CrimeInSports - BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER

What’s the episode on small town murders about the parents selling a kid for crack

Nancy Kepper

2025-07-02 15:31:16 +0000 UTC

Have you seen her transformation?! Wow 😮

James Jackson

2025-06-13 16:51:00 +0000 UTC

She posted a video a few days ago… it’s terrifying. Her ex husband, current husband and baby should alllll be afraid, that women is diabolical. Still gives me shivers thinking about it, holy crap. Manipulative and not in touch with reality are not a good combo.

Tegan

2025-05-08 13:16:25 +0000 UTC

I believe she may not have said it outloud but I'm positive she thought about having a baby and making a trade. A woman as lazy and diabolical as her mother probably understood she wasn't getting any life insurance policies for Gypsy, a new baby, a story that " Gypsy ran away the terrible girl, woes me..." was realistically the only option for a few years. Scams always run their course and little did she see how much digitized records would be a thing. I know trash too and 1000% agree, not Munch by proxy

Kimberlu

2025-04-24 04:44:53 +0000 UTC

I never paid attention to this story, so this is the first time I'm hearing the whole thing. And then I hear the mom's name is Didi... but she spelled it wrong. I'm telling you people who spell it that way are bad!

Didi Concepcion

2025-04-11 15:20:59 +0000 UTC

In Australia, they had a special on Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Urgh....what a vile,manipulated person was the mother. But it doesn't excuse what Gypsy did,she threw that guy under a bus.

Stephen Tot

2025-03-16 10:59:30 +0000 UTC

"Knock and scratch so I know it's you"

Riley

2025-02-05 04:49:28 +0000 UTC

Next PPV Gypsy vs James

David C

2024-10-09 21:15:25 +0000 UTC

I love you guys

Rachel Brawner

2024-10-09 15:06:35 +0000 UTC

You’re both awesome! Really enjoy your take on things, but worth noting I think that the weird high pitched voice can be a symptom of arrested development in girls

Amanda

2024-08-20 22:46:19 +0000 UTC

"Is that right"

Don Brodka Jr

2024-07-28 19:04:43 +0000 UTC

That’s crazy! Love when Jimmie says that

MARC WHITE

2024-07-16 23:21:00 +0000 UTC

Gypsy is pregnant 🙃

Rowan Becker

2024-07-09 21:16:06 +0000 UTC

What episodes were they talking about, the boy and his father?

Olivia Hatfield

2024-06-28 17:02:47 +0000 UTC

You said it perfectly.

Angell

2024-06-24 04:04:36 +0000 UTC

I think Gypsy is both a victim and a perpetrator. When this level of abuse and manipulation is present in a person’s life since a toddler… I don’t know how to view them.

Rachel Schaeffer

2024-06-05 01:35:07 +0000 UTC

jimmie was on fire !!

denny WE LOVE YOU JIMMY WHISMAN gleeson

2024-06-04 18:50:50 +0000 UTC

Being in Wales I hadn't heard anything about this case so I found it fascinating although it has raised more questions than it has given answers. The part about Nick masturbating for nine hours just blew my mind. I've just found a documentary on her so I can't wait to watch it. Another great episode both, thànk you for all your hard work.

Justin Glover

2024-05-12 21:47:12 +0000 UTC

You're not the only one, I often think of her whenever people talk about this Gypsy Rose. I think the other Gypsy's story is just as compelling, although I didn't realize she was known as a stripper, I thought she did Vaudeville acts and some Burlesque (which I know can involve the removal of clothing). In any case, she's a beauty... stage mothers are the worst!

Crowded Crow

2024-04-10 06:18:26 +0000 UTC

I didn't know anything about this.... wowzers.

Jeremy James

2024-03-02 09:03:19 +0000 UTC

I wish more people fought for him like they have for Gypsy. Yes, he killed her, but he had issues too 🫠 it’s a sad situation

Madison O'Bryen

2024-03-01 17:07:26 +0000 UTC

I didn’t know about a lot of these details. I definitely feel differently about Gypsy now. Wow

Madison O'Bryen

2024-03-01 16:28:33 +0000 UTC

You called it Jessica lol

Rob Dean

2024-02-18 17:39:48 +0000 UTC

It's the same shit her mom liked; she wanted attention for herself and her "sick" kid. Being a Gypsy Rose stan isn't going to stop the cycle of abuse and may actually perpetuate it.

Grace of Base

2024-02-17 23:13:12 +0000 UTC

Agreed. She was horrifically abused and certainly isn't as emotionally intelligent as people of her actual age, but the same can be said for many people who killed one or both of their parents/guardians.

Grace of Base

2024-02-17 23:10:17 +0000 UTC

Am I the only one thinking of Gypsy the musical about Gypsy Rose Lee? Her mom also lied about her age, to make her think she was younger than she was. Luckily she became a famous stripper not a murderer.

Kitty White

2024-02-17 22:58:48 +0000 UTC

Domestic abuse isn't limited to spouses/partners. If you believe that this law is valid, you might think, as I do, that the homicide was valid. Her abuse was especially horrific because her mother paid the bills as a result of the abuse. She not only had no desire to stop, she was financially incentivized to continue.

LA_in_Chicago

2024-02-04 01:11:29 +0000 UTC

Thank fucking god I got Patreon because I have HAD IT with people acting like Gypsy is totally innocent. Y’all’s take was spot on! Totally agree!!

Hannah

2024-02-02 01:25:04 +0000 UTC

I agree that Gypsy should have the same sentence as the guy. She bought the murder weapon and convinced him to do the deed. I agree also about these damn "influencers" ... stop with the follows. It pisses me off that people get free money for making stupid videos.

Cindy Furgason

2024-01-29 20:23:08 +0000 UTC

Jimmie and James, you guys need to watch her lifetime channel special.

LACY GARCIA

2024-01-22 00:55:06 +0000 UTC

Also I highly doubt she is gonna be able to make it as as an "influencer", no brand would ever, in their right mind, partner with her. If she makes any money off Instagram, it'll be because her followers are directly giving that money to her.

