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I suppose that some of you are aware of the discrediting campaign that is going on at the moment against me on media, and although I do not feel obliged to explain myself to the people who are harassing me, I do so with you, because at the end of the day, you value my work in some way.

The first thing I would like to do is give you some background on the people who are talking about me. It is not the first time they have done it; It is already the third time that they try to discredit me for different reasons, each one more ridiculous. The problem is that I have not been the only one who has suffered this, they have already harassed other of the most popular artists in the fandom, perhaps more harshly than what they are doing to me. For months even. And the worst of all is that we cannot publicly defend ourselves. First, because they twist our words as they want, and in the end it ends up being worse. And second, because if someone even dares to defend us, they also go for that person. It is already a subject of pure cruelty and hate.

Secondly, I would like to give you my version of the events, since I do not plan to intervene publicly or give explanations on networks, precisely for what I have just mentioned.

. The first accusation they make is a criticism of the last minicomic I've published, Stolen Hearts. As I told you in the post, it is a comic that I have developed with one of you. At no time during the development process either of us thought that doing a panel in which Vi lifted Cait's skirt could be considered pedophilia. Is it behavior that is inappropriate in real life? Of course, I am not going to deny that, and of course it seems to me that if a person did that in reality, they would deserve at least a wake-up call. But these are DRAWINGS. It is fiction, it is not focused on teaching, but on entertaining. It's not even sexualized, as they say, because I was the firstone to be careful on that subject and absolutely nothing suggestive of sex between minors comes out of that comic. Therefore, I believe that in this aspect they are taking things too far, basically because if we get like this we would have to denounce every content creator, whether they are a series or movie director, a manga artist or a young novel writer who at some time in their life have created any story about minors in which they have sexual relations, which are not few.

- Regarding the second accusation they make, and which in my opinion is more serious, is that I have pedophile tendencies. This statement is made based on a Twitter thread I wrote two years ago. TWO YEARS. They have bothered to dig up to that point. In this thread I mentioned that sometimes I prefer to talk to my students about video games or series than about work with my friends. And obviously, it has been taken out of context saying that it is that I only want to have teenage friends. What I meant by that is that sometimes I can't find people my age to talk to about things I like, because it's usually teenagers who enjoy that kind of content. Obviously, I am a teacher, and my goal as a teacher is not to make friends with my students. One thing is what I can comment on networks innocently, and quite another is how I behave at work or with children of those ages, and it is something that cannot be extrapolated from a comment on the internet. And I also don't think that having things in common with my students and being asked what video games I play or if I like a series they've seen is a bad thing. And I am going to explain why: because children have a brutal lack of connection with their teachers, because they feel nobody listens to them, and right now going to class is an ordeal for them, at least in Spain. And being aware of things that they enjoy means that I can introduce these elements in my classes to make them more enjoyable and to spark their interest in my subject. Because the fact that I understand their “language”, so to speak, can make them feel closer to me, and that if they have a problem with another classmate, or a serious personal problem at home that they cannot solve on their own (see bullying, see mistreatments…) they can feel confident enough to come and tell me, and that I can take action to help them through the school resources. Because, in addition, the fact that I am aware of the things they like makes me empathize with them. And empathy in this profession is essential. And I can assure you that in my profession there are very few teachers who are aware of the type of content that kids consume first-hand, and it’s a big problema.

Lastly, I think they were also accusing me of drawing She-Ra as sexualized cadets. The comic they refer to is based on a scene from the movie "10 Reasons I Hate about You." It is a film from the 90s in which there are scenes that today would not be considered appropriate, and I suppose that is where the controversy comes from. Again, I didn't think that making that comic would bring me these consequences, even more so when it was one of the most popular comics I’ve made and people liked it a lot.

I would just like to conclude by saying that I make mistakes, like everyone else, and that I may have made statements that perhaps should have been expressed differently so as not to lead to misunderstanding. But nothing I have said or done has been ill intended, and I have never meant to harm anyone, either directly or indirectly. But that's not something I can say about the people who are harassing me right now.

