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DIRECTOR'S CUT: Villain Therapy: PALPATINE

How do skilled manipulators get their way?

Licensed therapist Jonathan Decker and filmmaker Alan Seawright are delving into the dark side with Emperor Palpatine. They discuss his master plan and how he uses others to seize power and get his way. Jonathan explains the many techniques that Palpatine uses, like gaslighting, grooming, and manipulating. Oh my! You may be surprised when Jonathan proposes to step in with therapy. Though Alan struggles with the prequels (don’t forget, the prequels hurt Alan), he talks about why he likes the Palpatine story line. How many prequel memes did you spot? 

May the 4th Be With You!

DIRECTOR'S CUT: Villain Therapy: PALPATINE

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Thank you for the information!

Anna Murray

I was coming in here to address a similar issue I had with the Labyrinth episode. It isn't "romantic", it's power and control. And them praising Luke for doing the same thing Sarah did and criticized her for? Not classy, y'all. Time for self-examination on why. Thanks for getting here first, Saucy!

Lilly Trammell

An ordinary Jedi - how he took something spectacular and make it mundane. Jedi aren’t ordinary and the way Palpetine flips that! Wow

Kyra

At the 6:48 mark, our two hosts suggest a Star Wars Die Hard on Coruscant. Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 1 Episode 22, Hostage Crisis, is Die Hard-esque episode.

RenegadeForLife

I've been a member ever since you guys launched membership site and I've seen episodes that have changed my life (like a breakthrough in therapy)... but this episode changed my life forever. I will never ever be able to get the idea of a Die Hard Coruscant style movie out of my head ever!! I had never laughed harder watching CT content (and I have laughed a lot) than how I laughed with this. I love you guys! Keep up the good work and do reach out to Kathleen Kennedy... they are missing out! Yippee ki-yay midichlorians!!!

Kate Ackerley

I had just finished telling my husband how much I hated the Anakin/Palpatine do-si-do circlular blocking when Alan said how great it was. It is my second least favorite blocking, just a smidge behind having one actor turn away from their scene partner to deliver emotional lines. Neither blocking tropes have anything to do with reality and instantly take me out of my suspension of disbelief.

TheRentFan

Jono did an episode on his channel for Bad Batch! The channel is called Mended Light 😊.

SaucyJTD

Have you guys thought about doing any Clone Wars themed episodes? I know it's a series, but you've made exceptions before! Also, Bad Batch is only 3 seasons 😉 Thanks for all that you do for us!!!

CC

That’s not how lightsabers work! Power cell, yes. Converter no.

Angelina

Yeah, we never cut director's cuts for our oldest videos. We may make DCs for them if there's enough footage we didn't use. But that's a long-term project.

Cinema Therapy

Excellent episode. Would love to see a similar villain (anti-hero) therapy session for Light Yagami from "Death Note". (The 37 episode anime, please. Not the live action abomination.) He's a fascinating character study on good intentions and what power can do to a person.

Reuben McKay

Yeah, this sounds right 🤣.

SaucyJTD

Okay, I wanted to come in here and apologize. I was extremely upset when grooming wasn't covered in the now infamous Labyrinth episode. While this was not the exact grooming that I experienced (mine went more... personal), I am really happy to hear it be covered here. I apologize, Jono, for calling you out so harshly. Thank you for addressing it in something that you actually enjoy ❤️.

SaucyJTD

The fact that "dew it" was in the first like second of this video makes me so happy. Anytime I want to say "do it" I say it in his voice 😂

Kambria

Was there ever a director’s cut of Villain Therapy for Anakin, or of Therapist Reacts to Kylo Ren? And the shorter Therapy Techniques in Star Wars. Missing those earlier episodes, not sure if wnever got uploaded here on Patreon because there was never a director’s cut version for them.

Lisa C

Love the episode. HOWEVER, if I ever have the opportunity to try and convince Alan and/or Jono on the Darth Jar Jar theory, I will be taking it!

Hunter Tober-McGivern

BWAAHAAHAA! Loved the light saber bit at the end! Best Star Wars baby ... ? My vote is for ANDOR. I think the argument can be made it's the most human, most relatable, most emotional, most realistic, and most dangerous Star Wars world ever. LOVE IT!