Sydney Brown

2024-01-21 21:26:41 +0000 UTC

Didn't DeeDee have guardianship over Gypsy Rose cause she convinced the courts that Gypsy was essentially mentally incompetent? Or else, she lied to Gypsy that she had done that. Gypsy genuinely believed she had no way out other than her mom dying. She had tried to run away before and it had backfired. There's so many others things that got left out that are so inportant, plus a bunch of revelations and stuff from her new docuseries.

Sydney Brown

2024-01-21 21:08:18 +0000 UTC

“You’re a defectant” 😂😂😂😂

Hayden

2024-01-21 08:51:42 +0000 UTC

I was thinking the same thing about the mini-van driver, "Oh my god, I cut him in half!" 😂😂😂

Jason Jimmysbigspoon

2024-01-19 20:43:01 +0000 UTC

I have never been happier to listen to the end of this.. watching clips of her interviews make me so mad in the one where she said “no, no I did something wrong” she followed it up with “but, if I was in a different state it WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCESSORY to murder, but (whatever backarse state she was in) doesn’t have that as an option, IF I WAS ANYWHERE ELSE I WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCESSORY!” She fucking admits it! Stop talking about her like she’s some ideal she’s manipulation all of you! James’ rage resonated.. hopefully she fizzles out and we don’t have to hear from her again 😤

Amy

2024-01-18 09:29:35 +0000 UTC

I’m crying laughing!!!! Yes!!!! STOP FOLLOWING THESE PEOPLE! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Rae Rae

2024-01-16 22:29:28 +0000 UTC

As a fellow burdened individual taking care of my own shit because it’s my goddamn job… Fucking preach, Jimmie. Fuckin PREACH. 🙏 christfuck

Clusterfox Creations

2024-01-16 15:17:36 +0000 UTC

I understand that she went through all this shit and she thought that it was the only way to get out at that time. But I seriously don’t get the cult following around her. Like everyone is praising her

Kaylie Howe

2024-01-15 14:25:17 +0000 UTC

You're pretty gross js. The misogyny in all you comments is overstaturated, you should get help for that bro.

iRescue TxDeafDogs

2024-01-15 03:46:49 +0000 UTC

I am tired of seeing her husband, he is goofy AF but I agree, society made her famous. A bunch of crime obsessed basic B's made her and her dip stick husband famous. and now I have to see their goofy faces every time I open IG

Stephanie Seviour

2024-01-14 15:20:24 +0000 UTC

Yup, I had sleep apnea as a baby - probably due to the tongue tie.

Beth R

2024-01-13 22:25:58 +0000 UTC

Hehe I know I’m late to the comment section but genuinely curious of how some of you will respond to this. 1. How do the people saying she was a “master manipulator” come up with their reasoning? Did she lie to him about what was happening to her to get him to do something for her? No. Was she honest with him about her abuse and that she wanted her mother dead and he agreed and they planned it together? Yes. Did he admit he’s always had a desire to do something like this? Yes. So just curious how you guys would explain what she did as manipulative? Also.. as far as the FAME… why are we mad at her for making money? She’s done nothing but served her time, admitted she was wrong and went on parole. WE as a public are making her famous. She didn’t get out of prison with no followers and requested that 6+million people follow her.. we did that. I can assure you that from prison gypsy wasn’t reaching out to GMA, the View, lifetime etc.. THEY reached out to her and made her famous. She didn’t choose this life so why are we mad about this aspect? Honestly someone please answer me.. did you expect her to ignore everyone and everything interested in her story so she could come out of prison with nothing? She did what any person would do and accepted the opportunities we as a public gave to her. That’s all. No one will probably respond but I hope some people do! 🙃

Ashley Witt

2024-01-13 22:07:05 +0000 UTC

So I been following gypsy and watched her confessions and wondered if my boys covered her yet like I can't wait to hear what they gotta day and I looked here and yes they did I've never been so excited lol

Allison Mitchell

2024-01-13 21:53:36 +0000 UTC

lm not really familiar with this so l watched the Hulu thing. l don't get how the boyfriend was mentally competent to stand trial? Seriously the mother was a insulin dependent diabetic who was probably dying anyway?

melissa speirs

2024-01-13 21:48:33 +0000 UTC

Agreed.

Ashley Witt

2024-01-13 21:01:38 +0000 UTC

The Dr did report it and dhs went to the house. The Dr called it in not anonymous. Please do more research

Kim Cox

2024-01-13 17:18:10 +0000 UTC

When this was covered by 20/20 they made a video of the house, they opened a closet door and it was shelves of meds gypsy spent a lifetime on meds she didn't need. Her mom kept her drugged. Gypsy tried running away she got handcuffed to a bed.again 20/20. This was evidence found and proven, not from gypsy mouth

Kim Cox

2024-01-13 17:15:26 +0000 UTC

I agree with you Rebecca

Kim Cox

2024-01-13 17:10:41 +0000 UTC

Babies can have sleep apnea they have machines to signal when they stop breathing.

Kim Cox

2024-01-13 17:06:15 +0000 UTC

She made her use a wheelchair.

Kim Cox

2024-01-13 17:02:38 +0000 UTC

I think Gypsy should have received a more harsher prison sentence than she got. She pretty much manipulated that dude into going the evil deed. For instance, if she really feared for her life or whatever she could’ve always escaped; like the night they went to the movies. If she had access to the internet and the use of a cell phone she could’ve reached out to someone for help. This case really bothers me, because justice was not served whatsoever. It’s a shame. I rarely have ill words to say about someone, but I hope karma comes around and sends her back to prison forever.

Bradley Davenport

2024-01-13 12:45:14 +0000 UTC

As someone that has a lot of knowledge of mbp her mother is the textbook case, they never believe their kid is actually sick it is always a way to gain attention or compassion along with monetary motives which is a newer manifestation. I don’t see how Gypsy had a chance to turn out any differently than she did as she was completely isolated and not educated in any way. I’m sorry guys I love yall and spend most of every day listening to your catalogue while working but this one just wasn’t given the asshole but not scumbag treatment. I’m not leaving or stopping Patreon because honestly I don’t know how y’all pull it off over years of talking about creeps. Maybe just a little more research next time when we are talking about psychological disorders.

