Rewatching Young Royals Season 2 - Episode 1
Added 2024-03-02 22:08:33 +0000 UTCGoooooood evening beautiful Patreon family,
Here we go!!! Season 2!!! I am so ready to go through this emotional journey again in prep for having our hearts destroyed in Season 3!
See you in the comments,
Love, always <3
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I think I also remember the two girls doing this neck touching as they are getting ready for the costume ball in episode 4, when Felice is being passed the hip flask of booze as a ‘problem solver’. Interesting because one of them is in love with the other yet tells Sara that she can never express her real feelings in case she loses her best friend by doing that.
Ruth May
2024-03-04 23:42:24 +0000 UTCYes! As Dennis says, there’s so much to say about this series. This is an important metaphor.
Ruth May
2024-03-04 21:36:52 +0000 UTCOne of the things you need to know about the one of the other themes of the series is shown in the dream at the start of the episode. The dream of the missing voice. Willhelm needs to learn to use his voice to speak up for what he wants. Notice in the dream Simon touches Willhelms neck and then Willhelm touches his neck out of the dream. There are lots of scenes throughout the season of the neck metaphor. At first Willhelm is just trying to solve the problems with more affection but at the end realises he needs to use his voice.
Jayne Riley
2024-03-04 21:17:36 +0000 UTCYou are so right Ruth this is one of the main themes of the season. They both have to learn to understand each other.
Jayne Riley
2024-03-04 20:56:59 +0000 UTChahaha the casual “fuck off August” in the beginning made me cackle
veri✨
2024-03-03 23:57:23 +0000 UTCYes, in the English subtitles they missed what Felices says to Madison in S1E2, during the waxing scene. Felice says: "You can speak Swedish to me!" = you know how to speak Swedish. And Madison answers: "I know, but I don't wanna sound like an idiot." They've missed things/ mistranslated things and a lot of times it says [August] when it actually is Wille and Vincent who says the line. In the horror movie scene, for instance, it is Vincent who says "is this supposed to be a scary movie" and then argues with Stella. You can hear it is him, but you don't see his face so I guess they just assumed it is August because you see his face.
Natasja Mrdjanov
2024-03-03 20:07:38 +0000 UTCIt's not a common tradition in Sweden. It used to be, but nowadays you only see it in schools where tradition is important. We only have two boarding schools in Sweden and I would guess that they both still have to stand up when teachers enter the classroom. Lisa Ambjörn and her crew made their research! That goes for the on the table-thing too, that is a thing on the boarding schools here.
Natasja Mrdjanov
2024-03-03 19:42:16 +0000 UTCFrances, you are right on point.
Dennis Verner
2024-03-03 16:18:48 +0000 UTCOh man! I wish English was my first language! I want to say soooo many things but most of my thoughts come in Portuguese and it's hard to translate them. Thank God, you guys rock!
Ingrid Machado Pena
2024-03-03 12:26:23 +0000 UTCYou are just fine, Dennis! Your comments and insights are amazing! Keep them coming. 😉❤️
Ingrid Machado Pena
2024-03-03 12:21:26 +0000 UTCIt's common in conservative, religious and military schools in Brazil as well.
Ingrid Machado Pena
2024-03-03 12:20:03 +0000 UTCThe thing about Wille here is that he hasn’t fully realised-and doesn’t for most of season 2- just how much he hurt Simon and how betrayed Simon feels. In the scene in the library, he says that Simon is the only one he can talk to. He’s thinking more about himself and hasn’t even apologised to Simon. He’s (albeit understandably) so self-absorbed that he doesn’t even realise later on that Simon wrote the song about him, until Simon tells him that. So Wille’s journey in season 2 is a necessarily painful one, because although it’s clear from the first shared look that he and Simon are still deeply in love, until he meets him on equal terms emotionally, they have to be apart. In that sense, they are more separated from each other at the beginning of season 2 than they are by actual class divides. I know, Dennis..there’s just so much to say about Young Royals! 😂
Ruth May
2024-03-03 09:37:32 +0000 UTCYes, exactly. I also read that Lisa decided to make us in a sense voyeurs along with August in season 1 episode 4, by showing us very intimate (and therefore essentially private) lovemaking between Wille and Simon, to make that very point. That is at least partly why, once Wille closes the curtains at the end of season 2 episode 5, whatever happens next, it’s just for them, we aren’t invited to witness it- because at least for me, that’s such an important part of the story arc, the struggle to mark boundaries between what’s for public consumption and what’s personal, private.
