Concerning Breakfast with Sister

I have always enjoyed Breakfast with Sister. I actually find myself rereading it every so often, because it was the first comic I found that wasn't just about "all the weight gain". It had a goofy premise and goofy characters but that just added to the lovability to the series. What you did with the characters and premise is mindboggling good. You made me become invested in your world, and when the characters got together it made the wait worth while because you created a story, not just a bunch of sexy pictures. Now I may be biased, because I love character development, the cute, romantic scenes, and I especially love the stuffed bellies on thin women, but I thought you kept your standard of what to write high, and I really enjoyed it. Even as they got bigger, you kept adding variety. When Kip got more than puffy, Kat got puffy too. When Kip got very large, Grace came in and became puffy while Kat was the thin one. Finally, when everyone got one step larger, you added the mom to be the thin one. Now this became a much longer post than I thought, but I love analyzing things, and I love the amount of effort you put into your work. Even though you may not be comfortable around BWS anymore, I believe that it was a comic deserving of praise. I love what you are doing with NLB and I love that you are able to explore more themes that you want to without backlash (I think? If there is still backlash, I am very sorry). Please keep drawing and writing anything, because you are a very talented artist and you were the one that got me into the Weight Gain community (so you've got a special place in my heart). Thank you -That One Guy

Hello World

I am sorry to hear that but you have my support in whichever direction you want to go. I imagine it must be a tricky line to balance ones vision while taking in criticisms and fan requests. You want to stay true to yourself but at the same time you want to grow (lol, no pun intended). A happy Kip is what is most important.

Juan M. Villanueva

Keep doing what you're doing, and don't let anybody sway you. That explains why I've heard a lot of people going away from deviantART. I am not an artist, but I am a follower with a fully formed mind and it's just retarded that some people want to burn down something that doesn't completely cater to them

Jeep_Man

Not entirely surprised by the feeling that Deviantart's a bit... well, if we're being bluntly honest, a bit toxic to content-creators. ors. I remember this mess with the Felarya community when one of their writers (French Snack, I believe) wrote a story where one of his fan-fave characters was unceremoniously killed off. It was dark, out-of-nowhere and heart-wrenchingly shocking... but rather than say they just found it too dark or too heartbreaking for their tastes, the poor guy was pretty much personally attacked over it - and the kicker was what the consensus of the reason was; "we read these stories for enjoyment, not for tragedy." You know, as if vore stories have to only be about vore, or only about faceless nobodies being eaten or the main characters being invulnerable or any friggin' thing ever deviating from the norm at all? Hell, I even saw people saying he was "obligated" to not do things that hurt their feelings/"enjoyment of the story", as if the author's contractually bound to only tell the stories people expect/demand from them instead of the ones THEY want to tell receive fans from because they're good writers as opposed to just a fetish artist. Now, to my knowledge, Felarya's an old vore community, and French Snack a long-time vet - heck, he's one of the moderators for cripes sake - and yet people who followed his work for years unsubbed on him an in instant, told him openly that they were having fits of depression because of him and even called him an outright bad storyteller just because he did something that made them feel sad. It got so bad that the guy actually had an emotional breakdown, caved in and made the story non-canon before taking several weeks off to recover - and ever since than, his work's kinda gotten stale TBH, because he never shakes things up anymore out of fear of reprisal. To make a long story short... when you say that Deviantart has a pretty entitled audience, I'm inclined to believe it - because it seems that when people in the fetish side of things get known for a spicific fetish, their fanbase seems to develop an acute sense of tunnel vision where any deviation is frowned upon, if not spat upon... which is ironic, considering the site is called "DEVIANTArt". Far, far too many good artists and writers for the WG and vore fetishes on the site (JustALittleVore, AvoraComics, GREGOYLE to name a few - by their DeviantArt names at least) have been burnt out or pushed out because the audience there became toxically demanding - and I know it's not all of them; hell, alot of the Patreon people probably only found you and others through the DeviantArt stuff. But it's hard to deny how easy it is for free-viewing audiences on DeviantArt to quickly fill up and become majorly comprised of with kind of fans you'd rather ignore. When you have that kind of stress and constant weight of obsessive expectations on top of you, it kills your drive pretty darn quickly. That being said, the fact that you're here not only addressing the matter but standing firm for the kind of story you want to tell AND letting that story garner fans itself who like it for what's in it instead of trying to appease everyone else? That's something you deserve major props for. And while I know I'm just some pleb who's words are probably a dime 'a dozen on here, I offer the only thing I can really offer besides my monthly subscription; my deepest respect and best wishes. As you were!

MrMetroid

I totally know the feeling, Kip. My comics, like yours, have substance to them, and some people don't like that, but I'm done listening to the jackasses who only want bigger, bigger, bigger all the time. Some people are never satisfied and will always find something to complain about. I think your comics are great, and I read them for the story as much as the girls themselves. I also like the fact that you keep things classy and cute. Draw what you want to draw and don't let the idiots get you down.

