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Warriors vs Raptors |GM4|

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Warriors vs Raptors |GM4|

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KD practicing shots. Raptors cheered after KDs first and only miss. Makes 11 straight lmao https://streamable.com/7jnvs

Paradox

Exactly: there is no one else to defer to. KD's out, you have no FMVP, your time to shine and shut everyone up! Klay will always be by his side to help. Steph just needs to take over now. "Fuck it" mentality.

Lyle Mabalot

You're on point about Curry. He's gotta be better than that in a game this big. It seemed like he wasn't even focused. He had so many defensive breakdowns in this game as well. What we needed was for him to have the ball in his hands and have the same mindset and aggressiveness he had in G3. The issue in G3 was that he had no help at all, not even Klay. If he played like he did in G3 , this would've been a different game. But he was just off the ball way too much and simply too passive. He needs to realize what's going on right now and stop this deferring. There is no one to defer to. It needs to be him. He needs to take command.

Very interesting.. should get more attention

Paradox

What would they look like if everyone was healthy besides KD? Klay, Boogie and Iggy are playing without legs, and Loon without upper body - you don't think that's gonna suck the energy out of their game?

GS has to fly back home after game 5 anyway, why not win so they can play a game 6? Maybe I’m a super fan, delusional or both, but I still believe they can get it done. 1 possession at a time, 1 game at a time

Reggie Westley

Sad to think this game could be the last game ever at Oracle...

Draymond need to come back next year with a 3pt shot. KD being on the team the last 3 years has “stunted” his growth as a scorer. In the 2015 and 2016 playoffs, Dray was more confident in his 3pt shot. It also went in more. He hasn’t needed to shoot or have been dared to shoot like he is in this series the weakness is showing. If they go down, it better be them giving Toronto their best punch

Reggie Westley

I could see that. If KD comes back and we win, his narrative is complete. Curry couldn't get it done on his own, and KD won us these chips.

I'm with Draymond, if we play 1,2 or 3 more times, I'm 100% sure Draymond will give maximum and I'm confident he'll be followed by virtually all his teammates but if that's not the case for any Dubs player then use that info. to inform the process for next year's reload....and the Warriors players should keep their heads held high .....fans should be extremely appreciative of the teams accomplishments. MORE TO COME....BELIEVE.

Steven Stanley

You know who he is - He's Kevin Durant, that's who he is, KD Best Player, Let's Go Warriors!! :-)

DaniellieeE

Agreeing, if we lose now, next season GSW come back stronger with or without KD and hopefully get back what was taken away due to injuries. But still hopeful for miracle now. -GO Warriors!!

DaniellieeE

That's weird. It says on his profile he doesn't support anyone.

Bailey

Everything is calculated. We're lightyear ahead.

Ryosuke Kimura

What an awesome narrative for KD and Warriors. KD saves Warriors gain the king title. Warriors 3 peat. KD has nothing to prove and stay in the Bay.

Ryosuke Kimura

good point...we all want the 3 peat. Reality is winning next year would be much more likely if they lose this.

Athletic Alchemy

that it will be....

Athletic Alchemy

he has been my Patron for 6 months

Athletic Alchemy

Alch, I'm wondering how is the commenter "Steven" above able to login to your channel when he's not your patron or anyone else's?

Bailey

One of the main reasons KD would leave is the hostile local media. Guys like Kawakami and Straus. Same fools who said KD isn’t even needed on this team. These local media allowed the narrative to fester to a point where even Draymond believed this crap.

But the Warriors offensive is less stagnant without KD? Right? Warriors have so much more fun without KD, right?

I was looking at OKC-Warriors 2016 WCF scores and highlights on Google/YT. It was mainly Splash Bros. they just let it fly in game 5-7. Andrew Boget and Spight (spellings) were big too. I hope Klay has one of those record breaking games at Jurassic Park. But more realistically, time has caught up with the Warriors, that's why very few teams have done 3 peats. Splash bros are a nano second slower. They have played 500+ games over last 5 years vs. 400+ for average team (rough calc), that's 25% more games. Optimistically they can be Lakers of 2000 or Patriots of 201x. Basically take a gap year (my kid just graduated hence the lingo) and come back strong in the upcoming years.