Ruth May
2024-03-03 08:39:33 +0000 UTCNo, it’s not strictly a Swedish thing. It’s been done in most of the schools that I taught in during my career in the UK and I worked in state schools and independent (private, fee-paying) schools. Some teachers didn’t like it and chose to disregard it, but many, me included, thought it gave a useful marker for, ‘Ok, this is now the lesson beginning’.
Ruth May
2024-03-03 08:27:00 +0000 UTCI also love those kind of details and parallels! Also that in both first episodes there is a party at the „palace“. The first time Wille is able to stop Simon from leaving and they get to know each other more… first sparks and everything - the second time Simon leaves regardless of Wille wanting him to stay… which is a great way of showing how difficult everything is going to be for their relationship this time around.
Frances
2024-03-03 08:11:01 +0000 UTCYes, I read that explanation by this YouTuber as well, and I loved it! It makes total sense in my eyes.
Frances
2024-03-03 07:11:42 +0000 UTCI'm sorry, I do tend to go on but there is so much to talk about in this story. It is so well plotted. So many people were so irritated by the inclusion of Marcus into the story but look at how it is done. Just as with Wille burning the photograph, the first we see of Simon is when he turns at Marcus' voice and Simon's beauty is a punch to the stomach since we just know where this meeting is going to lead. And the burning of the photograph leads to Sara burning the flag and the light behind Wille's head, the echo from the party in the first episode of season 1. All of this is setting the tone of season 2! Again so many were upset that season 2 didn't (initially) seem to have the romance of season 1. But, come on folks, this is Act 2 of a Three act play!
Dennis Verner
2024-03-03 03:49:14 +0000 UTCAnd then, of course, it became an iconic part of the narrative. Where the end of season 1 was an indication that things were about to change. Just as the lighting of the candle, after Wille hangs up on his Mother, signals that the betrayal by his family has thrown a switch in Wille's brain that he must now find his own way. Either to be King or, perhaps, not.
Dennis Verner
2024-03-03 03:22:58 +0000 UTCThere have been several discussions about the meaning of the breaking of the fourth wall. I think largely it is open to the viewer's interpretation as is any piece of art. But, according to Edvin (I think I remember) it was originally a suggestion by the director of the first episode of season 1 for the end of the long, slow tracking closeup of Wille's apology. The best suggestion I have seen was given by a young woman on her YouTube page where she asks how would you feel if you were being watched, every moment, by the public, by photographers. Where every single move you made was documented. Perhaps Wilhelm is saying, fine, you're watching me, well, now, I'm watching you watching me. Do you feel uncomfortable? Good, welcome to my world!
Dennis Verner
2024-03-03 03:10:59 +0000 UTCSince everything I was planning to say in the comments has already been said, I’ll pose a question: When the teachers come into the classroom here, all the students stand until she tells them to be seated. This is not a common tradition in the US (at least it wasn’t any school I went to), so I wonder in how many countries this is the regular practice. They didn’t appear to do this on Heartstopper, Skam, or Druck, so is this strictly a Swedish thing?
Lane Wright
2024-03-03 02:58:44 +0000 UTCI’m already dreading episode 3. It took me three attempts to watch it all the way through the first time around. I’ll have to approach it this time as emotional training for season 3. I’ll watch this with you in the morning, but I think I can already say that my favourite part of it is the dream sequence at the beginning and I appreciate the beauty of it even more now that I have seen the way it’s referenced in the season 3 official trailer when Wille and Simon are at the Royal Palace and Wille says that he can’t believe that Simon is actually there, but it’s not the way he dreamed it would be. I really am looking forward to all the elegant parallels and subtle echoes that we’ll all appreciate in season 3.
Ruth May
2024-03-02 23:13:26 +0000 UTCMaddy is part Swedish and part American. She mentioned in episode 2 of season 1 I believe, that she feels shy about speaking Swedish. I guess she feels insecure about her accent/vocabulary… i can relate. I grew up bilingual but I’m definitely more confident in speaking German cause I speak it more. Though I’m fluent in English, I definitely understand it better than I can speak it. And yes, the actor who plays Alexander is trans. And it is the same actress for Malin it’s just that her hair is slightly lighter I think.
Frances
2024-03-02 22:55:05 +0000 UTC❤️❤️❤️❤️
IAmom
2024-03-02 22:10:24 +0000 UTC
