One Piece Ep 189 Full Reaction!
Added 2024-06-26 05:05:22 +0000 UTC
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You not noticing the wings until they get knocked up into the sky is certified hilarious. They had them the whole time my dude. Why would these totally unrelated groups of people share a common physical characteristic, especially one that seems vestigial in both cases. Neither Skypieans nor the Shandarans are flying, so what's the deal? Makes you think...
Stephen Vaughn
2024-09-28 20:59:43 +0000 UTCI disagree with you, and this is not helpful. If you want a genuine reaction, explaining why you think he is wrong is a far more useful way to spend your time rather than holding your subscription hostage conditional on him having the **right** reaction. He's not an AI. If you just tell him **no actually it's good and you suck** without backing it up, he's just going to either: 1) Stop watching the show and focus on other things. 2) Start giving less genuine reactions based on what he's 'supposed' to think, which is just going to suck all the fun out of the experience.
Stephen Vaughn
2024-09-28 20:52:09 +0000 UTCWhy I'm still subscribing: - You're still young, padawan - You have certified banger takes, when you're actually paying attention and not laughing at your own jokes while not reading the subtitles for the Japanese show when you don't speak the language. - Edit: Just finished your reaction.. THEY HAD WINGS THE ENTIRE TIME!! You're presupposing again. Continue reading please. Noland did mention those trees, and this is unfortunately a translation issue, coupled with you not paying attention (fight me. it's true.) and being unwilling to take a step back and think about what you know about the show, apply some educated logical self consistency to your expectations, or prevent yourself from snowballing off a misinterpretation. I actually have a series of comments on your videos on a lot of the areas where you've had major issues with something. I do hope you go back and read them. **The foreshadowing**: - 'Kinetsu', the name of the plague, literally translates to 'Tree Fever'. - When they arrive on the island, the soldiers who are familiar with the disease say 'This island is done for', in a reference to what happens when the infection spreads and crosses over into humans. - Noland mentioned 'following through' on getting rid of the plague, in reference to cutting down the trees. This was said AFTER everyone was cured. **The actually believable communication**: - The lack of communication on this issue makes sense. On an island full of trees, why would Noland automatically assume that one particular patch had religious significance, or think to mention that it needed to be cut down? - Why should either side realistically have comprehensive knowledge of what the other side is thinking or doing? The crew is clearly sleeping on the ship at night while the villagers stay in the village, and the island is much, much bigger than it looks. (All islands are much bigger than they look, by the way.) - No one has mantra or can read minds. There was no clear opportunity to intercept the crewmembers tasked with cutting down the trees, assuming Noland didn't just go flick his sword a few dozen times to cut them down. - Noland is portrayed as a kind dude who does stuff because he thinks it's right, not because he wants praise. Where is the justification for him to have brought this up? Was he going to make the islanders go chop the trees down themselves? - It makes perfect sense for him to just unilaterally do this, to take care of the sickness and leave the island better than he found it, rather than make the villagers feel more indebted to him and bring up the plague again. Everyone was having fun and happy, wouldn't you do the same thing? - Why would they have taken Noland to the grove and explained it to him in the short time they were there? - "Hey dude, thanks for saving our people, here's our ancient, deeply spiritual site where the souls of the ones you didn't save are. It's been a heck of a ride these past days, and I just wanted to bring you to our most sacred site, seeing as you chopped the head off of one of our gods. Have fun bro!' - Everything about this situation makes perfect sense as a cultural mismatch , and is believably explained by a lack of time to go over the entire culture with Noland and his crew. **On the placement of the flashback**: - Part of the appeal of this show is how much it fleshes out its environments, and they are described as 'living and breathing' by those who analyze fantasy for a living. - You can't have it both ways. This flashback being placed any earlier in the story would have been FAR more exposition-heavy. Any later and it would have had too little impact. On the cliffhanger teaser 'drama': - If you accept the above points this complaint no longer has any legs, because the drama immediately becomes relatable and realistic. Your critical analysis of this is just wrong. Let me be more clear. It's not that I don't agree with your analysis, it is just objectively wrong. If you made sure to catch every subtitle and paid closer attention, this stuff would be obvious and you wouldn't have an unpopular opinion that also happens to be foundationally incorrect in its justification. Plus you'd enjoy the show more, and notice some cool easter eggs, like: - the implication that Laki and Wiper are distantly related given the striking resemblance between Mousse and Laki. - The parallels and contrast between the stories of Noland and Gol D. Roger, two characters who achieved something unbelievable and attempted to tell the world about it to "wildly" different receptions. - that the sacrificial altar in the flashback is the exact same altar that the Merry was stranded on for the half of the arc. - the Shandians mention gods before the island gets blasted to Skypiea. You might even start asking more questions: - WHY they might still have hypodermic needles 400 years ago instead of chalking it up to bad writing. - How does Enel know how to make electric circuits somehow, and how does he have the knowledge of advanced machinery he clearly has. (Enel is smart, but that's a bit of a stretch) - How are Poneglyphs, these ancient indestructible cubes, possible - How COULD all of thismake sense somehow? What other fantasy stories am I familiar with where I end up asking these sorts of questions? Finally, this entire little mini-story is what is known as 'setting the stage'. One piece is a fantasy epic, and having an understanding of the lore is important. I don't mean to say this flashback is only setting the stage for the upcoming fight, I'm actually saying that this flashback is 'setting the stage' for much, MUCH larger things within the story and world that won't fully make sense for a long time. Regardless, the local issues you brought up in the story still don't hold up under objective scrutiny in my opinion. No one is perfect, but I have high expectations given your track record with analyzing this show. The issue is you got too butthurt over the Pell thing, which I have a comment explaining that you should read. You should mull things over a tiny bit more instead of trying for real-time reactions. Otherwise, you end up making silly decisions like victim blaming Nico Robin for a million people that she not only didn't kill or help kill, but weren't even confirmed dead to begin with, while your number is based off of a comparison between a misremembered statistic and a misremembered line. Then you carry that interpretation with you into later episodes and reference it, while those who actually are paying attention have no idea what you're talking about and are questioning their own memory. Love ya buddy. Sorry for the excoriation. Better than this, you are.
