Watchmen Club Session 5 Qs

Thank you Jane and Caz. I just watched the stream and CBG19 and all the viewers comments warmed my heart. Thank you for being exactly who you are in a world where that can be really hard. Much love.

Your comment created a beautiful moment in today's stream. Thank you for sharing something so personal and reaching out. Life is challenging but it's the connections we build with each other that makes it beautiful and you helped make that connection today. 💙

Cazzamatazz

Nvmnd I found them. Great show!

Do you post your Q&A sessions somewhere? Walking Dead interferes with your Q&A & I've been watching the show live with my niece who doesn't have a DVD at college. Thanks!

Condolences! Long live the readers.

This might be a stupid question but what is the significance of all the words written in bold? Also Laurie's crabbiness on Mars is hilarious, especially when she can't light her cigarette .

QUESTION: Manhattan and Ozymandias both have cold, mechanistic, and non-linear worldviews, stemming respectively from Osterman's altered perception of time and Veidt's self-imposed media saturation. Is this detachment from everyday human experience why their actions appear inscrutable to the other characters? Is such callous detachment objectively amoral, or merely one subjective system of morality? Is empathy always heroic and apathy always villainous?

Throughout the book there are a whole bunch of references to Bob Dylan. Just wondering if you could talk about his influence and the importance of bob Dylan to Watchmen.

Hola and shalom from Miami, these last two issues really made me revisit my own notions about "Watchmen": was always so centered on Rorschach and the vigilantes being banned. Now, thanks to Issue 9, I really do wonder how Doc Manhattan could just say he "missed the obvious" when it comes to humans: did he just refuse to see us/Laurie as thermodynamic miracles because it didn't fit with his godly detachment? And Issue 10, the whole deal with Ozymandias and the way he can spout off "Zen techniques" in the Veidt method, while also promoting sexual imagery in commercials, and buying stock in baby food/munitions-this has to be more than just narcissism, this almost feels like the flipside of Doc Manhattan: from cold detachment of a God to a shrewd businessman's calculating effort to steer the message across?

This will be my first book club session I may have to miss, my father took his life this week and things are just so crazy. I know it's off topic but I live in rural ky and there aren't many freaks or geeks around like us and it can get lonely. My dad was a Sci fi weirdo like us and loneliness got him. You do such great work giving us a home to come together and realize we aren't so alone in this world. If you have time will you just let everyone like me and my dad know how awesome and perfect they are just the way they are and that they are loved and not alone. Us freaks and geeks are what makes this world so beautiful and weird. You do so much to build people like me up inside and I just want to thank you and t bone for all you do. Much love to all the team 19ers. I love our time together in these book clubs. It's the best.

I’ve got recommendations for ya! Keep going with Moore: Promethea, V for Vendetta - or read Brandon Graham’s Prophet (A LOT like Dune) or King City.

Lucas Fehr

Women are reduced to "sexy" plot devices (Silk Spectres 1 and 2). Queer characters are either brutally murdered (Silhouette, Kitty Genovese) or remain closeted and eventually get killed off (Captain Metropolis, Hooded Justice). What do you think Moore and Gibbons are saying about women and queer society?

QUESTION: Do you prefer masked characters in movies to remove their masks or helmets periodically (during a battle, for example, as in Black Panther) to show the actor’s emotions or do you prefer them to keep the mask on as they would ‘realistically’. I think both Hugo Weaving and Karl Urban give convincing, emotive performances while keeping their masks on consistently in V for Vendetta and Dredd.

Lucas Fehr

COMMENT: I agree Nite Owl’s snow suit is super sci-fi. That would be a sweet cosplay at a winter comicon, or a Canadian Halloween. I find it a bit of a stretch that Rorschach could survive 20 miles of Antarctic travel on a hover bike (which would make travel even colder with the wind-chill) in his street clothes (unless that trench coat is made of an insulating nano-material or he’s got some seriously good long underwear). QUESTION: He seems to be about total commitment so maybe he’s keeping himself alive at antarctic temperatures by force of will alone? Perhaps the author just didn’t want to mess with his iconic imagery for the sake of story.

Lucas Fehr

So, how cool is Nite Owl climate appropriate Antarctica costume? Also, is it me, or do we have another example of "writers can't do math"? Perhaps Papa Moore read too much into Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life", but Dr Manhattan has zero understanding of basic probability. Laurie's existence or the fact that her father is the Comedian are not unlikely events, and neither are the supposed cancer cases that drove Dr M to Mars. For someone who can observe quantum events, you'd figure he'd be smarter than that. Anyway, when fiction dabbles into one's area of expertise, you can't help but have your inner Morbo scream "[Probability] does not work that way!"

PJ B

Apart from Ozymandias, Dr. Manhattan is probably the smartest man on Earth, if not the universe, and I find him cold and uncaring. This seems to be a trope in graphic novels. In The Flash, Devoe is a highly intelligent meta human who doesn’t care about the people he hurts. Superman’s greatest nemesis is Lex Luthor who uses his intellect to come up with devious plots to defeat Superman and enrich himself. In real life I find stupid people are often the dangerous ones. Why do you think geniuses in graphic novels are either evil geniuses or simply uncaring? (Or am I just seeing a pattern where there is none?)

Hello CBG19, while it probably is a coincident, I've noticed other youtubers starting to make videos about there favourite books and recommended reading soon after you finished Dune Club, even pewdiepie recommended Dune recently. I like this because I've started reading a lot since Dune club and am always looking for recommendations I haven't heard of, so I wanted to know how do you find books to read? where do you go to find out what books are worth investing your time in and since I've now already finished Watchmen what graphic novel would you recommend next?

Eoghan