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Discussion Post: Sex negativity/positivity in the fats

This post is for discussion so ignore if the topic doesn't interest you. 


An interesting thing concerning fats and expansion community in general is that there is a common negative attitude towards 'sexual' content. And by sexual I mean the more mainstream vanilla stuff. There's almost zero interest in fat girls having sex, and fatties in suggestive sexual context are either shunned or less appreciated.

I think about this topic a lot. What is it exactly that makes an inherently sexual interest like this generate so much displeasure towards the actual sex in general? My theory is that since a girl-getting-bigger seems to be the biggest turn-on for a lot of people, there simply isn't reason for all that other stuff to exist. But it doesn't explain why in other fetishes there's a lot of genitalia involved even when an entirely different subject is the focus. This is not the case with fats which is curious. 

And I'm not saying this is wrong and that there should be more sex or whatever. It's just an interesting phenomena and if you have any thoughts on the subject please share!

Personally, I don't care about the gain so much, my biggest turn-on is the round belly and fondling/kissing/slapping/paying attention to it in any form. I don't mind the sex but I'm also not very much into it in fats content. 


What's your thing and how do you feel about this? COmment below!

Discussion Post: Sex negativity/positivity in the fats

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Do you think there's the possibility that most sexual content inherently detracts from the focus on the fat parts of characters? Once you shift focus toward anything involving genitalia, then there's little room for fat involvement, especially if it's mostly girl on girl.

Nevoki

I don’t know why. It’s a good observation though. :(

Streamtiem

Honestly, I agree with you. For some reason round bellies turn me on. Its not really the fat, but if she's thic with round belly then yay. On the sexual side of things, I don't mind sexual themes, however I just do not like genitalia in general. Ya, penises or vaginas. I never could figure it out. But like you mentioned, I am also ok if there is sex involved, I just prefer the round bellies to be the focus. I will say though that in real life, I don't just want play with my partner's belly, I enjoy it a lot but sex is sex, it's fun. I have never put too much thought into this subject before, so this was very interesting. Thanks.

Hello World

dang reading through these comments was an interesting read to see a well-written side of the community.

Gth Shiner

From my personal experience, I feel like some of it is the result of it being an early exposure to the fetish, at a point where you may find certain aspects of the feminine figure attractive, but other elements such as genitalia are unknown elements that may confuse rather than arouse you. I think a lot of users on many of the platforms were exposed at an earlier age and the fetish developed before reaching sexual maturity, leading to this disconnect. I didn't find sexual behavior arousing in the fetish until I had personally had sexual experiences and could better fantasize and relate to the material.

Gth Shiner

I just have a belly kink/fetish. I like FULL bellies, not FAT bellies. This usually means stuffing, bloating, inflation, pregnancy and even vore are all on my long list of kinks/fetishes. I also really enjoy sex with these kinks/fetishes, so I want to commission more of that kinda stuff with my own OCs. Enjoying the belly is great, but also having the great and desired (by the characters) sex is just amazing!

TheLulzDK

For me the answer is this: I'm aegosexual. Aegosexuality, "sexuality without the self", is a kind of gray asexuality where one feels sexual attraction but doesn't connect that to their own sexual experience really, the attraction doesn't translate into a desire for sex. It seems to me that aegos often experience their sexual attraction through one or more highly specific and unusual kinks. Lots of people watch porn and I guess put themselves mentally in the position of one of the participants. That's something I don't do as an aegosexual. For the most part I just wanna admire chubs. I do fantasize about sex but it's entirely a fantasy about creating an extremely intimate and trusting relationship and the sex part seems kinda squicky to me. An aspect of that squick is being dysphoric with my body in a sexual context. These other experiences will have mixed applicability to other aegos; they're just my experience. There is some evidence to suggest aegos frequently have some amount of gender or body dysphoria but the research is lacking to draw conclusions there.

Alex Fournier

There could be different reasons for not accepting sex as part of fetish. First - many people had obtained/opened this fetish for themselves from something clearly nonsexual - nonhentai-nonadult multiplication/comics/etc. Second - when it's about forms, physical feels and even replacing character with themselves. More about single self-observing, egoistical way. Third (partially coming from second) - sin of lust is partially replaced with sin of gluttony, so does whatever one is being turned on for. Fourth (clearly not in everyone case, but still) - aestetical. Several people might had been watching real life pornography with said fetish, and, as with almost anything else, what you can do in any way you want with drawings, you can partially do with hiding some details and making "mirror tricks" in real life and you can not do same in real life without this hidings and tricks. So does sex as process. And because of that many fetishists of this specific fetish can reject sex itself as something not fitting their aestetical point of view.