Stephen Vaughn
2024-09-28 19:20:04 +0000 UTCNerdy doesn't apprentice Noland's story, I'm not surprised! OP nuance is not strong in this one! 5 bucks down the drain again!
EgregiousGrievous
2024-07-14 09:11:05 +0000 UTCI do this anyways lol
Chloe Root
2024-06-29 15:17:49 +0000 UTCI feel the story could have been told using Robin and Nolan’s diary. However, I did enjoy this story.
Michael Enslein
2024-06-28 04:49:29 +0000 UTCI think it's reasonable to assume Noland's only means of returning to Jaya were with the permission of the King. I assume his voyage was finanaced/supplied by the kingdom the first time. The King did say he had to wait for permission from Marie Jois (world government). And honestly, I'm not sure the Shandians would actually view this as a betrayal... at least not if you somehow manage to think the King would be reasonable when they arrived. When showing Noland the bell for the first time, Calgara noted something like "it means we are here; we will never run and hide." So I don't think they care if more people know their location. Even so, it does still feel bad man a bit. And, when Noland and his crew were on the island, Calgara explicitly told him "we don't particularly care about the gold itself; we only really care about the bell, the poneglyph, and our heritage." Noland even left the gold they were going to bring back behind, they could just return and claim that same gold. All that said, no, I don't really think the King would have been content with only that, given his super brief characterization, and overwhlemingly likely would have gone on to trample the Shandians. So at the very least it does still paint Noland as, at best, naive to the point of disbelief, or honest to a ridiculous fault. We just needed a really quick scene to reconcile this; without it something still feels off.
jahschwa
2024-06-27 23:49:37 +0000 UTCAnd honestly, to the Japanese, "Bible" is just generic religious iconography, the way we might think of prayer beads or robes or fancy hats. It's not meant to evoke one real world religion specifically. Kind of how they feel about crosses too, actually.
Illjwamh
2024-06-27 16:38:15 +0000 UTCIf my friend was like hey this city of gold is a secret we are protecting, and I went back and announced it to a whole kingdom I'd be a pretty bad friend... 🤷🏼♂️
Nerdy Nightly
2024-06-26 21:03:15 +0000 UTCYou did not notice the wings before!!!
Brian Glatt
2024-06-26 18:51:53 +0000 UTCIt honestly is one of my biggest complaints about One Piece, the number of times where i have wished people would just communicate rather then doing something based on ignorance.
Night
2024-06-26 16:06:14 +0000 UTCif you remember in episode 151, where we get introduced to 2 new warlords at marie jois (doflamingo and kuma) Kuma was holding a bible too
R
2024-06-26 12:33:16 +0000 UTCTbf, I feel that it was less just for the drama, and more necessary to explain the particular circumstances of having no evidence of the city of gold but also planning to return.
Kai Raine
2024-06-26 10:13:58 +0000 UTCLol, I'm surprised you just noticed the wings. Actually the Shandians had them the whole time, even while they were in the blue sea. Why? How mysterious...
Manu_C
2024-06-26 05:49:15 +0000 UTCYou might want to go back and look for the wings at the start of the flashback ; ) To be fair the trees were shown getting cut down interspersed throughout the last episode. But I generally agree with the criticism of no communication being used for drama.
jahschwa
2024-06-26 05:48:23 +0000 UTCYou know, if you wanted us to start syncing up after the intro and recap, we could probably do that
Illjwamh
2024-06-26 05:24:40 +0000 UTC
