No Lunch Break Page 97 opinions
Added 2018-02-15 16:57:42 +0000 UTCAfter the shitstorm that was page 96 I was pretty surprised at people's reactions. I mean I never expected this to be something that everyone likes but the hostility and what feels like overreacting has kind of gotten to me.
I want to ask what you guys think because I don't intend to step on any toes on purpose. The results may or may not affect the outcome but I just want to know.
And just answer honestly how you feel. This isn't about me sacrificing my artistic vision or anything, since it's just a little extra thing. But if said extra things brings a lot of shit with it it's not worth it.
Comments
I'm just wondering if dormice are actually edible.
RT24
2018-02-21 17:44:02 +0000 UTCI'm not really into eating dead things, but I'm not offended at all, and I don't think you should change the direction of the story.
2018-02-16 04:19:19 +0000 UTCI'm certainly not offended. Not my cup of tea, but then I'm not the one writing the story. I'm not going anywhere and anyone who would over something as minor as this isn't a true fan!
Brandon S
2018-02-16 03:57:01 +0000 UTCeating a dead mouse? caught me by surprise . seems unusual. but i am not offended.
2018-02-16 03:13:36 +0000 UTCSince there was no option like this, I'll just say it here: personally, I don't really like it; I'd love to see a different page, but if you don't want to, obviously you don't have to and I'd be fine. But I think what would be a good compromise between the people who like it and don't would be to have "alternate eating scenes" like in one she eats the mice for the people who like it, in another she just eats a bunch more food. Just my opinion. Not trying to start a shitstorm or anything by saying this, it's just a suggestion.
Franz
2018-02-15 23:42:15 +0000 UTCIt's okay once, and you can finish it off. If I have an opinion on anything it's that you spent so much time making everyone else a believable character that Sandy and this scene just feel tonally a little off, and I think that's part of the reaction -- everything else has been so (within the realm of fantasy) believable. The jump from "weird coworker" to "brings dead mice to dinner" was a big one, and now we're eating them -- there wasn't anything in Sydney's character to make me believe Sydney would do that.
Don Fluffles
2018-02-15 23:42:08 +0000 UTCKeep up the good work because it adds character to the storyline
Alan-Mykel Bond
2018-02-15 22:17:55 +0000 UTCHey, if it's alive it can be dead and made into food. Especially if it's in "cartoon" form where you don't have to worry about preparation. I couldn't watch a real person eat a real mouse, but in this style I'm 100% behind it.
Vulpes Sapiens
2018-02-15 21:31:39 +0000 UTCi kinda like where this is going, really weird situation which is pretty much in line with the character. up to you ofc but i'd like to see what happens next
2018-02-15 21:28:43 +0000 UTCHey its your comic, kip. Do as you please. I'm just not going to subject myself to watching Sydney eat dead vermin. Nothing personal.
ColossalDream
2018-02-15 21:16:25 +0000 UTCI personally think this is gross, but that's exactly what I wanted in. So many authors and artists are so scared to put in things that are gross or make people uncomfortable, but you have to realize that builds character and makes for interesting situations that you just can't get from playing things safe. Inducing emotions from your viewers and readers is a very powerful tool that isn't used often enough!
Shiny Umbreon
2018-02-15 21:08:21 +0000 UTCfor me, i was taught from my childhood that mice were dangerous, dirty, that you should not touch them or you will die; something more or less like cockroaches; so one develops a natural fear or revulsion;; eating mice for me feels like drinking sewage or eating garbage ,,though, it would be somehow acceptable if they were well cooked and disinfected
Nokata
2018-02-15 21:00:27 +0000 UTCWe need a fifth option for being neutral
2018-02-15 20:45:20 +0000 UTCI don't mind the vore thing as long as it still lead's the big fat girls being sexy and that you still enjoy making the comic.
Commissar Eisenhart
2018-02-15 20:44:35 +0000 UTCWat is goin on hur.
2018-02-15 20:43:04 +0000 UTCYeah that's the thing, I wasnt gonna turn this into a vore comic or anything. And the reaction seems to be like I made her eat dead babies or something.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:41:50 +0000 UTCAs a few others have said, it does seem a bit gross that they're (apparently) just dead mice. If we knew they were at least 'prepared' in some way, then that'd cut down on some of the gross factor (at least, for me). Despite that, I will say that I did find the scene fairly amusing, the idea that Sydney will eat pretty much anything to make her belly just a -little- bit fuller. P.S. I actually forgot you were into vore, since your $1 tier posts have mostly been chubby girls and comics for a good while now, so that might be a factor in why there's so much uproar. Still, as just a one-time gag, it's definitely blown out of proportion.
