Patron-exclusive: Tenet

Grateful for this episode. This is one of those movies that I love to talk about, but have had few people to talk about. But I've also seen so few content creators talk about it so it's been hard to process the feelings. Fun to listen to, as always.

JMW Music

I liked it. The only time I couldn't understand the sound was in the first restaurant scene and some of brannaugh's accent. I understood the plot fine, though some shots are a little cyptic still. It looks great. The soundtrack is amazing. Just put on subtitles - it doesn't ruin the film.

On the responsibility the Protagonist feels to save people even when it jeopardizes the mission and how it’s established in the opera house scene, one of TP’s men (The Expanse’s Wes Chatham, if I’m not mistaken) even tells him, “It’s not our mission!”

I saw this movie twice in theaters and i gotta say i loved it. The first time was like a slightly confusing but thrilling rollercoaster ride but the second time is like seeing a different movie. Although i always knew what the goal was when watching so the confusingness didnt really bother me. I understood it really well the second time. I was also interrested to find out if the time mechanicplot actually made sense. And it actually does. I read pieces that anylised the timelines and the consesus seemed to be that it does make sense in the end. The music is also really original and great! And those action scenes, WOW. I did think the villian was a little too much.

I was disappointed in this conversation. Many of the complaints about character motivations and actions are explained in the film. It's a legitimate complaint that if you watched the movie and weren't able to understand it, maybe it wasn't done in the best way. I agree with that. However discussing the merits of the story itself without understanding the story is a bit disappointing. Similar to what Alex said about wasted capital, this was one of the movies I was most excited to hear your discussions about because of your conversations about other time travel properties. Instead of that there was mostly talk of how it wasn't understood. Overall it's understandable that you weren't able to understand the movie for many legitimate reasons but I cant help but be disappointed we aren't able to hear your thoughts on the movie when the time is taken to understand the story and mechanics. Very big fan of all the content and look forward to everything to come from bts.

I haven’t seen Tenet but I have a slight bone to pick about Inception because I feel like that movie gets a reputation for being confusing and I was not once confused watching that film even my first time viewing it. I feel like it did a great job explaining the rules of the dream layers, in a dynamic and fun way, whereas it sounds like Tenet’s concepts were perhaps too complex to be distilled into dialogue for a blockbuster? Very curious to see it when it’s available for a cheaper price.

I watched the whole movie with subtitles on and still couldn't figure out what was going on.

Jazz Jackrabbit

Absolutely the movie, not the episode! These guys are great :)

I'm going to assume you mean the movie and not the episode, because this episode was awesome!

This was awful.

I saw this in cinema as cinemas were open in Belgium when it came out. I hated it. This is my review of seeing it: 'Nolan tells us how to approach the film in the first fifteen minutes: “Don’t think about it. Just feel it”. But there is little to feel.'

I wanted to like this movie so hard...I tried, guys, I tried. Maybe one day Nolan will learn to write women. Would you guys ever consider covering Joker? Everyone I've talked to either loved it or hated it, would be interesting to hear what side of the spectrum you guys fall on!

Watched this last week my two sons (ages 15 & 18). We all three loved it. Watched it with subtitles from the beginning and was able to follow it for the most part. I'm looking forward to future viewings and learning more about entropy (not that it will help) before watching again. Also... If you do a quick search online there is an interesting theory about Kat's son...

AlphaKlerik

Saw this on an IMAX (well, LieMAX) screen shortly after it came out with 5(?) other people. Definitely wasn't worth the risk (MAYBE it would have been if I could have seen it in 70mm)—my initial reaction was I'd have much rather waited to see it at home, with closed captions & the ability to rewind to rehear some of the exposition... Now that it's been available at Redbox for a while, I haven't really had the desire to go out and get it to rewatch it with CC... Maybe one day I will, who knows?

Keith Moser

I was able to see this movie in the theatre twice when it came out since they didn’t close in my state until much later in the year (and they closed because hardly anyone was going to the movies anyway). I’ve been hoping you guys would discuss and I joined Patreon just for this. My experience watching the movie was much like Tricia’s. The movie felt like a James Bond movie so I wasn’t surprised later to find out it was one of the influences. I enjoyed the movie, despite the issues with the audio, and I was actually able to understand most of the time travel rules the first time around. I did have to watch a second time for some parts of the timeline I didn’t catch the first time around and, once it was available on home video, I watched it again so I could see the captions and understand the parts of the dialogue I missed. There are some aspects where, if you really obsess about the mechanics of time travel too hard, then it brings up a lot more issues (ie the car chase scene - why didn’t he know he gave himself the piece or does this mean there are now alternate timelines) and some of the rules didn’t make sense to me (given how breathing works, the face mask requirement seemed odd). But that was stuff that didn’t hit me while watching the movie, but rather later after thinking about it more. The one thing I’ve noticed is reviewers bring up the relationship between the Protagonist and Kat as if there was some romance there when I didn’t see anything at all. It’s clearly established right at the beginning that the Protagonist feels a responsibility to save people (at the opera he decides to gather the bombs to save the audience members even though that’s not his mission and gets upset when his team doesn’t survive). Given how he used Kat to complete his mission by trying to first blackmail her and then lie to her about the painting, as well as being aware that anyone who knows about the time travel has to be killed, it makes sense he’d then feel a responsibility at the end to save her, especially after all the shitty stuff he knows she went through. But it didn’t feel like it was due to any kind of romantic feelings. I’ve watched the movie a couple times now and can’t figure out where people are getting that from or if it’s just such an expected trope that people kind of just jump to that conclusion.