Letro Menum

I think your analysis about the FA/gaining community focusing more on the fetish aspect is spot on. Sexual content is widely accessible. So if someone is seeking explicit content, it's not hard to find, even if it’s not necessarily pandering to the specific kinks of our community. On the contrary, quality Fats of any kind (artwork, stories, etc.) is much more scarce, so I can see why, when you finally find a good creator, as a fetish enthusiast, you prioritize stuff that focuses on the non-sexual elements of the kinks. I mean, personally, I am really into all the little struggles and inconveniences that come from gaining, being fat, getting heavier and clumsier, getting stuck, that kind of stuff. Good luck trying to include that in a subtle and compelling way in the middle of a sex scene. For me, the kink really works on a parallel world with vanilla sexuality, and trying to mix the two often feel like the content is ''multi-tasking'', lacking focus, or just getting derailed. In short : all I care is a good story and Fats, I can find naughty stuff anywhere I look ^^

I think its more about whether the person is into fat bodies or into the gain itself. I think there's a lot of overlap but many people seem to become fixated on the change, or the gain itself. Personally I like both and would love to see more content that has both weight gain and sexual intimacy. I'd like to see some stuff explore how the gain and shape/proportion change of one or both partners changes how they are intimate with each other. I think a lot of people get a kind of fetish tunnel vision for the gaining act and fat itself, and neglect to appreciate the shape of the body and all the little changes and additions that gradually appear as it softens(and physical interactions with those changes), or the sexuality of the person all that chub is attached to.

I think the closest thing to sex you make are the lewds of the full color waifu poll winners and pledgers. As I have seen several others say very well, it probably ends up coming down to how we think, and what we are looking for. Sex itself for some of us is a turn off. For some of us if we wanted it we have the entirety of the internet at our disposal, and we don't want sex to possibly be "clogging up" the comic. Being that those as someone said earlier got into this fetish, sex was nowhere in our minds, so having it with our fetish might take away from what we came for. I am imagining that if there were sex scenes that you made, a possible reason that people might not like it or even detest it might be; 1) It will turn them off 2) It isn't what they are here to see 3) It takes away from what they are here to enjoy 4) In their minds, it doesn't make sense story wise to have vanilla sex in the story. This "list" is inspired off of the other comments in this discussion. I just thought of this, but I have no idea if it has any truth to it. Some of us may not like seeing sex because we don't like seeing a "middleman" persay between us the reader and the character we are reading.

Kmds

Girl getting bigger is my pref. Although I understand that a story arch needs more angles than just that. So take the last dinner with sister comic I’d of loved to have seen Kip gain more, but if it’s 20 or so pages long every page doesn’t have to be that. But in my opinion it’s a weight gain comic. 🤷🏼‍♂️

IL

All I can say is I wish there was more of it. I especially enjoy chubby lesbian scenes but they are few and far between. My favorite part of no lunch break was the hot tub sequence. I wish that had gone on for like 20 more pages with extra detail lol. Vanilla is a damn fine flavor if you ask me. The intimacy of the characters is what I find very attractive. Kissing, close contact, actual sex etc. all fine and dandy. I have no idea why there is so little of it in the community though to be honest. You are right the focus is always on "bigger" which I feel definitely has diminishing returns. I really appreciate the stories you craft Kip, it makes the content that much more rewarding when the sexy times do happen, could always use more though :D

Lando

I’m with you on this one Kip. The gaining doesn’t interest me at all, it’s all about big round food stuffed bellies. Though of course I do tend to like em a little curvy, I’m actually turned off by the constant push for people / characters to gain more weight. One thing that jumps to mind re: sex, is that at least outside of the fantasy realm, having sex while stuffed can be a bit tricky and even unpleasant for some people. But that doesn’t explain the lack of masturbation or sexual content in comics. I think perhaps some people want the belly and/or fattening to be the sole focus, almost as a metaphor for sex - and actually having Actual sexual content ruins that for some maybe? There are plenty of comics like Bad Maid that have (lots of) sex and then there is stuff like Craving Control that doesn’t. Maybe it’s just Ecchi vs Hentai?