PressurizedPleasure
2018-02-15 20:38:30 +0000 UTClol dont know if i just repeat what others have said but i think you should keep going were you want to go with this story, im allways intrest in to see what other side there is to feeding and such. and i see this as a fantasy becuase this is a comic :D
2018-02-15 20:37:58 +0000 UTCThanks, and even if you find it gross I would expect you to be able to ignore a page or two out of hundreds.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:36:46 +0000 UTCIt's also my loss if I lose money, but I guess it could be argued that true fans would still stay.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:36:11 +0000 UTCWell thankfully it's not a big deal concerning the story. I'm just surprised by the reception it's gettin.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:35:49 +0000 UTCThanks, I wish I could just ignore the peer pressure but I'm a bit afraid of losing too many pledgers.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:15:23 +0000 UTCThats what I thought, but now a crowd of people is telling me they will stop reading if I don't change the next page.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:14:56 +0000 UTCThankthank I'll try
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:14:32 +0000 UTCLike did a lot of people. I am surprised that this happens every time. Thanks for being mature about it tho.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:14:12 +0000 UTCHonestly I don't see why it would make much of a difference, I feel like most people find the general concept of vore disturbing. But I appreciate that you didn't flip even if you found it repulsive.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:13:21 +0000 UTCThanks, I know not everyone likes the same things but I just wish people could ignore the parts they don't like instead of throwing hissyfits.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:12:27 +0000 UTCThat's what I thought!
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:11:44 +0000 UTCOhhh she was never gonna become a garbage eater or anything, it was just a little side thing I enjoyed so I hope you'd stand one page of it.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:10:43 +0000 UTCYou definitely don't have to like. All I hope is that people like you who don't like could just ignore that part and move on.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:10:00 +0000 UTCThe problem is that a lot of people don't seem to be able to get past something they don't like, even if its just for one page. And I'm not sure I want to deal with that.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:09:09 +0000 UTCThank you I appreciate that.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:08:31 +0000 UTCHahah I like how you think
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:08:23 +0000 UTCI agree its stupid, but a lot of people seem really really sensitive to this thing. I will never understand.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:07:50 +0000 UTCI agree, but I don't want to lose people for the sake of one page.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:07:25 +0000 UTCI think you should do what you think is best but it genuinely grossed me out. The first time was pretty cute because it was accidental but just eating dead mice is pretty... disgusting. You should do what you think is best for the story, I won't leave you if you kept this going as long as it's not going to be a recurring thing.
GV-97
2018-02-15 20:07:03 +0000 UTCIt's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. Going with what I intended would make a lot of people angry it seems, and I'm not sure if it's worth my original idea.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:04:35 +0000 UTCBut like 30% of the comic is fanservice! This page is no different, just that the subject matter differs.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:03:20 +0000 UTCBut it's just one page, why does that ruin hundreds of pages of comic for you?
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:02:53 +0000 UTCI don't understand it either, but I have to be super careful to not offend everyone here.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:02:26 +0000 UTCNormally I would but I don't want to piss off people who have been nice to me
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:01:56 +0000 UTCToo many of them sadly
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:01:37 +0000 UTCThat's okay, I hope more people thought like that.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:01:26 +0000 UTCYeah I know, I just wish people were more open minded. Thanks
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:01:03 +0000 UTCI'd like to but this might make a lot of people angry and it's debatable whether that's worth it.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:00:45 +0000 UTCThank you, I'll try not to.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 20:00:13 +0000 UTCIn my opinion you shouldn't compromise where you want to take this because of the backlash, even if there was a fair bit of it. It's your comic/story, and if people don't like where you want to take it, even if it's just for one or two pages, then that's their loss.
2018-02-15 20:00:11 +0000 UTCwhich means?
Shelby
2018-02-15 20:00:09 +0000 UTCStory will remain unchanged, it's just this one eating moment thats affected.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:58:24 +0000 UTCThanksthanks
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:57:15 +0000 UTCThat's okay, like I said everyone doesn't have to like it.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:57:03 +0000 UTCYou don't have to like it but why does this one page instance ruin the whole comic for you? I don't understand.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:56:33 +0000 UTCAt the moment me doing me seems to amount to me losing 6% of my subscribers, but we'll see.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:55:52 +0000 UTCI wish more people looked at it like you do.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:55:24 +0000 UTCIt was not gonna become a "route", it was just a small little extra thing, I had no idea it would trigger people so much.