Rebecca Harris

2024-01-12 20:44:08 +0000 UTC

I think this is a really hard case because there is such a grey scale on what is right and wrong. I think there are so many points that can be made on both sides. One thing I do want to point out however is whether or not Deedee had Gypsy under conservatorship or not. After hours of searching I haven’t been able to find of reliable answer on whether or not she did. Or if she just told Gypsy she did. I wonder this because that would dictate whether Gypsy could even leave her mother’s care. If she was told her mother had her under conservatorship she would know how fruitless any attempt to leave on her own would be. I mean Brittney Spears fought for years against her father and finally is “free” and she didn’t have all the background Gypsy had. I think her mom would have a much easier time convincing a judge that all of Gypsy’s statements were part of her multiple illnesses. Deedee was able to manipulate everyone and I don’t know what route Gypsy would have had to escape. Either way I feel like a lot of people are missing the fact that none of us know what we would do in her situation. We weren’t raised the same way she was and it seems unfair to answer that kind of question because naturally we come from a place where we can only imagine. Most of us are more educated than Gypsy. We also have more life experiences that affect what we think we would do in a similar situation. How can we expect Gypsy to have logical thinking when she hasn’t experienced interactions with the world like we have. All she might have known is her mother and her life up to that point. Would she even know what to do if she left long term? I hate that not she is released she is media fodder. She had a fucked up life, did a fucked up thing, did the time the courts appointed for her, and now is out. I think we should just leave her alone and let her figure herself out. That’s just me though.

Jennifer Colstad

2024-01-12 20:05:36 +0000 UTC

Watch her interviews after being released she’s manipulating the world. And I can never unsee her mom in Ryan again

Ky Francis

2024-01-11 21:16:22 +0000 UTC

All I got to say is she figured it out when she wanted dick. I hate what happened to her. But who's fighting for Nick? So it was OK for Gypsy to manipulate him into killing her mom? Well I will say she's not that different from her mom.

Dy Scott

2024-01-11 09:06:54 +0000 UTC

Yeah, I can laugh at stuff with the best, but in this case they were/are holding a very traumatized young lady whose growth on every level was abused pharmaceutically or physically/emotionally to an unrealistic standard. DeeDee indeed got her warm fuzzies at the expense of her daughter. Label it what you will. They DID approach this like thick jugheads. But it is a comedic podcast; just wasn’t expecting such an ignorant one. Peace out.

debbie ralph

2024-01-11 04:09:16 +0000 UTC

I think if she had done it herself would have been a totally different story but scary to think she can manipulate another person to commit murder for her and shows she knew right from wrong.

Turkey Roseanna

2024-01-10 23:46:58 +0000 UTC

Nick wanted to rape DeeDee's corpse after the murder, Gypsy convinced him to rape her after instead, hence why she suddenly shaved. Also, she was put on puberty blockers which, coupled with childhood trauma, explains her voice. She isn't the perfect victim, and evidently that's enough to make her a punching bag for you two. Very disappointed in your coverage of this case, I will not be renewing my Patreon subscription.

Abigail Sweinhart

2024-01-10 21:24:26 +0000 UTC

Gypsy Rose was abused from the time she was born... what she did was wrong and she knows it, but her mother, and doctors at times as well, told her she was sick, she had surgeries she didn't need, and she was physically and verbally abused her entire life, no schooling, forced to take meds she didn't need which I'm sure fucked her up, and under anesthesia for no reason way too many times. To say at 20 she should've known better, is a stretch, as well as the fact that she was told she was only 18. Because of her mother's treatment of her, she was not only very confused over her entire life and her mother's words and decisions about her life, but also severely mentally ill, especially at the time of the murder. This is a tragic case. The fact that she was still saying she needed her meds and feeding tubes during the interrogation proves how brainwashed she is/was by her mother about her illnesses, despite all the evidence to the contrary that she felt and saw, including being able to walk.

April Chiero (chair-o)

2024-01-10 17:20:38 +0000 UTC

to b

Kristy

2024-01-10 14:44:49 +0000 UTC

Love you guys but sometimes wish you would do more research sometimes. lol

Kristy

2024-01-10 14:11:13 +0000 UTC

This episode is amazing. Just so interesting and as always y'all keep it funny. It's so rare you are a case where everyone is both a victim and an aggressor. Also, my wife gave me the Patreon membership for Christmas and I already love it!!

Brandon

2024-01-10 13:47:50 +0000 UTC

I've read/heard that Munchausen by proxy isn't actually a real diagnosis. It was a psychologist/expert who said that, he claimed it's simply child abuse, that it has nothing to do with the Munchausen diagnosis (when someone does it to themselves). So, I went to find some facts to share about this on Google... nothing. Can't find the guy who said it or anything else that suggested it's a "false" diagnosis😅 So never mind... I guess😆

Malin Oskarsson

2024-01-10 13:19:26 +0000 UTC

her voice makes me want to punch a toddler.

Arizona Stacy

2024-01-10 04:16:45 +0000 UTC

Great episode.👏👏👏

Michelle Miller

2024-01-10 01:38:32 +0000 UTC

No Murder unless you count murdering yourself. The feuding must have been amazing though.

Stewart Barnes

2024-01-09 19:23:18 +0000 UTC

Just going to throw this out there as an idea but Marvin Heemeyer’s killdozer and Granby, CO might make a good bonus episode.

Stewart Barnes

2024-01-09 19:19:28 +0000 UTC

Thank you. I’m genuinely appalled by some of these comments.

Syd

2024-01-09 19:08:11 +0000 UTC

Gypsy is not a hero, but she is a survivor. Based on a lot of these comments I can tell some of you have never been close to or experienced abuse firsthand. The only fans and porn comments are also extremely disgusting. She is still a human being who went through something horrific. She did not handle it appropriately, which she will say herself and correct anyone who says she wasn’t in the wrong, but a lot of this is uncalled for. I sincerely hope you all never experience 1% of what she went through. You can never know how you would react until it happens to you.