Don Fluffles

I honestly wish there was more whale content, both in terms of quantity as well as variety. Beyond vanilla sex, there's almost nothing, and it's a little disappointing.

Noneedtobepushy

I love it and I honestly wish there were more sexual content with fatties, I'm a sucker for belly button fucking specifically, I find it absolutely amazing, but there's very little content of it out there.

AppleShy

"Personally, I don't care about the gain so much, my biggest turn-on is the round belly and fondling/kissing/slapping/paying attention to it in any form. I don't mind the sex but I'm also not very much into it in fats content. " I totally agree with this, but I also enjoy the gain as well

Chai

For me I love bellies as bellies, the same way you described your interests, but I don’t necessarily like sex related stuff in general, mostly just bellies lol Although I would say a lot of people don’t like it because they associate it with unhealthy aspects of a diet and stuff Only looking at it at a surface level and not thinking of it as anything more

I personally enjoy seeing chubbies uncontrollably turned on by themselves, or other fats and driven towards sexual activity. sex is ok and the natural climax to a fetish based story. Not sure what causes a disconnect between the fetish and sex even though they are fused together. Your work is pretty good as is I think the formula works since it touches upon the interest points of the readers. I think if you ever wanted to Branch out into more sexual content, the feederism aspect needs to be involved somehow at the same time.

Geb Baserr

can't speak for a single other soul, but watching/reading other people fuck makes me wince, idk why doesn't really apply to lesbian content for me, but as a straight dude, my child mind takes over when i think of another man's schmeat and now i'm either laughing or turned off (usually both) i adore the sensual aspect of the content, like 2 neer-do-well's getting real hot and into each other (preferably both female but a good story is a good story) again, that's just me though i just mentally treat my fuck and my fap as 2 seperate entities, i guess lol

Eustace Bagge

It’s simple to me. Haters are going to hate because they don’t agree with it or because they agree with it but there in the closet. However this fetish that I share has never been so popular and as it gains in popularity, it’s going get more attention from the lime light and those who don’t deviate (Stray from the norm). It wasn’t long ago where Playboy & Hustler magazine were ridiculed for delivery partial nudity and pictures of sex to the public. Witch wasn’t considered normal at the time. This is no different. Artists like Kipteitei, Densil Torrington & okayokayokok are the pioneers of the virtual side of this fetish and are ultimately the trail blazers. It’s there duty to experiment and take things to new heights and places. For me personally I’ve been watching these artists for over a decade. My favourite part in the beginning was just seeing the transformation from a skinny girl to fat girl. In the beginning it was all about watching there tittys & ass get bigger and bigger never really caring for the belly aspect and even being slightly revolted by it. But as I got older never really straying from my new found fetish I could never find good porn that didn’t include the belly aspect so over time I started to like it and now I love it as much as everything else. I think because we’re all for the most part told and shown that a skinny girl with a pretty face is what men are supposed to like and be attracted to is why I felt the way I did 9 years ago and why people hate it today. It’s not normal, it’s not right and it’s certainly not sexy but I think it is. That’s my 2 cents. I’ve been a long time fan that’s never left a comment so I’m going to take this opportunity to say thanks. Thanks Kip for all the wonderful material and amazing story lines to go with it. Your comic breakfast with sister was the first piece of art I came across that had combined the art for picture and writing so well with this fetish. Don’t ever doubt your self as a creator or an artist. Looking forward to whatever comes next. :)

Bill Bo Bagins

I'm all for both chubs and sexy times. I understand that people would like to keep them separate, of course, but I for one enjoy them together.

Adorable Saucer

This is really baffling to me. Chubby girls are sexy, so imho of course it's fun to see them doing sexual things! The only slightly relevant concern I can think of would be that I tend to find excessive fanservice tedious if it slows down the story too much, be it weight related or more vanilla. My ideal Kipverse-style story would probably be 70% plot and character development, 15% vanilla fanservice, and 15% chub fanservice.