Melissa

I love listening to Alan and Jono dump on the stupid stuff about Star Wars.

tropetweeter

“Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi.” – Sheev Palpatine “Only I can fix it.” – Donald Trump

tropetweeter

There is actually episode of clone wars when senate is taken hostage. Anakin is there trapped without lightsaber (and he has to hide because he was there for padme) and he is basically John maclaening it against cad bane and his crew :D I have some issues with prequels especially with anakin in revenge of the sith, but palpatine is perfect and he is never as great after his disfiguration, because the manipulation becomes a bit too cheesy and villainess becomes a bit too moustache twirling (except short hologram moment in rebels when he is masked as old kind grandpa palpatine from prequels). I wouldn't say jedi don't trust anakin they just give him advice he doesn't want to hear so he seeks out palpatine who tells him everything he wants to hear. I mean windu is special case but in attack of the clones and clone wars windu trusts anakin, in aotc even more than obi-wan, jedi feel like anakin is ready for his own mission while obi-wan knows he's too reckless and arrogant. Windu only stopped trusting him at the end of clone wars most likely because anakin was too close to palpatine and became way too ruthless during end of war. Briliance of palpatine's plan is that he manipulated jedi into situation where they had only one path left and it was still shitty one. They had to join war even though jedi shouldn't be generals and windu's only way was to kill palpatine even though it was very dark path for a jedi. Palpatine claims jedi seek power but they only became generals in war because this was only way to save republic and he manipulated them into it. Jedi really avoided taking power because they saw the danger in it, but also didn't give them other way to defeat him, because they couldn't be part of politics and defeat him democraticaly. I'd disagree with attachments here because there is more of a mystical element of that in star wars. Even with healthy attachment you fear of loosing someone and if you're force sensitive, dark side tempts you and offers you power to save them and if you take that power it will corrupt you (quite like one ring) and twist you into something else. Luke nearly falls to dark side because vader threatens his sister. It's not about jedi not having emotion and not loving people, their power is fueled by love and care. But jedi still have too keep attachement from being source of fear. Obi-wan is great at that, he loves satine but even when maul kills her he doesn't fall to dark side, doesn't let his anger consume him he still is able to think and to do his job. Jedi mission is incredibly hard and it's based on self sacrifice but that's how it has to be for jedi to remain in light. It based a lot on eastern philosophy imho. Rejecting possesivness, accepting loss without being consumed by fear and anger.

BlackAdder

Awesome job! Thanks guys. This made my day. May the 4th be with you!

Arielle Bejar

I know it’s tv but I’d LOVE a Psych episode!

Meg W.

“BECAUSE THEY ACCUSED AHSOKA OF MURDER!” Hahaha. Yes. Yes good Jono. Very good.

Meg W.

Can we get Megan to recast these movies??

Wendy Darling

Jono did say that if was a super villian he'd be Palpatine! 😈

Wendy Darling

It’s fine. weird glitch of the matrix. thanks!

Hannah Petersen

It may be. I replayed from 11:00-13:00 and didn't notice anything weird. Maybe refresh and try again?

Cinema Therapy

*so

Hannah Petersen

Someone the intro (with cinema therapy graphic, music, and episode teasers) was at the intro (0:00 minutes) and then the whole thing repeated at 12 minutes and after 12:30, the episode picked up where it left off. It might be my internet connection. Idk.

Hannah Petersen

So here's a subtlety. Jono talks about how a manipulator is going to say "what you believe doesn't serve you." when you're at your lowest. And then he does *exactly* the same thing to Palpatine when he's at his weakest, when he's hit rock bottom. Therapists are Sith Lords.

Anders

We're not seeing anything weird around 12 minutes. What did you see?

Cinema Therapy

Star Wars at the Cantina, but it's just a bar? We got that in the Holiday Special. It was the *only* watchable part of that monstrosity. And it was only watchable because of Bea Arthur.

Anders

GOD IM OLD

Amelia from the BitchenBoutique

I like the breakdown, but anyone notice the weird edit at 12 minutes with the intro again?

Hannah Petersen

Mixed. Love that you guys come to one of them a month for sure. Maybe I missed something or my memory is fuzzy, but if they are ALL being released as drops, would you then specify which one will be the one you attend, or…? P.S. autocorrect tried to make “missed” into “kissed”. xD

IndyDraws

This was amazing!! Thank you for another fantastic breakdown :)

Hikari Yamato

Fantastic. Thank you boys!

Terpsichore

🤣

bryt.knee.

I must rewatch those! 😂

Desireé (Speak91)

That was an awesome way to end that episode

Elizabeth McDowell

It's okay, Jono. It can happen to a guy in his 40's

Smidge

My husband said we should just clone Ian mcdiarmid…and then the infinite Star Wars trilogy sequels will be complete

Kendra Jucksch

DC = director cuts? I do like these drops, interactive and fun. And CT team available for some not all makes sense

bryt.knee.

Car dealership late life career change. Priceless.

Terpsichore

🚙

Elizabeth McDowell

“Playing into his hand,” I see what you did there!