Syd

2024-01-09 19:05:32 +0000 UTC

This was honestly really disappointing to hear from you guys. Do I believe gypsy was in the wrong and deserved to be punished for her crime? Yes. Do I believe the abuse she endured 100% led her to make those decisions and she served the appropriate amount of time? Also yes. I also don’t think it was fair to make fun of her husband and his appearance. He wasn’t complicit in any of her crimes and doesn’t deserve to be ridiculed. Hoping you guys will address some of the things you said here, because I believe it went a little into scumbag territory. This is my favorite podcast/patreon, I’m reconsidering that now, which is highly disappointing.

Syd

2024-01-09 18:55:09 +0000 UTC

My opinion is not nearly as informed as yours, but seems to me, if you are manipulated from birth by a narcissist and abused to the level Gypsy was, all you learn is how to manipulate. I don't think either of the kids should have gone to prison for more than five years. The character and actions of an abuser who becomes a victim, because of their actions explicitly, matters. Fuck DeeDee, I'd like to dig up her corpse and take a baseball bat to it.

Jenna Augustine Atwater

2024-01-09 18:06:53 +0000 UTC

Dude had the mind of an uneducated child. Crazy story. And nine hours is just too long, bro!

The Midnight Train Podcast

2024-01-09 17:53:12 +0000 UTC

I made it less than 30 seconds into the interrogation. The boyfriend is asked what he ate and he said “uh they call them ham sandwiches, I guess they come with and without mayonnaise ”. This guy isn’t competent

Jen Greenan

2024-01-09 16:50:00 +0000 UTC

The ol “knock n scratch while i shave my snatch” code eh? Lol

Circus Hood

2024-01-09 15:58:24 +0000 UTC

Mother: stabbed Pussy: shaved

Josh Shackelford

2024-01-09 15:39:18 +0000 UTC

I feel like a lot of you all watched something completely different? GR fully accepts responsibility for her actions, she makes no excuses, she’s been through a shit ton of therapy, and she’s paid her dues. The abuse from her mother started at infancy, she didn’t know anything else and her mom was a master manipulator, isolating her from any other family, like a cult. I watched her court testimony and was impressed by her accountability and brutal honesty. I’m more worried her new husband will take advantage of her, she’s still vulnerable to controlling personalities, etc. ugh what a shit show.

Melvina

2024-01-09 08:42:30 +0000 UTC

Fucking finally. I knew my boys would talk about this case in a rational manner. I feel bad for her, but she manipulated that kid to murder her mother and planned the entire thing. I hope he gets an appellate attorney that can get his sentence reduced. Gypsy is no fucking hero. Great episode, James and Jimmie!

Amber Wright

2024-01-09 04:01:14 +0000 UTC

Listened here. Now watching the lifetime show. OMG the grandpa totally molested her. His response was to claim she was forcing her 4 year old self on HIm! Fucking sick.

Michelle White

2024-01-09 03:43:49 +0000 UTC

What’s the name of the most recent one? I’ve seen a bunch of them but I’m always interested to see new ones.

Katie Rohe

2024-01-08 17:54:14 +0000 UTC

I definitely encourage you guys to watch the new doc that came out because she goes over every detail.

Liz Glencer

2024-01-08 17:22:41 +0000 UTC

Gypsy Rose Lee was a famous “fan dancer” in the late 1950’s and 1960’s. She was VERY famous and name recognition of today’s tv characters like Daenerys or Beyoncé.

Eddie Winemiller

2024-01-08 17:21:39 +0000 UTC

When James says: He's defectant... I Jimmy laughed

Rob Dean

2024-01-08 16:21:40 +0000 UTC

As an attorney, I would have a hay day with Nick's appeal. He did not have effective counsel at all. His defense lawyer railroaded him big time.

Rob Dean

2024-01-08 16:21:15 +0000 UTC

The rant about following assholes was just beautiful. I’ve been saying this for years don’t pay attention to these talentless cunts!!!

David Smart

2024-01-08 15:57:59 +0000 UTC

Pam (still is) and Gypsy (was) at Chillicothe Prison. I've often wondered if they were ever near each other.

KB

2024-01-08 15:53:54 +0000 UTC

I couldn’t wait to hear this case with James and Jimmy. I knew it was going to be hysterical. I have struggled with this case as well. I do feel sorry for the things Gypsy went through her mom was beyond horrific, but she is just as terrible for manipulating that boyfriend. It’s so complicated and sad. You guys killed me with the more holes!🤣🤣

Alicia Grant

2024-01-08 15:49:48 +0000 UTC

Very diabolical.

Rob Dean

2024-01-08 15:22:44 +0000 UTC

Gypsy Rose's next destination: OnlyFans

Rob Dean

2024-01-08 15:22:16 +0000 UTC

She clearly planned it and Nick was a pawn in her plan. Poor kid should be free and Gypsy should still be locked up. She's already acting like her mother after she got out. She'll kill again.

Kari Lynn

2024-01-08 14:21:07 +0000 UTC

Please stop following assholes...also, stay tuned for our 300th episode about... assholes 🤣🤣

Justin Klein

2024-01-08 13:13:46 +0000 UTC

Please cover the starved rock murders documentary on HBO!!!

Austin Farrell

2024-01-08 06:19:34 +0000 UTC

I'm sure she's had that kind of offer, but I bet what she'll do is more like: write a book, go on talk-shows, etc. She was just on the View last week...she and whoever her publicist is are aiming squarely at middle-class "nice" people.

Grumpy Aunt

2024-01-08 04:52:21 +0000 UTC

What's the over/under and how long it takes for someone to offer Gypsy a shitload of money to make a porno?

