Warriors vs Raptors |GM-3|

I didn't know he was a part owner as I recorded it. I think that does make it worse. I cut a pod with James today discussing it more. He brought up a great point I had not considered. But overall I don't like the social out cry. Punish him and move on.

Athletic Alchemy

Alchemy I have to say this was the first time I disagree with your take. The guy that hit Kyle was a part owner of the Dubs and should have known better. The players have no way of defending themselves in that situation. I have to stay objective regardless of the player, even though Kyle can be a pain in the ass.

Yeah they're good, BUT playing against a hobbled team without one of their best players, almost any team will look better

DaniellieeE

Agree, not too sure at this point. We're seriously hobbled 😣😥

DaniellieeE

Okay 😊 LOL, that was funny, GO DUBS!!!

DaniellieeE

Oh I agree! Didn’t want him out there... not just because the risk, but also I think it would have shown a lack of control by the organization and staff.

Athletic Alchemy

If Green weren’t so bow legged he’d be like 6 10’😂 .... but yeah, the spirit wasn’t there from the rest of the guys.

Athletic Alchemy

Toronto hit flukey shots it's so frustrating to watch

Plissken

This was a letdown plain and simple. Steph came to play and gave the team the boost it needed. I think this game was lost mentally before it began. The team wasn’t locked in or believed they could win... except Steph, like you said. If GS sold out on defense and screened for Steph to get good looks, it would’ve gave them a better chance at winning. Notice how Toronto scrambles when Steph has the ball off of a miss, their transition D isn’t good (unless when Quinn goes up for a cupcake lay up). Toronto was HOT, and give them credit, but it never felt like GS had no chance. It looks like it in hindsight but effort and focus is what lead to them winning game 2. I think mental fatigue could be setting in but I also think they aren’t looking at this as possibly the end of their run. They aren’t playing with urgency. A dream scenario would be for GS to win this series and let Lowry know he’ll never get this far again. Preferably Draymond telling him that, and Danny Green runs like he takes pipe pre-game. I don’t hate anyone cause that’s not how I role, but their character on the floor is disgusting. Winning 3 out of the next 4 is a tough task, but if it’ll be anyone to do it, it’s GS. Plus Toronto is hobbled too. So we can only use the injury excuse so much. If they can get to a game 7 in Toronto, I really like their chances. Lowry were the bed at home, and will fold in the end. It ain’t over yet

Reggie Westley

You're absolutely right on all your points. But I think GSW made the right move sitting Klay. It is a must he is on the court the rest of the series. We just need to get this back to TOR 2-2. I have a feeling EZ Money Sniper will make his appearance G5. Then you know what's next.

Im just bummed because this could have been a great series if we were healthy, the Raptors are that good but we are severely outmatched talent wise especially without Klay. I aint dissapointed in the team though, we played with alot of effort but were just outgunned especially if Torontos going to hit threes like Houston

KuraiT

I feel the warriors are done it's time to wrap it up proud if the warriors but our time has come it's over I'm not watching gm4 not worth the emotional investment when I know the outcome they quit

The Warriors go as Steph goes, but that's on the offensive end. We lost this game because Dray didn't step up defensively. They gave 17 pts to Gasol. Unacceptable. The Warriors' defense goes when Dray goes. And he didn't do that in Game 3.

Lyle Mabalot

Fuck Kyle, he puts him in worse situations when he’s flopping and being borderline dirty. He was “pushed” on the shoulder. Wow.

Alex deB

The team let Steph down. Dray didn’t step up. No one did but Curry. Not even on the little things like HUSTLE PLAYS, REBOUNDING, and fucking defense. Damn Bo get your hand up! Dray, Drive the Lane. Quin hustle! Livingston this is your last finals, shit act like you’re about to retire and give it your all! And DC for the love of God, score on these hoes! Klay about to come back. I hope we can pull off a W in game 4. If not, KD get your BA on the court for game 5, IDGAF how you feel, if you scoot on your ass you will still have a height advantage on Toronto’s PGs. Make it fucking happen! Go Dubs!!!

