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Houses - What can be done?

We've heard a few questions about printing the halfling hole houses included in the releases, and wanted to address things.

First of all, most 3D miniature terrain at this point in time is still printed using FDM (Filament) based printers. This is a due to the fact that most FDM printers have larger build plates, and that filament printing is generally quite a bit less expensive when doing larger objects, compared to resin printing.

Supports are a very complex topic when it comes to FDM printing, which is why the house files are unsupported. Though in the case of the halfling holes, I would recommend if you are going to print them via a FDM printer, to consider laying their back flat on the build plate and giving that a shot. This may not result in the best quality depending on the FDM printer, but it usually means no supports are needed, which means no quality loss from having supports. Beyond that there are of course vertical and 45 degree orientations/etc.

We test printed all the houses using both FDM printers (Any with a 200x200mm build plate which is fairly standard will fit all the houses fine), as well as in resin using a Form 3 printer, with the houses angled at around 45-60 degrees, and supports along the back of the house.

What if you don't have a FDM Printer?
If you are wanting to print one of the house models out on a regular consumer grade resin printer like an Elegoo Mars, or Anycubic Photon, Phrozen Sonic Mini, etc, all of which have fairly small build plates there are only a few options unfortunately.

1. You can scale the model down until you can fit it on the build plate of your printer. I would recommend a steep angle to minimize the shrinkage, and to keep most of the supports towards the flat back of the model that isn't normally seen.

2. You can cut the model into multiple sections. Or if there is interest, we're happy to split the houses into 2 or 3 sections to fit most resin printers. This may of course result in some visible seam lines where the pieces need to be glued together.

3. If you are interested in printing larger terrain pieces in resin, you should also consider looking at a wave of new printers that are starting to come to market, which are all larger build volumes. There are quite a few options on the market at the moment, Peopoly Phenom, Phrozen Transform, Epax 10.1", etc. Supposedly end of November Elegoo will also be releasing the Saturn which has a larger build volume, is 4k resolution, and should retail atleast in the USA for around $500, making it likely the cheapest large format resin printer available.

The future at One Gold Piece:
Moving forward after our initial halfling adventure, we will in general no longer be releasing larger terrain pieces which can't fit on regular size resin printers. If large format resin printing becomes more common place, we will look at this issue again.

Houses - What can be done?

Comments

No worries, the one shown hasn't been released yet actually. Spoiler..

Wyrm Forge

Printed on its flat back it shouldn't need any supports. Printed vertically, the roof overhang is questionable on some printers, and may need supports, unless angled/etc.

Wyrm Forge

It seems this was released before I joined as I don't see it in the Welcome box or the September release.

Dreadknot

I haven't looked at these files myself yet but I know I've printed some Halfling hole facades that were on thingiverse and also some from another patreon. I've never needed supports, just printed them vertically with a brim on my Ender 3. I'll have to look at these files and see what's different but perhaps you could angle the roof slightly. This really doesn't look like something that should need supports on FDM.

Dreadknot

Thanks Jack! This was the first time in 20 years that I've made 'on the go' terrain that one can drop on and swipe of the table in an instant! We will soon host a poll to find out which of the 'extras' (crafting, maps, rules) are of real interest to our backers.

Wyrm Forge

I have 1 resin, 1 FDM: 1 for minis, 1 for terrain. I personally love the houses offered so far, and loved that they encourage incorporating your the house fronts into your own personalized, sculpted hills. It's some welcome creativity, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing more like them.

Jack Walsh

I suspect that for builds meant for younger end users, FDM is a better choice - the models are SOLID. But, ye gads, our Patreon bill for October 1st was $51. (Pretty sure you can guess where that stray $1 came from.)

Dennis O'Brien

This sounds like the right kind of family life! My youngest is 3 and likes chucking dice and robots. :--)

Wyrm Forge

It has also led to my wife adding digital modeling to her courses for the Maine College of Art - so it is by no means a bad thing. Also... there are some freaking awesome Patreons out there, producing outstanding models - the first she printed was a 'Hive colossus' (umber hulk) for our daughter - to attack her Weebles. We are raising a young nerd girl. :) Aside from a few antiques, we hand crafted her Weebles ourselves. One of Megan's first projects is 3D printing Weebles.... (Megan is my wife.) *EDIT* The umber hulk's name is apparently 'Rarr!'. Our daughter is four.

Dennis O'Brien

Yeah, as if a good stash of minis would've ever kept anybody from buying more. :---)

Wyrm Forge

We got the Creality CR-6 SE from the Kickstarter - since she started playing with it, my wife has decided that we need a resin printer as well. I thought we would mostly be printing terrain, since we each have a ton of minis already....

Dennis O'Brien

Well. It seems like you're in luck good sir!

Wyrm Forge

At this point in time, and FDM printer is all we have. :P I would suggest looking at where the seam lines could naturally be hidden, in regards to resin printers - looking at the Halfling Hole, I would put the breaks between the uprights flanking the door. Pretty sure I could manage it with Meshmixer - and I am far from expert. Heck, telling people where to find Meshmixer might help - it's free, and on both Apple and PC. https://www.meshmixer.com/

Dennis O'Brien

I don't think it is, but the question was raised by more than 1 backer, and we're happy to address it.

Wyrm Forge

That's true when you have a certain level of experience. I read many comments of backers that welcome the idea of having this print ready!

Wyrm Forge

I'm pretty confused by this - you could easily cut it down the beams and get two on a plate with very fey supports

Gomez

I haven't done it myself, but I've heard that splitting large prints into smaller parts isn't all that difficult?

Joey Jar Jar Junior Shabadoo

We were designing the buildings with that in mind! Ideally you should be able to pop out the doors and windows, which would already offer some variety, but we will put a poll out soon to see what people really like to see during our halfling run.

Wyrm Forge

I’m just hoping for some separate windows and such to imply the house extends all over under the hill or whatever. I’m so happy you started with halfling houses!

David Ammann

You're absolutely correct. It seems when I initially looked at these it was for the Sonic Mini which has a lower Z max and they didn't want to fit even angled. Changing to the Mars its a very tight fit, but they do fit.

Wyrm Forge

I agree with you splitting them for those of us that do not know how to do it.

Tony Nelson

Haven’t printed it yet since I’m waiting for a replacement LED screen, but playing around in Chitubox it fits on an Elegoo at like a 45 degree angle. Which is how most people print stuff anyway. It’s relatively flat and one side of it is going to be obscured so supports shouldn’t be much of an issue.

Thannak


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