The socialworker and the bat

2024-01-08 03:34:36 +0000 UTC

So at first I thought I hadn't seen the documentary. Being married to a true crime junky I was afraid of telling my wife who is obsessed with this stuff. I started watching the doc after she went to bed and realized immediately that I had seen it. For some odd reason we only watched it once. Despite me watching Goodfellas, casino, godfather, star wars, tombstone, and anything Mel Brooks repeatedly my wife insists that there's no real reason to rewatch things. However she is a true crime junky and I'm afraid that if I told her any different id wind up on a future episode of STM and I really don't think James and Jimmie want to discuss the anomaly that is Wheeling, West Virginia

The socialworker and the bat

2024-01-08 03:32:13 +0000 UTC

I can hear them now "what the fuck is happeninggggg" 🤣☠

Natalie Stokes

2024-01-08 02:43:50 +0000 UTC

Please cover Natalia Grace.

Mandy

2024-01-08 00:08:45 +0000 UTC

She also only got the light sentence because she took a deal - Nick should’ve taken the deal he was offered. Sad to think of a guy like that in prison he belongs in a secure long term care facility. But if they found him competent to make decisions he gets to decide his legal strategy

Grumpy Aunt

2024-01-07 23:23:00 +0000 UTC

Also, she needs therapy for the rest of her life, for sure. I do hope that she uses her celebrity for what she says she wants to do. Bring awareness to the kind of mental health issues that her mother had. Munchausen/Sociopath/whatever people want to call it. I hope she lives a healthy happy life.

Angie

2024-01-07 23:15:07 +0000 UTC

I love you guys, DeeDee had something called malingering by proxy and the known effects that childhood trauma can cause to vocal development. The childlike voice of Gypsy's is not fake, it's cause by decades of trauma caused by medical child abuse at the hands of her mother Survivor's of MbP and Malingering by Proxy often are not able to come to terma with abuse for decades after. They believe they are sick because they have been gaslighted and abused and been told by everyone you are. So, I think DeeDee got what she had coming, Gypsy is guilty of the crime, but to insinuate Gypsy is complicit in her medical abuse is wrong imo.

Rebecca Procure

2024-01-07 22:32:33 +0000 UTC

Honestly? I think that Gypsy was scared of her mother. She even ran away, and DeeDee hunted her down and brought her home. Deedee was a master manipulator. CPS was called on them, but DeeDee would convince them everything is fine and good. Once a doctor said something DeeDee didn’t want to hear, she would move on to another doctor. Deedee would “supply” the medical records, since you know “everything was lost in Katrina”. That woman was batshit crazy, and obviously dangerous. The surgeries and medications gypsy had/was on, I’m shocked to death that she doesn’t have serious health issues. It’s crazy and super sad that the first true “freedom” Gypsy had in her life was in prison! I’m really happy she’s out, honestly. For having such a tiny amount of education, she’s a well spoken woman.

Angie

2024-01-07 22:26:39 +0000 UTC

I need you guys to understand that mentally ill mothers can manipulate their child daughters to basically do anything because they think that the mother is doing best by them.

Liz Glencer

2024-01-07 22:24:03 +0000 UTC

She will kill again!

Lamont Cranston IV

2024-01-07 22:17:21 +0000 UTC

And when Jimmie wheezes while laughing kills me 🤣🤣

Jen

2024-01-07 21:58:19 +0000 UTC

SAME TO THE WORD!!!!

Erin Grier

2024-01-07 21:11:59 +0000 UTC

Thank God someone FINALLY said it and isn't kissing her ass!!!

Erin Grier

2024-01-07 21:11:12 +0000 UTC

Missouri has some terrible interrogation practices and DAs. Look up the case of Betsy Faria's murder and how they went after her husband, based only on the testimony "friend" and true murderer Pamela Hupp. Even today, the DA refuses to admit they erred.

froggy7983

2024-01-07 21:05:04 +0000 UTC

Jimmy saved it on the not clapping part, lol. I heard clapping... GOOD SAVE ☺️

Melanie Aguilar

2024-01-07 20:49:45 +0000 UTC

OMG! I love James’s rants! Nothing is more relevant and hilarious 😂 💙

LouLou Rogers

2024-01-07 20:42:52 +0000 UTC

“If you don’t want the whole fucking city to be destroyed, STOP thinking about the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man!” 😂 ••• there are few things in life as rewarding as when James looses his shit 👍

Pat Schoolastra

2024-01-07 20:04:57 +0000 UTC

Very mixed feelings about this ones!

Elizabeth Freeman

2024-01-07 20:03:15 +0000 UTC

I have no sympathy for Dee Dee, I think yall are correct. She was a scammer, I was glad to hear Gypsy got released. The saliva gland removal, pulling all her teeth and a feeding tube. It's such a crazy story.

Dr Phil Goode 👹🌲🔥

2024-01-07 19:47:30 +0000 UTC

Nick actually did kill the dragon and ends up in jail for life. He’s a train wreck but I still feel sorry for him. If Gypsy had killed DeeDee herself, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

Wendi-Starr Brown

2024-01-07 19:33:18 +0000 UTC

I do think Gypsy is a master manipulator like her mother, and she did manipulate Nick into killing Dee Dee. But her mental state after being brainwashed and drugged her whole life makes it understandable she thought it was the only way to get out. I think she was sentenced appropriately but I don't believe she is trustworthy, in all her interviews she tries to break down crying and there are no tears. I hope she gets the support she needs to heal and lives a productive life.

Diana Kendall

2024-01-07 19:09:18 +0000 UTC

She was definitely a victim but she preyed on that boy no doubt. She knew how to manipulate from watching her mom. I really hope they can successfully appeal that boys life sentence so he gets a shot at freedom someday

Amy Bentz

2024-01-07 18:31:17 +0000 UTC

Gypsy is diabolical. Not discounting what happened to her, but there’s so many other ways she could have gotten out. I also don’t think DeeDee had MBP. I know someone that always has some illness or family tragedy and they always happen when she can’t get her work done and gets called out. She’s either the most unlucky person I know or full of shit. I think it’s the latter.

Rebecca Flowers

2024-01-07 18:00:36 +0000 UTC

I'm so happy to finally hear someone have the same point of view on this as me!

