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BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - NATALIA GRACE

This week, James and Jimmie discuss Natalia Grace. 

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I’ve never laughed harder than “ya know what I’m just going to say it glass jaw”!!! I almost pissed myself laughing. James you never disappoint

Dan Forbes

Absolutely not

Stabby Paine

I had to come listen to this again after the new series, came out. You guys need to do a follow up after the limited series on Hulu

Steph Kwek

Yeah, I’m gonna need you two to get back into the trenches with this show. I’m losing it over here!

Lenore Bell

They just did another update on this and the Manses are in full on cult mode. This whole story is unbelievably sad

Shannon Jones

Ok

Kathy Williams

Listening to this made me think of the movie Orphan. Not 100% but partially the fact the girl playing the Orphan is much older than the age she plays and you'd never know it.

Audrey Birch

Natalia was a kid who probably had been abused, neglected, or abandoned by every adult she was around. And is INCREDIBLY vulnerable. Like, every person she came into contact with could hurt her HORRIFICALLY. And she's been physically weaker than probably every. single. person. she's ever met. Like, that will shape your mind and how you behave. Every person she meets is bigger, stronger, or faster than her. That's not something anyone can understand BUT her. Even the disabled adults who were cared for have an agency that she doesn't.

Smalls (smallenoughtofit)

Finally!!! Thought I was the only one who saw the gay in Michael🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lori White

O

Kristy Conklin

“I’m gonna pound one in her and then take her for abortion because I know you hate that too. “. I literally was screaming in the car.

Brooke cale

I hadn't heard of this case but I have subscribed to Discovery Plus because of James referencing 90 day fiancé so this is going to be next on my watchlist. Thank you both for a fascinating episode.

Justin Glover

Just listened to this. I did not want to watch the show and I love these two guys and their sense of humor. So I thought why not. I would have told Antwan to shut the fuck up also.

Penny

Their description of Michael 🤣. I really weird and sad story.

Mayra

Only thing with her age, everyone assumes she is lying. I also think people forget the language barrier, could you at the age of 9 remember what 9 vs 6 is in another language? I think it's more likely that the orphanage wanted to get rid of an expensive child that requires extra care and once the family stated they wanted someone around 6, told her she's 6 in English and told her to repeat that.

Bethany Tillema

For anyone wondering, the documentary is called "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace"

Christina deMelo

What's with the drinking James? I'm about to leave.

Scott Miller

I have not heard about this at all! And I'm late listening to this episode. This is fascinating.

Rosemarie Cawkwell

Surprisingly the dad doesn’t have a handbag dog with a sparkling collar. For the dog not him. Hell maybe he’ll have a matching one

Joe the Cynic

we binge watched this series and the part with the swearing, oh man, all of us were like whaaaattheeeeee heeeeck?!?!?!! I just wanna deck Michael in the face LOL

Jeremy James

I haven’t watched it yet but “He drives a Miata” is enough of a description.

Joe the Cynic

I just listened to The Dollop episode about him! Fuckin’ hilarious!😄

sau1itud3

I know this is unrelated but I figure you might see this comment. You guys would do a killer job on The Rube for crime and sports. Check him out, he’s got an unbelievable story!

Autumn Tierney

The electric fence discussion cracked me up. As kids, we pushed each other into them all the time. But if you want real hijinks, brush up against one while mounted on a horse. 🏇

Anine C

YES, Lover, Stalker, Killer!!!

froggy7983

Started listening to this episode but stopped so I could watch the documentary series 1st. I don't know of any story that has had me so back and forth before. But, yeah, that dad is absolutely gay.

Cheri Holland

I think they changed her age to help cover up or make the excuse for wht she wasn't a genius.

Eric Staub

Thank you guys for covering this!!! It's had me reeling since the documentary!! See y'all in Oklahoma in Oct!! 🫶🫶🫶

Mindy Mcghee

What exactly are “gay vibes”?

R Murphy

It’s all connected somehow

Rob Dean

Yes this is fuckin bonkers

Rob Dean

Finally watched this documentary. The part where the dad is beating and punching the floor… I just pictured Phillip Seymour Hoffman in Boogie Nights: “Idiot.. I’m an idiot! Idiot! Idiot! Idiot!”

Rob Dean

Oh, I finally remembered! Hey guys👋 So, I have a suggestion. It would be absolutely amazing to hear you discuss Dr. Dorothy Lewis testimony from the Letecia Stauch murder trial, the only defense witness. If you haven't watched it... just do it. It's a fever dream on mushrooms, it's slapstick, it's dementia, it's awkward and fucking nuts!😱 It's got it all! Whole trial is up on YT, you're welcome. Love you guys!🥰

Malin Oskarsson

This sounds a lot like the movie orphan

Kevyn Douty

Twat box..lfmo!!@

Rita Argentino

Great episode guys. Best Podcasters around, and I agree with James that Your Stupid Opinions is the funniest podcast in existence for laughs-per-minute.

