Full Night Nanny Character designs and afterthoughts
Added 2021-03-29 11:56:23 +0000 UTCI wanted to write a couple thoughts about FNN now that it's over. Feel free to ask any questions you might have!
Overall I really enjoyed doing this comic. It was something that's been on my mind for ages and I decided to just finally get it done. I expected people to dislike it a lot since there wasn't going to be any gain or much stuffing even. It turned out to be my most liked comic which is quite baffling to me but I'm definitely not complaining.
One thing that sometimes annoyed me but mostly just amused me was how people kept commenting about how this is all going to be a dream. Which I found silly because that is the lamest cop-out ending to any story ever, I don't think no one's really done this after the 90's because it's so unsatisfying to the viewer. It's understandably a very hated trope. While I tend to do a lot of twists and sometimes unexpected outcomes in my stories I don't think I've ever done an ending that's just a fuck-you to the audience. In all of my stories there has been some kind of closure and/or contentment from the climax which has generally involved girls being stuffed. So please don't expect me to make a decision only for the sake of pissing off the readers.
For the people who felt like Cindy shouldn't have had any attraction towards Connor and that's why it felt like a dream: here's how it was supposed to go
Cindy was shown as very insecure about her body throughout the comic. First they relaxed together with Connor so she'd let her guard down a little. Then she'd find out that connor actually thinks she's really attractive. This being late evening and them being alone together talking about movies made it into a pretty romantic setup as soon as she stopped worrying about her figure. Being a horny young woman who didn't find Connor as a threatening creep but rather a really trustworthy genuine guy they would naturally hook up. While this development might have felt like a dream it was actually somewhat intentional as all of my experiences like this IRL have had the same vibe. The feeling of "I can't believe this is happening, my heart is racing" is something I really wanted to get across, but a lot of people interpreted it as being an actual dream. I am not sure how I would have convinced the audience that it was real, I guess that's really difficult when it's fiction. I have to consider this in future projects.
About Cindy: Cindy was actually designed for the University comic, she was supposed to be a character there and she was going to be a lot bitchier which might be apparent from her design. I was thinking about early 2000's fashion when it was really common to wear very unflattering clothes that exposed a lot of midriff and cleavage, so it always ended up looking really trashy on chubby girls. There's a certain design element about that time period that I absolutely adore though so I really wanted to go ham with it. Which I'm glad I did, Cindy's style is entirely based on that aesthetic. I decided to do the babysitting comic on a very short notice (because nolunchtakeout ended and the next comic script was way unfinished) so I just used Cindy there as a character. I imagined that I could just reuse her for the university but I had NO idea people would like her this much, still don't quite understand how she is so well liked, part of me still thinks it's just because she has big jugs...
Anyway, Cindy quickly grew up to be an entirely different character than I thought she would be, mostly because I just kind of let the characters in the comic interact with each other as felt natural to them. It's crazy how fast they defined into their own personalities. This meant though that the dynamic for the University comic would not work with Cindy anymore and I had to completely redo the cast for that story. Story stayed mostly the same but it became an entirely different interaction for the main characters. Also the setting changed from a fictional early 2000's to modern day.
As for the FullNightNanny sequel, there is entirely the possibility of continuing the story from where it left off. However it would be a completely different comic with different goals and whether that is interesting to people or not remains to be seen. The prequel is also a possibility but it would not be the same wholesome-happy dynamic either. Basically it's impossible to make "more of the same" unless I redo the whole comic with an alternative ending or something, but that's not a very interesting idea to me. We'll see what comes next, but I definitely won't let Cindy be forgotten considering the amount of love she received from the community.
Also included, Connor, mom and Sannah designs for download
Comments
Also because her body type's attractive, but that's secondary to the aforementioned reasons.
Scryer
2021-05-30 11:26:28 +0000 UTC"part of me still thinks it's just because she has big jugs..." Not necessarily. Personally, it's because she's cute, friendly, upbeat and just a sweet girl
Scryer
2021-04-11 20:01:44 +0000 UTCThis is a great point and I'm glad to hear someone put it in words so well. "I feel like I and a lot of others in our community crave an emotional love story, but with the trappings of our fetish as catalyst for the events in the story. " This is exactly what I want to make and It's great to see that there's a lot of people who appreciate this aspect.