Kristen Redden

2024-01-07 17:34:31 +0000 UTC

I do believe she should be out now but completely understand that there is another view to this. ❤️

Miss Claire Terry

2024-01-07 17:14:17 +0000 UTC

I don’t think the voice is fake. Childhood trauma is often associated with higher pitched child-like voice. I had this. You can change your voice over time to be a normal pitch. My voice is pretty normal now but I had to work on it in my late 20s.

Heather

2024-01-07 16:42:05 +0000 UTC

FN THANK YOU!! she knew enough to find guys to hook up with but yet couldn't tell on mom? Like while she was away from her grasp. She knew if she said something alllllll the money, disney trips,, girls, etc would be gone. I don't trust Gypsy Rose Blanchard any further than I could spit.

Natalie Stokes

2024-01-07 16:09:37 +0000 UTC

With the level of control & abuse Gypsy suffered, I can see why she thought Deedee had to die to truly get away without her mom finding her. And I don’t feel bad for Deedee at all, not surprising treating her daughter worse than an animal came back to bite her in the end. Agreed that the prison sentences should have been much more even between the 2 of them. From the get go it never seemed fair that she got 10 years while he got life without. I don’t think either should probably stay locked up forever, but it feels real unfair that she’s free to live her life while he’s got another 60 years left before he leaves prison in a pine box.

Samantha

2024-01-07 15:58:40 +0000 UTC

I watched the docudrama on Hulu with Patricia Arquette. Gypsy was not responsible for the situation her mother forced on her, but once she got the agency and presence of mind to get a boyfriend, AND manipulate him to kill her mother, she's just as responsible as he is. She could have walked away; but he's in jail for life, while she's out after 8 years with a new husband and a guest spot on The View.🙄

S G

2024-01-07 15:42:57 +0000 UTC

Very grateful for this comment. I remember reading these things right after it all happened. Like from the day DeeDees body was found. I can't find the website but it was such a solid investigation.

Lyndsay Chansley

2024-01-07 13:48:08 +0000 UTC

I watched the documentary few months ago. It’s nuts isn’t it!?

Sean Mosley

2024-01-07 12:33:45 +0000 UTC

I am deceased at “half speed” 🤣🤣🤣

Kristy Kelly

2024-01-07 10:22:40 +0000 UTC

Please do a follow up episode after watching the prison interviews that just came out!

Lauren Moore

2024-01-07 09:07:25 +0000 UTC

Ugh Gypsy is horrific

Tommy Duggan

2024-01-07 08:37:33 +0000 UTC

I think your theory is partially correct. But factitious disorder by proxy can occur at the same time as being a manipulative sociopath. People with the disorder know what they are doing and they doing it for attention. Also, sleep apnea is common in infants, especially premies, and is a significant cause of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).

Kate

2024-01-07 08:04:45 +0000 UTC

In 2004 there was an episode of Law&Order: SVU that covered almost this exact thing. Cindy Williams played a grandma that did this to her granddaughter.

Becca Thomas

2024-01-07 07:52:08 +0000 UTC

I want to clarify that I am not trying to influence anyone's opinion but instead provide more information. Gypsy attempted to run away and eventually ended up at Dan's farm in Arkansas with a few costumes and some money she had taken from her mother. Unfortunately, when she arrived at Dan's friend's house, where Dan was staying, she learned he was unable to leave Missouri because he was on parole. Dee Dee found Gypsy at Dan's friend's house and promised to allow her to see him again if she returned home. However, it was a lie to lure Gypsy-Rose back home. When she returned, Dee Dee handcuffed her to the bed and refused to let her leave for two weeks. She mistreated Gypsy-Rose by depriving her of food and destroying her laptop and phone. Even after the incident, Gypsy-Rose's mother remained physically abusive towards her and often resorted to hitting her. In 2011, Gypsy-Rose attempted to escape again and packed a bag, but her mother discovered it and confronted her about her plans. As a result, Gypsy-Rose grabbed a gun that her mother had purchased, only to realize that it was a BB gun after seeing Dee Dee's minor injuries.

Endellion Hopkinton

2024-01-07 07:51:18 +0000 UTC

The abuse began the moment the mom decided to name her child Gypsy Rose! So dumb ! Setting a precedence early for a life of bad decisions … 🤪

Amy Beery

2024-01-07 07:03:26 +0000 UTC

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE MANAGER?!?!?

Mostlymat

2024-01-07 06:42:22 +0000 UTC

I had to stop watching to say this. How the fuck does the manager at the McDonald's not ask the dude to leave after like 10 minutes of watching porn and tuggin?!?!

Mostlymat

2024-01-07 06:37:43 +0000 UTC

Backing up to the start, who names a child Gypsy? 0.o

L K

2024-01-07 06:20:51 +0000 UTC

Deedee didn’t do this because she was lazy and wanted her bills paid. She did it because of the rush of chemicals and hormones in her brain when she fought with a doctor, got sympathy, outsmarted someone, was congratulated for being a great mom, unsuspecting kid loved her, etc. Not defending her.

Nicole

2024-01-07 06:17:05 +0000 UTC

If it wasn’t Dee Dee, Nick most definitely would’ve killed someone eventually. Then jerked it over their corpse for 9 hours.

Jenn W

2024-01-07 06:14:23 +0000 UTC

I thought I read that Gypsy's mom had fake paperwork lowering Gypsy's age. If Gypsy had tried to leave her mom, wouldn't she just use police to drag her back saying she was not an adult?

Navarra Good

2024-01-07 06:05:07 +0000 UTC

I appreciate this perspective so much! Gypsy could’ve made an escape plan and ratted out her mom, but instead she chose murder. People on TikTok act like she’s 100% innocent when in reality she shouldn’t be out.