Robert Bigelow

I like the brevity and novelty of these Patreon episodes.

Denise R. Simon

So funny

Megan Williams

OMG SO FUNNY....MY GAY EX HUSBAND DROVE A MIADA HAHAHAHAH..

Jennifer Sharon

I never got my shoutout message! I signed up on 2/5 !

Andie

Hey Jimmy...my name is pronounced sci-fi..

Sifyi

I watched the doc before listening, per the usual. I'm even more confused now then before I started. Wtf is going on

Damon Stephens

THANK YOU!! I love you guys & great synopsis of this crazy case.

Susan Borosh

Agreed

Patrick West

I’m wondering who got paid for the documentary? Someone got money. I’m wondering if the Mann’s family perhaps wanted a portion of the funds and didn’t get it, that may explain their falling out. Also explains why Kristine is sniffing around again. I think all of these adults were/are exploiting her for financial gain. Why else would they be willing to participate in a documentary they know is going to make them look bad?

Julie

I love you guys so much!

Wendy Friedland

Great episode, keep ‘em coming!

Lynnette Chambers

lol I have a friend that likes Miatas for project car fun, he's straight... so I recorded 14 seconds of the show"...Thats CLEARLY a gay man. Are we all on the same page with that? James, he drives a fucking Miata!" and sent it to him, that was too good not to share with a friend, am I wrong hahahaha

Ken Kuipers

Also, something seriously wrong with Michael. Who is the real baby here? Nothing like an emotionally reactive adult white male. Sexy.

Eldergoth

I really appreciate your fresh perspective, I knew this story was in good hands. I think there’s probably not an adult in this entire tale that isn’t worthy of hate. All the adults are about me me me, us us us. There’s barely room for others at all with people like that, not to mention children with specific needs. She’s probably lucky to be alive. You can really tell her young face versus her now much more adult face. People just suck. Love you!

Eldergoth

SAME ❤️

Eldergoth

I didn’t think Michael seemed gay at all 🙄

Swin

Hey pastor, why don't you Go fuck your mother in her filthy twat box. Holy shit I'm dying.

Amanda Jay Daniels

I am so glad that they did this! I was curious on the guy’s take on it and as I was expecting it was hilarious.

Kayla

A miata and "break the plane backwards" with your wrist. Dead gay man giveaways 🤣

Amanda Jay Daniels

Why, why do I cackle every single time James says to go fuck your mother?? Every. Single. Time.

Gabrielle Moore

the adoption/foster system is mostly corrupt. They lie all the time (I was adopted and know) and they don't do the background checks they should, the bank balance check is the most important check to pass.

Ken Kuipers

my cousin pushed me in to an electric fence and got me to put on the electric dog collar too when I was little. Those were the best times!

Ken Kuipers

Jimmie, I lost it with your “I tried, I tried, I tried, I tried!” It was spot on.

Teresa Rodriguez

Filthy twat box killed me

Kip Sousley

Thought of the movie “The Orphan” right away. But you can’t dispute the baby teeth thing. And That’s Why We Drink podcast covered this story this week and Christine said there’s a photo out there of Natalia playing with a little girl of a potential adoptive family and she clearly has baby teeth/teeth missing. This was also an episode of SVU, of course.

Olivia Peterson

Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God. TCO just did Patreon episodes of that documentary.

Endellion Hopkinton

I've got $25 on Gypsy - that girl is scary af

Molotov_Mocktail

Hell yeah. I learned at a very young age that Shake and bake goes on really anything.

Rob Dean

“Radiation may have caused her pubes” dear god Jimmie lol

Rob Dean

I would freak people out by touching our fence and acting like it electrocuted me. It was fun.

Rob Dean

I can't wait to see Natalia vs Gypsy Rose 😂😂😂

Laura Culp

Agreed!

Rae Rae

🤣🤣🤣

Rae Rae

I LOL’d at that too.

Rae Rae

Omfg!!!! I’m dying!!!!!! You 100% just described my entire white trash existence with that dinner explanation! I literally had memories flood back! 🤣🤦🏼‍♀️

Rae Rae

First is she a frail lupus ridden victim or manipulative abuser? secondly, why is this Michael guy so fucking weird?

Alexandra Reed

Why don’t you go fuck your mother in the cunt 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Amanda Bauerschmidt

We did the 2023 scummy awards!!