LordStormCaller

Just wanted to comment, since I usually don't (and should, since you deserve all the positive comments you can get). Loved your artwork for years, for the belly/sexual aspects but also just for the great art. It's definitely not cool for people to bitch at you on DA for not sticking to the exact specifications of their particular fetish. Glad you have a supportive and friendly crew here on Patreon, from all I've seen. It's your art, and your life - you should be free to so what you please, and we should support that. BWS was enjoyable, but I'm totally into NLB. You can tell the heart is there, just a great story and adorable characters. So yeah, as for me - came here for the bellies, stayed for everything else.

Jared Hammaker

Proud of you doing you. Your art keeps getting better and you've been doing it for years despite all the bullshit.

Don't let them get to you, I loved every page of every chapter, keep it up 😁👌

Eroclese

The wise man knoweth he a fool, dorrars accepted <3

Kipteitei

Honestly, I'm just as imbecile as the commenters you mention. So I'll keep my mouth shut, and the dollars rolling here on Patreon.

I thought my comment would better serve as a message so I sent it to your inbox. I had a few things to say, including criticism. I'm glad you shared your feelings on this. To me, suddenly a great deal makes sense that I did not understand before at the time. Cheers.

Richtoffen

Do what you love Kippytei ^_^ fans like us love your work, you've come so far with your art (it's inspirational really) from the first few pages of BWS back in the day to this super cute style you have now. I love the story you've forged about the purest of love and the softest of bellies in both BWS and NLB. Keep it up! Looking forward to more work to come! Fuck the fecal matter the swamps DA. Sex-pests the lot of em.

Mixed Drops

You do you kip. Interacting with fans and taking in suggestions is good but if you stick to your original vision we'll support you. Although I wouldn't mind seeing kat in a frog sweater again lol, that was a fun arc.

Damn, I had no idea just how bad the situation was. I've been enjoying the hell out of NLB, so the time away from BWS hasn't really affected me, but I completely understand why you would want to be done with it. Bastardizing your beloved creation for the sake of fat-obsessed zealots had to be crushing. I won't lie, I was excited when Kip went beyond your usual threshold of fatness, but ultimately, you deserve to be able to stay true to your vision without such outrageous levels of criticism. You're an amazing artist and storyteller, and as someone just starting out on dA, I learned a lot about where I am going to stand as a beginning artist. Thanks for sharing this with us.

ColossalDream

Came for the bellies, then found eldorado dude.. That comic was, IS outstanding in every way, is not just a fetish appealer, it's a god damn-well developed story with characters with the capital C. That comic made me discover you as wg artist and personally you are light years away than the others in what you do.

Alessandro Cormio

Honestly, if you don't like how the comics were changing because of how pissy people were getting, you could always restart. I know it was a LOT of work gone to waste, but i'm not saying trash everything. I mean just start fresh and make it how YOU want it to be. You could also make the web-comic either patreon-exclusive, where they can give you monthly support and as a bonus have the ability to view the series, or draw the entire comic out in your own time, no rush or anything like that and release it all together as like an actual comic (I don't mean physical fyi) and release it under a price tag. I understand that CHARGING people for your work might not sound exactly appealing, but it would help filter out the people who actually LIKE the comic from those who are just entitled pricks.

We must all be the change that we want to see in the world, and it seems to me as though the world has taught you that. Cheers to you, one who perseveres and has acted in the interests of others, at the cost of your own. I hope that even the spoiled mongers will find their own happiness space, and that you will continue unbridled; a master of one's own creative intentions and a miracle of self.

To be honest, I just love the way you draw in general. Though the characters in NLB have been a little too small for my tastes, it's still enjoyable to me. I love how expressive your characters are, and they are written with a lot of heart. Seeing their interactions together puts a smile on my face most of the time. Fanservice-wise, you've drawn some of the best bellies I've ever had the privilege of viewing. I think your writing has gotten more interesting in NLB, and I'm looking forward to seeing where you take it. As far as DWS goes, I'd like to see some sort of an ending. I enjoy how big the three of them got, but that doesn't mean they have to stay that weight forever. I'd just to be glad to see those characters again.

Some Aigis

You did the hell lot of analysis here. Glad I have skipped all comment wars. I'm here mostly for fats and stuffing, but probably wouldn't become patron without story and characters.

Hey, that was going to be my suggestion! :P I think a weight loss arc would be interesting. Plus we would be able to see Kip and the gang in workout clothes!

Some Aigis

I'm definitely in the more story, less fanservice camp. I've always felt like a hint of fanservice in a good story is way sexier than a hint of story in a fanservice work. It's funny, I too found Kip's eventual size above my preferences, but you wrote her so cute that I couldn't help but love her nonetheless. Maybe it's just confirmation bias, but it did feel like you were losing steam near the end. Perhaps if you ever return to the story you could go off in whatever direction you'd enjoy most. I've always wondered what a Kip diet arc would be like, there's nothing that says weight can only go up!