Cam 🛸

2024-01-07 05:55:42 +0000 UTC

The thing keeping him in prison is his lack of intelligence. He didn't understand that Gypsy got a deal because she talked first, and that he couldn't expect to get a good deal. Lawyers are meant to do what their clients say, if this guy was judged competent I'm not sure there's much his lawyer COULD do. It reminds me of Stevie from when you guys livewatched that documentary. I honestly think Godejohn is scarier than Gypsy because he is more physically dangerous, yet with less intellect. Undernourished Gypsy couldn't act on her own, she needed a dupe. It's like, to me - Gypsy needs a dupe which is at least a hurdle. She's got to be able to convince someone else. She's not physically powerful. Godejohn is not smart enough to even act in his own interest, and he is apparently an easy dupe. So he honestly does scare me more. Gypsy is now famous for being a manipulator, it would be harder for her to do the same thing twice. Being an influencer is manipulative/relies on creative PR and selling yourself, it's the same skills but channeled in a way that's far more socially acceptable. Godejohn I don't think will learn to act in ways that are socially acceptable - if you release him he'll be at McDonald's masturbating for 9 hours the next day and just get arrested again. Maybe prison isn't the best place for him, but it's very hard to institutionalize people who need structure/help. Society dismantled all of those specialist institutions that were designed to house/help the Godejohns of the world. and now those people end up in very bad situations and often do land in prison.

Grumpy Aunt

2024-01-07 05:30:04 +0000 UTC

Meh, she did her time.

Shar_koo_dere_ee

2024-01-07 05:23:34 +0000 UTC

She manipulated this guy and has the audacity to play with victim

Stephen Tot

2024-01-07 05:09:51 +0000 UTC

For her own sake, she really needs to disappear from the interwebs. While her mom was certainly a piece of work, Gypsy is showing everyone on social media how the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, and she's just embarrassing herself...

Chuck Shartz

2024-01-07 05:03:27 +0000 UTC

I don't get why people are treating her like a celebrity. She shouldn't be celebrated. Horrible childhood, horrible crime. Personally I think her sentence was way too light, not sure about Nick. But justice doesn't seem balanced here. Great job, enjoyed your take, as always.

Rosalie Brown

2024-01-07 04:54:13 +0000 UTC

I completely agree that Gypsy shouldn't be out of prison. I said this in another true crime community and was kicked out and blocked, lol! So glad to have a safe space here! 💙

Lizzie

2024-01-07 04:41:04 +0000 UTC

Keep in mind that Gypsy Rose was fed all sorts of medications that had side effects that put her into a state of discombobulation and confusion mentally. Her mom was a sadist who didn't care how she damaged her daughter mentally and physically.

Alexandria Bracanovich

2024-01-07 04:25:13 +0000 UTC

Low IQ or not, mailing a murder weapon might be the stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone do.

Zach W

2024-01-07 04:10:04 +0000 UTC

Great one!! Are y'all gonna talk about Natalie Grace?? That case is so fascinating I have watched both docuseries can wait to know what happened after her adoption

Jessica Nichols Seymour

2024-01-07 03:42:25 +0000 UTC

I agree that it is terrifying that she is out. I felt bad for her until I heard about the sex right after he murdered her mother. She has to have inherited some of her mother’s genes there. And I agree that it wasn’t Munchaussens but sociopathic tendencies. She didn’t see Gypsey as a person but a commodity to use to get whatever she wanted.

Jennifer McIntosh

2024-01-07 03:18:09 +0000 UTC

"Shotgunned the shit out of them" Jimmie Whisman, I love you. 🤣🤣🤣

Gabrielle Moore

2024-01-07 02:20:57 +0000 UTC

What is gypsy the baby from Roger rabbit, smoking a cigar to get sleep apnea? Mom is straight bonkers.

Marie Storum

2024-01-07 02:12:44 +0000 UTC

Thank you so much for this! Been following this case since the beginning and you guys are the best! Glad to finally have your opinion and totally agree! ❤️ You have to admit, she must be really messed up due to her Mom creating “issues” with Gypsy. So damn sad. However, still a murderer and need to pay the price.

Angie Sands

2024-01-07 02:12:03 +0000 UTC

Yay indeed!!!

The socialworker and the bat

2024-01-07 01:56:09 +0000 UTC

Excited for this one

Tony Legg

2024-01-07 01:55:09 +0000 UTC

Love this!!

Lynn Milroy

2024-01-07 01:54:44 +0000 UTC

oh fuck yeah

nora pseudophan

2024-01-07 01:54:05 +0000 UTC

My boss grew up in the same town and is good friends with her family! Was waiting for this episode

Kyle harner

2024-01-07 01:53:49 +0000 UTC

Sooo happy, right now!!!

Brandon Wolfe

2024-01-07 01:53:30 +0000 UTC

BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - GYPSY ROSE

Comments

What’s the episode on small town murders about the parents selling a kid for crack

Have you seen her transformation?! Wow 😮

She posted a video a few days ago… it’s terrifying. Her ex husband, current husband and baby should alllll be afraid, that women is diabolical. Still gives me shivers thinking about it, holy crap. Manipulative and not in touch with reality are not a good combo.

I never paid attention to this story, so this is the first time I'm hearing the whole thing. And then I hear the mom's name is Didi... but she spelled it wrong. I'm telling you people who spell it that way are bad!

In Australia, they had a special on Gypsy Rose Blanchard. Urgh....what a vile,manipulated person was the mother. But it doesn't excuse what Gypsy did,she threw that guy under a bus.

"Knock and scratch so I know it's you"

Next PPV Gypsy vs James

I love you guys

You’re both awesome! Really enjoy your take on things, but worth noting I think that the weird high pitched voice can be a symptom of arrested development in girls

"Is that right"

That’s crazy! Love when Jimmie says that

Gypsy is pregnant 🙃

What episodes were they talking about, the boy and his father?

You said it perfectly.

I think Gypsy is both a victim and a perpetrator. When this level of abuse and manipulation is present in a person’s life since a toddler… I don’t know how to view them.

jimmie was on fire !!

I didn't know anything about this.... wowzers.

I wish more people fought for him like they have for Gypsy. Yes, he killed her, but he had issues too 🫠 it’s a sad situation

I didn’t know about a lot of these details. I definitely feel differently about Gypsy now. Wow

You called it Jessica lol

It's the same shit her mom liked; she wanted attention for herself and her "sick" kid. Being a Gypsy Rose stan isn't going to stop the cycle of abuse and may actually perpetuate it.