Jameson Childress

I’ve been begging for it in discord. I think it’s a wonderful idea

Emily Gravity

Nope, it's today! The video goes live on YouTube tomorrow. Patrons always get the DC one day before YouTube (or sooner if we schedule a Drops earlier, like we did for Ratatouille today).

Cinema Therapy

INTENTIONAL! We’re making all the videos! Also, Star Wars day on Saturday!

Alan Seawright

Do it Alan!! Make it better.

Janese Carstens

We’re experimenting with just releasing all the DCs as drops. But we’ll only join in on some of them. What do you think? Good idea/bad idea?

Alan Seawright

The CT team only attends one Drops per month. Y'all voted for Ratatouille, which we just did today. This DC was already scheduled for today, so you get double. :)

Cinema Therapy

It's intentional. Our best time to do the Ratatouille Drops y'all voted for was today, but today is also the scheduled day for the Palpatine DC. So you get both!

Cinema Therapy

Guys, I’d be REALLY good at making Star Wars stuff. It’s embedded in my DNA. My 2nd memory is sitting in the theater, as a 2-yr-old, watching RotJ.

Alan Seawright

Every time I see this part I laugh thinking about the Studio C sketches with Palpatine. So fun

Elizabeth McDowell

Alan's OTHER superpower - SW fanfic 😅

Wendy Darling

So basically Alan is saying Star Wars universe = excellent playground lol

IndyDraws

There is the next indy film.. star wars universe Casablanca.

CydneeBee

lol 😂

Kendra Jucksch

MEESA THELIOMA

Smidge

“Polish the turd and make it shine.” Lol Speaks to their skills as actors. Impressive.

IndyDraws

Same! I had to take the day off b/c of weather and this is epic!

CydneeBee

Smidge I love your Neo Queen Serenity cosplay 🤩

bryt.knee.

SAME! I took today off for a metal show tonight so I cann chill with The Internet Dads while I hang out!

Smidge

“Dew it.” xD Use this meme all the time with friends.

IndyDraws

Christopher Lee was a Tucci. I miss him.

Austin Bell

Same! I have the whole week off. This is great

Holly✌️

I'm so glad I have today off to catch this CT double feature. Heck yeah 😎

bryt.knee.

"EDWARD know what you want."

Smidge

We need this movie.

Austin Bell

Omg this is insane. I love it.

Terpsichore

Padme's clothiers went way harder on this film than they had any right to.

Smidge

Jar jar McClain 😂

Kendra Jucksch

I love how off the rails this is going. So awesome

Elizabeth McDowell

Lolololol

Holly✌️

🤣

Elizabeth McDowell

🤣🤣

bryt.knee.

I was gonna say, holy crap! Is everything okay?! 🤣

Smidge

Was this supposed to be dropped on May the 4th?

Holly✌️

Corrine confirmed today’s double feature is intentional on the discord!!!

Emily Gravity

There are no adults here (Jono or Alan)

Holly✌️

100%! I’m one of the weirdos who was super into the political machinations in the prequels, and how a trade disagreement was used to launch the feckin EMPIRE. Well, helped by a moody teen whose girlfriend didn’t say “I love you too” quick enough so he became an incel who blows up planets.

Amelia from the BitchenBoutique

None of the CT Team seems to be here…

Emily Gravity

Are we not supposed to see this?! 😫

bryt.knee.

Palps had such Mr Bean vibes here.

Wendy Darling

Psych!

Elizabeth McDowell

May 4 would make so much sense

bryt.knee.

Also possible that just patrons are going to get one of the two?

Emily Gravity

I'm not complaining 💃🏽

bryt.knee.

Lol exactly what I was thinking

bryt.knee.

I'm sure something is wrong

Seldanz_

That’s what I was thinking, lol. This feels like it was meant for May 4th (Star Wars day)

Liz Massie

😐😐😐

bryt.knee.

Oof this didn't ocurr to me it could have been an accident

Opal Evergreen

Wait. ANOTHER ONE?!

bryt.knee.

What is going on? Why does it feel like this should not have dropped?

Seldanz_

So many drops today! I’m happy about it

Emily Gravity

Made it with seconds to spare!

Jameson Childress

Oooo another drop!

Opal Evergreen

Anywho! Looking forward to this unexpected thingie. Technical term. :)

IndyDraws

Preparing for a lot of AH-HAHs in this one!

Amelia from the BitchenBoutique

Oh HEY I actually made it on time for once

Hikari Yamato

Wooooo

Amelia from the BitchenBoutique

So how DOES one tell Patreon more than 2 minutes before a drop would be, uh… better? Lol

IndyDraws

I received the notification on time!

Holly✌️

I love May. So much Star Wars. It’s the best.

EmsieHammer

So excited for this! Hoping to see Jono geek out!!

Wendy Darling


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