Kipteitei
2021-03-30 09:57:22 +0000 UTCYes I vividly remember that trope. It kind of died as it became a stereotype. It's difficult to do because, it being a dream, means that the character is eventually going to wake up and be back to normal which is very unsatisfying.
Kipteitei
2021-03-30 09:55:08 +0000 UTCWell I'm glad to hear my usual stuff is appreciated! Connor was more of an experiment and while we will undoubtedly see more of him in the future, my main content is and will still be girl x girl
Kipteitei
2021-03-30 09:53:35 +0000 UTCMan, I remember that early 2000s fashion style that ended up looking 'trashy' on chubby girls. Coming of age in that era and figuring out what's what, it certainly played no small part in my appreciation for material like this, though haha. The throwback to it in this comic reminded me of those times and how I originally found out what I'm into. So thanks for that nostalgia :) One other thing from that era, though, since you mentioned dreams, is that in some movies/cartoons where characters were concerned about their eating habits, you'd get a dream sequence with them in some sort of magical land of food absolutely gorging themselves (I'm sad no titles come to mind, but it's definitely something I remember even when I was younger and watching some movies/shows for kids). Have you ever considered experimenting with that trope?
ZzzQuil
2021-03-30 05:28:45 +0000 UTCLOL that is the only negative she has :P
Angelbane
2021-03-30 01:47:19 +0000 UTCUgh. I was really hoping this would be the last we see of kevin or whatever his name is. There's more than enough porn out there with a male pov and one of the things that I was always grateful for was actually having found an artist who would draw women who had these kinks and wanted to pursue other women. You'll find 100 straight 'high school boy fucks his hot babysitter' stories before you find 1 single gay one. Obviously you're free to do what you want but since you're talking about popularity I just want to make sure you know there's people out here who prefer your other work.
gaybunny
2021-03-30 01:27:14 +0000 UTCGlad to hear someone think this way!
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 22:17:37 +0000 UTCAllow me to offer my educated insight into Cindy's popularity: Tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing tummy piercing TUMMY PIERCING
Phat94
2021-03-29 20:58:20 +0000 UTCI had no idea it was your most popular work. Congrats. I really like cindy too. Sometimes I do feel the girls get a little too big in your work, and I felt Cindy was at a perfect level to begin with, and I loved her design as well. Not sure if It was my favorite work you've ever done, but I definitely liked that aspect of it a lot.
name5
2021-03-29 19:22:52 +0000 UTCI can’t speak to what other people find attractive about Cindy but for me it is her personality hands down. Yes she’s hot and fits the fetish mold, but my favorite part of this comic, and also no lunch break, is our main girls have a little shame, guilt and coming to terms with gaining/stuffing and embracing it by the end of the story. But, I will say I do love the personality development as a vehicle for the physical development. I would love to see a FNN sequel or course. And your NLB sequel being NLTO, I think is a good and natural progression. NLB being Sydney coming to her weight and to terms with what she is. NLTO being Tina and Sydney know what they are and what they do. Just fuck up a restaurant then go home and fuck (in my mind) FNN sequel would be great to see Conner and Cindy just doing their thing, Cindy continuing to gain but feeling a little trepidation about it but pushing through and doing it because she loves Conner and know it makes him happy. Conner feeling guilty because he wants Cindy healthy and to feel good about herself but he can’t help what turns him on. Idk. I feel like I and a lot of others in our community crave an emotional love story, but with the trappings of our fetish as catalyst for the events in the story. SORRY that was so long. Anyways Kip you’re the GoaT. Love ya
GagaLadyLover
2021-03-29 19:12:26 +0000 UTCCindy's jugs was def a plus don't get me wrong but what I really liked about her was how "real" she was. She was self conscious about her weight but was also had a very friendly and wholesome vibe to her yet she had a pinch of sassyness to her. If you where to do something with Cindy again In my open opinion it would be awsome to see a continuation from where it left off or even better a few weeks or months ahead of where it left off to see how things are going with her and Connor
silas strand
2021-03-29 17:46:34 +0000 UTCThank you very much! I'm very happy to hear people of different life situations can enjoy my work that much. Indeed there's potential for a sequel, but it would be lacking in tension and like you said would most likely be more like fan service. I dunno, maybe a super wholesome couples-aftermath thing could also work. We'll see!