Kestrel

My whole shtick is seeing bellies get bigger and rounder. I don't know exactly why but similar to a lot of people here I have basically no interest in seeing a vagina but don't mind it either. I actually prefer to see shorts with a muffin top as opposed to a completely nude girl. I am honestly way more interested in comparisons, before and after stuff than anything but also the fondling and handling etc, that appeals to me way more than sex scenes any day.

Coming purely from an artist's standpoint, sex is just really hard to draw with skinny people, let alone fat ones (it becomes almost stupidly hard when you're drawing two fat people doing it) Personally when it comes to sex and the fetish, the foreplay is more fun than the actual intercourse, which is better left to the imagination IMO.

TrickTreat

Yeah realized that I’m not into the sex part either but a fetish is a sexual attraction towards something while involving sex. In my opinion this fetish is one of the most wholesome ones out there because I’ve heard of a lot of crazy shit and I thought I was weird for liking this but I heard of other fetish’s and I was like “ your know what this isn’t so bad”. And I’m grateful for being into this instead of something else. But it really is odd that there ain’t much sex involved in this kink compared to others and I do not have a theory yet

Johnny

Well this is more about just discussing why many people react the way they do, not all of them are unpleasant but it just seems to be a very common thing.

Kipteitei

This is probably why there's not much actual NEED for intercourse in fat work as the rest of the internet got you covered, but it doesn't quite explain why people would be averse towards it

Kipteitei

Interesting story, thanks for sharing! This seems to be relatively common too. Maybe there is a correlation between what you get IRL versus what you don't and what you want from your online content.

Kipteitei

Ohh I agree there are tons of reasonable ways to be into fats, but what I'm more curious about is what is the correlation for being into fats but disliking vanilla intercourse? Because that seems to be a very common thing.

Kipteitei

I've considered doing something like that as an experiment some day. It's not quite my thing but it could be interesting to try, just don't see myself doing it full time.

Kipteitei

This is actually an interesting observation. Anime art generally has a shit-ton of this kind of thing which is curious why it's so absent from fat-art.

Kipteitei

I've been thinking about how common this is, but I don't think everyone who dislikes sex in fats is asexual. But I dunno, maybe a fair bit could be?

Kipteitei

Yeah it's a bit of an unexplored aspect but it's kind of understandable as many people seem very against it.

Kipteitei

The gain is ok but im here to see the round bellies, but moe importantly i like a good story which you give in spaces. I personally only really like f/f so this suits me well. Anyway seeing say a vagina is a turn off for me since i like the softcore and the nuance of the mental as you day earlier. Having that complete build is great, the thighs, butt, breast and belly but the act of sex works weird in my head. I like seeing a fat girl lay on top of another or even hump lightly but usually clothes on but im mostly attracted due to the belly and the effect it has on the body. Its..something unique which a lot of doujin stuff misses but yours hits amazingly. Admittedly i havent been able to find anything over the years that compares. But yeah belly, the mental nuance and the hugs along with slight lewd is what im here for. The actual sex itself doesnt add as much, but that could be due to preference of girl on girl. Bit of a ramble but oh well

Sullied Grace

Yes this is probably very much why most people prefer fats to intercourse. The whole spectrum of fetish-preference is interesting too because not everyone is on the same spot in that spectrum even if they like the same kind of thing.

Kipteitei

In my experience people sometimes react very negatively towards it so it's understandable to see why it's so uncommon. But it's harder to say why the reaction is what it is.

Kipteitei

Yeah there definitely are a lot of people who do like it, but it's not a very common occurance art-wise.

Kipteitei

Yes I feel the same way about the doujins exactly. I do think they are the absolute polar opposite of this though as they focus on sex and ONLY it and nothing else.

Kipteitei

No it's entirely alright! I wanted to hear thoughts from everyone and you're more than welcome to share. IF I may ask, do you have no interest in sex in general or is it just in fiction or in fat art?

Kipteitei

This is exactly what I've been thinking, I don't know if it's a coincidence but it seems to be so common that I wonder if there's something that we all in the interest of this fetish share.

Kipteitei

That's understandable too. Sex is also something that people react differently to, it's more gross for some and less for others.

Kipteitei

Ohh that is definitely the case that people look for more specific things on the internet. It doesn't quite explain however why the actual act of intercourse is something a lot of people in the community find undesired.