Kestrel

Listen, Kip, people will complain and bitch no matter what you do with the series. Just do what you have in mind regardless of fan pressure. Stay chubby! ^_^

Haris Pilton

The story is what makes all of the difference in the world. The sexiness and fascination with the characters is based on complexity of the content or it is a bore. The loud minority is a bore. I am agreeing and wish you encouragement making the stories more about the key content points you listed. I very much look forward to increased complex character interaction not WG.

I really enjoy both stories, although I admit I enjoy BWS a bit more, not saying No Lunch Break isn't great. I just think the dynamic being constantly centered around three sisters all with the same fascination and knowledge about knowing they were doing something taboo made for an interesting story. Not that No Lunch Break doesn't have interesting characters but I just think the situational setup isn't the same, that wrongness that still feels right element just can't be matched. I attribute all this to you creating interesting and deep characters. Yes there was clearly fan service but the plot is very interesting and really not predictable. If I could make a suggestion and I know this suggestion would probably get you more flack than you want but again take it or leave it, why not make BWS a once a week or once every other week as a Patreon only comic? Yes, you will get the people calling you greedy or whatever but frankly I believe they would probably be the same ones saying there is too much plot or just writing "more bewebs" in the comments. Also, slower pace would allow you to take you time with it, maybe even start with a callback, memory sequence, or straight as a frame for the story within a story about Ilsie that you left out from Lunch. That way you get to correct what you didn't like and who knows maybe even from there slightly retcon things leading into dinner, like Kip's size. Hope this is helpful. Mainly throwing it out there because I would hate to see BWS go away because it really is enjoyable and uniquely well done.

Ray Eians

Thank you for your hard work on BWS, I'm sorry the work has lost some of its luster for you, but I really admire the effort you put into your art and I really like to watch the characters of BWS squirm around. I think you should follow your heart.

Rowena Roberts

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I showed up for the bbws and stayed for the character development.

Iochannon

Very good points, and that's why I don't generally want to shut down the comments on DA. But at a certain point it becomes a question of whether it is worth it just for the sake of principle when all the feedback you get is garbage? And I agree that people act way out of place just because it is the internet. Anonymity does terrible things to people and it disgusts me. Ohh and about the navels thing? I do really love belly buttons myself, but my favorite ones are really deep ones that are buried in fat, that's why they are generally not that detailed. But I try to do more detailed ones now and then.

Kipteitei

Your comments do actually help. Generally the happy reader isn't going to say much which means that only the angry ones speak out loud, making it seem that people just hate everything I do. So getting good feedback is really important.

Kipteitei

It's good that you came up pretty straight forward with this. I have been following you on DA quite some time and looking back DA has gone through pretty big change concerning it user base. There are nowadays lot's of fetish art and artist unlike 6 years ago when it still was kind of taboo in many places. That means there are generally many users that are purely there for quick fapping material than anything else. And based on my long term observation, that's what irritates them. Your art is so good in drawing quality wise but they don't like what it depicts. Their biggest dream would feature you darwing their exact biggest kinky fetish. You are among the best fetish artist around for it's quality of drawing. Even though featuring fictional characters, I have always had the feeling you are still aiming some sort of strong connection to realism with all the details, story and such. I really appreciate that. I have to slip this little suggestion of my in here, I would like if you tried to make belly buttons slightlu more strongy outlined as in many pictures I feel those are presented pretty vague way. (and yes, that's the kink of my.) What comes to commenting, I think that is generally a problem of our time. Some time ago I watched this video on youtube where some kid showed a pet gerbil (I had pet gerbils too once). Dear god how much there was shitty comments in that video when besserwissers were telling that gerbil is suffering because problem x or that kid is doing something terribly wrong and some of them were really rude and mean even though the kid clearly was very young. If that kid read those comments I'm pretty sure there is never going to be another video. Internet has been around quite some time and people are still thinking it's okay to say wathever comes in mind first. Same goes to all those amateur belly-videos on youtube that receive unbelivable sick comments. Still I'm little againts strick paywalls and/or closet groups as those are best ways to start living in a buble. Now, I feel like I've been gabbling this and that but I just wanted to say keep up the good work and go the way you feel most comfortable.

Roi Hartmann

It's completely alright to read bws just for the bellies, as long as you don't try to tell others how to enjoy it or expect me to only pander, since that's what the vocal minority is like. Glad you're enjoying the content regardless!

Kipteitei

I do think that there is still material to be explored in the comic and for that reason I want to return to it eventually. At this point it's certain I need to do something about DA though, if I'm ever going to publish bws for free again. Ohh and hope you're having fun in Japan! Where are you traveling at the moment?