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 16:46:53 +0000 UTCThat's good to hear! I know the experience varies depending on the person, but I'm glad mine was relatable.
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 16:44:07 +0000 UTCIndeed I dislike this trope a lot. I think western tends to take it even further (her hair is shaped like an airplane, so she's a pilot!) but yeah I prefer characters that you learn things about from their actions rather than their appearance, just like real people.
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 16:43:23 +0000 UTCI don't know what the average age of your readers is, but I'd imagine most tend to be in their 20s to 30s. I'm a fair bit older than many at 45, but I enjoyed the story as well for much the same reasons that others here have given. You were able to balance the wholesomeness and the "sexy stuff" very well, and that is appealing. You are a very good artist and all your stuff looks great. My wife is a feedist and, while she doesn't get into reading stories like this, I shared some of the panels with her. We had a good laugh about "that's not how lasagna works." We both appreciated the bread movie puns. And that drawing of Connor and Cindy snuggled next to each other asleep just before the mother got home was super sweet. As far as a sequel goes, there's plenty of opportunities for stories. As others have mentioned, this is the first time that Cindy has discovered that she can be seen as attractive, even with the extra weight. Lots of potential for stories there as she comes to terms with it. Perhaps she can come to enjoy her growing body as much as Connor does. You could potentially do a "stuffing" story in along the same lines as NLB (which would be more "fan service"). You could show Connor becoming more confident in himself and coming out of his "shell," as it were. Looking forward to whatever you come up with in the future.
Stavros Karatsoridis
2021-03-29 16:40:30 +0000 UTCMaybe a comic where the film club is a one on one with cindy and conner
Jarrett Lauer
2021-03-29 16:34:52 +0000 UTCIt felt real to me as my own experiences also tend to go this way. Think the 2000’s aesthetic is very well done. For me, the appeal comes from the fact that she clearly used to be a very attractive girl who has just let herself go, but continues to wear the same unflattering clothes. She is self conscious but also has a confident face, which is a rare and beautiful combination. I personally would love to see a sequel where they meet at the movie club, but cindy decides she wants to try some gaining.
Sam Savid
2021-03-29 16:20:55 +0000 UTCI think in overall FNN was really well balanced in many ways especially when it comes to length and pacing of it. There wasn't any scenes that felt either too slow nor too rushing. Also the lewdness at the end made me feel like Kip finally delivered.
Roi Hartmann
2021-03-29 16:07:53 +0000 UTCCindy is my favorite character because she ended up acting like a real person, not just a trope monster whose clothes tell you everything about her. Also she had big boobs lol, but it’s mostly the first thing, honestly. I’ve kind of grown to dislike the thing that Japan does where the characters visual design tells you the archetype of the character and therefore their whole personality. It’s not always the case, but it’s always better when characters have more depth.
Streamtiem
2021-03-29 16:04:19 +0000 UTCBig applause for you, Kip!! *Very* well done. Going forward, are you going to try and cut down on the amount of work you give yourself? I know these webcomics can be incredibly cumbersome so anything that helps you keep it together seems like a good idea to me;;; That said, absolutely adore your work, keep it up as always ( ◜‿◝ )♡
SofttContent (Ivy)
2021-03-29 16:03:38 +0000 UTCThanks! I do feel the same, that a sequel might not scratch the same itch at all. However it might scratch a different itch, who knows. Have to think about it!
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:59:54 +0000 UTCI used to think that wholesomeness in general is very offputting to people who read comics like this... but there definitely seems to be a lot of demand for it now. It's something I'm going to keep in mind for future projects. People bring up the proportion thing sometimes but I don't really plan to change what is my signature style. If I was drawing simply for my own enjoyment I would probably make the girls even skinnier and have even more pronounced tums. Sometimes there might be girls who are overall fat in my comics but it's never going to be my focus. Getting tired of that bodytype is fine but I hope people respect what my personal tastes are and what I want to draw myself. Otherwise there would be no point in having a patreon in the first place if it meant I'd just have to draw things I don't want to draw.