Kipteitei

True, drawing sex scenes is hard as it is and if you don't draw them regularly its even worse

Kipteitei

This is how I feel too, I'm not into the physical things if there is no feelings involved. I don't enjoy most doujins because they just focus on penetration and fluids and completely disregard the mental side of things.

Kipteitei

in my opinion i don't mind any of it, now for me the gain is the turn on for me usually but then again i just see the kissing/fondling and stuff as an extra. But i can see how for alot of people the sex is something there not interested in since the fat/feederism community quickly points toward the soft/squishy look of girls(or boys if that's your thing) so i think that's why people are more just into the soft look and the squishing other then the sex.

Auroralis

Yeah for some its more simple. I think collectively it's a very multi-layered topic which makes it interesting as there are so many different views around.

Kipteitei

Very well put! I still don't think it quite answers why so many people in the community seem to avoid sex, though that could be unrelated to the fetish itself and has more to do with other circumstances.

Kipteitei

np thanks for sharing!

Kipteitei

Well everyone likes what they like so no problem with that, but there does seem to be a lot of futa art lately lol

Kipteitei

This is true, but even more objectifying fetishes don't have a problem with intercourse. It's curious how in this instance it seems to be unwanted.

Kipteitei

Yeah seems like for a lot of people it's just not the focus but they don't mind it.

Kipteitei

I'm on a similar boat. When it comes to sex, there needs to be something that adds to it so its not vanilla. I like to add foodplay, maybe mix in some stuffing, or fatplay. Fat or not, plain sex is boring without fat related kinks added to it. *I roleplay A LOT so I've got all that stuff down as far as kinky fat sex.

Berry's Bakery

holy shit bob ross

Kipteitei

I wasn't talking as much about sex in the physical world but this is indeed true! There are problems however if both parties aren't aligned to the same kink which can cause annoyance and dissatisfaction especially if they have an issue with their body.

Kipteitei

unfortunately it seems to have vanished, if you can do rewrite it

Kipteitei

if i am understanding this correctly, this is another example of folks that cant mind their own business and have to lash out with negativity. obviously this belly fetish is a thing with a wide following. legends are made by surviving harsh criticism and villification. kip you keep doing your thing. haters gonna hate.

CudaMan360

Denying sex to a fatty who desires sex because you only care about what they look like -> objectification. Physical intimacy with a fatty where both parties are having a good time but there's no sex involved -> mind your own damn business. I like what you draw for what it is. I wouldn't mind, and might enjoy, if there was more sexy times in your work; however, if I want to scratch that itch, the rest of the internet has all kinds of fat sex. You do you, and I'll keep coming for more.

DrDeath863

So, I'll put this out there for your consideration. First off, John Paul is right. There are people that have had inclinations toward this kink for a long time, even before they were old enough to understand what exactly they were experiencing, and as I've moved into adulthood and moved past the more awkward stages of my sexuality, I've definitely realized I'm one of those people. To be honest, a lot makes more sense when I look back through this lens. As for the content itself and why there's more demand for actual 'feederism' vs. 'vanilla sexual content', I may have an anecdote you'd find interesting. So, as someone who's very aware of their inclinations, I've had several significant others (all on the meatier side), but while we've been sexually active, I've never asked them to act out my fetish toward eating large amounts. Now, personally, for me, it's not so much about getting bigger over time, and more of eating a lot more than they're comfortable with in the moment and being uncomfortable and overly full (and a large belly really helps with that!) But the thing is, acting out this kind of behavior in real life has very real consequences. I never ask my partners to do this because overeating and eating unhealthy food in large quantities just to turn me on has serious health ramifications. I've always felt extremely guilty at the thought of asking a real partner to do this because of that. I'd feel terrible asking someone to damage their body on purpose just to satisfy my fetish. So while I experience a lot of the 'vanilla' stuff in real life, I don't experience the actual 'fetish' parts. So this is where artists like Kip and others come in for me. I can consume this kind of content to kindle that flame inside me without burning anyone, so to speak. Now, granted, I love ALL aspects of this kind of thing minus the more social and character driven interactions (nothing wrong with exposition pages in comics now and again, it's just not what I'm here for) from the stuffing and overeating to the sexual content. But maybe because the actual 'fetish' part of it is tougher to experience IRL unless you purposely date a fetishist for that specific purpose, is why the 'fetish' part of the art is what draws more people to it than the 'sex'. Or at least that's been my experience. I've been following BWS and the like since I can remember kind of having my sexual awakening... so... Thanks, Kip!! I really, really enjoy this content in all forms it takes!