Kipteitei

I definitely enjoyed BWS's story that it was telling before it got more about the fanservice and less about the plot(If any comments I made in the past suggested otherwise, I apologize). Breakfast told a nice story of 2 sisters growing closer together from their developing fetish for fatness, while also adding a relatable side to Kat. Lunch was great with how it introduced Grace as an apparent friend to Kip, who later revealed her sadistic side to her. The plot of Kat's increasing jealousy towards Grace for moving in on her sister was nice too, and seeing her attempt to eliminate her rival for Kip, culminating in her plot to ruin Grace's toned, fit figure was a really great touch. Hearing that Illsie was supposed to get her own arc in this chapter makes me hopeful that it can be visited at a later time. I think it would be interesting to see what she was up to during the times where she wasn't hanging out with Kip or Kat. The last part where Kip, Kat, and Grace learned of their relation to each other was a pretty good cliffhanger, I thought as well. As for Dinner, while yes, it did start to get quite fanservice-heavy at this point, I still enjoyed the plot-centric parts. Grace's inevitable confrontation with her image-focused father was very tense, and I felt bad that she has to live her life according to his views. Hopefully, she'll be strong enough to weather the storm that likely awaits her once she sees him again later. On another note, I feel like we could have seen a bit more with Stacy, the clothing store clerk, as she was beginning to develop a fetish for fats, herself. Having her suffer reprocussions for her unprofessional attitude towards that one customer that came in as Kip and co. were leaving, in addition to being drunk on the job, then follwing her for a little bit before potentially having her and Kip meet again(and possibly leading to another fanservice moment between them later) might have worked out, had it been possible. The debut of Bella was interesting, and Kip and Kat's reactions to her and Dadtei getting married(plus hearing how much their dad lost at gambling) were priceless. Bella's flasback scene where she learned to cook provided a nice little amount of backstory for her as well, keeping her from being an enigma. As for her shower scene with Grace, it gave us a sexy bonding moment between her and Grace, while also allowing Grace a moment to let go of her worries and conflictions and just enjoy herself. And finally, I applaud you speaking your mind about all of the crap you've had to put up with from the haters, whiners, and trolls. Hopefully, the day that we all get to reunite with Kip and co. won't be too far off. :)

SirVile67

BwS is one of my favorite fetish-oriented comic. Not just because of the weigh gain, but because the characters feel like they are so much more than fap material, and I end up being as interested in character development and plot as I am interested in the weight gain part. And that's precisely what I love in your work. (also, the drawings are fantastic and fat lesbian incest stories are very welcome imho) It's a shame that the loud minority forced you to work in a way you dislike, and it makes perfect sense that you had to take a break from it. Making art should never be a chore. I would gladly read more about the Teitei family in the future, but I'd definitely prefer to keep enjoying your art knowing you had a good time while making it.

Dragonfive

Thank you, the main problem with DA is that I kind of need it at least now, until I come up with some other platform for advertising my patreon. I cannot take any more of the bullshit if I ever decide to return to bws.

Kipteitei

I do want to receive feedback, but yeah right now the feedback is simply terrible so it's not worth it. Maybe I can try to figure out some other platform, but I doubt tumblr for example would be that much more different from DA.

Kipteitei

Thank you, I do feel like patreon has made the whole thing more tolerable, if I manage to return to bws it is entirely thanks to you guys.

Kipteitei

I do believe I can return to it eventually like I said. It's become more of a case of the readers controlling the artist and I just have to wrench that control back into my hands.

Kipteitei

That is a really good idea actually. I kind of *need* DA as an advertising platform if nothing else, unless I branch out somewhere else like tumblr or instagram. Having a side project to silence the idiots on DA might not be that satisfying but it would give me the chance to focus on No Lunch without having to stress about the constant need for moneyshots.

Kipteitei

Hahaha yeah, I noticed that as well and I got so pissed about all the "where are the burgers" comments. Like these people cannot imagine anything but the standard wg stereotype or their little minds get all fucked up. Your idea about a soft reboot is actually a really good one, something I might actually consider for the time I get back to the comic.

Kipteitei

Thank you, yeah that is pretty much how I feel. The emotional struggles of being into fats is something I've always wanted to portray in my comics, but it causes a lot of distress in some people who vocally speak against it. DA has become a site I want to avoid nowdays.

Kipteitei

I do miss parts of it, and there's characters I like and aspects I wanna continue. But it has to be rid of the toxicity that these people cause, and that's why I believe that making it patreon exclusive might be the key to publishing it while preserving my sanity.

Kipteitei

Yeah I learned that harsh lesson too late... I do wanna get back to the comic if just to make some people here happy. I feel like giving back to all the great people supporting me here is going to be satisfying for myself too.

Kipteitei

Thank you very much. Yes this is why I started to draw bws in the first place, I did not care for the simple numbers game and I wanted context for the fats.

Kipteitei

There was also the fact that people didn't understand that stuffing>belly gets bigger and then gets smaller again. Every increase had to be permanent.

Kipteitei

Thank you, I do believe I can return to it at some point, I just have to make sure I don't burn myself out with it like last time.

Kipteitei

Thank you very much. I do plan to stay true to myself this time and I'll do best to filter out the idiots. I had a long break from online during this summer and it helped immensely. It's kinda terrible that DA which is supposed to be my main publishing platform is causing me only distress.

Kipteitei

Thank you very much for your kind words! The problem with closing comments is that last time I did that (to get some mental recovery time) people threw a bitch fit and a shitstorm telling me I should just suck it up and let them comment. And I don't personally like to censor stuff, if just for the fact that it leaves out that one diamond in the ocean of shit too.