Alex deB

Pretty much... just whenever I’m ready to write him off he make a big play like the end of game 2

Athletic Alchemy

I agree with you Alchemy. It was over at that point.

YANCEY WADE

I'm not that hard on them - these guys just aren't used to playing together in this kind of situation and they started really slow. But once they got going they were outplaying Toronto except for those damned threes that they seemed to always hit once the Dubs got it down to 7 or 8, the whole second half. I thought the killer was Tronto getting the first six points of the 2nd half, which pushed it to 14 and that was the start of the endless cycle which ended up right there. Toronto shot 45% from three and hit 17; Dubs hit 12 and that's the margin right there. Green, FVV and Fatty hit 14 of 25, 9 of 25 is probably more like it for these guys, and that's your margin. So this was a winnable game, even though no one but Steph really did much on offense. Klay coming back and even just upping the D and giving them a shooter to space the floor can make the difference. Boogie came up flat but he can reverse that with Klay out there, and I thought Bogut played well considering. Anyway, I listened to a little of the heads this morning, and they all have their way of minimizing the GSW injury situation. That red-headed stepchild Ric Pucher was talking about how it's a war of attrition on both sides, as if anything the Raptors are suffering is equal to having KD, Klay and Loon out. But now we see a must-win for the Dubs, because I really doubt we'll see Durant in game 5 so they need this one to push it to six games, which gives them a good shot at getting it to seven anyway. If Klay's okay the more they just play the better, because Boogie will get better and they'll be more acclimated together, even if we never actually see Durant.

let it go. he aint coming back....if he does, it'll be game 6 or game 7....and that's a big IF

YANCEY WADE

I feel you... the NBA math people play comparing performances and players is just ridiculous. I don’t engage

Athletic Alchemy

True true... but the context of the finals and our health!?

Athletic Alchemy

If they want 7 gm, how they called it in that game was the way to go.

Athletic Alchemy

It looks that way! Except the champs to show up game 4

Athletic Alchemy

Your more than likely right... If you have watched enough of my breakdowns you know I clearly have a different philosophy than Kerr on when to pull the stars. I thought it was done after the KawhI post up and timeout. Mostly based off the fact they were all hot. Not the deficit.

Athletic Alchemy

I'm a Steph fan but I never once thought about him getting 50 or wanted it particularly to be honest. I really made notice of his points total after the game. I get what you're saying, but I didn't mind him staying in the game at that point because I thought they would try to ride him so he can get us a win or get us to OT since he was so hot. Maybe I was too hopeful, but the game didn't seem out of reach tiill they were up 13 with 1:30 left. I really don't think it was about him getting 50. You know Kerr doesn't roll with that. Heck, Nurse even left his starting lineup in the game after ours was out.

Omg, the kyle lowry "post game meal" joke had me rolling. Good luck Alch throughout the rest of the series, I think we're going to go 7 games.

guni_800

You are right execution was as big a part as the effort. I’d say it was 50/50. There is no way to really highlight what Klay might have done on a given defensive possession. Of course he was sorely missed. As far as Lowery thing goes....I promise you I wouldn’t make a big deal of it regardless the player. It was pathetic, embarrassing and unsurprising...what do I have to be upset about.

Athletic Alchemy

I'm gonna keep it 100 Alchemy, I'm not as worried about the effort by the team (aside from Steph) as you are. I thought you were going to focus more on how Klay's absence from this gave the Raptors offensive a field day of open looks. This game highlights how important Klay is, not only on offensive, but more importantly, on defense. I don't think Green hits 6 threes this game if Klay played and our defense acted like a unit. Also, I'm gonna have to call you out for being so okay with the Lowry pushing situation. Just like you I don't care for Kyle too much, but common Alchemy, Kyle didn't even land on him OR his wife and he still made the effort to push him. If that was Steph and it was a Raptors fan pushing #30 I think you would have has something to say about it. All that aside, you the man Alchemy keep up the amazing work on these videos!