ZzzQuil

A proper comic/hentai whatever with WG and some hot stuff in between each stage of the WG would be bloody hot! A dream come true if one day it actually happens...

Attraction to weight gain and feederism are not by any means a recent phenomenon. Feederism, esurience, and attraction to weighty figures has been around as long as humans have. It's safe to say that what is "in" and "acceptable" is always changing by societal standards, and anything that doesn't fit into that neat little box is considered a niche pleasure or deviant fetish. How does it develop? Lots of people have VERY early memories of inclinations to feederism or a fascination with weight gain, so I don't think that it wholly derives from exposure to such things in one's earliest developmental phase, therefore, it likely isn't initially registered as being sexual. That being said, ones emotional development could be a critical factor. Say that you are inclined to placate people to stay safe when emotionally triggered. That could very well tie into a feeder or feedee being fixated on nurturing. If one develops tendencies towards an irrelevant coping stance, one could feel a sense of accomplishment or pleasure from humiliation or a sense of devotion in observing another's weight gain journey. If one learns to blame or react super-logically, then they might feel pleasure being large, being in a position of domination/helplessness or calling a person out about their weight/eating habits. Additionally, there is certainly a biological component to it. Think about survival in nature; to be fat is a sign of prosperity and healthier carrying and nurturing of offspring. Whatever the reason for it, we internalize everything in one way or another that contributes to the consolidation of the "type(s)" of person to which we are attracted, and sex doesn't necessarily have to play a role in that. Our parents, family, peers, the media and imagery to which we are exposed, our genetics and endocrine system (balances and imbalances), stress, trauma, the way in which we cope, communication, risk/reward, &c. all contributes to our attractions and repellents! As far as I'm concerned, feederism and attraction to weight gain is just a natural part of the human psyche. Why isn't everyone attracted to it? Well, we are all different. Even within the fatty community, not everyone's turn-ons match up. Always remember though: that which is most personal is most universal. Why isn't fat sex more commonplace in media? I imagine it has to do with people's insecurities about it. Fear is a powerful thing. It often gets transferred into blame and judgment. Always keep an open mind, people! Without acceptance and forgiveness, how can there be hope?

jlixirium

I find sexuality to be far too common, almost blatant and over-expressive in the art community- generally speaking. Typically, the wg-fetish content does not focus on this over-expressive penetration, leading to weird lines, and the typically over-abundant fluid scenes as shown in a lot of doujin. Call me a hipster, but I enjoy the art for how it looks, how I can appreciate the dare I say 'cuteness' of it- sexuality is for the physical world and has no place in art I can enjoy looking at.

im pretty apathetic towards sex. mainly due to my own asexuality. i love the comics for the romance n shit so it doesn't bug me when there isnt a lot of sex involved

artwork appreciator

I actually enjoy the sex as well. It's something that I've searched for in animation and the like but not really been able to find. I love the actual movement that fat has as well. The jiggle of it during the act is a huge turn on for me, no matter if they only have a slight pudge or a really big one. Having them eating a lot while having sex I would also find hot. So personally I like both parts of it, and wish there was more representation of it in art/media.

