Dispatch From the Coastal Elite
Added 2024-11-09 02:14:16 +0000 UTC
The girls go off-the-cuff to discuss some post-election thoughts.
This episode was produced by Julia Hava and Eliza McLamb and edited by Allison Hagan.
Listen to Let the blame game begin on pod save America!! Those guys know their shit and have a similar view to you but include interesting context and take a more nuanced approach to idea that dems have failed to help the working class. They talk about Bernie and other dems statements on the election too.
Juliette
2024-11-14 18:12:43 +0000 UTC
I feel you from Idaho! Sending lots of love, proud of you for your work ššš
Logan
2024-11-14 03:43:21 +0000 UTC
missouri binchie here⦠missouri just passed an amendment to get rid of ranked choice votingš„² they basically tricked people into voting to pass the ban by attaching a measure to the amendment to āonly allow US citizens to voteā (which of course was already the law). so when people read the amendment on their ballot, they saw the part about only allowing US citizens to vote and voted yes without realizing it also banned ranked choice voting (the US citizen part was the first thing listed in the amendment). It was so disheartening to see how easy it was for them to manipulate people into voting against their own interests by attaching a ridiculous red herring
Gabriela Kauffman
2024-11-13 22:02:09 +0000 UTC
have you ever listened to 'smosh reads reddit'? :) that's my reddit stories fix weekly
Haven Patrick
2024-11-13 21:44:31 +0000 UTC
we love our governor andyš
Haven Patrick
2024-11-13 21:43:38 +0000 UTC
Julia what are your thoughts on JoJo Siwa speaking at your alma mater
KM
2024-11-13 19:33:43 +0000 UTC
Might I add somehow right in time for the Los Angeles Olympics where did the encampments goooo
Ashley
2024-11-13 18:38:48 +0000 UTC
California voting to keep slavery AND harsher punishment for drug crime they want those prisons filled and profitable
Ashley
2024-11-13 18:38:13 +0000 UTC
Also where is Hasan Minhaj when we need him
Liv Tambrini
2024-11-13 17:54:32 +0000 UTC
Being a historian of the United States is realizing that WASP Americans have not changed since the 18th century.
Liv Tambrini
2024-11-13 17:49:44 +0000 UTC
girl my point is the whole system is fucked to the core I am echoing exactly what Julia and Eliza said
Katie
2024-11-13 14:43:16 +0000 UTC
As someone who lived in Missouri where abortion and minimum wage passed on the ballot but Dems lost, youāre so wrong for this take. A super left leftist would never in a million years win a statewide election here in Missouri. I hate takes like this. Unless you live in a super red state or have actively worked on campaigns or volunteered to knock doors in states like mine, you really have no clue the widespread animosity and hatred red state folks have towards Dems and I promise if they were openly socialist or whatever it would be a thousand times worse lmao
Hannah B
2024-11-13 14:22:19 +0000 UTC
Thank you for donating to protect women in Florida.
jo š
2024-11-13 13:04:40 +0000 UTC
don't 100% agree with this ep, but i do commend your commitment to staying empathetic & kind & altruistic. ily girlies. idk if it's my age but i fear that the other side will never lend us the same degree of understanding. but does that matter? philosophically, you're right.
i also request that we all put our little STEMstresses hats on and deep dive into the world of tech bro billionaires, because this is one political aspect that we do NOT have to consider here in the EU but i think very much affected this election. those tech bros with their transhumanism have some insane visions about the world, and the fund$ to get a bit insane with them. those bitches are ready for us to literally die. they're buying bunkers and going to space and trying to iive till 700. never mind whatever eugenistic shit jeffrey epstein was on. and now their king is your new president's right-hand man
saiju
2024-11-13 08:18:58 +0000 UTC
Yeah, currently most of my friends iāve made in the past few years have similar views than me. I do want to move to the west side though! I did not realize spokane had such a large queer community.
Carolyn
2024-11-13 07:59:08 +0000 UTC
It definitely helps to have large groups of leftist friends stay in the city after graduation, it feels like that's one of the main things that has made Spokane more purple than red
Kaley Alness
2024-11-13 07:55:36 +0000 UTC
(and sure maybe me and my friends got called slurs outside the gay bar last week but our current mayor is a democrat which is something!)
Kaley Alness
2024-11-13 07:52:42 +0000 UTC
Awe, that makes me so happy for you. Iām from the tricities, and I do find it hard to find people who align with my views, so much that iām moving after I graduate college.
Carolyn
2024-11-13 07:52:22 +0000 UTC
Actually I've lived in Spokane for a decade now and it's pretty mixed! There's certainly pockets of both conservatism and liberalism in different neighborhoods, but we absolutely have thriving leftist and queer communities!!
Kaley Alness
2024-11-13 07:50:11 +0000 UTC
this is so interestingā¦ā¦.
KE
2024-11-13 02:44:36 +0000 UTC
Check out governor andy beshear from KY!!! āš»
Lora
2024-11-12 19:37:36 +0000 UTC
the stickers AOC posted on her stories are sooOoo telling (and confirms what was said in this ep): https://x.com/aaronnarraph/status/1855962504712552829?s=46
eileen
2024-11-12 19:22:08 +0000 UTC
and wearing a mask! in a country where health care is so costly and many ppl will lose access to aid, itās a low cost way to look out for your community
Maya Harris
2024-11-12 18:36:36 +0000 UTC
What the Democrats did to Bernie is similar to what happened to Corbyn in the UK. Our Labour party is now waaay more centrist. We have a labour government but they're barely left wing. Corbyn was destroyed in the media and party because the rich were scared of him
Eve Abdel-Moneim
2024-11-12 17:01:42 +0000 UTC
Yes! I feel like in my area soooo many people are in disbelief about the U.S. election when literally the same dynamic is playing out here
Grace
2024-11-12 13:37:09 +0000 UTC
This is a safe place to interrogate my beliefs! Thank you for this.
