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PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women don't know what they want

PATREON EXCLUSIVE (Full Video): Women don't know what they want

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@JO Yeah, I don’t think she’s used to being teased & done well, it’s a very powerful tool. Many women love mystery too. Haven’t seen Xena yet (I prefer HD shows) but I enjoyed Smallville.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Interesting. Well, ironically enough, part of my apparent allure DID seem to have had something to do with my frequent teasing AND mystery (including guesses to my age being alternately 22, 88 and many in between) -- in fact, though deleted now, she herself EXPLICITLY commented as such near the end, even implying that there just HAD to be a reciprocated infatuation. You may stumble upon my end of the responses to references to Xena - Warrior Princess (and her sidekick, Gabrielle), as well as Smallville.

Joseph Omega

@JO That’s why I really wonder if it could be hormonal - maybe it’s to do with why she needs surgery. It’s very strange that she blocked you last despite your persistence. Maybe something about you just really got to her in both a good way and a bad way? Like an unwanted crush? Btw, are you really 88? (No ageism implied; I assume that you were being truthful but felt I should verify!).

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Fascinating! 🤔 Yet, despite her continual protestations, I was the very LAST person she chose to block, and that itself lasted less than 24 hours. I got the DISTINCT impression that she believed no one paid her much attention here despite her stream of acidic, anti-redpill remarks, and before I made a DELIBERATE effort to start calling her out on each and every one of them about 6 months or so ago. With your longer interaction (and gendered perspective), I would be VERY interested in your speculations on what could account for this relatively abrupt turn around?

Joseph Omega

EC & I have both been on here for years and she never blocked people or deleted comments until you started talking to her. The timing could be coincidental, but something changed.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Actually, I'd found her behavior QUITE erratic from day one. What I DID notice (and that you may have missed from her end of those conversations) was how much her behavior actually STABILIZED near the end -- she stopped blocking (going so far as to UNblock), stopped deleting messages (largely by curbing her regretful comments in the first place), admitted to being "red pilled" (unsolicited remark), and gradually phrasing things in a more feminine (and less confrontational) manner. I think you would have been proud of her.

Joseph Omega

@JO Thank you for the information. I’m very sorry to hear about her surgery, but I hope that all goes well and while I’ve tried to read some of your comments, it’s just way too frustrating for me without being able to see hers as well. I do not have the patience for that, & probably lack the ability to extrapolate what she might have said. Very strange how her behaviour got so erratic, though. But maybe that’s part of her red pill process. If so, then you have definitely done the world a service.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Well, from what she had been saying for many weeks prior to leaving, she had major uterine surgery scheduled, as well as therapy -- she was considering joining the sessions hosted by Alexander's wife, Emily. She'd also mentioned that she may be back under an entirely different name sometime soon -- maybe with issues resolved? I may be wrong, but I got the impression there had even been a significant shift in her attitudes in the waning days -- she'd even suggested that, largely the result of Alexander's and my influence, she'd been "red-pilled". Who knows -- stranger things have happened. PS. Although her end of all the conversations had been deleted along with her account, my end still endures -- though it may be one-sided, you may get a glimpse into her evolved temperament via my responses and comments to her within very many threads. Also, yours was not the only account I'd managed to convince her to unblock near the end. In a fit of typical passion she had even blocked ME ... for all of a day or so.

Joseph Omega

@JO Strange. I feel like she left because she embarrassed herself. She had some issues, but don’t we all? I hope she’s doing well. Maybe time away from here will be healing for her. Or maybe she’s going through some (peri)menopausal crazy times. 😅

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Seems like we may be SOMEWHAT in agreement, except that I don't automatically equate "weakness" with "failure" -- some (if not ALL) weaknesses are simply unrecognized or unfulfilled POTENTIALS. PS. @E C has left the building -- deleted her account -- about a month or so ago now. She revisited briefly to "say goodbye" here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/111387544

Joseph Omega

Many of those people would not be failures by my standards, but some of them would be. Can really only be determined on a case by case basis. I think most people are well intentioned but I also think that most people are weak, which leads to a number of problems. Btw… what on earth happened with EC? I am very curious!

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - That sounds rather harsh to me. Most REGULAR people live simple lives of "quiet desperation", doing their jobs and maybe raising their kids to the very best of their ability, holding the fabric of society together -- the "salt of the earth". They may not be SUCCESSES in the classically HEROIC sense, but I certainly would NOT call them "failures".

Joseph Omega

Yes, agreed, it is relative, but I stand by my statement. A failed person is one who does not have & raise good children or contribute something of substantial importance to society.

