Milk. White Poison or Healthy Drink?
Added 2020-01-26 13:30:01 +0000 UTCOver the last decade milk has become a bit controversial. Some people say itβs a necessary and nutritious food, vital for healthy bones, but others say it can cause cancer and lead to an early death. So who is right? And why are we drinking it anyway?
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Funny what you can find browsing old comments... π OK, I take back the part about you not being a patron. Fair's fair. The rest (political hysteria based on logical fallacies and poor understanding of evolution) remains at your doorstep, though. π€·π»ββοΈ
Dmitry Mandriko
2020-10-24 05:03:42 +0000 UTCWhere did this video go?
Jeetix
2020-07-02 01:27:12 +0000 UTCHi, do we know what kind of substance is fermented by the gene modified bacteria in case of lab milk? also is there any information what kind of startups are those who are dealing with that? thanks a lot.
Laszlo Papp
2020-04-17 15:33:15 +0000 UTCsuper helpful video.
Panton Phan
2020-02-17 04:10:45 +0000 UTCππ
Li Chunyu
2020-02-10 06:18:54 +0000 UTCThanks for putting in a comparison to plant based milk. Very nice video
Thorben Menne
2020-02-03 11:30:18 +0000 UTCNice video, but why are there bones in the background?
Kevin Zhang
2020-02-02 19:02:14 +0000 UTCLoved this episode, as always
Julio Aguilar
2020-01-30 05:14:38 +0000 UTCI'm a patreon. There's a thing called privacy settings. And this is a patreon-only post, if you haven't noticed. You are scared of hard social problems. That's your problem.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-28 11:40:45 +0000 UTCLook, Zheng, I know what you are doing. You aren't a patron of ANYONE on this platform, let alone Kurzgezagt. So you're clearly here not for the sake of supporting creators. You come to comment sections to troll and get your share of ill-begotten attention by provoking people to react to your inflammatory statements. Your toolbox is also quite obvious: "slippery slope", false equivalents, "connecting the dots", playing semantics, etc. β classical stuff. Well, I'm certainly done with you here.
Dmitry Mandriko
2020-01-28 11:35:49 +0000 UTCAlso "don't politicise" is a classic talking point.. As I have mentioned repeatedly, 1. This whole "evolutionary advantage" thing is not science, it has not been provided reference by Kurzgesagt, and it is controversial at best. 2. Science can very much be political. Evolution has been repeatedly used by white supremacists to promote their agenda. Since you clearly have no idea, let me give you an example: Eugentics, which is exactly trying to apply evolution on human, lead to the Holocaust.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-28 10:28:39 +0000 UTCMay I suggest you watch the video? In the video such "evolutionary advantage" lead to people with the trait taking over, not diversifying. What's your definition of "evolutionary advantage"? The example you gave is about niches, not advantages. It's funny how you think you can just use the word "advantage" in any way you want and then say it doesn't mean what the dictionary says. Also, I really understand why people get triggered by the topics of racism and white supremacy. They feel uneasy. They have to face the ugly truth. And they turn around and claim the topics, and those people who bring up the topics, as "toxic", "not belonging here". This is your hysterical response.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-28 10:21:29 +0000 UTCHm... Going to a basic dictionary definition while discussing a specialised concept in a complex scientific field? Interesting you should mention BS... π€ So you do insist that "evolutionary advantage" and "racial superiority" are the same thing? OK, despite your obvious attempts at trolling, I will respond. Hopefully, it makes your inflammatory and scandalous attitude plain for anyone here... Let me illustrate by a classical example from evolutionary biology: Galapagos finches, a.k.a Darwin's finches. There are around 15 species of those, each with its own shape of the beak. These shapes are highly specialised, making them very suitable for a species' particular environment: some have long and sharp ones, fit for pecking wood and / or hunting insects, others have think and robust ones, convenient for breaking seeds and nuts, etc. Does every one of those species have a clear "advantage"? It totally does. Is any of those species "superior" to the rest of finches or any other species of birds? The idea of superiority makes absolutely no sense here. Certainly not in the meaning of "being better than someone". There are plenty more examples of "advantages", including some really weird ones, like being infected by a particular virus of bacteria creates a survival (but not health!) advantage for some species of flies... Point is, evolution is an extremely complicated matter, and there is no way one can politicise it, unless one dumbs it down and injects it with hysteria. Like you are trying right now.