Lizzy
2024-11-12 00:52:22 +0000 UTC
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Vanessa Carolina Marcano-Kelly
2024-11-12 00:44:36 +0000 UTC
Totally agree with most of what you said, however as a lifelong Californian, I wouldnāt say that SF and LA are āfalling apartā, they just have a lot of the same issues that other major cities have. However due to the population being so much denser the issues are more obvious. Saying that SF and LA are falling apart in my experience has been a transplant and suburban point of view
Maddy
2024-11-11 23:15:37 +0000 UTC
i am begging you ladies to do a reddit stories ep i need the lols in this trying time
Gabriela Kauffman
2024-11-11 22:46:21 +0000 UTC
Saw a trump flag go up in my neighbourhood (Iām in Canada). Then I saw two. Itās insane how people support him here too
Athena111
2024-11-11 22:04:05 +0000 UTC
Unfortunately this right-wing ideology reverberates and reaches Canada too. We now have Pierre Poilievre (our version of trump but less senile and buddies with a few white nationalists) and a liberal party that constantly fumbles the bag. Not good. This guy also doesnāt want women to have access to birth control. On top of that not enough people vote NDP or cast their vote for liberals instead under the gueise of āstrategic votingā so this trump win has a lot of Canadians scared.
Athena111
2024-11-11 21:59:28 +0000 UTC
Hi friends, just a suggestion to support local initiatives for ranked choice voting or start one if there is not already. We deserve better than 2 parties that do not represent the interests of the people and we have to organize to get it. Love and solidarity to you all!
Kirsten Drehobl
2024-11-11 21:31:30 +0000 UTC
I won't lie I have told quite a few trumpers to off themselves but I'll try to explain to them why they are so horribly wrong now I guess! ty
boots
2024-11-11 21:11:07 +0000 UTC
as a leftist living and organizing in the reddest state in America (yay Wyoming!) I want to give extra support to what y'all said about most of us having similar core interests and needing to reach out to people with opposing beliefs! I have no choice but to interact with and talk to people who have wildly different beliefs than I do, and most of us have the same core concerns and desires- be able to afford our lives; be able to raise families safely and affordably; be free from the government dictating our day-to-day actions; be able to make our communities better, safer, and happier; and protect our land from massive corporate development (that one might be Wyoming-specific lmao). We disagree on how to achieve those goals, but I've found that once people understand that I want the same basic things as them, we can have real conversations. It's allowed me to get more centrist/libertarian people in my community to at least warm up to progressive ideas and see us as community members and not enemies, and it's definitely made me a kinder and smarter person. I also want to shout out an incredible progressive Wyoming state representative!! Karlee Provenza is one of our state reps, is one of the only people in our statehouse who consistently fights for reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ rights, public education, low-income assistance programs, public land protection, and Indigenous rights, and she won her election by a massive amount- I think about 70%!! Even in a state that voted over 75% for Trump there are still local politicians who are successfully rallying for progressive causes :,)
Hannah
2024-11-11 20:41:55 +0000 UTC
I will be taking notes from the monkeys who escaped the lab as a woman living in South Carolina
alyssa
2024-11-11 20:07:12 +0000 UTC
there are a lot of southern democrats and leftists who don't suck in govt! as many others have said andy beshear is an incredibly popular governor in ky. even tuesday, shomari figures was elected house rep in alabama. georgia has two democratic senators!!! lots of dem politicians in the south have come close (like charles booker) but the voter suppression and gerrymandering is so insane down here... don't write off the south.....
Kathryn Copeland
2024-11-11 19:34:19 +0000 UTC
if she wasn't a woman and if I wasn't so desperate to keep her as our governor, Gretchen Whitmer (Michigan) would be a great candidate bc even though she isn't "southern" she's midwestern and very much a champion of the "everyman." republicans HATE her though bc she cares about public health lol. but in this country, where the supreme court is repealing all federal protections, and states' rights are coming into play more, I want to keep her as the Michigan governor as long as possible lol
Leah
2024-11-11 16:39:45 +0000 UTC
This is exactly it. Many democrats shut down any negative speech against ourselves because they are too worried about the look of it all. But we will never get better without self awareness! Also, the only southern democrat who i think would even have a chance is Jeff Jackson. Iām in NC and many republicans and democrats alike love and voted for him.
Anna Young
2024-11-11 14:05:30 +0000 UTC
Great point MK, to me it seems like getting stuck in the liberal mindset of sweeping things under the rug. Though these last two elections it feels risky to loudly share dissatisfactions about the dems before elections because it feels like the right is actively trying to strip away protections for women, LGBT, etc. But re: your earlier comment, youāre not shouting into the void, we hear you and itās a point worth sharing!
Kayla
2024-11-11 05:04:25 +0000 UTC
No notes
Jamesy
2024-11-11 04:56:31 +0000 UTC
the most reasonable analysis iāve truly heard, yall are so nuanced and intelligent
milly stephenson
2024-11-11 04:19:55 +0000 UTC
Thank you I needed to hear this and great recommendation:)
Rylee Nelsen
2024-11-11 03:46:13 +0000 UTC
Exactly, we can't let this extinguish our fire and need to channel our anxiety and fear into helping build up our local communities and take this time to focus on grass roots organizations. Life is unfair and hard but there is a way forward !
