +0000 UTCBoring ah audio
Berra Hater
2023-04-17 09:42:08 +0000 UTCas a socialist literally none of this cultural shit has anything to do with our relationship to the means of production and these terminally online freaks policing jokes and ousting people over edgy takes pushes people away from our ideology
Jake Lewis
2023-04-17 09:28:09 +0000 UTCSafe lad only point of criticism would be please stop using left & liberal interchangeably. It makes me want to scream every time, fanx xox
Prang Fandango
2023-04-17 08:22:34 +0000 UTCthere's a real smugness about the skate twitter community... its enjoyable seeing them be so clearly wrong about this lol
Conor
2023-04-17 07:47:33 +0000 UTCWe’d all get some good laughs out of a “ inactive pro” / “low productivity pro tier list. Pick one from every”major brand “. S is for whoever has been milking it the longest with the least output and the most evidence incriminating evidence on social media.
Mathieu deSchutter
2023-04-17 06:45:56 +0000 UTCOh, and full disclosure, I did say that I thought you were punching down last week, but that was about the Steezus video, not anything about Beatrice. I think they’re in totally different leagues and that you’ve done a good job talking about her.
Caro
2023-04-17 06:23:59 +0000 UTCSo, it sounds like you’ve had a shitty few days and that straight up sucks. Please remember to step away from the computer and skateboarding and not let it suck you into the bad place. As a woman, and a staunchly leftist one at that, I’m pretty comfortable saying that your coverage of sensitive topics has actually been really good. I’ve been consistently impressed with how carefully considered your positions have been and how hard you try to balance inclusiveness with staying true to core values. I first checked out your YouTube videos in a spirit of dubiousness, because of your name, but you quickly won me over specifically because you try so hard to counter toxic positivity with actual thoughtful critique. So, yeah. You do a really good job, and I really appreciate you. It sounds like you could stand to hear that today from someone like me, so there you go.
Caro
2023-04-17 06:08:54 +0000 UTCAlso, might be a good idea to put it out on the main, public feed. I feel like you don’t always come across as thoughtful as you are in the vids you choose to put out on the tube.
Klint Yearout
2023-04-17 04:34:47 +0000 UTCWell-handled.
Klint Yearout
2023-04-17 04:24:48 +0000 UTCLove you GH don’t let the haters get you down mate.
Sage
2023-04-17 03:59:04 +0000 UTCalso lakers in 6
Tyson Tran
2023-04-17 03:57:36 +0000 UTCI agree with the punching down thing you were talking about. Totally unfair to not be able to criticize something in a scene/community youre apart of bc of your status. With that mindset, Inside the NBA, is awful for the community (it has its moments of poor contributions too) but that show is received positively. They can criticize and make jokes about their field but someone in your shoes cant bc it's punching down is questionable and spreading bad vibes and racist/sexist. Shaq did shaqtin a fool for so many years (except the javale situation) and wasnt ostracized for it, even then, shaq only got called a bully. Not met with insane buzzword accusations. Ik skateboarding and basketball are two whole different things, but cmon now.
Tyson Tran
2023-04-17 03:55:30 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/WChQGYSIjt0
Frontside shitslide
2023-04-17 03:20:50 +0000 UTCAfter listening to some of this audio, one thing I noticed is there are people jumping in to defend Beatrice but they’re not considering that she’s being exploited by these huge companies so they can make themselves look progressive. They’re not sponsoring her because she’s good at skating. Part of me suspects that they’re sponsoring her because they’re afraid. I suspect she either has dirt on someone, or she’s playing the sex and/or race card and winning.
jay
2023-04-17 03:09:48 +0000 UTCWhat happened?
jay
2023-04-17 02:54:59 +0000 UTCBack to the regular programming of ride on grinds and emo music fantastic
dylan lewis
2023-04-17 01:50:17 +0000 UTCultimately, black women will not achieve liberation through monopoly capitalism. Corporations love to use identity politics in their rhetoric and typical and uneducated liberals that can't deal with their own issues of systemic racism like to shut down discourse in order to stifle any accountability from their part. Either way, Beatrice skating for corporations like vans and supreme, (companies that use unethical foreign labour, lets not begin on those ethical issues) will not lift black women out of poverty, it will not address any material conditions that capitalism has created and will use in order to rebrand their historical treatment of these marginalized groups. I find it really ridiculous to complain about Joa being racist or problematic when there is tangible evidence of people that are intentionally being racist and problematic and profiting off of it, instead of maybe not being as sensitive as some would like in the discourse. Addressing things from a systemic perspective instead of individualism might be better in avoiding this type of backlash
Lucas
2023-04-17 01:49:24 +0000 UTCI can promise you that is not going to happen, we will be discussing early grabs for the next month
1
2023-04-17 01:19:37 +0000 UTCI hope people can be mature enough to not turn this platform into the same left vs right bullshit that’s everywhere else on the internet
dylan lewis
2023-04-17 01:18:48 +0000 UTCWould love to see a weekly punching down segment. It could be really fun for everyone I think
Skatepark Reality
2023-04-17 01:13:19 +0000 UTCDelete Twitter
Bluntslideofdoom
2023-04-17 01:02:38 +0000 UTCI think its more liberal identity politics, which is funny because it kinda defeats the meritocracy argument, if were turning people pro based off of their identity as opposed to skill and effort
Lucas
2023-04-17 00:34:35 +0000 UTCLoved reading this comment, great points man
Jimi Wilson
2023-04-17 00:22:01 +0000 UTCI think the strangest thing about this whole discussion is like... Beatrice could literally just film a part? like its not like she's some up and comer anymore. she's been around for a while now and she has the support of all these brands and pros. it just seems like such an attainable thing. people are acting like Joa is asking for something so inaccessible and trying to put up insane barriers for her but it doesnt seem that way to me at all.