Dmitry Mandriko
2020-01-28 09:26:03 +0000 UTCThis is such BS, honestly. advantage noun. a condition or circumstance that puts one in a favourable or superior condition. struggle verb. strive to achieve or attain something in the face of difficulty or resistance. I didn't claim English to be a language though, Oxford Dictionary did.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-28 08:41:24 +0000 UTCZheng, maybe I can explain, what the problem here is. Kurzgesagt didn't equate "evolutionary advantage" with "being superior". You did. They also didn't suggest that "struggling to get enough calories" implied or was in any way related to inferiority. You did. So, basically, it is you who has conjured the racial issue out of thin air where there was none. You also seem to be very excitedly paddling it. And although some of your points are quite interesting (like the selection process in human history not being entirely "natural"), you generally behave like a guy who sees a white toddler push a black one in the playground, and immediately turn it into a white supremacy issue. Hence the claims of toxicity.
Dmitry Mandriko
2020-01-28 08:32:40 +0000 UTCOh my gosh they made a platypus. I knew they had taste.
Tim
2020-01-27 19:36:28 +0000 UTCMatthew Hwang agreed
Charlie
2020-01-27 02:29:46 +0000 UTCThis was very educational. Especially on how humans got into diary so much and what it means today. As well as touching on the other alternatives of milk.
JJ
2020-01-27 02:07:09 +0000 UTCManner of speech how? Please explain. Apparently, talking about racial prejudice makes some people uncomfortable...
Zheng Jin
2020-01-27 01:26:45 +0000 UTCI have been frustrated with pretty bad acne for a while now and I drink skim milk every day so thank you Kurzgesagt, now I know
Soren Colfax
2020-01-26 23:34:58 +0000 UTCI like the simple comparison of alternate milks. I finally know how bad almond milk is relative to cow milk.
Matthew Hwang
2020-01-26 23:01:13 +0000 UTCNo, it's an interesting point. It's the manner of speech and generalizations that are toxic
Matthew Hwang
2020-01-26 23:00:05 +0000 UTCThanks for the great video, guys! I sincerely appreciate that you didn't tip toe around the animal suffering problems of drinking milk. Almost makes up for the wishy washy moral stand in the meat eating video.
Sherbert
2020-01-26 21:55:38 +0000 UTCPointing out racial prejudice is toxic? Very funny.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-26 21:54:02 +0000 UTCZheng why do you have to be so toxic?
Dennis Barzanoff
2020-01-26 21:49:36 +0000 UTCIt's not like there haven't been white supremacists scientists. And they do love to talk about evolution, and using selection to make human race "better" (with a white standard). This is why we must be very cautious not to promote dangerous ideas in the name of science. Again, as I have already pointed out: 1. Kurzgesagt did NOT provide a reference for this whole "evolutionary advantage" thing. 2. The effect of natural selection is minimal when it comes to thousands of years. Plus, we are talking about human history (with a lot of war and genocide involved), so it can hardly be seen as "natural".
Zheng Jin
2020-01-26 20:27:26 +0000 UTCIt's not an excuse. This is the state of science. Don't spin this point into something sinister.
vorbei
2020-01-26 20:15:18 +0000 UTC1. In the sources document provided by Kurzgesagt, "evolutionary advantage" is not referenced, so you may as well not try to come up with excuses for them. 2. 10,000 years is not a significant enough time in terms of evolution. It might just be a random mutation that happened to an ancestor of Europeans. 3. It used to be "regional", sure, but we live in the age of globalization, and a certain race having a genetic advantage, and being more evolved, is a very dangerous idea. Such idea has been, not surprisingly, used and promoted by white supremacists.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-26 19:12:07 +0000 UTCThe evolutionary advantage in this case was inherently regional, developing independently in different areas of the world. Shown are the colder climates where food became scarce with the seasons and milk filled in. A case-specific evolutionary advantage does not equate to universally better, pretty much by definition.
Kenneth Cole
2020-01-26 18:49:11 +0000 UTC1:32 "Evolutionary advantage" for a gene that only exists in less than 40% of the world population, but can be found in most of the white population. 6:08 "Especially in regions where people struggle to get enough calories" - everyone is black. Your racial prejudice is showing, Kurzgesagt. --- EDIT: Let me explain a bit why these are bad. 1. Applying the idea of evolution to human history dismisses all the horrible things that have been done by humans, e.g. wars, genocides, and mass enslavement, as "natural". Also, talking about evolution on the scale of ten thousand years is, scientifically speaking, controversial at best. This is not "just science", people. 2. It's not ok to talk about something bad in general, and just use black people in the graphics. It promotes implicit bias. Simple rules to follow: 1. Don't apply evolution to human history. It's ideologically dangerous and scientifically inaccurate. 2. Avoid using black people to depict bad things. For Kurzgesagt, it's even easier - just use birds instead.
Zheng Jin
2020-01-26 17:59:02 +0000 UTCThanks for a great video. I hadn't heard about efforts to make "lab milk." I'm curious to see how that pans out.
Science Mom
2020-01-26 15:27:16 +0000 UTC