I believe that I do not deserve to suffer this type of attacks or discredit just for doing something that I enjoy, that I love. Because, honestly, right now  I feel like shit, and they've taken away my enthusiasm and my passion  for everything. And they are threatening to search my workplace to destroy my life. And I think that suffering this wave of hate just for a drawing is totally excessive.

I just wanted you to at least have my side of the story. Of course, you are free to believe it or not.

As always, thank you very much for your support and for appreciating what I do.


Zero

Supongo que algunos de vosotros seréis conscientes de la campaña de desacreditación que hay en estos momentos contra mí en redes, y aunque no me siento obligada a dar explicaciones a la gente que me está acosando, si lo hago con vosotros, que al fin y al cabo valoráis de alguna manera mi trabajo.

Lo primero que me gustaría hacer es poneros en antecedentes sobre las personas que están hablando sobre mí. No es la primera vez que lo hacen; ya es la tercera vez que intentan desacreditarme por distintas razones, a cada cual más ridícula. El problema es que no he sido yo sola la que ha sufrido esto, sino que ya han acosado a otros de los artistas más populares del fandom, de forma quizá más dura que lo que están haciendo conmigo. Durante meses incluso. Y lo peor de todo es que no podemos defendernos públicamente. Primero, porque tergiversan nuestras palabras como quieren, y al final termina siendo peor. Y segundo, porque si a alguien se le ocurre defendernos, van también a por esa persona. Es ya un tema de pura crueldad y odio.

En segundo lugar, me gustaría daros mi versión de los hechos, dado que no tengo pensado intervenir públicamente ni dar explicaciones en redes, precisamente por lo que os acabo de mencionar.

- La primera acusación que hacen es una crítica al último minicomic que he publicado, Stolen Hearts. Como bien os dije en el post, es un cómic que he desarrollado con uno de vosotros. En ningún momento durante el desarrollo del mismo ninguna de las dos pensamos que el hacer una viñeta en la que Vi le levantara la falda a Cait pudiera ser considerado pedofilia. ¿Qué es un comportamiento que en la vida real es inadecuado? Por supuesto, eso no voy a negarlo, y por supuesto me parece que si una persona hiciera eso en la realidad se merecería como mínimo una llamada de atención. Pero esto son DIBUJOS. Es ficción, no está enfocado a enseñar, sino a entretener. Ni siquiera está sexualizado, como dicen, porque la primera que ha tenido cuidado en ese tema he sido yo y no sale absolutamente nada sugerente de sexo entre menores. Por tanto considero que en este aspecto están llevando las cosas demasiado lejos, básicamente porque si nos ponemos así tendríamos que denunciar a todo creador de contenido, ya sea director de series o películas, artista manga o escritor de novelas juveniles que alguna vez en su vida haya creado una historia de menores en la que tengan relaciones sexuales, que no son pocas.