Rylee Nelsen
2024-11-11 03:42:39 +0000 UTC
this is true! i see that happen a lot w some of my southern acquaintances/friends
Bella Romero
2024-11-11 02:40:07 +0000 UTC
I really hope he runs 2028!!
Abi Clarke
2024-11-11 02:39:51 +0000 UTC
There are definitely more liberal Christianās out there too who use the Bible to back up liberal policies but they are always ousted by the community and itās so sad.
Abi Clarke
2024-11-11 02:38:41 +0000 UTC
Yes, Iām from the east side, and everywhere I go i see trump flags and sometimes donāt tread on my flags.
Carolyn
2024-11-11 02:38:13 +0000 UTC
Agree! My family is mostly from couer dlane which is technically idea but Spokane and Spokane valley are very conservative
Abi Clarke
2024-11-11 02:36:34 +0000 UTC
Exactly! He kept it simple and people ate that shit up without researching š but people trust him because heās a populist
Abi Clarke
2024-11-11 02:34:27 +0000 UTC
Love this! Iād love for you to talk about why some people donāt vote Trump. Like yes Iām having trouble affording life and especially so as a mom of 2 with a husband in school (so for starters the board of education going away also means good by our Pell grant)
But also his connection with Elon musk and these terrible leaders. Like I fear people are selling us out in the name of āaffordabilityā but really.. things will never be THAT livable due to our trillion dollar debt which trump heavily contributed to during his presidency. The fact of the matter is we want it to be 12Ā¢ for a dozen eggs and 250k for a house but itāll just never be like that again. I fear with the rhetoric being spread by Trump and Christian nationalists we may be heading towards a state similar to Russia and china. I think thatās definitely something the Democratic Party needs to identify and address in order to show how badly this Trump presidency is going to affect us.
Overall you guys hit it on the nose. My dadās big reasoning for voting Trump was that heās not acting as a coastal elite. He wants to focus on whatās important to the common people and he wonāt back down and thatās appealing to those people that really admire āgritā whether or not it involves transparency and integrity. And unfortunately my dads really smart so itās sad to see his lame excuses for voting for Trump but you really made it more palatable to accept even though this country will definitely get worse in the next 4 years.
Abi Clarke
2024-11-11 02:32:47 +0000 UTC
book rec: elite capture by OlĆŗfįŗ¹Ģmi O. TĆ”Ćwò
baby yaga
2024-11-11 01:38:29 +0000 UTC
Fellow Southern binchie holding it down ā thanks for your work fighting for collective freedom! Happy to hear a Southern mutual aid shoutout from Eliza too.
Quinn
2024-11-11 00:16:15 +0000 UTC
Loved yāalls nuanced conversation on differences in leftist vs. liberal politics and the differences in which each position and think about republicans. Iāve lived in the Deep South and later Texas my whole life, and itās shocking to see the way liberals here are paralyzed and demonizing republicans, and more leftist oriented folks are just continuing to lay down hard roots with mutual aid and organizing. In my experience mutual aid is an incredible tool in political conversations (and in action!!!) to re-focus on whatās important (re: providing resources for people)⦠and with time has the potential to change folks political inclination. Thanks for the shout out to organizing in the South Eliza ā it can be a shit show down here, but thereās solidarity in the struggle. Thanks as always for a balm of an episode!
Extra: I started reading David Graeber in an economic anthropology class in college. His book Debt really began to shatter my world when I read it at 20. His work is beefy usually, but he does a brilliant job of trying to make sense of our world.
Quinn
2024-11-11 00:11:41 +0000 UTC
i understand what you mean. to me, the pod generates thousands of $ a month on patreon, they understand the reach of their platform and yet choose silence about the misinformation concerning american politics until after election day. this episode jumps on a bandwagon of yt women avoiding guilt and virtue signaling acting like they have always been on the right side of history. unfortunately this is simply my option and only a comment on patreon, so thereās no need to defend the hosts- they defend themselves by choosing silence on major current issues until itās popular. they could make an impact, all of us can by being honest!
MK
2024-11-10 23:33:15 +0000 UTC
I get that. This community for better or for worse is an echo chamber in and of itself, so itās hard to say if Binchtopia hosts would make much of an impact by making a comment on your original gripe.
Nika Kovis
2024-11-10 22:14:04 +0000 UTC
slayed this one
Meri
2024-11-10 21:29:18 +0000 UTC
Woah I hadnāt considered this before but I think youāre right. Super insightful
Maggie
2024-11-10 20:18:42 +0000 UTC
the morning of the 6th after waking up to the news I texted my dad, who doesn't live in the US, if he'd seen any headlines about our election and he simply said "no. is it trump? didn't see any news but I was speculating" like he didn't even know but he still guessed correctly lolll :/
baby.yogurt
2024-11-10 19:56:46 +0000 UTC
Palestine finally mentioned
Oli Chau
2024-11-10 19:14:32 +0000 UTC
that almost reference by Eliza was crazy, really reeled that one back in
tansy
2024-11-10 18:08:44 +0000 UTC
I want to second this. I think we're overlooking the fact she was a simply a brown woman. I think if they had run a loud, cognizant 60 - 75-year-old white man saying the same things as Kamala, he would have crushed. Right-wing influencers have been putting in the work to court young, undecided men and women afraid of being impolite or who feel like politics are too complicated.
I don't even think most people who voted Republican realize this influenced their decision. They just felt in their gut a man would handle the economy better and brown woman wouldn't protect their way of life.