Crime in Sports and Small Town Murder

When can we expect Scummy Awards?

Michael Hinchley

As a parent of an adopted child, I will say she remembers horrific events that she went through the first 6 months of her life,but

Carmen Weinand

“Sell her a dildo bigger than her”.. thank you James… almost drove off the fuckin road lol lol

Rob Dean

It's odd Michael backed up some stories Kristen says. Then he does a 180 after a couple episodes. I don't think Natalia could do some of the accusations due to her disability. This got big cuz The Orphan movie, I think Kristine got that idea. Mike is def gay, no shade, he just needs to do him. I don't trust any of them, the crazy hot mic moment where the son says he kicked Natalia down the stairs w his mic on, they never addressed that. Crazy story, I've got empathy and sympathy for anyone w a life changing disability. And damn the musicians lil guy is hilarious

Dr Phil Goode 👹🌲🔥

I find Michael unbelievable and watching him, listening to him gives me the creeps.

Michelle Miller

Who hasn’t floored their Miata to the Spice Girls?

Rob Dean

“I don’t trust them either because he’s a pastor.” 🤣🤣🤣 Yep. Same, James.

Andrea L. Fellows

This was a gift to wake up to this morning. James talking about swearing had me in tears! And the Spice Girls blaring as Michael floored his Miata, 😂, amazing!

Farrah R

as a certified gay i dont think michael is gay i think hes a predator and a manipulator. i think he comes across as fruity on purpose to seem nonthreatening and cast doubt on whether he raped natalia or not.

Anna Gae

Jimmie imitating Michael - "I tried! I tried! I tried!" Then the trail of glitter left behind 😆🌟

Angelina Marconi

I was putting hot sauce on my eggs when you talked about “eating her period”. Goddammit

Brian Ashley

When this thing came out, I laughed, was aghast, cried. All emotions from imagining a vivid James and Jimmie sitting with me, commenting watching this. Yes! There was noticeable enthusiasm on Facebook about hearing this one! Now, I do believe Michael is gay. And, like his son, autistic. W/PTSD. Just guessing. Assuming James would feel mostly similar, I was still surprised when he sympathized as much as he did with Michael! That man needs to fully realize his responsibility. - Michael at the end flipping his hand and making it all go away, as he drove off, was my favorite part. The doc makers are unapologetic wieldy runts. - I’ll watch another. I’m so glad this Patreon came out so fast! Thanks Js&Co! PS- *Lima beans what were they thinking. * * Can’t wait for the 4/20 show. <3

Cher Love Strong (#LocalWeedia)

I had to jump to a video to see dad. I've never watched any docu or such of them. But yes, totally get the gay vibes.

Jeannette Pamaylaon

Thankfully I have another episode I don't have to skip through at an opportune time because you guys are reading an ad but I'm also talking to somebody at my job. I mean don't worry you guys get precedence I look at the person I go hold on a second and I take out my phone and Skip through that Addy part.

Jamie Slater

Hamburger helper & frozen veggies for dinner over here! Where it takes 6 figures to be above the lower middle class. Enjoy and hoard that stove top and frozen veggies. 🤣

E. Vonne.

"Come and take a look at her pubes?" I spat out my drink

Stephen Tot

I still eat stove top stuffing and frozen veggies. Because us poors gotta eat too lol

Lizzie

As a small, dumb kid I was used to test our electric fence by my older sister 🤦‍♀️😂

Kasey Moore

I got the same gay vibe from Michael as well. I am also very skeptical of Antoine and his motives. What a head spinner.

Lelah Baca

This is one of the funniest podcasts I’ve ever heard. I was laughing my ass off the entire time

Cody Webb

Clifton Park, NY is where NXIVM was headquartered. 😳

Julia

"I tried! I tried!" Spot on impersonation 😂

Tracie Williams

Man, this one hit me. I was adopted at 4 years old to horrible people, and hearing this girl's journey...wowza. Of course this woman/kid was gonna have issues. The 'adults' are hawrable! I hope she makes it. These people are trash. Well done, J&J!

Rosalie Brown

Shake n bake, stove top and green beans … yes! I can so relate to that meal growing up 🤣🤣..

Devon Marie

Being a child is not necessarily exclusive from being an asshole. I desperately need this on some kind of merch.🤣

Kelli Jo

Yaaaaaaaaay

Theresa Simpson

“He’s a gay man, right?” 🤣😂💀

Lauren Alexander

meee toooo!!!

Patrick Hennessy

Yaaay for once I'm early 😁😁

Julie Peltier

Yaaaaaaaaaay!

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