- En cuanto a la segunda acusación que hacen, y que en mi opinión es más grave, es que tengo tendencias pedófilas. Esta afirmación la realizan en base a un hilo de Twitter que escribí hace dos años. DOS AÑOS. Se han molestado en desenterrar hasta ese punto. En este hilo yo mencionaba que a veces prefiero hablar con mis estudiantes de videojuegos o de series que con mis amigas de trabajo. Y obviamente, se ha sacado de contexto diciendo que es que yo solo quiero tener amigos adolescentes. A lo que me refería con eso es a que a veces no encuentro personas de mi edad con la que hablar de cosas que me gusta, porque suelen ser adolescentes los que disfrutan de ese tipo de contenido. Obviamente, soy profesora, y mi objetivo como docente no es hacerme amiga de mis estudiantes. Una cosa es lo que yo pueda comentar por redes de forma inocente, y otra muy distinta es como yo me comporto en mi trabajo o con niños de esas edades, y es algo que no pueden extrapolar a partir de un comentario en internet. Y tampoco creo que tener cosas en común con mis estudiantes y que me pregunten a que videojuegos juego o si me gusta una serie que han visto, sea algo malo. Y os voy a explicar por qué: porque los niños tienen una falta de conexión con sus docentes brutal, porque no se les escucha, y ahora mismo para ellos ir a clase es un suplicio, al menos en España. Y el yo ser consciente de cosas de las que disfrutan hace que pueda introducir esos elementos en mis clases para hacérselas más amenas y para que se interesen por la asignatura. Porque el que yo hable su “idioma”, por así decirlo, puede hacer que me sientan más cercana, y que si tienen un problema con otro compañero, o un problema personal grave que no puedan solucionar ellos solos (véase bullying, véase problemas en casa…) se sientan con la confianza suficiente como para venir a contármelo, y que yo pueda tomar medidas para ayudarles. Porque, además, el que yo sea consciente de las cosas que les gustan hace que pueda empatizar con ellos. Y la empatía en esta profesión es fundamental. Y os puedo asegurar que en mi profesión hay muy pocos docentes que sean conscientes del tipo de contenido que consumen los chavales de primera mano.

- Por último, creo que también me estaban acusando de hacer algún dibujo de She-Ra como cadetes sexualizado. El cómic al que se refieren está basado en una escena la dela película “10 razones para odiarte”. Es una película de los 90 en la que hay escenas que hoy no se considerarían adecuadas, y supongo que de ahí viene la polémica. De nuevo, no pensé que hacer ese cómic fuera a traerme estas consecuencias, más aún cuando fue uno de los más populares y más le gustó a la gente.

Solo me gustaría concluir diciendo que cometo errores, como todo el mundo, y que puede que haya hecho declaraciones que a lo mejor deberían haberse expresado de otra manera para no dar lugar a malinterpretación. Pero nada de lo que he dicho o hecho ha sido con mala intención, y nunca he querido hacer daño a nadie, ni de forma directa ni indirecta. Pero eso no es algo que pueda decir de la gente que me está acosando ahora mismo.

Creo que no merezco sufrir este tipo de ataques ni desacreditación solo por hacer algo de lo que disfruto. Porque, sinceramente, ahora mismo estoy hundida, y me han quitado las ganas de todo. Y están amenazando con buscar mi lugar de trabajo para destrozarme la vida. Y creo que sufrir esta ola de odio solo por un dibujo, es totalmente excesivo.

Solo quería que al menos tuvierais mi versión de los hechos. Por supuesto, sois libres de creerla o no.

Como siempre, muchas gracias por vuestro apoyo y por valorar lo que hago.

Zero

Comments

Thank you so much for your words really, and I feel very honoured to be that figure for you. And don't worry, I plan to come back swinging if it's necessary. They won't destroy me

Paula Aguilar

I’m sorry you’re having to go through this. I’ve been following you for months now (on Instagram mostly at first but now on Patreon) and I’ve never seen an issue with any of your nsfw content. Honestly you’re one of my favorite artists and you inspire me to continue my own art journey. Don’t let this get you down. You know what you’re doing is okay and not wrong.

tiffy

Thank you Markus, you have n idea how much all your support here is helping me, really. I'll come back stronger, I swear

Paula Aguilar

Yes, and it infuriated me so much. If they don't step back in a few ways I'm going to defend myself. And they're not going to like it

Paula Aguilar

Also, I remember what happened to the other artists. Phew. That was something...

Markus Frisén

My pledge was messed up this month, but I finally got it to work because I really want to say that I am sorry for what you have gone through and I can only hope (It looks like that from the comments which makes me happy) you will get through this. I love your art (still dreaming to commission another piece) and I want you to continue as long as you can.