Malaika Powell
2024-11-10 17:01:04 +0000 UTC
yall never miss
Emily
2024-11-10 15:30:39 +0000 UTC
keep thinking about how many places voted for leftist policies like abortion protections and workers rights while also voting for trump.. its cause the dems are fucking centrist cowards and there is no opportunity for liberation within a system built on imperialism š«”
Katie
2024-11-10 14:42:57 +0000 UTC
Elizaās been on tour, so they pre-recorded a lot of the video eps
KE
2024-11-10 14:40:00 +0000 UTC
binchy queens tysm for this episode, I have been reflecting on my anger w liberals and the whole imperialist systemā¦I could go on and on but it feels validating to hear parallel views from smart women whose opinions I value
Katie
2024-11-10 14:37:52 +0000 UTC
Democrats donāt know how to explain anything without being condescending, and in many cases donāt care to explain their positions at all. Trump was able to give people simple language for his āeconomic planā even though it was all lies and bullshit. If Dems had put more effort into breaking down how their economic agenda would actually tackle the problems working class families face in a way thatās easy to understand and in a way thatās not talking down to people, I think weād be in a much different situation.
lauren
2024-11-10 14:35:22 +0000 UTC
glass cliff theory fr
lauren
2024-11-10 14:30:54 +0000 UTC
More real talk pleaseee š„šš
Paola Ayre
2024-11-10 10:16:20 +0000 UTC
Iāll never forgive them for buying out bernie
Emily
2024-11-10 05:54:52 +0000 UTC
Just read we have never been woke and totally agree
Nat
2024-11-10 04:49:58 +0000 UTC
thank you for hopping on the mic! would love to see more episodes in this vein in the future š«¶
Emily
2024-11-10 03:58:21 +0000 UTC
how do u know she is right wing? iāve been twitter clean for a few months now (š§āāļø) so i have missed a lot i fear
abigail parrish
2024-11-10 03:49:43 +0000 UTC
I think this loss also has so much to do with the fact that Kamala was essentially offered up as a sacrificial lamb. Biden was going to lose, and she had less than 100 days to run a full campaign. Meanwhile Trump has been running campaign for a decade straight. People know him, and I think a lot of people who support him donāt really take the things he says seriously. Unfortunately, many of his supporters will suffer the most from his economic agenda. Democrats need a full on reorganization and we need to lay the responsibility at Bidenās feet, and his advisors. He never should have run again.
Hannah Rose
2024-11-10 03:15:39 +0000 UTC
Sam Kriss, his publication is called Numb at the Lodge
stonefruit
2024-11-10 02:56:38 +0000 UTC
Numb at the Lodge is his publication. Sam Kriss
stonefruit
2024-11-10 02:51:55 +0000 UTC
ig im shouting into the void. everyone seems to know what to say now that its too late
MK
2024-11-10 02:11:07 +0000 UTC
Are u talking ab the hosts or the democratic party?
Nika Kovis
2024-11-10 02:04:34 +0000 UTC
couldāve said something sooner or taken some responsibility in your privilege at any point. couldāve shown your support for the everyday girlie who has to worry about the price of eggs but i like listening to mindless slog it helps me endure the death of democracy lollll im bitter
MK
2024-11-10 01:17:30 +0000 UTC
Thank u for this ep, on an entirely other note I NEED to hear yāall speak on The Substance. Looking forward to the mediasode!!
Andie
2024-11-10 01:07:14 +0000 UTC
Recommend the book āwe have never been woke: the cultural contradictions of a new eliteā by musa al-gharbi. Touches upon & expands on everything talked about in this episode. Itās helped me with my understanding of what happened with this election. Another book is āparty of the people: inside the multiracial populist coalition remaking the gopā.
Sean Clark
2024-11-10 00:39:13 +0000 UTC
Iām a pregnant immigration attorney in Florida ā the reality of the next four years is so scary š« But you have simultaneous made me feel slightly better by rationalizing how the American majority came to this decision. Completely agree that the Dems need a real reckoning
Margo
2024-11-09 23:59:40 +0000 UTC
Does anybody have the username of the Substack author Sam Chris (Kris)? Who Eliza references?
tinypurse
2024-11-09 23:27:08 +0000 UTC
did they stop doing videos?
Ileana Solorzano
2024-11-09 22:34:16 +0000 UTC
Yet another episode of nuance perpetuation and fresh takes <3 #mypresidents
Eurydice
2024-11-09 22:31:18 +0000 UTC
!!!!!
Gina Brown
2024-11-09 21:52:10 +0000 UTC
this was perfectly said. the new american political party should be binchtopia. hava mclamb 2032!!!
Ada
2024-11-09 21:25:58 +0000 UTC
Tell me it isn't so...
Kris Lynn
2024-11-09 21:01:47 +0000 UTC
Yeah I'm not planning to stoke any fires because I feel like ppl like that want us to be the "crazy liberals"
Kris Lynn
2024-11-09 20:57:33 +0000 UTC
from oregon and can confirm!!! especially central oregon can be scary asf
tbh mattea
2024-11-09 20:35:45 +0000 UTC
sent this to my centris democratic parents and the said āWe cannot have a beer. We can have a Chardonnay, but you cannot put ice in your glass! - Kamalaās vibe!ā
Maggie Raedeke
2024-11-09 20:17:31 +0000 UTC
the violent urge to shove this episode down the throats of everyone i know
Isaiah Kyremes-Parks
2024-11-09 19:48:08 +0000 UTC
Does anyone have any book suggestions that have similar takes as these two queens?
Anastasia K
2024-11-09 19:41:36 +0000 UTC
hi, thank you for posting this org!! Iām a Maine and Boston binchie so I spend a lot of time in NH. Also I second Kate Glavan, her videos have really helped me make sense of whatās going on!