KD out for game 4 possible return for game 5. I'm fucking fuming

Ravi Dissanayake

https://i.imgur.com/iMXgZrj.jpg Get disrespected by media, gets loved by analysts. For you Curry fans out there.

Paradox

The refs were horrendous this game, like you said Raptors could do no wrong and they were getting all the calls.

Kahlil Baker

Kerr did leave Curry in too long last night, but to keep it real, Kerr has been doing that shit for years

YANCEY WADE

Transcendent performance by Curry last night. Gritty with all heart. If KD leaves, he knows that he'll be leaving one of the truest leaders in the entire NBA.

YANCEY WADE

If Kerr's game plan is "We're going to play Warriors basketball" without really making any changes, then it's over.

YANCEY WADE

Gotta let go that KD will save the year

YANCEY WADE

KD ruled out of Game 4. The original core four (and Bogut, Boogie and bench) gotta somehow come together. Can't be more of the same, gotta find something special, something new to grind it out. Probably starts w defense.

YANCEY WADE

In their defense, one could understand the insecurities some fans have regarding Steph. Just take a look on social media under any posts. So many people were saying Steph is a fraud and finally knows what it's like to have limited help even though he's playing with "2 all stars and a Finals MVP". As annoying as some fans can be, one almost understands due to social media being largely anti Steph/Warriors and discrediting him no matter how he performs

Matt Piers

Man I can't help but feel like this is all bad ju-ju from back when Draymond told KD we don't need him. Whether it's karma or it's KD pretending like he's still hurt to make them sweat idk.

carlosd93

Yeah they have to solve the PnR defense. Idk if Steph can give us 40+ the rest of the way out tho..I appreciate the support Thomas as well as your insights on here... thank you

Athletic Alchemy

Seeing that now... he is! But spare me the outrage.. I’ve seen so many old fucks act like that on different occasions. Obviously not on that stage. But punish him and move on, it doesn’t need to become some social outcry. Old rich fucks act like old rich fucks.

Athletic Alchemy

The guy who shoved Lowry is a part owner of the Warriors. What a douche. Entitled hundred-millionaires thinking they can do whatever they want.

Major Powers

We have scored 109 in EVERY SINGLE GAME, even with Klay out. I have no words. It's clearly enough to beat the Raptors considering how much they typically scored in non-OT games. So the difference is our defense. Last night it was fucking awful without Klay (and Loon). If we go back to just playing FINALS LEVEL defense we got this. We are better than this. We can generate enough points, we just have to make it hard for them. We rarely made things difficult. Secondly, I just wanted to say THANK YOU for doing these videos. I look forward to this post-game ritual, especially after losses. Your insight in these moments is something I appreciate a lot.

Thomas Ogas

I see what your getting at, but I think they have to activate him a certain amount of time before the game

Athletic Alchemy

Livingston sucks this year but we have to play him lol

I would prefer starting Bogut but if Kerr is determined to stick with Boogie, they need to just feed him in the post to start the game and just clear out and let him go 1 on 1 in the post. Right now they feed him but then keep moving looking for him to pass which allows other defenders to be near him and he can easily get doubled. He clearly isn't comfortable enough yet so I say just to start let him go 1 on 1 back to the basket and see if he can draw some fouls and/or get a bucket

slamandjam2

Did a team ever rule out a player before but then minutes before tip-off they surprise everyone and declare that player active?

Lyle Mabalot

Maybe I have too much faith in this team, but Ima say this... I still feel like we win this series... I just wonder if it would more impact winning 4-2 with the last game at Oracle... Or... Battling back from 3-1 and kinda whiteout what was done to us by the cavs in 2016... Either way I know my guys will prevail...

Nsikan Usen

Why is Lowry's ass so big? Because his body needed extra cushion for charge taking and flops.

Paradox

I think people say anything for a reaction and are prisoners of the moment.

Athletic Alchemy

He actually should have shot more. A contested 3 from him would have been far better than the garbage everyone else was putting up.