Markus Frisén

Ignore the haters. They are just a bunch of assholes who are just looking for something to blame, judge or criticises. Your artwork is inspirational, and every single post you show us are artwork from every film or series that you love and admire and the style that you find amazing. And people like me will always keep supporting you, so keep up the excellent work, don't pay attention to the people who hate it and never stop drawing the things you love. :)

Drego The Dingo

YOur description couldn't be more accurate. I dealt with this group of people before. They tried to harass me, but they spent months trying to destroy two of the most talented artists in the fandom, and they also attacked me when I openly defended them They are all the same, they have also harassed other artists as well. And the temptation to get back at them so they don't have it their way is so so strong. But I know it will only give them more attention, and I refuse to do that. So I'll just bite my tongue and keep on working. And shove my art in their faces. Because once I feel strong again I'm going to come back swinging

Paula Aguilar

Thank you so much James, and everubody, really. You deserve the world.

Paula Aguilar

Thank tou so so much, Sil. I just plan to get working and become both a better artist and a better writer, just to shove it in their faces.

Paula Aguilar

I love all of you right now. I am really glad to see this conversation. So many things posted here that are SO TRUE, thank you for speaking. Zero, while these shits are making you feel like shit, we will make you feel like a queen, our Horde Queen. You are amazing and if you ever doubt who you are, then you know where to find us, and we will remind you while we hiss at these jackasses like proper Force Captains. And while it might be inappropriate for a force captain to glomp the queen, I will hold you so tightly right now. We all will. Just ride it out with us. I'll bake cupcakes. We'll sing. Drink coffee. Dream up new things to draw and write about.

Tracy McEbil

Absolutely horrifying that people can just take one small detail that they might misunderstand and completely blow it out of proportion to try to discredit someone. I’ve been following your art for a while now and I refuse to believe any of the accusations against you. Don’t let it discourage you from continuing a hobby that you have grown to love. Keep your head held high and keep moving forward. All my love and support!

Dlioxx

Oh boy, where to begin. 1) Twitter is a den of self-righteous wolves. 2) Ignoring the specific complaints (because they are so dumb), this is fictional art about fictional characters in fictional settings. Complaining about ‘pedophilia’ about fictional 16+ yo characters is like complaining that Luke didn’t go to college after turn 18 to complete his education and try to change the Empire within legal means. Fiction is a way to safely explore ideas, emotions, escape, you name it. When it is targeted to a younger audience, most of the settings are basically some version of “kids in war” (Harry Potter, Avatar, She-Ra). What would be horrible in real life is adventure in fiction, because why would we want cartoons about mundane people in mundane circumstances doing mundane things? 3) I’ve noticed a lot of She-Ra fanartists I follow having been harassed over really stupid things, like making Catra look too white or Bow not black enough. I don’t know if it is just the type of fans that a LGBT show tends to draw, but there is a strain of lefty identity politics in the USA that gets pissed off about stupid things when it comes to race and identity. In the last few years, there have been instances of food trucks being harassed because the white owners were selling tacos, and a white high schooler was harassed for wearing a Chinese dress to prom. As a Chinese-American with a lot of Asian friends, I can tell you that none of us gave a crap about this ‘offense’. All the aforementioned fan artists I follow also happen to live outside the USA and probably do not follow this US culture war, so it pains me to see them harassed and confused by by keyboard crusaders trying to impose their hypersensitivity onto the rest of the world. I don't know this accurately describes the specific people harassing you, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did. 4) I fully support you as an artist and am even more committed to supporting your patreon just so these idiots don’t win. They have created nothing of value and never will. Your art is beautiful and respectful to the source material. If they complain to patreon, they will have to explain why you stand out when half the top patreons seem to be about drawing porn of pop characters.

David

I am so sorry you had to deal with this shit at work. Because that's way worse than on media. And thank you, really

Paula Aguilar

hahaha Okay, I'll write it on my list

Paula Aguilar

Yes, I'll try to do that. It's just that the moment they said they were going to look for the place where I work I got scared. Even though if I think carefully they cannot acuse me of anything. But just because of the pure hatred and ill intention behind that. I am truly confused as where all the hatred comes from

Paula Aguilar

Thank you very much. Although I'm going to take a break from posting on media I'm not going to stop uploading content four you guys here are on Ko- Fi. Don't worry, I'll come back swinging

Paula Aguilar

people who decide to to undermine someone else creative thinking are just envious idiots who can't get a fuckin life. You fine just the way u are and your art is much more captivating with the drama and plots than sexulaztion among characters. An to anybody who tells you different they can fuck. Keep doin whatchu u love and what makes u happy and never let the haters tell u different always remember your fans are behind u 💯.