Lily Ana Verna
2024-11-09 19:37:07 +0000 UTC
I was looking at the election map again and realized I was wrong about the popular vote % thing, I was reading the numbers wrong, but the point still stands!!
Lily Ana Verna
2024-11-09 19:31:33 +0000 UTC
especially because surveys of swing voters said they didnāt vote for her because she was too liberal/radical on social issues. just by existing in the body she does people will deem her as too radical no matter what words come out of her mouth
kayla
2024-11-09 19:31:04 +0000 UTC
so... palestine ep when...
Rivaa
2024-11-09 19:25:27 +0000 UTC
In Missouri it was really weird because we went red all the way down the ticket but then passed abortion rights and workers rights amendments that our state government is absolutely going to appeal and pass restrictions for. We always vote for progressive policies and then put Josh Hawley in the senate anyway. Sigh
Meg K
2024-11-09 19:06:45 +0000 UTC
Needed to hear yāall speak on this thank you!!!!
Meg K
2024-11-09 18:55:14 +0000 UTC
really glad you two are posting and speaking about palestine openly now
Kaya Shafer
2024-11-09 18:48:32 +0000 UTC
Iām from a solid blue state (WA), and if you drive outside of seattle even a little bit, you get to conservative towns. Itās the same with Oregon and Portland. Both states are ācoastal eliteā states and are still so conservative, you just wonāt see it if youāre only in Seattle or Portland.
Carolyn
2024-11-09 18:23:01 +0000 UTC
This helped me not feel so much dread thank you š
Kathryn
2024-11-09 18:20:59 +0000 UTC
Before the left starts whipping themselves for this loss too much, I do hope we donāt start acting like issues around race, gender (āidentity politicsā) are only for elitists. A trans person in NY who voted for Harris cuz they want their rights protected isnāt really anymore elitist or rich than a swing voter in PA who voted for Trump. Identity politics rose out of the same place that concerns of inflation did: peopleās need for change. Letās not swing too hard in the other direction and do better for 2029
G
2024-11-09 17:51:52 +0000 UTC
The fear-mongering around voting 3rd party really stressed me out but I honestly donāt regret voting for Claudia De la Cruz and idk if I could say the same if I had voted for Kamala
Ann
2024-11-09 17:44:42 +0000 UTC
YESSS ZOZOBRA SHOUTOUT!! thats what the burning effigy in new mexico is called and i always feel insane explaining it to people from other states but i 10/10 recommend we need more communal, cathartic burning of things
Angelicia Ochoa-Rivera
2024-11-09 17:40:28 +0000 UTC
we need to stop sleeping on the importance of the south!! i work in education policy for a civil rights org in the south and we always use the WEB DuBois quote āas the South goes, so goes the nationā when talking to funders about the importance of investing in the critical work that happens here. thereās a whole ecosystem of us fighting for the collective freedom of our neighbors :-)
allison
2024-11-09 17:33:00 +0000 UTC
Crying as a female climate scientist in Florida
Aubrey Rion
2024-11-09 17:28:54 +0000 UTC
Itās also totally WHY both parties keep us suffering; so they can do whatever horrible shit they want knowing we canāt do anything about it bcs weāre exhausted trying to survive !!! Ugh ughghgh
avvsies
2024-11-09 17:20:37 +0000 UTC
I have a tip for the holidays coming up: when those inevitable confrontational/heated discussions happen at the family dinner table, you can diffuse it with something that is both true and emotionally mature: āLife is hard for most people these days, letās do our best to choose to focus on the good and what is in our control, and hope he does a good job.ā ā¤ļø the boomers will be shonked, trust me š¤£
avvsies
2024-11-09 17:17:58 +0000 UTC
andy beshear š£ļøš£ļø
allison
2024-11-09 16:55:01 +0000 UTC
This is the first thing that has made me feel remotely less horrible. Needed this
Lauren Gunning
2024-11-09 16:53:27 +0000 UTC
ope never mind then. didnāt know she was that far gone
lauren baker
2024-11-09 16:32:56 +0000 UTC
bridget mendler is a right wing space obsessed crypto person and we already have elon running our country so we donāt need more of that
Anna Cork
2024-11-09 16:29:43 +0000 UTC
omg do you have instagram? i love connecting with nh binchies! mine is @bellaa.romero
Bella Romero
2024-11-09 16:25:41 +0000 UTC
I want to scream this episode from the rooftops. Perfectly put in every way
Teagan
2024-11-09 16:16:26 +0000 UTC
i was raised republican (my mom voted for kamala, changed her political party affiliation etc. and i am so proud of her growth). anyways i was a trump supporter in 2016 so i kind of have a unique perspective on this stuff. luckily i was in high school + 15 yrs old so its not like i could vote. nevertheless this is obviously an incredibly embarrassing fact about myself. but at the end of the day, it came down to my social conditions. i was being fed right wing media from a young age and being rewarded for having that knowledge by the adults in my life. it didnāt matter that i am a black woman and am very much gay. i was basically brainwashed by conservative christian values, existing in an echo chamber w my christian peers, and was acutely aware of my momās right wing beliefs. tbh if it werenāt for the left leaning people in my life consistently planting seeds in me i probably wouldāve never left the church or adopted leftist ideologies, or it wouldāve taken me much longer to get there. i also lived in tennessee for five years and have a lot more compassion and understanding for the south. their education fucking sucks bc it is underfunded. not to mention most of their history is only taught from the oppressorās perspective. i really donāt think itās fair to write southerners off as ādumb,ā āracist,ā āignorant,ā or unredeemable bc there are a lot of great people doing important work in the south.
anyways i love yall - i hope any of this perspective helps literally at all.