Bradley

Here's my theory - That's what differentiates a preference from a fetish. If you are vanilla - sex is your sex If you prefer fat girls - sex with a fat girl is your sex If you have a fat fetish - you have ascended the mortal plane and now fat is your sex That would explain everything, in my opinion, maybe apart from the FAcT that I lost the ability to feel attracted to a 3D girl seven years ago. Anyways, it explains why fetish art has so little focus on vanilla - Not only because it's not needed, but also because there's just no space for it. If you take a vanilla erotica that's like 20% setup and 80% sexual content and try to smash, say, fat fetish into it, you either end up with some weird half vanilla/half fetish combo that would satisfy neither audience, or you have to take vanilla stuff out. And if fat is your sex you are way more concerned about, well, mix and match! The way fat behaves, the way it squishes against things or other fat, how it distends and destroys clothes, how it g r o w s i n g i r t h, feels, how it makes the owner embarrased, affects their life, all the good stuff. There's just no room to add a dick in there!!! I mean, there could be, but if vanilla is your secondary priority, why would you waste precious space on that? I mean, it could still work, at least for me. You think I wouldn't take a story about two girls getting massive together AND then having their way with each other? Of course I would. But take out the getting massive part and, well, it loses all its charm. The preference-fetish is not a binary thing, it's a spectrum, or rather - a slippery slope (slippery because there's so much damn lard on it) Maybe there's more room for vanilla in other fetishes - After you draw humongous tiddorinos there's still an entire bottom of the frame to do something with, after all. Maybe they are closer to a preference than to a fetish - You like girls with humongous tiddorinos more than humongous tidderinos themselves. Or in some cases you just can't help it, as the subject matter doesn't allow you to. Or maybe it all is just our selection bias. If you live and work and breathe 2D, which is way easier to... Fall into extremes with, the proportions between fetish and vanilla get skewed way faster, so you notice it more. Or maybe this fetish is in some way special, as there's more to enjoy with fat girls... Hehe... Get it? So it's easier to forget about the mortal pleasures. Or maybe it's just a theory... A fat theory! Or maybe it's all a pile of rubbish, give me round belly or give me death

This is definitely an interesting topic that I've wondered about, myself really. Personally, I am a fan of sex in this kind of content and I can almost never find it, but when you put it like this it makes sense why people rarely add it.

Femmi-K

Well, I like the sex (with peanus and virgina) and if the pussi fat, thats just amore

Steve Pig

I have three notes for this. 1) getting bigger or just being already big is a major unifying aspect of this fetish and then everyone just fills it with their personal taste. There also seems to be folks who are just happy to get seeing someone getting big and that's all they're interested. 2) This is still relative niche fetish compared to many others. 2) Lot's of fan of fat fetish that you come across on the internet are quite young. I am personally not that interested about the gain itself. I just think big girls are overally sexy so the gain itself is not that interestiong part for me. I also don't have anything against sexual content when it's something that fits the story or scene. Purely sexual stuff like you many times see in japanese doujinshis sucks because the sex is the main point and everything else is just there for highlight that.

Roi Hartmann

I despise it. I absolutely DETEST copulation in works or any kind, be it onscreen or implied. Personally, I simply find fat girls cute, that's the whole reason. Belly rubbing's as far as I'm comfortable with. Apologies, do not mean to be a prick and please do not misunderstand me, the stories you write are fun and your girls are adorable, especially Fina, just never came for pornography of any kind, might be the reason. Sorry again.

Scryer

I didn't realize this was so common in the community. I've sort of been a satellite to it for a long time, but weirdly enough I always found full nudity and explicit sex to be kind of gross? Like... unnecessary over the top, and when it comes to drawn sex stuff so much hentai seems to have a very non-consensual bent to it that it's kind of a turn off. I don't know if that's related to why I like chubby/fat girls and art at all, if one caused the other, or anything like that. I assumed they were entirely separate kinks until seeing this post.

im relatively young here, i think. so i think that does good to explain why the sex doesn’t so much turn me on. i still find a lot of that stuff pretty gross. however, in relation to fats content, i’ve always enjoyed the gain, and the fondling. i also love when there is a legit story to go by so that there isn’t a weird guilt thing goin on for me. if getting obese is forced upon somebody without them liking it, i get immediately turned off. idk, i just like all parties involved to be happy. (preferably if they are both getting fat lol). these things are why your stories work best for me. also, getting unrealistically big is kinda weird for me too.

Tcroastan

For me, personally, I find that there's an overabundance of purely sexual content on the internet if that's something I want. Meanwhile, feederism/inflation/weight gain is a much more niche fetish, so while it's not impossible, it's certainly more difficult to find material that highlights what I, myself, find to be attractive so I tend to gravitate towards pieces of work that focus on bellies and weight gain more exclusively. I also think that for many of us (I know I'm going out on a limb speaking for other people but here we go) the act of overfeeding, growing, or being fat is inherently sexual as part of the fetish so the focus on bellies or gaining weight is almost as sexual and definitely as gratifying as simply viewing a fat person having sex or reading it described. Sex suffuses everything we do, but having somebody gain 100 pound and revel in their size and hedonism? That's rare and much hotter and taboo in our society.