Dren

What a bunch of morons. First of all, one of the show writers said on Twitter that Cait and Vi were around the same age, at most a year apart, and somewhere in the 14-16 age range. So even if Caitlyn were 16, Vi would at most be 17 and legally still a minor. A minor being attracted to another minor isn't pedophilia (= attraction to minors who haven't reached puberty by adults, pretty sure that if you're between 14-16, you've hit puberty) . Secondly, what the hell do pants have to do with pedophilia, last time I checked, adults wear pants too. Pants aren't specific to kids so even IF Vi were an adult in that scene which she wasn't, Vi looking at her pants would have nothing to do with Cait being a minor (yes an adult lifting a minor's skirt is still not ok but it's not pedophilia, intent matters). Their accusations are pure bullshit, don't make any sense and are dangerous in another way, changing what people think the meaning of pedophilia is which would, if we based ourselves on their meaning, would negatively impact minors in relationships but also make it harder to identify actual pedophilia since they clearly don't know what it actually looks like. These people are so stupid, it's infuriating. Definitely don't pay any attention to what they're saying. As much as it sucks to be on the receiving end of crap like this, keep in mind that logic and definitions are on your side not theirs.

Aegeus

Also go watch peacemaker it's a really good show

Vladimir G Suarez

It's like everytime I compliment drawn porn and people shame me for it, and then I say "you're all here isn't that just as bad?" And then they shut up finally. Also I'm always going to be a kid at heart but I'm 25 and it's easier to talk to this 19 year old at work cuz most of the guys are 30 and married with kids. I actually used to get bullied everyday at work WHILE WORKING,and handled every situation properly. What keeps me going is remembering that I have to move up in my career so that I can have and support a family of my own. What I really mean to say is you get attention from everyone, including buttholes, when you start to get damn good at what you do, and I have recommended you to people I know in person.

Vladimir G Suarez

You have no idea what this means. Because the worst thing is that they were making me feel there was something wrong with me. So thank you, really

Paula Aguilar

The worst feeling is that they were questioning my work, even though they have no idea about It.

Paula Aguilar

Thank you so much. I have thr dame opinion as you. You can learn from adultos, but adults can learn from young people too

Paula Aguilar

Si, si es lo que más me duele. Que yo ahora mismo no me atrevo a publicar el final del cómic en redes, y mucha gente que lo estaba disfrutando se va a quedar sin leerlo, al menos de momento.

Paula Aguilar

Muchísimas gracias Lu 🥰

Paula Aguilar

Que no venga la serie Sex Education, porque se van a escandalizar. Y es una de las mejores series de adolescentes que hay ahora mismo

Paula Aguilar

Well. I am going to give my two cents on this subject. And for context, I have involved myself as a private individual in the fight against child pornography for a long time, since the late 90s-early 00's. I have reported a lot of alt.binaries groups and websites to the police, not only of my country by even others. I have ousted people pandering paedophilic content in facebook to their co-workers and families. I've seen a good deal of places shut down (and reappeared time after time). I have read and informed myself, and I have seen things I'd rather not have seen. So, not to toot my own horn or make this about myself, I can with moderate confidence say I probably know more about pedophilia than 90% of those keyboard warriors after you now. And what I have to say is... I CALL BULLSHIT. Drawing people from arbitrary character "ages" does not implicitly carry sexual intent. Making art with real people of certain ages doesn't, either. Depicting fringe or risque situations with them doesn't even necessarily do, either. Sexual intent is in the mind of the viewer. Someone that seeks gratification with minors can get off on perfectly innocent photos of children in regular day-to-day activities, because their own desires fill in the gaps. And if you don't believe me, I'll just say a certain russia-based image hosting services and their comment section strongly backs my point up, and that's just to cite a well known one. While someone that doesn't could see art of minors engaged in full explicit sex and it'd do nothing for him. People who see sexual intent where it's clearly not meant to are usually psico-affectively immature, knee-jerk reacting to traumatic triggers (be it from personal experience or biased education), or they should be looking long and hard into themselves to see if that intent they see, they are seeing it from without or within. And I'll say no more. "Quien quiera entender, que entienda". I don't know which of the three they are (I suspect which one, and I rarely err), and I don't care. It's their fault, not yours. Yo did nothing wrong.