Bella Romero
2024-11-09 16:06:47 +0000 UTC
thank u for sharing recs fellow nh binchy!!! š«¶š»
julia!
2024-11-09 16:02:43 +0000 UTC
i recommend any binchies follow kate glavan as a resource - she is a micro influencer who studied politics and law. she has been making more political videos lately that are really educational and comprehensive so i def recommend!
Bella Romero
2024-11-09 15:40:11 +0000 UTC
i work in nh politics and even new england isnāt safe from red ideologies. we have a republican majority in our state house and our new governor is a trump/maga cronie. this is how it starts and spreads unfortunately. i left tennessee with my partner for a safer environment (im a black lesbian and ellie is trans/has type 1 diabetes) and weāre barely any safer here. dems just arenāt organized in the same way republicans are and its so sad to see happen in my home state. as of rn i have no idea what to do or where to go from here but luckily i have amazing coworkers and i know weāll figure it out and fight like hell. (our org is called 603 forward we are an AMAZING resource for any nh binchies. we post educational stuff, identify actions you can take, host community events, and mobilize young people across nh)
Bella Romero
2024-11-09 15:40:06 +0000 UTC
There are Southern leftists, but I think yāall are right about there not being a ton of Southern dems left⦠People on the left living in red states understand that the elitist approach is not going to sway the working class. Iām from AL, but I live in MO now and I feel like our election was so indicative of how Americans feel right now; we passed an abortion referendum, a vote for higher minimum wage, while also voting for basically all red candidates. There was also a state amendment that used ābanning non-citizen votersā (which is already illegal) as a means of banning rank-choice voting, which fucking sucks. Iām trying not to be cynical, but I have zero idea how we move towards progressive policy without some type of campaign finance reform. The two party system clearly doesnāt work, but it doesnāt seem like either party is going to stop making money in order to make the country more equitable.
Anna Peters
2024-11-09 15:37:32 +0000 UTC
I think people who canāt afford food, rent, medicine etc have trouble caring about something happening on the other side of the world
avvsies
2024-11-09 15:07:08 +0000 UTC
I loved this episode and agree with everything you said ā„ļø I really recommend the podcast revolutionary left radios latest episode about the election āshattering the spectacleā for more of this sentiment and their ideas for building power outside the Democratic Party
Stephanie
2024-11-09 15:06:21 +0000 UTC
Same with comments about people who didnāt get the Covid vax. Many black people didnāt get it because of the historical abuse on black people from the CDC. Why would they trust us?
avvsies
2024-11-09 15:03:49 +0000 UTC
also andy beshear!!!!!! southern democrat king!!!!!! kentucky governor. he could do it
lauren baker
2024-11-09 14:59:27 +0000 UTC
we need jack schlossberg and bridget mendler 2028
lauren baker
2024-11-09 14:57:06 +0000 UTC
re: southern democrats that donāt totally suck. governor of ky.
kvz
2024-11-09 14:47:46 +0000 UTC
ANDY BESHEAR
kvz
2024-11-09 14:47:22 +0000 UTC
ZOZOBRA!!! Such a liberating and beautiful time in New Mexico!!
Dayree RamĆrez
2024-11-09 14:33:58 +0000 UTC
The dems absolutely shit the bed with Palestine, especially by not inviting Palestinian speakers to the DNC. I live in metro Detroit with a large Muslim and Arabic populations and huge numbers of democratic men from those groups simply did not vote (the women, of course, showed up tho) because they couldnāt put their trust behind leaders who continue to provide support to Israel
Melissa O'Keefe
2024-11-09 14:27:46 +0000 UTC
I really love and agree with your takes in this ep. Sending so much love to my binchies in the US from this Canadian binchie (whose country is facing our own right wing populist, Pierre Poilievreā¦)
Siobhan Carroll
2024-11-09 13:55:21 +0000 UTC
Iād been feeling really bad and terrified for the future and even though I still feel sick about the next 4 years and their impact on the climate & human rights etc. I needed this dose of reality that this episode offered. There IS a path forward and we can all be involved with it on the local level, connecting with people, building class solidarity through recognition of material needs. Iām hoping that as the oligarchs continue to loot this country for everything itās got there might be some recognition and we can gain traction by focusing on trump as the new establishment and yeah like yāall said going mask tf off. Disinformation is a doooozy but if we are not complacent we still have a shot at getting through to people
Greta
2024-11-09 12:01:58 +0000 UTC
listening to this from germany to distract myself from our own government falling apart š¤©
julie
2024-11-09 11:52:02 +0000 UTC
Iām just another California binch but a friend who did college in the south was fond of a meme that said ādont make me tap the sign, people in red states donāt deserve the negative consequences of policies enacted by their oppressors, stop using them as a scapegoat for the countries problemsā
Also I live in Germany like yes the afd (Nazi watchlist) won 2 state legislatures but its coalition rule with like 7 parties so theyāre gonna fight them with the rule book as only Germans can. Oh and part of it is the Libertarian party basically collapsed thru state elections and got fired from the coalition.
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Maggie Asher
2024-11-09 11:32:30 +0000 UTC
I just want to say that in Europe we still vote for people not parties. In France all parties have one person they nominate (inside of the party I don't think people not register can vote) then they run for president. Even coalition do the same thing, they decide in advance which candidate they are going to support
Clara
2024-11-09 10:41:12 +0000 UTC
Yes to there is no left party omg!!! I am french canadian and Iāve been in France for 2 months and half for a semester abroad. The French are woke af if you think about it. Even their most right wing party would NEVER challenge the idea of free education, free healthcare and social housing. When I realized that it definitely put things in perspective especially in the context of the American election.