Kipteitei
2018-02-15 19:55:02 +0000 UTCI celebrate whimsy and silliness; devouring friendly prepared mice lends the story character in the overall. One more mouse, two more mice...could Sydney acquire their flavor and sensations after consuming just one? To say one could peer through the artist's brilliance and judge him on a single frame, I will not. All's said! Have your way with things, embrace your taste for love! There is no need to swallow others' fear.
2018-02-15 19:15:27 +0000 UTCI adored it, and it's your story- even if I didn't one page I don't like doesn't somehow neuter the entire story.
Gladi
2018-02-15 19:14:52 +0000 UTCI liked the lobster better because it was bigger and she eats it whole, the whole mice thing isn't as good to me only because it's the size of normal food. But keep doing you:)
2018-02-15 19:12:56 +0000 UTCPersonally I think that it's giving this all a bit of quirkiness and character, differentiating it from just your standard doujin, so in that respect I do kind of like it. Tho, I havent even seen where this is going so yeah.
Cunicularius
2018-02-15 19:11:30 +0000 UTC>I don't [particularly] like [or dislike] this
Cunicularius
2018-02-15 19:10:10 +0000 UTCNot my thing, but the response you got has been horrible. I remember finding the incest in the original series offputting at first but I got over it.
Kestrel
2018-02-15 19:05:15 +0000 UTCI'd be okay if it wasn't mice. The change to "vore" is just fine with me, but eating rodents kinda freaks me out. Personally that's the issue I had for it. If you could explain away the "mice" as bad cookies or something, I'd be more than okay. If you changed what she was eating to something that wasn't so synonymous with "dirty" or "unclean" that would be fine too. (Gerbils, Guinea Pigs, rabbits, etc.)
IamUnknown
2018-02-15 19:03:00 +0000 UTCI'm gonna echo what a few people said about being indifferent to the subject, I don't mind it at all and I'll enjoy the continuation of it with or without the subject at hand. I seldom venture unto the land of dA, that cesspool, but as much as they want to gripe and moan about it, in the end it's 'your' comic, not theirs. You said you didn't like the way DWS was going, because it was being catered to the fans, I don't want this one doing the same and ruining it for 'you'. I thoroughly enjoy the concept of every page and the evolution of the characters. People need to realize that anything goes, and if it's taboo, so be it. They can get over it and not be so self-entitled, heaven forbid things might get a little weird, news flash, we're all a little fucking weird, so the pot can stop calling the kettle black. I digress, you can't please everyone, you never can nor ever will, unfortunately. In the end just make sure to do what makes you happy, and keep up the amazing work Kip.β₯
Ayeda
2018-02-15 18:59:14 +0000 UTCI honestly thought it was funny, maybe not necessary sensible, but I laughed. I feel like it doesn't need to be taken seriously
B1g_shm0
2018-02-15 18:51:31 +0000 UTC(And I'm more concerned about Sandy than Sydney right know, I mean what was that sudden change of personality?! Not in a bad way, I really want to know!)
2018-02-15 18:41:25 +0000 UTCReally not a fan of vore of any kind, but it's your story, and I don't want you to change anything. Besides if it really becomes too unappealing, I'm pretty sure I just have to skip a couple page before everything go back to "normal" ;)
2018-02-15 18:35:13 +0000 UTCFirst of all, thanks for putting this up. I appreciate that you're willing to listen to feedback. With that being said, I did feel that page was kind of gross. It wasn't enough to make me cancel my pledge, but I would prefer if she stuck to eating food in the future.
