BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - CHARLES MANSON AND THE CIA?
Added 2024-04-28 01:30:36 +0000 UTCThis week, James and Jimmie discuss whether or not Charles Manson was a CIA asset... the book referenced is called 'Chaos' by Tom O'Neill.
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Grab your tinfoil hat.
Terry “Meatball” Marino
2025-06-21 13:52:25 +0000 UTCI have to admit, I admire a person who can go 20 years and conclude I don’t know? Can we put this guy on a random cold case?
Grace Vinecombe
2024-09-24 10:41:04 +0000 UTCI think Im convinced. Manson has always been my favorite serial killer case.
Heather Hicks
2024-08-16 15:51:50 +0000 UTCThis is *insane*. I thought it would be an easy listen before bed, but now my brain is whirling and I can't get to sleep. I neeeeeed this book!
Sarah Zamenski
2024-08-12 05:08:15 +0000 UTCJimmy's "whaat?" is my favorite thing!
Tracey Forziati
2024-06-02 13:00:01 +0000 UTCOmg. I fancy myself a student of this case. I loved this episode and even though it sounded crazy I went and got the book the next day. I’m 160 pages in. I would like to not work for the next week so I could just keep going.😂
Laura Errera
2024-06-01 20:04:59 +0000 UTCI HAVE this book next in line to read…literally on my bedside table…so I read it the listen?? Will the episode ruin the book for me?! I need so solid feedback from you guys
Tawsha ( with a “W” ) Lynn
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Joe Weniger
2024-05-20 11:34:49 +0000 UTCAlways fun when the boys slag hoovers choice of wardrobe .... lol 😆 gives the nice ones a bad name 🤣
Natasha
2024-05-17 16:31:11 +0000 UTChoover targeted king because he was an overt socialist
Chris Mcdaniel
2024-05-12 07:10:03 +0000 UTCAmazing episode guys! I’m thoroughly creeped out AND fascinated. Perfection 👌🏻
Krystal Hope
2024-05-11 01:20:07 +0000 UTCAre y’all able to do either a review of the movie “West of Memphis” or y’all’s thoughts on the Memphis 3 case. Thanks yall! Appreciate the dark humor
Nia
2024-05-07 20:26:09 +0000 UTCSo excited for this
Cory
2024-05-07 13:02:48 +0000 UTCDiane Lake's book, Member of the Family, is my favorite Manson book. He assaulted her analy in the woods.
Erik Molnar
2024-05-06 19:31:35 +0000 UTCHelter Skelter, like Sid and Nancy, wall all I had 30 something years ago. I carried it like a Bible during the summer of 95. My mom showed me the 1976 movie when I was in the 6th grade. It's a classic. Very eeire soundtrack.
Erik Molnar
2024-05-06 17:36:50 +0000 UTCThis isn't related to your comment, I just saw your username and thought I'd tell you that my cat's full name is Ziggy Stardust the Spider-Cat from Mars. That's all.
PurplePlissken
2024-05-03 00:42:28 +0000 UTCMason's other child is an artists living somewhere in California, He's called Matt Brunner. He did an "art performance" which was called "The Re-trial of Charles Manson" that was performed at The Art Gallery of Satan... but he can't act, no one performing in it could. Not even a little bit. There were weird space themed mannaquins and everything was covered in tin foil. I swear I'm not making this up 😂 It looked nuts, I wish I could have seen it. He also looks SO MUCH LIKE HIS DAD. There's my knowledge on his living child. Sorry for the small 'tism info dump lol. Go look up the art show, it was something else.
PurplePlissken
2024-05-03 00:39:56 +0000 UTCFascinating. Thank you James for all your work on this, what a trip!
Tammy Hedrick
2024-05-02 20:27:41 +0000 UTCChaos is a very interesting book.
Rebecca Goddard
2024-05-02 19:10:48 +0000 UTCJimmie and I said “Charles Manson had babies?” at the exact same time.
Dianne Davis
2024-05-02 19:04:16 +0000 UTCshould do ynw melly case
Maguire Detlefsen
2024-05-02 18:27:45 +0000 UTCFIOA became law 1966, the big changes came in 1996, 2002, 2007, and 2016 as we have demanded more transparency.
Ken Kuipers
2024-05-02 13:21:08 +0000 UTCThis feels plausible because of all the other shit that has happened from COINTELPRO. Take a look at Fred Hampton or when it was discovered that the CIA did have a part in cocaine getting to the U.S.. Rampart scandal is some crazy shit. Watch Judas and the Black Messiah, that will be an eye-opener.
Christopher Starks
2024-05-01 16:28:57 +0000 UTCMY MOTHAFUCKIN DAWGS FINALLY COVERED THIS BOOK THANK FUCK. Y'all are hilarious broskis. Rogan ain't got fuck all on y'all.
Chase Robertson
2024-04-30 21:49:54 +0000 UTCI read this book when it first came out and was stunned! It is so sketchy and diabolical that I can absolutely believe our lovely CIA was involved.
Karen Scronce
2024-04-30 19:04:38 +0000 UTCI for one had no idea about commander Tate
Msjustice
2024-04-30 13:25:01 +0000 UTCIt was sooo good. I was just a young teenager but a half a hit of orange sunshine was amazing. My first trip completely changed my life.