Nora Bedard
2024-11-09 08:06:13 +0000 UTC
Fr I have been thinking that all week. Have democrats realized it's not a 'stupidy' thing it's literally just highlighing the privelege democrats/the middle/upper middle class have to 'look beyond' the price of eggs and milk. The NYT posted an interesting interview on the run-up with a Trump voter who wholeheartedly said she doesn't support Trump or what he believes but she had to be selfish because her economic conditions are bad. College educated people not only make more money in many cases, but come from middle class backgrounds where they (we) do not have to focus on bare necessities. And then we right people off as selfish for focusing on those necessities. The democratic party has abandoned us all. They have traded human rights (and lives!!) for a conservative agenda and oil/pharmacy/war lobbyists
Sarah Bowen
2024-11-09 07:54:38 +0000 UTC
i believe she was talking about Palestine, but not sure
clairevalley
2024-11-09 06:38:49 +0000 UTC
totally agree with most of what was said but I think it's also worth noting that we do not live in a post-racial world and kamala is a black and south asian woman who went to an hbcu instead of a traditional ivy league. while she definitely could've run a stronger campaign in some ways, those factors definitely already made her "too radical" or unqualified in a lot of people's minds.
Corinne Thomas
2024-11-09 06:30:12 +0000 UTC
^^^this!!!
Emma Kay
2024-11-09 06:29:31 +0000 UTC
I will say, yes, democrats have done a terrible job with running cities/states BUT never forget that most of the poorest states in America are red states. I lived in Mississippi for 6 years and every level of government was notoriously corrupt and dysfunctional. We had boil water notices for months at a time due to ancient led pipes in the water system and the money to improve that infrastructure was embezzled š¤Ŗ
Emma Kay
2024-11-09 06:28:04 +0000 UTC
So well said, ladies šš» We gotta look hard in the mirror with humility. I grew up in Oklahoma and I remember the Republican adults I grew up around always were annoyed with people from big cities who looked down on the Midwestā¦.sometimes for good reason, but the judgement is definitely alienating to red states. Iām new to the left, having deconstructed much of my right political ideology since 2020. It feels so good to see a party that aligns more with my values, but itās helpful to hear yāallās opinions as long time left-leaning gals.
Emma Kay
2024-11-09 06:19:52 +0000 UTC
also so sick of people posting the polling demographics breakdown showing that people with advanced college degrees were more likely to vote democratic as an elitist gotcha point⦠all it proves is that the democrats have stopped even pretending to care about the working class this is on their hands
aileen
2024-11-09 06:13:33 +0000 UTC
I agree with a lot of this, but if anything this election has shown that the working class are centrists on the political spectrum. I personally support Palestinian liberation but the fact is that most of the U.S. doesnāt or doesnāt care, so I think itās misguided to suggest that a resolution with Israel would have made Democrats more appealing to the working class. Itās difficult to accept that liberation is still very much a leftist belief, not shared by the majority of people in America.
Ella
2024-11-09 06:03:34 +0000 UTC
This 2003 video of Bernie floating around is well worth a watchā£ļø
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCFRbDNNGSJ/?igsh=OGthcnkwOXNuOXB5
Brooke
2024-11-09 05:13:06 +0000 UTC
Iām so glad you guys are saying this! Iāve been feeling insane seeing liberals post shit like āI hope everyone who voted for trumpās family gets deportedā and shit. Itās so evil and elitist and just proves Republicanās points about liberals. I really hope itās time for a huge reckoning and realignment in the Democratic Party, or weāll never win again.
Hannah Abram
2024-11-09 05:12:10 +0000 UTC
re: tim walz, i'm from Minnesota and he is pretty universally respected for giving free lunches to all students. policy proposals like that are so simple and actually resonate with voters regardless of party identity. makes me so made that they neutered him and chose to promise absolutely nothing to voters.
k
2024-11-09 05:01:16 +0000 UTC
Nobody is taking away our rights to vote or a free and fair election anytime soon. @thejordonbrown made a really good TikTok the other day about what it takes to ratify the constitution and add amendments. Republicans simply do not have the numbers to make such significant changes on their own, even though they control every branch now. Giving 18 year olds the right to vote took 8 years and that was considered really fast. It eased my anxieties about that part of this horror so I recommend anyway watch it! No doubt voter suppression will continue to occur but your constitutional right to vote is not going anywhere.
Hannah
2024-11-09 04:56:08 +0000 UTC
Great episode
Julia Tassava
2024-11-09 04:43:14 +0000 UTC
People love calling the south dumb racist hillbillies but fail to realize thatās where the majority of black people in the US live.