RhodiumMaiden

@RhodiumMaiden - Perhaps, but this may be a RELATIVE comparison, as men are ACTIVELY (and often VICIOUSLY) held to account for their lack of accountability and focus, whereas I see very little incentive for women to do the same. It is theoretically possible that, not having the direct experience yourself, you may be unaware of the sheer DEPTH and SCOPE of the social pressure exerted upon males to succeed (even, and maybe ESPECIALLY, by females themselves). Nowadays, what EXACTLY would constitute a "failed woman"?

Joseph Omega

@JO I agree completely about Matt Walsh. I don’t find his attitude appealing.

RhodiumMaiden

Most PEOPLE.

RhodiumMaiden

@Eric Linden - Yes, I agree that Matt Walsh IS spot on here (as elsewhere). But, as I said, I don't really like his style. We are on the same page.

Joseph Omega

I do like Matt Walsh and usually agree with him, though he does go on and on sometimes making a 3 minute point take 20 minutes. However, the clip I posted was about an episode of Alex Cooper’s Call Her Daddy podcast which relates to AG’s video we are commenting on and JO’s Karen Straughan video. MW is spot on here, and AG would agree with him on this one.

Eric Linden

@E C - Leadership WITHOUT respect seems a contradiction, if not anathema.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I can't say that I like Matt Walsh very much -- he always struck me as a bit too "rude, disrespectful and cocky". But then again, there are many (including some women, go figure) who find this attractive. Even though he has a full manly beard, his masculinity does not come across as very "stoic" or controlled -- instead, he seems uncharacteristically and unregulatedly emotive. All that said, I've agreed with almost ALL the points I've EVER heard him make (especially those in his "What is a Woman?" documentary). Still, I'm MORE than a little surprised to hear @E C admit to agreeimg with ANYTHING that he had to say -- I would have more expected an IMMEDIATE and UNAMBIGUOUS charge of "Misogynist", at the very least. But what both Alexander and @E C have shown, is that females are not automatically repulsed by a predictably consistent set of attributes. As far is "maturity" is concerned, I personally think that men and women DO mature at SIGNIFICANTLY different, but COMPLEMENTARY rates: WOMEN quicker and earlier in the areas of Social intelligence, as well as the INTERpersonal component of Emotional Intelligence (understanding and interpreting the emotions, intentions, motivations, and desires of OTHERS), while MEN mature faster in the areas of Cognitive Intelligence, as well as the INTRApersonal component of Emotional Intelligence (revolving around SELF-awareness, SELF-reflection, and understanding one's OWN emotions, motivations, desires, and other INTERNAL psychological processes).

Joseph Omega

@Joseph - Great video. Explains a lot. Here's another. Just came out yesterday. https://youtu.be/OXaqwAUTTLA?si=l6HPfr-QwXkz3ej4

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - Indeed. Many (if not MOST) men TEND to choose women for their NEOTENOUS characteristics, both PHYSICALLY and MENTALLY. Or, as I sometimes like to say: "Men have women, and women have babies." Check out Karen Straughan's classic video on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C46rSIfTum4

Joseph Omega

Most women don't know what they want, and don't have a burning desire to understand themselves.

Eric Linden

Men and women both look for different things in the beginning, but there is a difference. Men look for a hot woman who matches the look he individually prefers. But after a short time, if he discovers there is nothing between the ears, he rejects her. We want a certain amount of intelligence. We want both things. And we learn from our experiences. The young woman in the beginning of the video wants a good Christian man. But every time she dumps him for some reason. She says it’s because he’s too nice. But Grandma knows she isn’t learning. She needs to pick differently, but she doesn’t. I don’t think this is all women. And I don’t think all men are the opposite. But the tendency is there. Women tend to learn what to look for much more slowly. So much for women being more mature than men.

Eric Linden

Saying “All men are _____” actually means “All men I’ve chosen in the past are _____”

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - Indeed. Agree 💯% 👍

Joseph Omega

The problem is affirmation therapy. If the therapist or book writer was AG, Orion Taraban, or Jordan Peterson, I wouldn't worry about that.

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - Not until the therapy models and books have been reworked (or maybe "rewoked").

Joseph Omega

Who thinks going to therapy and reading self help books will improve the situation?

Eric Linden

@Eric Linden - 😂

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I personally never "fight" with my nature -- at best I work WITH it, THROUGH it or AROUND it. Maybe sematics, but it works for me.

Joseph Omega

@Joseph - As you know, Stuart Smalley became a Senator. But he wasn’t good enough or smart enough, and his own party didn’t end up liking him.

Eric Linden

@Joseph and @Peter - It’s a battle between instinct and culture. Polygamy is an instinct. We fight it, and most of us would agree monogamy is better. We often criticize the way the culture is evolving, but overall the culture is a positive. Our personal experiences, our trials and tribulations, teach us to fight or put aside other instincts. Plus we have different instincts as we age.

