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How to refer to Naomi before we know her name

Hello all! Was wondering what you think I should do for a counter involving Naomi, Ray Penbar's fiancé. Here are the options I have thought of, but comment below whatever you think is best

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I think adding "woman genius detective" adds this weird implication. Like if it was a male character they'd just be "genius detective" not "genius male detective"

Corey Porter

Similarly Woman Genius Counter can be reductive Naomi Genius seems best.

Peter Amet

I mean even Ray refers to her as Naomi;before he dies, so I don’t see anything wrong with referring to her as such

Isaac Godoy

Oh yeah that makes sense, wasn't giving a hard time, just curious!

Yellow Sweatshirt

I prefer any of these over Raye's fiance. I don't like the idea of reducing her to simply being Raye's fiance. She is her own character and an incredible detective.

Vex Valor

She won't be around long enough for a counter

Sol

My thoughts exactly

Tmatts

Everyone who watches your reaction has probably watched the show, so I don't see the issue of using her real name?

Markub El Jaden

sometimes people watch reactions alongside the actual episodes. Depending on the show I do that too

Chelle

I'd put "Penber's Fiance Genius Counter," or "Raye's Fiance Genius counter." Having both names makes it a bit too long imo.

Zerodeus

That’s fair. Most of the detectives, and there are a lot of them, are male. She is distinguished by being a superb detective, who is also a woman.

keyton bush

There are a lot of detectives and she’s the only woman, thought it would distinguish well!

Letts React

Why add "woman" to the beginning? just do unnamed detective

Yellow Sweatshirt

I feel like nobody wants "ray penber's fiance" because shes so much better than him and it feels rude to reduce such a badass to that role haha Literally every scene of him we get is either him being really easily manipulated or pretty egregiously sexist to Naomi (I understand there is some cultural context but his character is American and they live in America so I don't buy that argument)

Matt E.

I'd personally go with either Naomi, or if you're concerned about spoiling her name (which I think is a silly thing to consider a spoiler but that's just me) then Woman Detective.

R. Lewis

Tbh it kind of bothers me when people do that. They should watch it before watching reactions, but that's just my opinion..

Tmatts

I agree, just putting it there in case, but I'll probz go with another top choice rather than that one spoiler wise

Letts React

i read in the comments that there are people who haven’t seen the show as well, so i think you shouldn’t give the name Naomi before it’s revealed


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