WHY NOT

Ken Bradford

i feel you. its so painful to watch it end. :(

Lyle Mabalot

“I still believe in Steph Curry. I still believe in Klay Thomson....” That’s my sh*t bro! This is tough to watch but it’ll be all the sweeter if we can pull it off. Long live the damn Dubs

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/raptors-using-g-league-standout-jordan-loyd-steph-curry-stand

Walter Kim

i cant watch any bball vids after these losses.. i get sick. i am slowly accepting this finals loss. itll b better that way itll be a better comeback feeling for me and an easier way to cope with it if we lose. ill be back when the series ends.

Tony Stark

Warriors in 7 Alch. WE BELIEVE!!!!

Kahlil Baker

I think we're gonna see "Game 5 Klay"!

Lyle Mabalot

I hate to say it, but Steph just doesn't have that "mentality" Kobe and MJ does. He shows flashes of it sometimes. But when you don't have rhythm, its just the mindset of "willing" the team to win. Kobe and MJ were just like that. They just wouldn't allow it - most especially not in their prime.. And yeah, you're right, Kawhi almost always never goes to the left. If he does, he kinda pivots back again, then kinda does a post-up, then goes to his right.

Lyle Mabalot

Why hasn’t GS figured out that Kawhi doesn’t go to his left, EVER. He’s a smart player but when he’s forced left, he dribbles to make a pass. He isn’t aggressive on that side of the court. This was the ugliest game because it never felt like they had control of the game. It was like game 2 but flipped. 1 game can change anything but idk if this is too tall of a task. I believe in my boys, but what we’ve seen lately is that they don’t have the answers for Nurse and Toronto. Let’s be honest. On every facet of the game, GS is being outplayed. Coaching included. They’re a prideful team, and I hope they have too much pride to allow their dynasty to end like this. They going out like some suckas. I’m optimistic that they’ll play looser in game 5 and that may work in their favor but we’ll see. They’ve been down 3-1 before so it’s not foreign, but last time game 5 was at Oracle. They gotta fly back home anyway, so why not come back and play another game? Let’s go Dubs!

Reggie Westley

Okay but how are they deeper? Gasol, Siakam, Leonard, Green, Lowry, Powell, VanVleet, Ibaka. That's it. How are they deeper? How are they not exhausted? We use 10 guys give or take, right? I don't get it.

Lyle Mabalot

Is it weird I feel more confident about dubs getting win on roads instead at home now? I haven't given up yet, it's not over until that 4th quarter timer ends.

Paradox

I feel ya... let’s go out on our sword

Athletic Alchemy

No doubt healthy.... didn’t think about the possible celebration at Oracle 😬

Athletic Alchemy

Agreed.. I could see them pushing to 7... but win!!??

Athletic Alchemy

It's very hard to gather up any optimism from this series. All you can really do is believe that they will play to the best that they can. At the end of the day, that's all I'm really hoping for.. to see a great game, where the teams both put up their S-tier effort. Win or lose.. to go out fighting or firing threes.. whichever it may be. I agree with you that if we're gonna go out, I wanna see us go out with Steph not hesitating on the threes. If he shoots without hesitation and misses, so be it. But hesitating and then missing over and over again isn't a good look and is not the way you want a dynasty to end. People can blame injuries.. blame KD.. blame the other team for being younger.. it doesn't matter. You suit up to play in the NBA, you give it your best effort and play to your strengths and adapt where you need to. Oracle didn't help at all, you are correct. No way could I afford to go there with the prices they charge. I managed to get in on one regular season game against the Grizzlies and that was just because it was my mother's birthday and I wanted her to experience her first ever live Warriors game that she's such a fan of. We all felt like the dynasty was ending, as it really should since all great things need to end at some point. I just want it to end in a positive way. That does not necessarily mean winning the chip, but it's certainly not what we saw in game 4. This post is too long.. but I'm frustrated. I'm conflicted. I didn't like the energy of how Warriors played. Yet I understand how much they've been drained by the lack of calls, the media, the whole KD thing.. and the fact that they've been in 5 consecutive finals. The injuries. I don't think anyone on the roster is playing fully healthy. It's gotta take its toll. I always appreciate your breakdowns though Alch. Keep it up! We might be needing it even more than ever in the years to come. :\