Finn
2023-04-17 00:16:05 +0000 UTCNeed subway surfers gameplay
Undagroundmane
2023-04-16 23:53:20 +0000 UTCxd
Didrik Høyum-Thomasen
2023-04-16 23:45:33 +0000 UTCjust dont use twitter
Didrik Høyum-Thomasen
2023-04-16 23:34:23 +0000 UTCalso I hate memphis so go Lakers
Jordan
2023-04-16 22:29:58 +0000 UTCOh please
1
2023-04-16 22:07:31 +0000 UTCcongrats the Lakers win, though you'd be a lot cooler if you were a Kings fan...or even Clippers...
Jordan
2023-04-16 22:06:35 +0000 UTCThat board is sick + empowering. Saying this as an Asian man who lived in the south
Thomas Laprade
2023-04-16 22:05:59 +0000 UTCMannn oh mannn ppl was just waiting for the first opportunity to start cancel my boy… Keep going Joa
Emil
2023-04-16 21:58:39 +0000 UTCThat’s the problem with a large audience, it facilitates yet another echo chamber. Good luck dealing with it. I think you’re doing a good job of not engaging (generally speaking.) keep it up :)
jamie
2023-04-16 21:45:03 +0000 UTCIt’s absolutely wild to me that people will defend someone going pro without ever putting out a part or even getting sick photos at all. I spent the last of my teens, all of my twenty’s and the first two years of my thirty’s putting myself in debt, taking way too long to finish college and fucking up relationships with significant others because I loved making indie videos with my friends. Everyone who worked on them with me all paid their own way and worked shit jobs and skated hand me down boards and shoes and shit because we wanted to, and nobody involved had skating as a career on their mind. I don’t even want to think about how much money and time I put into something that would never ever pay off for me but we all did it because we fucking loved that shit. I loved being able to show what we made to our community. It’s what skateboarders do. To go pro without even giving enough of a fuck to apparently even try to film a part reads to me like she doesn’t care about skating. I’m sure she does in some way, but I honestly just don’t understand not having the desire to. I’m sure I’ll hear music til the day I die and think “damn someone could skate to this,” or even have delusions of grandeur and think I could. Does she have this thought? Why not make it reality? If she had filmed 2 clips every year she was getting free boards, by now she could have had a part. Its probably stupid sounding but it doesn’t seem like she gives a fuck about the culture of skateboarding. Maybe it’s just an old head take. Also, speeding up a clip is a cardinal sin and that is another thing skateboarding as a whole should not be okay with her doing.
Allen Dillard
2023-04-16 21:43:02 +0000 UTCCan agree on that. I’m definitely on slap and left leaning myself but I’d like to think I have a few brain cells to rub together. A lot of the mods are in some weird cool guy club that is somehow worse than skate twitter in some ways. Speaking of which… About a year ago I got dragged on skate twitter for defending the Baker Don Nyugen/Daniel Shimizu g**ks of hazard board that Shimizu and Nuge came up with and thought was funny and a lot of the user names Joa mentioned are super familiar. If two dudes of Vietnamese decent want to poke fun at their own ethnicity and at an old TV show the way old world boards did, why can’t they? Their response was it was wrong for Reynolds to approve of it and that I’m wrong for saying they can choose whatever graphic they want to have to represent themselves.
Allen Dillard
2023-04-16 21:31:23 +0000 UTCDont't worry so much about what they are saying. you arent racist, you have integrity for skateboarding.
Terry Hamilton
2023-04-16 21:26:57 +0000 UTC😘
Jack McKay
2023-04-16 21:05:11 +0000 UTCNow let’s kiss
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2023-04-16 21:04:32 +0000 UTCLol ^^ Mr jolly up here is case and point
Jack McKay
2023-04-16 21:03:31 +0000 UTCI appreciate your response Joa! I think what you said in the intro was pretty on point. My only real criticism of this entire thing and is that I think the culture war shit takes away from your point and gives people fuel to point fingers. Corporatization, something I think we can all agree on, when framed this way, becomes something more like soyboyification, which I think is just politically divisive and to most people outside of the states is just plain stupid. With that said, don’t let twitter get you down man! I don’t envy you having to be held to what you say on a live stream, and I get my ability to respond gives me a certain advantage. I’ll be more conscious of that, but I’m not tryna put you on blast. Just giving my two sense. ✌️❤️
Jack McKay
2023-04-16 20:56:22 +0000 UTCi have found slap to be insane left, all the mods will block you if u even mention why beatrice is a something the industry wants and is something missing in skateboarding . will call u racist and misoginist
evan jolley
2023-04-16 20:03:54 +0000 UTCthey view beattrice needs this like its reparations . also they are willing t o play dumb and ignore looking at it intellectually , for the benefit (how they see it) for social change.
evan jolley
2023-04-16 20:02:03 +0000 UTCwhy would u say that braille boomer is going hard?
evan jolley
2023-04-16 19:54:50 +0000 UTCi think skateboarding across america pretty interesting but yea lots of filler clips
Aidan Sjoberg
2023-04-16 19:44:33 +0000 UTCI like his challenges but the videos itself are so boring…
Felix K.
2023-04-16 19:43:01 +0000 UTCshout out chad caruso on ur channel hes going hard
Aidan Sjoberg
2023-04-16 19:08:05 +0000 UTCCan someone set up an RSS feed for all these audio posts?
Samuel Coghlan-White
2023-04-16 19:07:00 +0000 UTC