Some Aigis
2018-02-15 18:32:48 +0000 UTCSince I'm getting dm's about my comment... I don't mind vore at all, that's not my issue. I've followed kip for a long time and vore is not new territory. "3 o clock it's good feeding time" and "eat your veggies or else" are fantastic works to me. My issue is it's rats. I just personally find that aspect of it gross. If Sydney has a dream where she becomes Godzilla eating all the people, I'm in. This is just a personal turn off as rats to me, like many people who commented on the other sites, are not normally considered food but considered pests. It's like eating cockroaches. Just totally not my thing at all. If you're super into that, then speak up. Kip can draw what Kip wants, I can dislike and ignore what I want, but if Kip wants an opinion and I give it, don't tell me to 'kys'. I just prefer my people with soft tummies get there via cake etc. :P
Sae777
2018-02-15 18:26:18 +0000 UTCOn top of that this is a Fucking FETISH COMIC PEOPLE. There is nothing "normal" about watching a girl stuff herself silly. Anymore so then watching a girl swallow something whole. Kip is the creator of this comic and this person wouldnt have put this in if itss omething they arent in too. Please Kip do what you
Resonswhynot
2018-02-15 18:17:20 +0000 UTCI'll be honest, I'm not going to pick an option. I'm pretty open-minded when it comes to stories, comics, content and fetishes. There really isn't much that can turn me away as long as the subject matter is either interesting, funny and/or reasonably deep. Art is not often a factor, there have been comics I've read that aren't super detailed but I like the style of comedy or storytelling that makes it easy to look past. The same can be said for fetish comics, it doesn't really matter what the theme is as long as the context supports it well (least for me). The only things that dissuade me from comics is when it's clearly rushed or is meaningless. Not saying that there can't be comics just for fap material just that there are some that just don't feel like the characters would actually perform the actions they take at the drop of a hat. An example would be if a shy character just suddenly lets a guy she just met have sex without any build up and then proceeds with dialog that no one would actually say in their position. As for your recent comic pages. Keep doing what you're doing, though I like a multitude of fetish stuff, I mainly stick around for the story and character developments. If I had any actual complaints it'd be about Sandy but that's a different subject. If there is something you want to tell with your art and storytelling then I say just do it, yes people will praise you, people will insult you, you cannot and will not please everyone. The people that are interested in what you are showing will stay until the end if possible. Not all stories are for everyone but if they can get past their own issues with different subjects/fetishes then they may enjoy themselves. Anyway, keep up with the good work and I look forward to seeing more from you. Hope you had a good Valentine's Day~
Viro Veteruscy
2018-02-15 18:16:55 +0000 UTCI won't say I liked what happened in the last page, but it IS your decision where it goes. I'll definitely stick around one way or another. Quite frankly, if there's something I don't like, I just get the Hell over it. No big deal. I do not honestly care.
The Mighty Helix
2018-02-15 18:16:12 +0000 UTCJust keep her eating
2018-02-15 18:14:50 +0000 UTCAlso it's a tinge ironic that a lot of you are drawing lines in the sand here like it's common sense when a lot of people would have drawn the line at the premise ofwhat Kip creates. Some people wanna see fat bitches eat some rats don't kink shame on a kink patreon you dorks.
Soddy12
2018-02-15 18:14:00 +0000 UTCThe way I see it your the artist and this is your story and your art. It's entirely up to you how things go fans should respect that and let you be you. I feel being a fan about something is about being taken on a journey not being a back seat driver.
Moth
2018-02-15 18:13:41 +0000 UTCOh, and yes, rats are animals so rats ARE food. Dogs can be food too. However, in the Western culture, tgese are not appealing.
Haris Pilton
2018-02-15 18:13:04 +0000 UTCPersonally, for me, it is your comic. If you appeal too much to the fans, it will end up like trash. Feedback from fans is okay, but don't let it dominate your story.
Haris Pilton
2018-02-15 18:11:29 +0000 UTCAlways the Fuckin butthurt minority that's gotta fuck things up right? It's you're comic kip. Do what YOU want. You hardly ever put core in your comics and the one time you do it people loses their shit. Well can Fuck off. It may only be 19% but I voted that i like it and you should keep it as is.
Resonswhynot
2018-02-15 18:10:50 +0000 UTCI'd just be careful with avoiding conflict here since it would be a shame if you changed according to a bunch of entitled people worried a great fetish comic is going in a direction they don't like and then you got disinterested in your work (like DWS). This is an unusual fetish so there is no "norm" here to jump off the rails from. I think it's likely just shock from people with ironclad rules for their turn ons. I think you have a good thing here, and unless you're doing this for just us and not us and you you should just trust that the quality of your art and characters is enough to keep people around.
Soddy12
2018-02-15 18:09:30 +0000 UTCMy problem with this page is that it neither is appealing to the viewers eyes nor is it important for the plot. Eating rats is fanservice without any service for the fans. It's just gross. At the end it's your decision how you write the story, but I would be grateful if you would stop Sydney from devouring the rats.
DerWitzboldt
2018-02-15 18:08:54 +0000 UTCMy honest opinion is that it's such a large change and in a very different, and in my opinion disgusting, way. I was completely turned off by it and don't know if I can continue to support it if it had this content in it. Dead rats are not food. This would have made a funny spin off or short comic, but to continue it like she's into eating them... The next page would be way too gross to imagine for me.
Sae777
2018-02-15 18:06:54 +0000 UTCPersonally speaking, I'd have voted for an "I don't care either way" option - I'm probably more a fan of it than others, but I'm not blind to the fact that vore in general (aka, the consumption of a living creature) is gross on premise overall for most. But that being said, this is also why I personally don't why anyone would get this worked up over what it is being eaten - vore is vore; it's no more or less gross just because what kind of creature it is changes. Especially since you put up a disclaimer warning people beforehand - anyone who disregards it and reads anyway is kinda complaining about thorns they themselves wrapped their fingers around, in my opinion.