Kipteitei

I've noticed the same, I don't know if it is the phone generation or the social media or what but the quality of interactions on DA has plummeted within the last 5 years or so.

Kipteitei

do what you will kippu, that's your creation, you do whatever you want with it I see that all the time on tapastic, people dropping stories in the middle or completely redoing them from scratch because they're not satisfied, of course that's annoying but that's your right, and yours only, to do so ^^ so whatever you do, know that your fans, the good ones, will follow and support your decision

foducool

I enjoyed the STORY component of the With Sister comics at least as much as the erotica, and since I have a fantasy kink for lesbian incest, well, I enjoyed the erotica A LOT. Kat has actually been my favorite character from that series as well, not Kip, in part because, like you, she got bigger than I'm really into. Sydney, here in NLB, is right in the sweet spot for aesthetics in my opinion; I'm loving the imagery of her failing to fit her clothes, the introspection, the way she's riding this pleasure high though honestly conflicted about her feelings on multiple fronts. I'm really looking forward to seeing where this goes. And, I'd also love to go back to DWS and see where the squishy lesbian sex goes with four - count 'em - FOUR potential participants of varying relations and ages. That said, I fully understand where you're coming from with the negativity fallout. I've abandoned erotic fiction of this brand in the past over commentary that missed the point or made it feel like my efforts weren't being appreciated. I've basically stopped commenting on DA and leave comments here instead, and I agree that the pay wall does help keep out the greater herd. I'm fairly certain you can post things on DA with comments turned off to dodge that issue if you want, even though it would cut off the positive input as well (but you'll still have us!).

Schattenjäger

I mean, I'll be honest, I love the bellies. But without the amazing characters, plot, and all of the quality you put into your comics no way would I be paying into some wg comic, because that's not all it is. The work you do is fantastic, if you feel like continuing BWS I would love to see it. If not I will continue to enjoy the rest of the content you put out. 😊

Ethan

Not gonna write a huge message on my opinions, i'v been reading your stuff since you first started posting it, and i'v never really considered the comics to be about the fetish. It was an interesting story, with characters I loved seeing, with fetish tones to it, for obvious reasons. I wish our comments could help you more, but in the end, its your comic, your art, your choice, and am honored I get to see where it goes.

Ulu

I never got the complaints. I always loved BWS and always will. I hope you enjoy whatever it is you do

Gepfu Geppu

Hmm =o Patreon deleted my comment for some reason ;~; Anyhow; I remember stumbling across BWS somehow through DA years ago, which actually introduced me to the whole world of stuffing and whatnot. Part of the reason I was so interested in it was because it wasn't just straight up porn or fan-service, but because it told a meaningful story with real characters relationships. It wasn't just some ridiculous fantasy that made no sense jam-packed with fetishes and gratuitous nudity like other artists end up making. Certainly I realised I had found something truly unique, which is why I started following your work and then migrated over to Patreon when all that started. I've enjoyed seeing your work evolve over the years, your artwork has greatly increased in quality and NLB is a great showcase of how your storytelling has improved; it's the reason why I look forward to Wednesday and Sundays much like how I'd look forward to the next episode of Game of Thrones. Seeing your post this morning (I'm in Japan at the moment x3) surprised me, but really thinking about it I don't find it unexpected. I certainly agree with you about how you regret not drawing out kip's fattening more (and that she got too big) in DWS, but also how more of the focus had diverted away from what had made the series what it was in the first place. I've always believed strongly in following your own path no matter what people expect or want from you, much like how my own journey to Japan has been. No artist manages to capture as effectively, this combination of themes, feelings and character relationships while telling a meaningful story like you do. You occupy a niche of your own that no one possesses. Reading through the comments I agree with a lot of people here. My personal opinion is that restricting comments on DA while receiving quality feedback and discussions on Patreon is the best solution. That way new people can be introduced to you like I was, without the toxicity that DA brings. Personally, despite how big Kip got in DWS and how fan-service filled it had become, I was quite enjoying it still based on the strength of the other characters. I was still interested in the situation surrounding the family and I had become increasingly more interested in Grace and the new Mother especially who had received noticeable character development. I still believe that the series is worth continuing, but of course, that decision is up to you. I am thoroughly satisfied with your current work on NLB and am looking forward to your future works ^^ I'm sorry I haven't been the most vocal follower in the past but I felt like it was important for me to express my support for you this time at least x3

Kagearashi

Stay true to yourself dear. Love yourself and love what you do. You're great at it, so trust your taste, creativity, and intuition.