Mario Rodriguez Gonzalez

I'm sorry to hear that you're going through this. I love all your art and have never seen anything questionable about it. As for the teaching thing, everything you've described sounds like what I was encouraged to do when doing my teacher training and just shows that you're doing a good job. I hope that you're able to get your enthusiasm back and continue to enjoy doing what you love.

Tanasha

What's wrong with people!? By logic, any mangaka who draws ecchi harem manga should be a pedophile. Also, Vi and Caitlyn aren't the same age? That should make it no problem. Almost all of the characters are minors. I hate it when people don't differentiate between fiction and reality. Everything is allowed in art. I would have found it great if my teachers had talked to me about such things. For example, I was someone who actively sought dialogue with older people. I don't think there's anything reprehensible about that. We support you in every way and don't let it get you down. You have done nothing wrong.

TheTyrann1992

La acusación es injusta, usar los contenidos que quieras o la inspiración que quieras para hacer los cómics que quieras no debería ser criticable a este punto, si te gusta el contenido lo ves si no no lo ves no seas tan unilateral como para creer que el hecho de que no te guste algo es un buena razón para criticar contenido que otros pueden disfrutar este tipo de cosas hacen que las personas pierdan el interés de dibujar contenido que otras personas disfrutan tanto en mi opinión.

EvaEvangelin

@zero_lawliet of course ☺️ we’re always here for ya (especially me if need anything)

Nik Howler

People always make mistakes, and we always learn from them. I'm still a fan regardless of the what events happened. I hope you continue being who you are. Always will be supporting U.

Knoghnogh

No te preocupes, desgraciadamente ya estamos en una generación de cristal, y como tu lo dices son dibujos y no hay nada sexualizado (tambiénuna amiga dijo que son solo dibujos que ma...), hay mucha gente que solo quiere dar hate y lo malo es que si te defiendes y/o te defendemos (cualquier artista) nos atacan... 😔. Lo importante es que estés bien y no dejes que ellos te desanimen... Tienes nuestro apoyo. Sigue con tu grandioso trabajo... 😉

Lu Ramirez HP

No sabía que estaba pasando esto, pero siempre hay gente tóxica en todos los fandoms, que yo creo es más por envidia que otra cosa. Lo que molesta de ello es que no recuerdan cuando fueron adolescentes... Y es en la adolescencia que empieza el despertar sexual, la curiosidad por el sexo opuesto o el mismo y un montón de etc., pero por este tipo de personas es que no se puede hacer absolutamente nada de eso, cuando es algo de la misma naturaleza humana. Mucha fuerza y ánimo. Tal vez te convenga cerrar tus redes sociales por un tiempo, hasta que se calme un poco la situación. Éxitos, yo seguiré apoyando desde aquí siendo tu patreon.

Majo RV

Yes, don't worry about it. I'm going to keep posting here, I'm not stopping just for them. I'll just stay away from Twitter and Instagram for a while, but I'm going to keep being active both on Patreon and Ko-Fi, don't worry about it. And thank you for your words, Nik, really. They mean the world right now.

Paula Aguilar

Please don’t get discouraged, you’re so amazing and I’ve loved all the things you’ve done ever since I found out about you. You’re amazing and I hope you continue with what you’re doing ☺️

Nik Howler


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