Ep 194 - Gilt Trip (full episode)
Added 2022-10-05 11:00:00 +0000 UTCSean and Andy talk about our various malaises: personal, political, and economic. Why does everything feel like shit in the present moment? Is it just us or...
Topics covered include the ideological seduction of 'the left wing of the possible', the near collapse of pension funds in the UK from zombie Thatcherism, what its like working inside a secure state facility behind unscalable fences, the economic outlook for workers in the United States, and the Amazon/Netflix-theory of the contemporary spectacle.
Adorno Essay on "New Type of Human Being": https://brooklynrail.org/2008/11/art/a-new-type-of-human-being-and-who-we-really-are
Vaneigem's New Rights of Man from this essay: http://www.bopsecrets.org/SI/12.selfman.htm
Audio intro: https://youtu.be/OjTOMqQFCEw
Comments
This was exactly my experience with DSA. I tried to talk to the people about building an organic link with the working class through organizing but it was like I was speaking a different language. All the organizing looked like campaigning, which can only use power (that we don't have) but can't build it
PrinceVocalFry
2022-10-10 16:24:43 +0000 UTCNot long enough.
Andrew Greenleaf
2022-10-09 01:42:31 +0000 UTCI think that’s not a correct picture of how things played out in Bolivia - the government continues to come into conflict with workers self-organisation/indigenous struggle: it is a barrier to these developing further.
Matt Crossin
2022-10-07 02:56:06 +0000 UTCReally great episode. I was wondering, re: "the left wing of the possible", how y'all look at something like Bolivia, where we have something that isn't exactly a revolutionary socialist project in the traditional sense, but IS clearly giving the Bolivian working classes something to really fight for, as well as bucking rather significantly the economic malaise gunking up the world economy? Do y'all see any lessons for us in the Bolivian project and maybe in the MAS's relationship between govt and social forces?
Matt Pierce
2022-10-06 16:56:15 +0000 UTCVery glad Sean went into rank-and-file shop floor organising because it’s unfortunate that Andy’s instinct (which I suspect goes to his crimethinc influenced version of anarchism, rather than classical mass-anarchism) is seemingly to set up this false binary of a) proletarian force of insurrection (I’m guessing he means ‘people in the streets’) & b) the liberal politics of parliamentarianism - the actually important revolutionary critique of many within groups like DSA as being ‘stupid liberals’ is not that they’re pushing for reforms, and not ‘plugging in’ to (for now) non-existent proletarian insurrection, but that this is a dead-end distraction from the *actual force* which allows us to extract reforms: day-to-day organising at the point of production & direct struggle against capital. That’s the non-reformist approach to ‘left wing of the possible’ reforms; not party politics and ‘organising’ in the form of door knocking, canvassing, phone banking, recruiting to campaigns, etc.
Matt Crossin
2022-10-06 07:29:58 +0000 UTCI appreciate the no bs approach to this podcast. Yes there's humor but neither of u sugarcoat what you see and that's what I'm happy to pay for. We are in this together and just because we're powerless to some things doesn't mean we can't do our best to make the world a better place in our own individual ways.
Greg
2022-10-06 06:52:33 +0000 UTCProps to Andy for admitting to not always understanding Sean's secular stagnation rants. There's plenty of people out there who could understand it with a little background on the theory and defining terms, myself included. Always a fascinating listen though
Jacob Kreier
2022-10-05 22:08:28 +0000 UTCwe're all in it together brother
The Antifada
2022-10-05 21:28:37 +0000 UTCThis was a black pill episode for sure. I like listening to you two chat because your both smart and analyze the situation in a way that makes sense to me (for the most part) but often, and especially today I’m left feeling intellectually stimulated but simultaneously like so fucking confused. Like what the fuck am I supposed to do? Feeling crushed under the massive weight of history, the forces of capital etc.
Terra 💕🌎💕
2022-10-05 20:09:19 +0000 UTCWwiii already happened it was called the Cold War
Terra 💕🌎💕
2022-10-05 20:04:24 +0000 UTCdo you think we are already in WWiii?
The Fine Art Revolution
2022-10-05 18:47:28 +0000 UTCHere's a video of what peak assassin looks like on cctv. The reporter's name was Jeff German. https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/homicides/video-captures-suspect-minutes-before-reporters-killing-2639087/
5k Race Warrior
2022-10-05 18:06:23 +0000 UTCwtf
The Antifada
2022-10-05 17:30:07 +0000 UTCToday the UN tried to warn the Fed against raising rates further, wild times.
Magiteker
2022-10-05 16:37:22 +0000 UTCI play at the "techno club" n listen to this podcast, wat an intersection
Turtle Bugg
2022-10-05 16:37:20 +0000 UTCDid you guys see the high viz assassin in Vegas? They wore a reflective shirt and a big brimmed hat and covered every other part of their skin. The reflective part fucked up the exposure of the security cameras so that their face couldn't be seen under the brim. They stabbed a journalist investigating Paddock (among other things) while looking like a gardener. Works best in broad daylight.
5k Race Warrior
2022-10-05 15:14:30 +0000 UTC