Tony H

I do too.. but I also can read between the lines, and TK knows something

Athletic Alchemy

Its a sad day Alch. Its over. No more KD. No more Boogie (not that he was all that helpful aside from a handful of games both reg season/playoffs). The dynasty is probably over too. The bench will and SHOULD be gutted this off season. Livingston should retire, although he was actually pretty good last night. Idk how much longer Iguodala can go a full season. But damn. As soon as the new arena was announced, I had a feeling a very "49ers" thing was gonna happen. The 49ers were ballin at Candlestick. Then all their success brought them to Santa Clara. And the day they moved, there were trash and have yet to recover. Unfortunate how the same thing will probably happen to the Warriors. All this amazing success. The pinnacle of NBA glory. All leads them to a shiny new arena in SF.....and all the new rich stuck up fans across the bay will bail after a couple seasons of mediocrity. "We didnt want them!" - they'll say. They should never have left Oakland. Oakland road with them for over 3 decades. And now that theyre on the brink of a coveted 3peat, its all ripped away just like that. Injuries killed us man. I have ZERO doubts that with a healthy Iggy, Looney, KD, and an in-shape Boogie. Warriors wouldve wiped the floor with these Raptors. Each game has been extremely close and the Warriors just lose out towards the end cuz they run out of gas. The talent the warriors have can only take them so much when its this battered. Its been a great run my man. I'll tune in to watch your final game 5 (or game 6.....) review. But shit. I wont be happy about it at all. Thanks for being someone I could always count on watching the game with the day after! I always look forward to your videos after a game. But seeing your first game breakdown of the Chase Arena....just wont feel the same. I honestly hope Toronto wins game 5. I dont want the last game at Oracle to be where a fucking foreign nation team wins a championship. Fuck Kyle Lowry and his wanna-be Chris Paul lookin, fat ass. As for everyone else, well deserved to the Raptors. They stayed healthy and consistent. Kawhi is a beast. Win it in Toronto please. Dont wait to win it back here in the Town! Dont do us like that!!!

Jansen E

Interesting to see how Quinn Cook completely disappeared after game 2. Law of averages hit him, will it hit Toronto’s hot bench is the question, and honestly I don’t think it will. They’ve deserved every win they’ve gotten despite some suspicious refereeing (although that can be said for both sides) and if the dubs go down then so be it, that’s just a burden lifted off the team and maybe now they can go back to playing freely just to have fun. It’s taken a mental toll on everybody and I expect them to lose this series, vets retire on a semi high note, the team retools and they ride it out to the end with young guys. That being said, if they can find a way to win game 5 I think they have a solid chance at pushing it 7.

Jacob

Andre, Boogie, and cook had a COMBINED 18 points and 13 turnovers. We aren't going to win when you see that

This is what I've been thinking all along and yeah I could be wrong. It's likely KD won't leave if we lose. Because if he did, his whole legacy will be that he leaves the losing team. What if it's orchestrated that he comes back somewhere G5/6/7 and he "saves" Golden State and then he leaves. Wow, talk about a storybook ending, right? (Don't mind me. I'm in a bad mood and need to type my thoughts.)t

Bailey

@ Alch. Apparently Jalen Rose watched KD workout and is convinced KD won't come back at all. Even if he does, that kinda counters Kawakami's speculation that KD is not playing on purpose. Not sure who to believe but I trust KD would have played if he could.

Paradox

So it’s going 7!?

Athletic Alchemy

Keep riding!

Athletic Alchemy

Yeah it’s definitely character building for me in this process of becoming a pro.... Right! We owe them that! We owe them our belief until the very end.

Athletic Alchemy

Thanks for point it out, I can't believe how much the Raptors disrespect Draymond, how much space they give him. Iguodala, too.

YANCEY WADE

Does Kerr make any changes for game 5? Does Cousins start?

YANCEY WADE

Going to lose this shit even with KD if we don't fix this garbage PnR defense. Rewatching this is making me angry. ScoutWithBryan made a video on it thst highlights how bad it was because primary defender didn't go under the switch. If we fix this that's 15-25 points saved right there. Instead of Boogie dropping coverage with Steph fighting over the screen, just let Boogie guard the one with the ball. Then rotate accordingly.

Paradox

Ohh and I said it before and I'll say it again, FUCK KD

Ravi Dissanayake

Pack your bags boys we are going fishing!