MrMetroid
2018-02-15 18:03:15 +0000 UTCbitches gonna complain all the time, tell 'em to suck it up and keep telling your story
foducool
2018-02-15 18:02:51 +0000 UTCno issue with me here. a case of whiney manchilds having a #notmykiptei moment. imo
Fake Name
2018-02-15 17:52:33 +0000 UTCIt doesn't appeal to me, but I figure I can skip it and come back once it's over. I enjoy your art, and I'm curious to see where the series goes
Gonkulous
2018-02-15 17:51:07 +0000 UTCCant cater to everyone, i think you should just make the comic how you want it, (im mostly here to see what happens to Tina)
Cerana
2018-02-15 17:42:37 +0000 UTCI think it's fine Kip! I know that this comic is about more than just the beautiful bellies! A little variety is what keeps it interesting. I love your stuff so I'm staying for it all. So, in short - Follow your heart Kip and make what you want to see! Eat the mice! Or not.... Poor mice...
jumpingnewt
2018-02-15 17:38:53 +0000 UTCA shitstorm indeed. I read through the previous comments and looked at the poll vote and i gotta say, i don't see what the big deal is. I understand how some people might find this a tad weird or disturbing, but i don't see what the commotion is all about, nevertheless you have a disclaimer, but screw that apparently. Anywho, i awoke to seeing all this, all i wanna say is, I Enjoy your art and what you do greatly. Me personally i would be very interested and curious to see where this route goes, maybe her belly bloating large from it or something. Don't let it get to you. have a wonderful day Kip.
That one Guy
2018-02-15 17:25:36 +0000 UTCUpdate, Google has informed me about what this is and I apologize for being a little green to the fandom. It isn't something that gets me, but it isn't something that gets to me. So whatever still works for me. You do you Kip, I love your art.
Feline Fallacy
2018-02-15 17:23:33 +0000 UTCMaybe I'm just a little out of the fetish loop but I don't really /get/ what this is leading to. All I know is that drain mice are gross and I don't want her to throw up and lose that belly. πΆ So I'm not into it but I'm not against you doing what you want to? I feel like I get what I want out of 90% of your series so if someone else can get something out of it even if I don't quite get it, that's ok.
Feline Fallacy
2018-02-15 17:18:52 +0000 UTCIβd go with the plan you originally had. It would be a shame to change your plan for the story in my opinion, but in the end it should be your decision.
Vinvillian
2018-02-15 17:16:56 +0000 UTCDead drain rats feels like garbage to me...
weeb-lord
2018-02-15 17:15:06 +0000 UTCEat a lobster whole and people see it as hot and gluttonous, they love it. Eat a rat and it's suddenly gross. I don't get people. At least you didn't make her eat literal garbage I mean that's a legitimate fetish to some.
Nenohi Dayo
2018-02-15 17:13:58 +0000 UTCIly no matter what and your artistic vision is that of your own. Never give up
Bunny Cut
2018-02-15 17:13:11 +0000 UTCSorry but dead rats are extremely gross to me, and eating them is even weirder. I like stuffing with delicious things. I thought it was like a joke, but it seems like it's an actual fetish note for you and I find that personally really unpleasant. Totally your comic and your prerogative, but not for me.
weeb-lord
2018-02-15 17:12:21 +0000 UTCThe scene just kinda just ruins what I like about the comic and made it hard to enjoy. I really look forward to you posting new pages but the whole scene and concept l kills it for me. Iβm mainly sticking around because of how good the comic has been up to this point. I hate to complain about your art and your creative decisions but I just donβt like this stuff.
Delilah Lawrence
2018-02-15 17:12:03 +0000 UTCThis Shelby person knows what they're talking about...
Greg Dickens
2018-02-15 17:10:58 +0000 UTCyou do you, buddy.
Shelby
2018-02-15 17:08:53 +0000 UTCKip has done vore before, the whole lobster in dinner with sister was similar. Im totally ok with it, it's not my cup of tea but it's part of Kip's long time identity. I was just hoping she didn't puke cuz that's gross (IMO) but it doesn't bother me too much.
Geb Baserr
2018-02-15 17:05:39 +0000 UTCMeh, theres a lot of people who dislike the vore fetish in general regardless of content. I say dont worry about it that much and just brush it off. If you want to continue going this route its completely up to you but like you said you were trying to keep it out of their faces. I for one would love to see you go down a vorish route as we havent seen that kind of thing from you in quite some time! But the decision is completely up.to you of course.
NotUltra
2018-02-15 17:01:42 +0000 UTC