Doug Shipley
2024-04-29 22:54:26 +0000 UTCThis was very well done. I had not heard of this before and I’m a history nerd about the 60’s. More than plausible. Thanks for doing this.
Doug Shipley
2024-04-29 22:51:06 +0000 UTCNicely done guys...
Sifyi
2024-04-29 19:11:17 +0000 UTCLoved this. Wild stuff and eerily possible. It makes too much sense to be a coincidence 🤷♂️
Tony Legg
2024-04-29 16:43:46 +0000 UTCLoved it
Nino Reyes
2024-04-29 03:31:38 +0000 UTCI listened to it a few months ago, I felt like the author jumped to a lot of conclusions. But the number of times Manson was let out of jail and the conduct of his parole officer is hard to accept as coincidental IMO. I think Manson was an asset for someone, but I feel like it wasn't as grand/unique of a conspiracy as the author claims.
Zach W
2024-04-28 20:59:30 +0000 UTC60
Shannon Exley
2024-04-28 19:35:18 +0000 UTCThis was fascinating. I’ve never really dug into the whole Manson thing, but now I’m wanting to. You did a good job explaining a really complicated theory, James.
Molly S
2024-04-28 18:50:39 +0000 UTC"Really made his slip ride up" ded LOL
Shar_koo_dere_ee
2024-04-28 18:19:22 +0000 UTCI listened to the book when it came out. Somethings are def questionable Manson prob shouldn't have been out of jail by 66 or 67. With MK ULTRA going on at the time it I believe Manson def got LSD experiments in prison and I think Manson is scummy enough to be a snitch. The Black Panthers thing is believable if you look at the MOVE and Panther CI's with the FBI I wouldn't put it past the LAPD, LASD. It's an interesting book but all the conspiracy theories can't all be true. It's got some odd coincidences.
Dr Phil Goode 👹🌲🔥
2024-04-28 16:46:30 +0000 UTCI’m so glad they are covering this book. I just read it a couple of months ago. It’s fantastic. The level or research this guy does. I felt it paints a picture of Manson being another sort of “victim” of the MK ULTRA experiments and the FBIs efforts to thwart the progressive movement in the 60s. Thereabouts, at least.
Matthew Solomon
2024-04-28 15:47:57 +0000 UTCI got this book a while ago and actually DNF’d it after about 1/3. I got annoyed that he wasn’t really proving anything to me 😂😭
Cam 🛸
2024-04-28 14:40:08 +0000 UTCThis is my first extra episode as I've only just subscribed after spending months working my way through the back catalogue. Sadly I couldn't get to use the Welsh name I wanted to to confuse Jimmy but I love all their shows. It's great to finally join the Turkey gang.
Justin Glover
2024-04-28 14:30:30 +0000 UTCThe podcast "True Anon" did a two part interview with Tom and I highly recommend giving it a listen
Jared
2024-04-28 12:30:33 +0000 UTCNot related to this episode but what STM episode was “I GOT A MORTGAGE!”
Rysaun Ralston Roach
2024-04-28 12:08:28 +0000 UTCI can’t even begin to imagine how pure the LSD was back in the 60’s when it was legal, especially the Owsley sunshine.
Jeff Stanton II
2024-04-28 12:05:42 +0000 UTCIf anyone is interested in further reading, look into the Jakarta Method.
This Guy
2024-04-28 07:33:36 +0000 UTCAs a communist, this book was a great read. I love learning about how the U.S. empire will go to any length to preserve capitalism, even murder of the young and innocent.
This Guy
2024-04-28 07:27:28 +0000 UTCThis was a really great book! It was also really interesting to discover how many other celebrities (not just Brian Wilson) had connections to Manson, and in some way, these horrible events.
Kristin Morris
2024-04-28 07:20:48 +0000 UTCLove these kinds of episodes!
Plinio Flavio Gonzalez Segovia
2024-04-28 05:53:29 +0000 UTCDO THE GASPIPE CASSO EPISODE NEXT!!!!!! Please!!!!!
“SLIME” ?
2024-04-28 03:30:47 +0000 UTChave a good weekend 🗣️
Acacia Hollifield
2024-04-28 03:07:24 +0000 UTCI love
Lee Anne Hutcheson
2024-04-28 02:39:15 +0000 UTCI'm reading this right now! But I'll still listen to this before I'm through, lol...
Chuck Shartz
2024-04-28 01:45:43 +0000 UTCAnd I agree the book was amazing
Jean Hope
2024-04-28 01:43:31 +0000 UTCYes 🙌🏼 this is why I love you guys lol 💜
Jean Hope
2024-04-28 01:41:16 +0000 UTC1st!! Hey Jimmie you sexy man!! OK you 2 james I guess... lol
Savage Randy
2024-04-28 01:39:11 +0000 UTCIt’s actually a very good book
Stephen Brandt
2024-04-28 01:39:02 +0000 UTCHappy new episode day 😎
Tony Legg
2024-04-28 01:38:42 +0000 UTCHappy birthday to me I can’t wait to listen
Andrew Welmers
2024-04-28 01:38:30 +0000 UTCMaison again YEAH!!
Julie Peltier
2024-04-28 01:38:08 +0000 UTCFinally. I can light my joint
Cody Webb
2024-04-28 01:36:18 +0000 UTCI've been waiting for this!
Jeanie Robertson
2024-04-28 01:34:39 +0000 UTC