Ravi Dissanayake

Cook, McKinnie, and Iguodala combined for 2/15. How many of those shots should have gone to splash bros? This will be on Kerr to adapt his strategy. He likes the bench too much when he should be focusing on a top heavy approach. Bias of having been a bench player. I never felt he used KD or Steph to their full potential.

Paradox

The not good enough list: Cook, Bell, Mc Kinnie, Jerebko, Cousins and Livingston.... Too many passengers on this Warrior bus. All could be released or traded in my opinion.

I don't think he was moving thst much off ball due to injury. So it's harder to get looks despite putting up 22 shots. Raptors always got a guy on him like Steph.

Paradox

Part of the reason Houston had the #1 offensive rating in the league is because they let their best player take all the shots. We have so many wasted offensive possessions it's statistically far better for Curry to just pull up in transition. Not that he had much energy last night, dude was completely fatigued but it's still probably better than moving off the ball. This lack of spacing is killing us while the entire Raptors lineup is a genuine perimeter and driving threat. I mean come on look at 12:30. It takes very little energy to get that open look off a PnR but we ran it what, three times this game? Draymond not being a floor spacer can be used to our advantage but we never use his high screens. If we are going to lose this series at least lose after playing optimally. We don't have the transition pressure like we did in 3Q of game 2 either.

Paradox

I was wondering.....why didn't they go to Klay much earlier. He was looking pumped. He was hitting shots from the start. I feel like he would have kept the game close or even expanded the lead. Instead it looked like he was forcing up shots later on to keep us in.

Francisco Hazel

I really appreciate you Alch. I could barely watch this breakdown, can't imagine watching a game like this twice. Warriors in 7!!! I'm not really a believer, but who knows "Anything is possible" Right???.

Toulivinho

I think it’s all orchestrated for the dying televised sports industry.

Fuq yu

It's not over till it's over, we can't lose hope ! That being said, next game is do or die, we might finally see the underdog warrior mentality that brought them to this stage !

Hopefully you meant 2016... if not your definitely a bandwagon fan

Man warriors in 7. I still truly believe we can make this comeback. I truly do. I've been heckled all day over my warriors hat at work today but idgaf! Warriors in 7 lmao. Riding the ship till it sinks completely. Hopefully they'll find away.

KendrickTheCreative

Its all speculation..but TK is too OG to just be talking out his ass imo

Athletic Alchemy

Imagine if warriors come back 3-1 though. Definitely will avenge the 2017 finals. And they've done it before, against OKC

Nikolai Kochukov

Yeah Kawhi is hard to hate on

Athletic Alchemy

Yeah its hard to believe..but Tim is saying the story will age well....Never seen Draymond with that type a energy post game.

Athletic Alchemy

Alch, that piece written by Kawakami is straight trash. Theres no way I believe KD being the Hooper that he is would dog an injury that he doesnt have. Well he has always been the scapegoat so let's pour it into him because why not. Draymond the way he was speaking in the press conference, and he plays this bad. I hope warriors come back from this as it would leave this dynasty ending with a bitter taste. However imo this cant be blamed on KD

It is what it is...5 straight finals is an achievement in itself. I just didn't want them to lose to the Rockets. I will live with anything else. Its gotta end at some point of time. When you're at the top, the only direction you can go is down. Also i secretly admire Kawhi's no BS style of play.

Vinay Pisini

I think Steve Kerr has been out coached badly so far this series, hopefully he can turn it around and get some inspiration into the guys

Kurtis Forge

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Thomas Joseph

Stephen A keeps saying if they win he leaves it they lose he stays is that what it is?

Thomas Joseph

this sucks but if any other team can pull this 3-1 off, it the warriors. Kerr should tell them to shoot 50 threes and let it fly hell lol

Why would he be doing this? To prove we need him?

Thomas Joseph

I didn't read that piece by Kawakami Alc is he really not that hurt?

Thomas Joseph

i doubt it, but honestly who cares at this point. raptors don't even play him.

OhSomeABeanLoadin

Bye bye 3peat

Gerrard Israel Laraga

Haven’t even watched the vid yet but before I forget do y’all remember the center Chris broucher ( might be spelling his name wrong) the one on the raptors who I believe was a g league all star... do you guys think that he would’ve been able to contribute to the dubs if we groomed him properly????


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