I've been following BWS since the beginning and it's been one of the most wonderful rides thus far. A shame that not everyone can see it for what it truly is and only focus on the fetish agenda of it. I thought it sweet and I always looked forward to the next episode. The entitled little shits on dA can get over themselves, it's your story and it's not up to 'them' on which direction it takes. Albeit critique and general well-thought feedback is welcome of course, their general 'git her fatter' mindset needs to stop. I not only looked forward to the pages for the plot(the serious plot), I always was excited to see you improve in an artistic standpoint as well. Since the beginning your improvement has been extraordinary. In the end though it's in your ballpark the fate of it, for your general sanity and mental well-being, straying from dA would be my bet, but revenue is revenue. Me personally, you're one of, if not my favorite artist out there, and I wouldn't be here otherwise, and I wish to continue supporting as long as I'm able to see your succeed. c: Honestly though I do hope to see more BWS in the future because I want to see the conclusion, falling short it would be unfortunate, due to the fanbase being so negative. I appreciate you Kip, a lot, and NLB has been amazing so far, and I know there is so much more in the future, until then I will be here supporting you! ♥

Ayeda

I'd love to see some of what you originally wanted for the meals series. I'm sorry that dA comments got that bad, but speaking for myself, I love some character background to my fetish stuff. And I agree with what most people are saying here. If you are still looking for feedback, I think just putting in the stuff that you wanted back in would be great. I love what you are doing with No Lunch Break, so I think you should be take back your opinions on how to develop your own story.

Nate Smith

I remember I used to be of that mindset back when I was like 14 or so, but now that it's been a good 10+ years since I joined dA and have seen that it hasn't really changed with how people still act entitled to a lot of things, I can feel you on wanting to stay away because of the annoying side of it. I remember being there around when BWS and LWS was a thing, and I like how refreshing it is to see NLB because I can tell you're enjoying it more since it's not catering to the audience's whims and you said yourself that you realized the changes you could make. I feel as if a Patreon-only series may be a way to deal with it since even I try to stay away from dA now, but ultimately it's your decision. We've got your back!

That's a rare comment. A lot of people here are claiming they'd be around anyway without the pron, but I suspect the sad truth is that they likely wouldn't.

Streamtiem

To be honest, I don't know how you forced yourself to continue working on it if you hated it so much. It's hard to be motivated sometimes even doing something you love.

Streamtiem

I'll try to be brief! It sounds like BWS has/had become a case of the art controlling the artist, which is absolutely backwards. If you can't enjoy creating it, I'd rather you drop it for something you do (like No Lunch Break). That being said, I still love BWS and would love to see it return if you rediscover your passion for Kip and the gang!

Vulpes Sapiens

My opinion isn't worth shit, but nevertheless I'll proffer it. Firstly, I'm sorry you have to put up with those comments. I would like to think the dA community is more about the other artists there than the hoards of lurkers, but I usually deal with the artists mostly. Dam tho, that sounds like a lot of resentment you've built up for your dA followers. I don't blame you per se, but I mean what did you expect really? You and I both know that weight gain brings in the views. It's what is popular. To make a cold hearted observation, that's the reason you have so many people reading your comic. I love the fact that your comic about so much more, but that's a tricky balance to strike. I would suspect that there are people who read it like porn and there are people who read it like a story. And it has got to be damn near impossible to cater to both groups with the same work (ain't no one watches ecchi garbage for the story). Elf can't on a diet is maybe the only thing I've seen that comes close since the plot is fast paced and characters are so well developed. I draw all kinds of art, but drawing fats is like turning on the goddam view faucet. No one except maybe like 5 people (granted you're probably one of them) give two fucks if I post anything unless it's fats. And if I drew no chubbies at all it would be zero people. Most idiots scouring around for WG prons don't even know what they want anyway! They scream bigger BIGGER, but I've been around long enough to know that the key is not the absolute size (the apex of which is to what, just draw a fucking circle?) but the character and the story behind the process (and in the case of wg, the sensation of being full and how the character feels). It's hard to tell when criticism is well warranted vs when it's blathering idiocy even when it comes from entitled shitbags. They might be the only ones that are big enough dickheads to yell about it. Perhaps it's better to have a forum of people you trust to be honest and constructive, so I think having a closed comic would be good for you (although I do appreciate your openness about your work since I would never have found it originally). I don't optimize my work to get the most views, but rather for the few people who I know will appreciate it and give me good feedback. It seems to me based on this post that that's what you prefer as well. Not for nothing, but I just finished a portrait of Kip and my OC the other day and posted it. Perhaps it might stir up some better memories of your eponymous character (terrible/scary though it may be).

Streamtiem

Well at least no lunch break won't be impacted by these people. It's a respectable decision

Naval warfare

You're smart and creative, so I'm sure you'll figure out what you want to do. I like your original vision and I think you should pursue it how you want. I wonder if you could weave your original plot ideas back into BWS somehow, I'm sure plenty of readers would enjoy it; plot heavy and cute intimate scenes were always a huge attraction of the series for me. Even just servicing belly kinks requires those multiple dimensions of character interactions and different kinds of belly play. You do it so well and it's inspiring. Here's a suggestion you can think on: I was brought to your Patreon by your Deviantart. If you say to hell with them, not as many people will be reached and have the chance to join you here. Maybe you could pick up an infrequently updated side project with characters you don't care so much about, load it with fanservice. We'll like it, DA will like it, and you'll get to do things on your terms while still engaging all of your community. Just a thought for your consideration.