Paradox

kyle so bitch made that he finally felt confident cause the team hurt

I agree with Alchs conspiracy theory. If Raptors lose this, NBA knows there is a good chance of a 5 game sweep. Let's be real most NBA games would not have such close point differentials if refs didn't play a role in making games competitive. Cue game 4 2017 finals. Doris Burke with the bs 'Klay deserved to get injured' take and JVG's "oh Steph complaining about no call led to a transition 3' despite being in front of FVV are two prime examples of the incredible bias ESPN has towards the Warriors. Seriously pissed me off. Bogut and Cousins got absolutely cooked in PnR. If we had Looney this game might have been in our favor. It's a testament to Curry's greatness the game was a 6 point differential at one point. If anything he should have shot more. He was waiting for the entire team to get in rhythm but no one showed up. A contested transition pull up 3 is like 40% for Curry so that's what he needed to do, even if it was selfish.

Paradox

Return just to get trucked by Kawhi again, I don’t think it’s worth the risk in what I believe is a contract year for him.

Jacob

It seems like if the warriors had Klay last night and Steph did what he did, they would’ve won the game. I think Steph needs to do his thing again and klay provide that other perimeter threat to keep the defense honest. He will also bring that defensive intensity they lacked last night and I expect them to drop the whole “we have no chance so why even try” attitude they had. Should be a good game and if klay can get 20 to steph’s 30 they have a good chance to win in my book. Shared scoring load is always better than a singular threat. Example: Curry last night, Harden every night.

Jacob

Dubs played hard, competed in the second half but Raps got some calls, some luck and played better with their 5's although Andrew really tried. Nothing to be ashamed of still hopeful Klay returns and Boggie rebounds to right the ship.

Steven Stanley

Did you see the news that Looney could possibly return after they did some extra testing?

Ciara Dean

Hey Alch, what are your thoughts on people saying “strength in numbers is just the myth for the warriors after watching game 3”?

Refs ruined this game for me. Worst referee crew ever.

Alright Alc, so KD is officially out and Klay is in, we're not getting home calls, Steph is playing out of his mind and Klay needs to let that happen on offense if he's not 100% but needs to make up for it on defense and at least be that corner threat on offense which I'm sure he will be. But, level with me here, gimme some hope on how it's looking like for us right now. What can we do here to win us game 4 then hopefully get KD back for game 5? I'm tired of all these haters that just wanna see the Warriors fall including some of my hating ass friends who aren't even raptors fans talking cash shit like they are. What can we do with this roster from last night plus Klay?

Thomas Joseph

Only way I can see us taking this is to give steph and klay 60 shots, nobody can step up and no KD for the rest of the series from what it looks like. But then again, I also thought every portland game was over before we came back.

We need Klay to be able to go 30+ min rest of the way.

Athletic Alchemy

Bad sign is they ruled him out today!

Athletic Alchemy

Yeah that was my initial take seeing the footage of him the past few days. But the team has been making it seem like he is right there.... weird stuff going on behind the scenes

Athletic Alchemy

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1136717656852054016?s=21 It looks like Durant is out Game 4 too...

Ben

Usually they have more talent on the floor and it’s the other way around. But in this matchup now. It absolutely is.

Athletic Alchemy

Man..I’m at peace in this series understanding that we just don’t have “enough” to compete considering our injuries. It’s unfortunate but it is what it is. I’ll have hope if we somehow win G4 but if not, it’s a wrap. KD ain’t coming back from what it looks like. Not until a G7 and there might not even be one.

Another thing like you pointed out, the team didn't play like they believed that Steph could win them the game. But that was their best shot, why else would you even play if you didn't commit to your best chance at winning.

Dark Times...

Tre

"First shot is the best shot" I can't agree more. With every pass the defense gets in better position.

They had one of these nights where just everything dropped it didn't matter if it was off the balance.. Steph might have used a bit to much of his juice on a night like this for the Raps

Selcuk Taskin

The hell is the point of being on home court when Raptor fans are sometimes louder than the Warrior fans and Raptors gets the most ridiculous calls?

Paradox

Kinda scary thing about Steph's night is that it didn't feel like Steph was at his best..

Selcuk Taskin

Klay in, but KD out Game 4 :(

thatmattc