Kaylen
2024-11-09 04:39:43 +0000 UTC
Sooooo true I am so tired of the hypocritical holier than thou mentality democrats and leftists have
lucy h
2024-11-09 04:37:03 +0000 UTC
thank you for pointing out the coastal elitism thing too!!
so many people here in New England write off people from "red states" (especially in the south) and act like they're stupid, it's so unfair for many reasons of course. Also a lot of the so called "deep red" states had a higher % of popular votes for Harris than Massachusetts and New York did
Lily Ana Verna
2024-11-09 04:18:29 +0000 UTC
no it was SOO incredibly sickening to see just how many people voted for him, now that we all know full well how horrible he is, what he's done, what he represents. but at the same time I sadly wasn't shonked at all that he won, like the democrats need to get their shit together too, and everyone needs to be moving in a better direction
Lily Ana Verna
2024-11-09 04:13:54 +0000 UTC
āPeople go towards damaging beliefs when theyāre hurting. And it doesnāt mean that theyāre ontologically evil.ā Julia aaate
Senda
2024-11-09 04:10:26 +0000 UTC
thank you saying what weāve all been thinking queens š im also horrified by the fact that california didnt pass the prop to end involuntary servitude, i was so excited to see that on the ballot bc i thought for sure it would pass and things could change :/
lizzie teeter
2024-11-09 03:53:54 +0000 UTC
stay safe and love each other binchies
juicy shae
2024-11-09 03:52:22 +0000 UTC
*nick garros voice* neeeeded thiiissssss⦠Seriously thank you binchies. I think itās hard to blame the demsāwhom my parents get really attached to and who I used to identify withāas failing us, the American people, but I think thatās kind of where Iām at, thereās more nuance there obv, but yeah, itās hard, it really fucking sucks. Thanks for all that you do and thanks to this community for being so slay <33
Ryn C
2024-11-09 03:30:46 +0000 UTC
Thank you so much for speaking on the complete neutering of the Democratic Party's policies in favor of appealing to the wealthy/coastal elites. I feel like I spent the better half of the last few months screaming into the void, begging for this Administration to stand up for the marginalized communities they claim to stand for. Instead, we're fed lukewarm, centrist platitudes from a party that consistently fails to enact significant structural change for the average American citizen. People just want healthcare, the eradication of student debt, access to repro rights, housing, etc. but god forbid we do any of that for fear of appearing "communist." I hate Donald Trump from the bottom of my heart, but I resent the Democratic suits who've stood idly by in the face of unspeakable evil and expect us to turn the left cheek because "at least we're not the nutjob narcissistic baby hitler." - (idk if i need to clarify this but i am a leftist and i did vote for kamala, i am just venting)
Maria Alvarado
2024-11-09 03:17:00 +0000 UTC
This is literally everything Iāve been thinking the last 8 years. Thank you.
avvsies
2024-11-09 03:07:40 +0000 UTC
FINALLY speaking on real shit. I had begun to give up on you guys. please give us more of this!
Olivia Schafer
2024-11-09 03:05:29 +0000 UTC
Thank you girliesšš«¶š¼
Moera Kalafatides Hunter
2024-11-09 02:53:57 +0000 UTC
NEED a transcript of this episode queens
Crunchy Carrot
2024-11-09 02:51:14 +0000 UTC
Thank god you guys posted something I havenāt even started listening to this yet and Iāve been WISHING for your guysā thoughts all week
Lucy Norton
2024-11-09 02:49:43 +0000 UTC
this is most comforting to me
KE
2024-11-09 02:47:00 +0000 UTC
admittedly Iām only about halfway through the episode but this is like the longest mention of isr4elās war crimes that Iāve heard in the entirety of the binchtopia catalogue, and even then it was just crumbs lol
Josefina Troncoso
2024-11-09 02:44:02 +0000 UTC
You guys literally NEVER disappoint. Finally some good takes!!!!!
Kayla Arnold
2024-11-09 02:41:15 +0000 UTC
What is the āSam Chrisā Substack she mentioned? I couldnāt find it
Maryclaire O'Brien
2024-11-09 02:38:47 +0000 UTC
Oh yeah Iām smonking a doink n linsing on this delicious Friday evening
avvsies
2024-11-09 02:36:31 +0000 UTC
thank you šš»šš
tessa whiteley
2024-11-09 02:33:07 +0000 UTC
bless š thank u for your service girlies we needed this
Gabriella Sarmento
2024-11-09 02:27:11 +0000 UTC
Did Eliza describe whatās going on in Gaza one of the most evil things is all human history or was she referring to slaveryā¦
akura
2024-11-09 02:25:51 +0000 UTC
thank you queens š ive had covid since election day and this notification just made my day so much better šš
psychotichonda
2024-11-09 02:25:13 +0000 UTC
thank you, definitely needed
Zo
2024-11-09 02:21:05 +0000 UTC
2 binchtopias in one week ... girls we are eating well šš¼š©·ššÆ
Clio Cullison
2024-11-09 02:20:34 +0000 UTC
TGIF a little buzzed and needed this⦠thank u queens
alexis
2024-11-09 02:18:19 +0000 UTC
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claire b
2024-11-09 02:18:04 +0000 UTC
and I havenāt even pressed play
binchl0ver
2024-11-09 02:18:03 +0000 UTC
NEEDED THIS
binchl0ver
2024-11-09 02:17:55 +0000 UTC
Thank goodness
Gretchen North
2024-11-09 02:17:49 +0000 UTC
truly. thank you for this emergency episode
lils
2024-11-09 02:17:29 +0000 UTC
serving your binchies per usual šššššš
Kaylee Hayness
2024-11-09 02:17:29 +0000 UTC
Thanks binchies
Kay
2024-11-09 02:17:22 +0000 UTC
I needed this tysm
Hannah
2024-11-09 02:17:15 +0000 UTC
Thank you so much
Laura Lincoln
2024-11-09 02:17:05 +0000 UTC
Thank you girlies. š
elizagolightly
2024-11-09 02:17:04 +0000 UTC
thank god
Brianna Lally
2024-11-09 02:16:57 +0000 UTC
oh yes something to numb the pain
Jay Ess
2024-11-09 02:16:44 +0000 UTC
u ladies have no idea how glad i was to get this notification omg
yassgirlyslay
2024-11-09 02:16:33 +0000 UTC