Alex Fournier

I'd love to see DWS continue, but not at the expense of No Lunch Break. No Lunch Break is hitting exactly the right notes with me because it's not just about Sydney getting bigger. It's a stuffing story, not weight gain. (well first and foremost its about a young woman exploring her fetish that just happens to involve copious amounts of eating. But it could involve a fetish for silly hats and we could be reading a story about Sydney wearing a fruit basket on her head and getting turned on by all the people saying she looks ridiculous and Sydney's character would be the same.) The fact that it's not weight gain is emphasized by the fact that she's stuffing herself with fruit, which I noticed didn't sit well with the DA ogres. But screw them. If you did want to try and work on DWS I wonder if you could do a sort of soft reboot, because you say DWS in particular has skipped a lot of plot points you wanted. Start DWS again with Kip thinner if you want because it's your character and you can do what you want with her and run the story your way, with as much fondling and sisterly bonding that just happens to involve protruding bellies as intended.

Tin-Teapot

Lovely how people who don't pay for a service are the most toxic and entitled about it. I had a feeling that the entire latter section of Dinner was the way it was for pandering reasons. Not that it wasn't appreciated of course ^^. But the pressure and toxicity is not something you or the comics have ever deserved. Even with all the fetish material your characters and stories are based from, they were always much more than fetish objects. The emotional struggles have always been, in my opinion, the strongest points in your stories. No Lunch Break is your greatest example of that. Sydney's confusion and conflict would be so much weaker if she gained weight sooner, without all the time spent establishing her character. Or if she took to it right away, betraying what has been built up. Most people aren't going to appreciate that and are just gonna demand that you give them their hot fatties day in and day out, and you don't deserve to put up with that and it's bullshit that you had to. But this is the internet. The vast majority of the people on it are shit. I'm glad for you that you've had the fortitude to get going, and that you've been able to find a better place in Patreon. Heck, if I were you, I'd exclude your comics to just Patreon. That way you'll be able to avoid the worst of it, and keep it for the people who actually care for your vision, not the size of your characters. Stay positive, Kip. We love you!

Bananaconda

I can only agree what everyone had Said here. And as a copycat i am lol i will just say.. Kip keep doing as you wish with both BWS and NLB. We will of course give tip and advise when you asking for it, and if patreon is the filter to stop all crazy attacks then keep your work here. I do miss BWS, but i can completly understand if you feel nothing for it.

"A part of me feels that DiS should become patreon exclusive....but that'd mean inviting the Bad Bunch on over here" What could be done is that it's posted here and there, but the comments are blocked on DA. I don't know if they'd be so obsessed that they'd come here even if they got it just so they could say "MAKE FAT SHE FATTER! ME DEMAND FAT SHE! WHY YOU WASTE TIME WITH NO EAT?" But then again, the idiot brigade is pretty unpredictable in just how far they'll go to scream about not getting exactly what their penii demand.

Tin-Teapot

Something about No Lunch and Dinner with Sis made a lot of people over on dA become entitled shitbags the more and more pages you pushed out. I remember flying with the crowd when it first came out and praised how well the series was starting off...now people are out right demanding what you do with the story and want it to cater to their specific tastes. Moreover I just don't like how the community on dA has become but it's an instance of them wanting to have their favorite artists ( you ) change for them and make chub art that has no substance to it. A part of me feels that DiS should become patreon exclusive....but that'd mean inviting the Bad Bunch on over here which I'm assuming this place is the closest to a safe haven for you ahahaha. Either way, it's honestly upsetting being on a website dedicated to helping artists getting their name out there, improving their art and showcasing work their proud of, to have it be diminished into something they no longer enjoy working with. The dA community is hella great at doing that effortlessly and I wouldn't hold it against you if you were to stop updating your dA page from how toxic it's getting. 8(

Nenohi Dayo

I've been following you since the first few pages of the original BWS and have also been reading (and groaning at) the DA comments along with you, and so I don't blame you at all for the way you feel about the series. In fact, I've also had similar experiences myself and can understand how you feel somewhat. It does seem to me though that people who are into this fetish area are just obsessed with weight-gain and numbers, tend to come across as being as thick as a brick and are, more often than not, underage. The comments on DA and the old bbw-chan threads always made me die a little inside whenever I read them. Personally, I enjoy a well-written story with cute fats hundreds of times more than a consistent stream of fanservice, but at the end of the day it is your creation and nobody has any right to tell you how it should be or what direction it should head in. I look forward to whatever you decide to do next with your comics and characters!