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:58:10 +0000 UTCGlad to hear it was appreciated!
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:52:43 +0000 UTCYeah the sequel would have to be very different. It's a matter of what people liked in the first one and whether I'm able to reproduce that. If it's just cindy being sexy that's easy, but I think there's more to it than just a hot babe being hot.
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:52:32 +0000 UTCThe wholesomeness aspect is curious to me because in general sexy stuff doesn't go well with wholesomeness. I mean I have ways to make it work but it's weird to me that people don't want just the sexy stuff. Glad you liked!
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:51:02 +0000 UTCHe said on the first page that he is 18...
Kipteitei
2021-03-29 14:48:47 +0000 UTCI enjoyed the comic a lot, my biggest issue is non-established age difference, we have what we know is a uni student but also a guy that is young enough to not be able to babysit his own sister, whole scenario made me a bit uncomfortable because of that
seev
2021-03-29 14:42:32 +0000 UTCI completely agree with Matthew Schonberg! And i would really love to see their relationship progress... Maybe they go and watch some more movies together (either at home or maybe at a cinema...) this would also be another opportunity for her to stuff herself (if you want to focus on that a litte more again) But i mainly loved this story so much because it was really wholesome! Other then most of the content you see nowadays... Nowadays pretty much all p*rn in general is just "to get it done" or even more hardcore... But in private most people would want to simply fall in love like those two and have it happen like in this "dream" 😁 If you would ask most (or at least many) people anonymously how they would want to fall in love and come together with a girl etc... They wouldn't want to have a hardcore scene with her as first time... I hope i was able to shed some light on your "mystery" 😉 and i am already looking forward to Chapter 2 😁 (i hope we get some more snuggles)
Steelmaker
2021-03-29 12:56:13 +0000 UTCI can tell you put a lot of thought into addressing any and all concerns. You're too kind to us As for the comic, I really enjoyed it. It was simple and straightforward, but deeply enjoyable. I think it's because of the tension and sensual nature that added to the overall appeal. Cindy was really hot, and seeing her break down her walls and give into the horny was just so good. Connor wasn't as developed as your other protags, but I really like how relatable he was. He came across as very grounded to me, and ultimately a pretty good guy. That made it easier to connect with him Overall, while I really enjoyed this story, I'm not sure a direct sequel would be ideal. I love the idea of shorter stories that explore all kinds of situations. I wouldn't mind seeing Cindy come back of course, lmao Overall, I really appreciate your craft and dedication. I'm glad I found you when I did. Best of luck in future endeavors!
PK Gaming
2021-03-29 12:39:05 +0000 UTCI liked it alot cause it was more wholesome than the other recent comics. Not sure if I just like that better or because it breaks the tradition and does something fresh. Also it's the first heterosexual one and the contrast in body type was cool. My only gripe (and non specific to this comic) is proportions, maybe I'm outgrowing your bread and butter body shape, but ever since the kuroeda drawing I'm hoping you draw more balanced or bottom heavy/pear shaped girls in the future. Also her arms are the same thickness as conor while being at least 1.5 times his weight. Otherwise your work is always special to me and I'm excited for the future.
Geb Baserr
2021-03-29 12:34:00 +0000 UTCI think this worked so well (it actually convinced me to subscribe after I saw it on Instagram.) and because the characters interacted in a realistic way, it made it so much better.
Luke
2021-03-29 12:17:59 +0000 UTCAlways interesting to get some behind the scenes insights. Never would have guessed Cindy was meant for another comic and became such a sweetheart in this one! As far as sequels go, yeah it wouldn’t be exactly the same as this one... but then again, that’s what sequels do best right? Advance the story forward, or laterally by telling a similar one without erasing the last - in this case I suppose it would be furthering Connor and Cindy’s relationship either on its own or over the course of another Nanny night. In all though, the comic just had a great vibe to it; even if there’s less stuffing or gaining there’s more than enough shots of Cindy just being fat to satisfy the needs for guts and ass. Looking forward to whatever comes next!
Iceberg
2021-03-29 12:07:18 +0000 UTC