Agreed. She was horrifically abused and certainly isn't as emotionally intelligent as people of her actual age, but the same can be said for many people who killed one or both of their parents/guardians.

Am I the only one thinking of Gypsy the musical about Gypsy Rose Lee? Her mom also lied about her age, to make her think she was younger than she was. Luckily she became a famous stripper not a murderer.

Thank fucking god I got Patreon because I have HAD IT with people acting like Gypsy is totally innocent. Y’all’s take was spot on! Totally agree!!

I agree that Gypsy should have the same sentence as the guy. She bought the murder weapon and convinced him to do the deed. I agree also about these damn "influencers" ... stop with the follows. It pisses me off that people get free money for making stupid videos.

Jimmie and James, you guys need to watch her lifetime channel special.

Also I highly doubt she is gonna be able to make it as as an "influencer", no brand would ever, in their right mind, partner with her. If she makes any money off Instagram, it'll be because her followers are directly giving that money to her.

“You’re a defectant” 😂😂😂😂

I was thinking the same thing about the mini-van driver, "Oh my god, I cut him in half!" 😂😂😂

I’m crying laughing!!!! Yes!!!! STOP FOLLOWING THESE PEOPLE! 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

As a fellow burdened individual taking care of my own shit because it’s my goddamn job… Fucking preach, Jimmie. Fuckin PREACH. 🙏 christfuck

I understand that she went through all this shit and she thought that it was the only way to get out at that time. But I seriously don’t get the cult following around her. Like everyone is praising her

You're pretty gross js. The misogyny in all you comments is overstaturated, you should get help for that bro.

I am tired of seeing her husband, he is goofy AF but I agree, society made her famous. A bunch of crime obsessed basic B's made her and her dip stick husband famous. and now I have to see their goofy faces every time I open IG

Yup, I had sleep apnea as a baby - probably due to the tongue tie.

So I been following gypsy and watched her confessions and wondered if my boys covered her yet like I can't wait to hear what they gotta day and I looked here and yes they did I've never been so excited lol

lm not really familiar with this so l watched the Hulu thing. l don't get how the boyfriend was mentally competent to stand trial? Seriously the mother was a insulin dependent diabetic who was probably dying anyway?

Agreed.

The Dr did report it and dhs went to the house. The Dr called it in not anonymous. Please do more research

I agree with you Rebecca

Babies can have sleep apnea they have machines to signal when they stop breathing.

She made her use a wheelchair.

Watch her interviews after being released she’s manipulating the world. And I can never unsee her mom in Ryan again

All I got to say is she figured it out when she wanted dick. I hate what happened to her. But who's fighting for Nick? So it was OK for Gypsy to manipulate him into killing her mom? Well I will say she's not that different from her mom.

I think if she had done it herself would have been a totally different story but scary to think she can manipulate another person to commit murder for her and shows she knew right from wrong.

to b

Love you guys but sometimes wish you would do more research sometimes. lol

This episode is amazing. Just so interesting and as always y'all keep it funny. It's so rare you are a case where everyone is both a victim and an aggressor. Also, my wife gave me the Patreon membership for Christmas and I already love it!!

her voice makes me want to punch a toddler.

Great episode.👏👏👏

No Murder unless you count murdering yourself. The feuding must have been amazing though.

Just going to throw this out there as an idea but Marvin Heemeyer’s killdozer and Granby, CO might make a good bonus episode.

Thank you. I’m genuinely appalled by some of these comments.

Dude had the mind of an uneducated child. Crazy story. And nine hours is just too long, bro!

I made it less than 30 seconds into the interrogation. The boyfriend is asked what he ate and he said “uh they call them ham sandwiches, I guess they come with and without mayonnaise ”. This guy isn’t competent

The ol “knock n scratch while i shave my snatch” code eh? Lol

Mother: stabbed Pussy: shaved

Listened here. Now watching the lifetime show. OMG the grandpa totally molested her. His response was to claim she was forcing her 4 year old self on HIm! Fucking sick.

What’s the name of the most recent one? I’ve seen a bunch of them but I’m always interested to see new ones.

I definitely encourage you guys to watch the new doc that came out because she goes over every detail.

Gypsy Rose Lee was a famous “fan dancer” in the late 1950’s and 1960’s. She was VERY famous and name recognition of today’s tv characters like Daenerys or Beyoncé.

When James says: He's defectant... I Jimmy laughed

As an attorney, I would have a hay day with Nick's appeal. He did not have effective counsel at all. His defense lawyer railroaded him big time.

The rant about following assholes was just beautiful. I’ve been saying this for years don’t pay attention to these talentless cunts!!!

Pam (still is) and Gypsy (was) at Chillicothe Prison. I've often wondered if they were ever near each other.

Very diabolical.

Gypsy Rose's next destination: OnlyFans

She clearly planned it and Nick was a pawn in her plan. Poor kid should be free and Gypsy should still be locked up. She's already acting like her mother after she got out. She'll kill again.

Please stop following assholes...also, stay tuned for our 300th episode about... assholes 🤣🤣

Please cover the starved rock murders documentary on HBO!!!

I'm sure she's had that kind of offer, but I bet what she'll do is more like: write a book, go on talk-shows, etc. She was just on the View last week...she and whoever her publicist is are aiming squarely at middle-class "nice" people.

What's the over/under and how long it takes for someone to offer Gypsy a shitload of money to make a porno?

I can hear them now "what the fuck is happeninggggg" 🤣☠

Please cover Natalia Grace.

She also only got the light sentence because she took a deal - Nick should’ve taken the deal he was offered. Sad to think of a guy like that in prison he belongs in a secure long term care facility. But if they found him competent to make decisions he gets to decide his legal strategy

Also, she needs therapy for the rest of her life, for sure. I do hope that she uses her celebrity for what she says she wants to do. Bring awareness to the kind of mental health issues that her mother had. Munchausen/Sociopath/whatever people want to call it. I hope she lives a healthy happy life.

I need you guys to understand that mentally ill mothers can manipulate their child daughters to basically do anything because they think that the mother is doing best by them.

She will kill again!