I definitely agree with a lot here, I remember lip got to a point where it actually kinda bummed me out. I will say tho that Kat became my favorite cause in dinner it reminded me of kip in breakfast with actual stuffing and not just being fat

B1g_shm0

I remember first finding your work near the beginning of LWS, and I've followed your art since then. I've always thoroughly enjoyed your style, (and obviously the nature of the content too), and I've come to really look forward to your updates. I just want to say thank you for all of your hard work, and for tolerating all of the stupid people in the comments. I'm excited to hear that you're considering hopping back into BWS, and though I'd be a little sad if you decide not to, I'll still fully support your work. I hope you decide to do what makes you happiest, and I'm looking forward to whatever you decide to make. Thanks Kip ❤️

I understand what you're saying on all points. I remember thinking that BWS seemed to shift from having WG be a part of the story to it being the main focus. Knowing that that wasn't your original intent, I wish we'd gotten to see what your original vision was. I've really loved "No Lunch Break!" so far and, knowing how happy it makes you to do it in line with your original vision, I think it might not be a bad idea to take a break from DA. The story and characters are amazing so far and I'd hate to see idiots on there make you feel like they aren't and wear you down so you compromise your story. I've been a fan of yours for a long time so I know that if you're allowed to stick to your vision, it'll turn out spectacularly.

Prax

We cannot even imagine what have you been through all these time on your own, but the only thing we wish for is that our dearest kip can create the art that her heart desire. We shall be here for you.

Rum_bear

Part of what makes you my #1 and absolute favorite is that you progress the story with helpings of fan service mixed in. These aren't just pudding puppets. They're characters with personalities that we can relate to. I've never left anything but supportive comments, so I am very sorry that there are other cruel people who would attempt to bash your efforts without showing anything that could even begin to rival your work. I must admit, I am one of those who really enjoy the weight gain portion and I was happy to see you pushing your boundaries a little bit with Kip. However, you're so talented and I am loving every panel of No Lunch Break. 😍 Of course it is great to watch them get bigger, but the way you do it is what makes it your own. I fully support your direction and am pleased to hear that you're taking a stand for your vision. At Patreon you have fans who are committed to believing in you and eagerly await all that you do. Probably best to close Deviant Art comments. Bunch of freeloaders anyway. 😉 YOU ARE AMAZING AND WE CHERISH YOU AS AN ARTIST! Please come back and read all the positivity you can handle every time some dunderhead tell you how to do your job.

Feline Fallacy

We love you here kip! And I know I'm gonna support you in any decision you make :)

Froppy

Exactly what Cody said!

WhisperWhisper

I'm all on board with you doing what makes you happy, my dood

DeVaughn Forbes

Kip i just wanna say that i love fact you are so honest with how you feel about the series. Tbh i kinda felt the same way about it and lost interest aswell. I really hope you can stay true to your ideas on no lunch break regardless of what people might say. Also the idea of going patreon exclusive wouldnt be a bad idea. Ive noticed deviant art has gotten, well a little bad. If it makes you feel any better i made a patreon soley so i could support you since you're pretty awesome dude! Stay true Kip 😊

(I forgot this bit) If a project becomes a joyless burden. It is best to let go and move on. tie it up if you must, but do so quickly. I wish I had wrapped up my comic years ago. By the time I said I need to quite, it took almost two years to draw things to a conclusion. Be strong kip

A. Fraser

I'm sorry you have to go through this, everyone who gets popular will see an increase in both haters and supporters. I'm gonna be honest though, I'm here for the porn.

Geb Baserr

I can understand how frustrating that must be. I'm in the arts myself and way too many people tell me how I should do MY work cuz they think they know it all! It's offensive, annoying, petty. If you feel good about starting up BWS again, you're idea about keeping it on Patreon to filter out the trash is a good one. Or perhaps you could just do a few more pages and end it for good if you're done with it. Either way I've always loved the fact that your stories have plot and are not just another mindless wg comic like so many others. You're characters usually seem realistic and that makes the read so much more enjoyable. The people that truly support your work (generally those willing to pay) are the ones that will understand you where you're at and understand that they're not entitled to anything. I hope that you continue to enjoy and pursue your passion despite the annoying asshats <3

DK

What would you think about closing comments on Deviantart? You can still talk to your readers here, and it doesn't seem like there's much to be gained at DA anymore.

Bluepen Greenpen

To quote/paraphrase Moebius. You are the warrior! You are the one who applies the push to make art. Not the public, not because it's a job, not for family. You! Kip you must be the Warrior! You must FIGHT! I love the work that you do. Bellies aside, your work is exceptional. I look forward to everything you do.

A. Fraser

To be quite honest, if Patreon is working out for keeping your train of thought straight and allows you to draw the comic as you want them to be to your plot line, keep going with it here. Also feel kind of bad that you started to feel that way about the BWS series.

thefarmguy

Damn, I feel agitated just reading about your experiences regarding the sister series. I've enjoyed all your works so far and I know you mentioned being patreon exclusive. It seems to me that the grief you receive from deviantart far outweighs the positives. If you do continue the sister series I think it may be best to stick to patreon.

jojoabc123

Kip I love your stuff no matter what anyone says. All I want is for you to be happy doing what you love. Fuck the haters and shit talkers. You do you Kip

.

My God that's horrible I understand why you would want to stop production but I admire your determination to finish it even if you hate it just don't push yourself too much and remember your fans love ya

Tanaka yuki