Wallst

I love fat sex scenes the only downside is that they are hare to get right unless you are used to drawing sex scenes

Patrick Smoak

uhhh Did my comment disappear or is it just me?

Emeffy

I find that sex is a lot harder to get right than fats. It's very easy to make an incredibly awkward sex scene that totally ruins the mood of the cute fatness up until that point. I don't think I've seen specific distaste towards just the idea of including more sexual stuff at all. If I was going to be cynical, I'd suggest that a lot of people making art might have less experience with having sex than with eating and gaining, which can often show through...

Phat94

I've never really thought about it, but I'd have to say my tastes seem to align pretty much with yours. The kind of content you're already making is right up my alley. I don't mind sex, but it may very well not really add anything that you don't already have. Also, the amount of character you give the girls goes a long way in making things even sexier to me. The... I guess you can call it foreplay, really helps set your work apart. Maybe so much so that any sex is unnecessary, even getting in the way of more relationship development. F/F romance is my favorite, especially when one or both expresses desire for growth/indulgence.

J. Jenny Jameson

i've never really thought of it this way, but now that you've brought it up, you're actually almost spot on. But i think it's just simple, the interest is either in the fat, or the gain. which doesn't have any requirement for sex to have appeal. That's my opinion at least. Fun topic to bring up btw!

Fat fetish is about a lot of satellite elements of intimacy and sex. There isn't as much of a focus on genitalia because, well, they're not the spotlight. The spotlight is the body. As well, there's a greater focus on foreplay relating to the body, such as belly rubbing or patting, navel fingering, so on. And when sex actually does come into play, it's often more about how the body is shifting or jiggling rather than the sex itself. Perfect example: an M/F engagement where the fat woman is on top would almost certainly focus on how her fat bounces, rather than the act of penetration itself. And when we're talking about F/F, there's not much they can do for actual sex that they can't do to each others' breasts or belly. Even you have participated in this: Sydney's outright orgasmed from having her navel played with. I think you can find the answer in why you did that instead of having Tina eating her out. I think overall there's a lot in common with inflation fetish. It's about the BODY, either it getting big, or already being big, and having fun with it in that particular niche. There's sometimes overlaps with sex, but sex is completely optional for the fetish.

Bananaconda

My opinion on the matter, being one who has a rather plump significant other, not to big not to small, what gets me going is just the idea of the belly, it’s round it’s soft it’s warm, it’s cute it’s sexy it’s shameful or something to be proud of. When we are kinda fooling around we honestly don’t much focus on intercourse because like others have said, in that moment I’m focused on their plump midsection cx not so much on other places haha but it is a good question to think about Kip I hope our answers are interesting cx

Justaddwater64

For me it's like a breast expansion but better, with breast expansion they go over board while fat is stopped at the best moment. I don't care for the sex more for the transformation. Its weird I see more artists give their female characters dicks rather then letting them gain weight kinda weird.

I have noticed that a lot of fat related stuff is more about ballooning up, yeah. Which is always odd to me, because I like the squishiness and the potential for intercourse. I think overall... a lot of the fetish is pure objectification, where the subject doesn’t matter except as a vessel to fap over?

ScuzzBucket

The way I see it, it’s a case of “I came here for one thing but now it’s another thing”. Like, if your focus is on the gaining, or the belly play/admiration, it’s what you’re looking for in that moment. Sex itself usually doesn’t focus on the part of the body that you’re trying to focus on in that moment; it can be there, but is incidental to the sexual act (unless you’re like, sticking it in the belly button). So not as many people care about it since it’s just ‘sex, but there’s a belly somewhere’ as opposed to all of the stuff that puts the belly front and center. The problem with this thought though is that you absolutely CAN have sex with a huge ass, which is something a lot of fat/gaining art does focus on. So I really don’t know. That’s just my general observation though.

Iceberg

I also just enjoy the shape of a belly. I the actually act of having sex is only just recently beginning to interest me. I started to use belly play as a form of foreplay. It arouses me so in turn I move into arousing her and it goes back to vanilla things from there. I've encountered sex where the emphasis on the belly actually didn't help me as much and in fact made it more of a struggle.

Ien Ryan

Why does everything make so much sense now


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