Bonfireside Chat 305: Stone Coffin Fissure
Added 2024-10-27 20:03:21 +0000 UTCWe can't believe their cheek! Miquella threw something away which he should not have, and we’re going deep into the Stone Coffin Fissure to find it. So dress appropriately for wading through hip-deep putrescence, and let your least secure friend know where you’re headed, and come with!
Comments
The way the sleeping animals were placed felt a little awkward to me 😅
Simon J. Popp
2024-11-02 12:36:41 +0000 UTCAlso just is strange when no one comments on them, especially people who should know of them. Ranni omitting the GEQ from the empyrean discussion in Nokstella feels like an oversight that makes everything more frustrating
Lucas West
2024-10-31 17:36:57 +0000 UTCI struggled so much with that worm turret section, I must admit
Charlie Frame
2024-10-30 14:04:43 +0000 UTCI rarely think about the internal life of Hidataka Miyazaki, but it struck me that there might be empathetic parallels between him and Miquella. His devotion to their world. The fact he abandons so much, including his love, his internal critique, his SLEEP for this world. Its quite touching
Charlie Frame
2024-10-29 22:58:02 +0000 UTCTimeline stuff is maddening, to me. -GB
Duckfeed.tv
2024-10-28 22:25:52 +0000 UTCWhile we didn’t get as much as I’d like about the Gloam Eyed Queen (GEQ) in the DLC, I’d argue we still got enough to get to that 70% that Melina is the GEQ, at least for myself. The three main things are that Messmer is a pre-Godfrey demigod, that he has a younger sister who “bore a vision of fire”, and Melina uses Minor Erdtree, a DLC spell that’s one of Marika’s oldest incantations. What mainly didn’t add up for me with Melina being the GEQ was her being born after Godfrey’s exile. It’s strange no one comments on her, including Ranni when she lists Empyreans, making it seem like the GEQ is older, “ancient” as the Godskins themselves are described. With her being born earlier, it fits slightly more plausibly as she may have been mostly forgotten (as she herself forgets her own purpose) but isn’t 100% of the way to a confirmation, leaving some room for interpretation and debate
Lucas West
2024-10-28 22:12:48 +0000 UTCThe presence of the Sentry Stones here may imply a connection between the giant coffin civilization and the inhabitants of the eternal cities. The Mohgwyn Palace appears to be covered in evergaol components, indicating that the civilization used these. Maybe Miquella chose this place to abandon St. Trina for its utility as a gaol. Based on their behavior and name, the sentry stones appear to be set up as guards intended to prevent a prisoner from escaping. Or this could be an arbitrary choice like the sleepfiends? 🤷🏻♂️
Steven Meadows
2024-10-28 17:29:36 +0000 UTCThere are some strange resonances with American evangelical Christianity in Miquella's story (he said, having grown up in American evangelical churches). Miquella may be meant as a "Christ-figure," but that's not quite what I mean. First, the hacking-off-chunks-of-himself thing reminds me of Voyage of the Dawn Treader (from the Chronicles of Narnia series), by CS Lewis. Lewis had a significant impact on American evangelical Christianity, despite being British, and also being philosophically, theologically, and emotionally more sophisticated than we, his American cousins. In the book, Eustace Scrubb is a sniveling dick of a person who -- against his will -- gets transported to Narnia along with his cousins Edmund and Lucy. While dicking around the Narnian ocean on the aforementioned Dawn Treader, he becomes transformed into a dragon after spending the night Scrooge McDuck-ing around in a dragon's treasure hoard. Since he is now unable to communicate with anyone else, and is treated as an enemy (no one realizes he's the annoying kid they've been voyaging with), he begins to panic. However, he learns how to be a helpful member of the crew in his dragon form, and he has a gradual change of heart. He remains stuck in dragon form until he literally tears off his own dragon flesh to reveal his human body -- though now with a much improved personality/character -- still intact inside. To my young evangelical mind, this was a metaphor for leaving behind everything you love (the "desires of the flesh" like money, video games, having a normal life rather than being a missionary) -- no matter how much it hurt -- so you can follow God's plan for you with a pure heart. Not sure that CS Lewis meant it as that, but that's how my religious culture led me to interpret the story. Secondly, "I abandon my doubt and vacillation," and "I abandon my love [for the things of this world, for myself, for my own desires]" are phrases you will repeatedly sing in your Sunday "worship" songs at evangelical churches. Failing to trust God and to be wholly committed to God's call are cardinal sins. Devotion to the "self" is a cardinal sin. You must "sacrifice all" for the "higher calling" of serving/creating the "kingdom of God." (And, then, you must abandon any of the moral standards you were taught and instead blindly believe that God has a plan -- and vote for Donald Trump.)
Micah Tillman
2024-10-28 12:46:14 +0000 UTCNO WHEEZING THE JUICE!
Rule34Bomberman
2024-10-28 08:09:09 +0000 UTC(i hate to say it but in terms of theorizing gloam is basically the new velka. it's a real shame considering how interesting the in-game historical figure herself is) "i abandon here my love", st trina cleaved away on miquella's route to godhood, makes me think about the quote from maester aemon i believe... "love is the death of duty.. we are fashioned for love and it is our great glory and our great tragedy." obvs paraphrasing here, but powerful stuff. Don't throw that shit away! the sleeping animals are so fairytale-esque i love it. st trina, cast away below the sea. her dialogue is amazing 💔 i was watching venture brothers when SOTE came out and for some reason the rusty & jonas statue and the statue in messmer's boss room just absolutely synergized for me. could not stop thinking about "SERPENT!" the Musical (written in one night)
Goldie
2024-10-28 00:15:12 +0000 UTCReally felt like a missed opportunity not having an Age of Sleep ending! Seems like all the pieces were there for it with St. Trina needing a lot of exploring to find and recovering Miquella's old rune ripe for the reforging. It could have been a cool counterpart to the flame of frenzy ending, but a bit more...kinder and gentler. This world is lost, shut it all down but without the burning and such. Also still retains the moral ambiguity as to whether it's even morally ok to do. Would it be a good dream or and endless nightmare? I'm sure if they wanted to add another ending then they would have, but man this one felt like a slam dunk.
Christian Cormier
2024-10-27 23:46:05 +0000 UTCreal quick before i forget as i'm making dinner- its name isn't "the knight of the gloam eyed queen", it's "gloam eyed knight", which is specific wording but less direct. gloam eyes are the twilight hue of blaidd & melina's & maliketh's beast eye associated with death, so i assume putrescent's twilight blue eyes to be the same.
Goldie
2024-10-27 23:41:25 +0000 UTCPUTRESCENCE TIME #LoveTheGoop
Goldie
2024-10-27 22:02:40 +0000 UTC