Eric Linden

@Joseph - She hits it and gets it here. Glad you pointed this one out. I watched her videos for a month. She started out really good. Now about one out of 10 is good, 9 out of 10 are boring. And once a month she has an awesome one. I just don’t have the time.

Eric Linden

If you want to know a woman, look at the choices she’s made in the past.

Eric Linden

Granted she often spews the most ditzy stream of consciousness opinions and advice (and maybe even BECAUSE of this), Kiera Lhotan's recent video may be of particular relevence in order to gain an insight into the female thought process on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neWLq6ks8ak To me (and judging by the impressive growth of her channel and the nature of the associated comments), there is always an element of "female truth" in her "womanese" rants on social topics that many men find both fascinating and highly obscure.

Joseph Omega

@Peter - This is a VERY good point: Because of their susceptibility to "social contagions", even "good high-quality women" can EASILY fall prey to the self-reinforcing, self-defeating and self-victimizing ideology of "the devil made me do it", whether that devil be SPECIFIC men or the "Patriarchy". To compound it, as many a modern psychologist (like @paddy darcy) would attest, "affirmation therapy" has crept into mainstream usage and is no longer questioned, so that even if a woman who genuinely WANTS to understand themselves and to change, any therapist they go to may be COMPELLED to have them tell themselves variants of "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ldAQ6Rh5ZI

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - I too love the "battle tested vs. battle ruined" metaphor. But I would like to suggest that, instead of saying men and women should be FIGHTING their evolutionary instincts, instead I think they should RECOGNIZE, ACCEPT then LEARN from them -- THIS seems to be why "battle tested" may be a superior choice by any "island" of any visiting "boat": Proof of Seaworthiness. 📜 "Fighting" too often can be interpreted as "denying" by the weak of character.

Joseph Omega

@Eric Linden - 💯MOST accurate -- it cuts through all the BS!

Joseph Omega

I like battle tested vs. battle ruined. There are many women who do actually learn from their mistakes. They have to fight their instincts. Evolutionary psychology dictates men also have to fight their instincts in other areas in order to live a happy fulfilling life.

Eric Linden

@Tord - You can reverse the order. Click on Alexander Grace - Posts - Filter. There are also some functions and settings you can only do on a laptop or PC, but not your phone. Patreon has its glitches, but they operate on a shoestring budget compared to YouTube.

Eric Linden

Tell me what a person finds sexually attractive and I will tell you their entire philosophy of life. Show me the person they sleep with and I will tell you their valuation of themselves.

Eric Linden

How I hate this app Patreon. I payed for a year to have enough time to go back in videos from recently to first video. Got to like Jan 20 but every time there is a new video published, then have to scroll all way back in time for latest watched.

Tord Pettersson

09:54 ( this comment seems kind of redundant after watching the video since this is pretty much exactly what Allexander describes ) I remember posting in the community tab (before the app update removed it) asking what does redemption in a woman look like, what “penance” does she have to do to truly show honest reform? And in many videos since then the answer has been a humble recognition of one’s own responsibility to actions done. A sincere internal reason to change. Not external and evidence to show the full history of events from recognition to continued effort in that direction.. Basically, the traits that anyone would have to show to qualify for genuine change be an AAalcoholic , someone in therapy, all the way to someone just trying to lose weight So if she had a habit of dating assholes, I know to be wary of placating answers like “ I grew out of it / it wasn’t working for me “ And if I’m honest, a large amount of people regardless their gender would not be able to fulfil those categories for change Its one of the signs of true emotional maturity. And the amount of people that can admit that they themselves were wrong that the problem is with them and they want to change is despairingly low… and I say that as an adult, I absolutely didn’t have that recognition in my 20s Edit I also greatly appreciate the part for Allexander says a person with no history of trial and tribulations is somewhat of a less green flag than someone that has been battled tested not battle ruined but battle tested Someone that has had that recognition and changed A person who has not could still make that mistake in the future, they might leave you for no good reason at all It feels a bit odd saying so, but a woman with one or two Tyrone and then genuine reform is probably a better choice than someone who hasn’t

Peter

Imagine a salesman not realizing he is trying to sell you something…

Eric Linden

01:13 I do find a amount of women do seek to understand themselves , especially when things start going wrong in their lives But they often seek self affirming information and find it hard to change based on that information (thats true fir everyone) Doctor Orion taraban recently pointed out in the video that affirming a girls experience that she feels good about it is an entire business segment. It’s not your fault for cheating he made you do it. That way, she has the plausible deniability of explanation while being wholy Freed of responsibility for the actions and thus freed of the need to change

Peter


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