BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - TED BUNDY AND GRK!
Added 2025-08-31 02:42:51 +0000 UTCThis week, James and Jimmie discuss how Ted Bundy helped law enforcement find the Green River Killer.
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His peers thought he should die. That's the system. Doesn't matter how many murderers he could have caught.
Allen Tinker
2025-11-24 17:11:46 +0000 UTCReichert is a joke, I’ve lived in WA my whole life and everyone laughs at him. A friend of mine calls him Dave noun verb green river killer Reichert. He made a career in a case that took years to solve then got whipped when he ran for governor.
Ross Timbrook
2025-11-04 01:40:30 +0000 UTCConversations with a Killer, the Ted Bundy one on Netflix!
Crime in Sports and Small Town Murder
2025-11-04 01:37:25 +0000 UTCDoes anyone know the name of the documentary with the guy who said “that boy needed to die?”
Ross Timbrook
2025-11-04 01:36:20 +0000 UTCPersonally, I think it’s a valid point. Whatever we can learn about what motivates these incredibly deviant predators could save lives in the long-term. If he’s afraid of dying, that *does* make executing him more appealing, but decades as a guest of the our penal system might make him long for death.
Baby Yaga
2025-10-18 03:36:37 +0000 UTCLoved this episode! And I love a good James rant about people's stupidity 😁
Libby Gendall
2025-10-13 22:58:24 +0000 UTCExcuse for what?He killed a 12 year old. Among the college students. Just in Florida. 2 escapes. If he did that to females close to you would you say keep him alive? How about the detectives get a clue and solve their own crimes
Kim Cox
2025-10-10 16:19:42 +0000 UTCIn the 70s Kings county in Washington sucked. Bundys gf made a few phone calls after the description of a guy named Ted the sketch drawing looked like him and drove a vw, they said no its not him. Facts from several books about Bundy. Count the number of women who would have lived after her phone calls started. Ann Rule called them same info , nope not him. They couldn't find a killer if the suspect walked in and say I did it.
Kim Cox
2025-10-10 16:11:51 +0000 UTCCriminal profile: it’s a guide, not a cheat code.
Asia Redgrave
2025-09-20 19:19:56 +0000 UTCThis is so cool. I had no idea any of this happened
Darcy Meyer
2025-09-17 12:59:01 +0000 UTCTotally agree with the insight we’ve lost by just killing these serial killers - there were so many insights and research we could’ve gained
Haley Walls
2025-09-15 12:42:07 +0000 UTCI guess the issue they have is the time they have to talk about each aspect so it’s limits how they approach things. Also I guess it’s what their objective is for the episode which was about the relationship between Bundy and the case of the GRK. I do agree with you, sex work does need to be talked about with more education but not sure on this episode…
Haley Walls
2025-09-15 12:41:21 +0000 UTCOK, please nobody rip me apart for this, it’s just my own side opinion and I still love the guys and all of the podcast media that they put out. But was I the only one who’s a little bit disappointed at the way that the boys were talking about sex workers? I don’t think any of it was blatantly disrespectful, I just wish that there was a little bit more education around Sex work, why people do it, and using better language to describe people who are doing it, most of the time out of necessity. I’m sure the guys did not disrespect, I definitely did not get that vibe. I just wish that they may have chosen different wording. I guess I just think the word prostitute is pretty demeaning considering how it’s historically been used. Just my opinion, though, great episode nevertheless.
Jo Troisi
2025-09-11 22:06:48 +0000 UTCEd Kemper is another who could have been very insightful. He was highly intelligent and helped the FBI on some cases as well.
Cheyenne Hobbs
2025-09-10 14:46:50 +0000 UTCOmg Same! I thought I was the only one who heard it like that 😅💜😅
Vickie Teachey-Thomas
2025-09-10 12:33:01 +0000 UTCRiverman, but every time you hear it it's ice T saying ZIMAH-MAN
Ryan Honey
2025-09-09 06:55:34 +0000 UTCNot taking into acccount whether he should have been executed or what his motives were, blah blah, but his insighs were very much like that of a proper profiler... scarey.
Judy Cronje
2025-09-09 05:53:38 +0000 UTCThis episode is so good! Can’t wait for part 2! So good!
Heithem El-Hodiri
2025-09-09 03:19:34 +0000 UTCCan yall do a Patron Episode on the Netflix Catfish Documentary???
Bunny
2025-09-06 18:38:34 +0000 UTCAs an outsider, I’m fascinated by the US devotion to the death penalty. But Bundy/GRK is ok.
Kerrie Ann OCONNOR
2025-09-06 12:13:09 +0000 UTCI think this it where you’re wrong. Using your own words about having Vulcan logic you’ve got to assume now that something other than death as a fear made Ted reach out. If you lock him up you can only threaten him so much before he starts feeding you bullshit and stringing you along. He knew this geography and person so well because that’s where he was doing work as well. Bundy reached out to stroke his own narcissism. He liked being the famous killer from that reason and simply wanted to be made relevant again. I love where you heads at but now you’ve got the assume that the shark is now simply going to take orders from the fish.
Brian The Food Guy
2025-09-05 21:38:08 +0000 UTCSo glad you guys did this one ! I just finished reading Conversations with a Killer- so this was a great follow up for me. Thanks!
Jen B.
2025-09-05 20:03:50 +0000 UTCYou guys are great!!!!!
Fishblood
2025-09-05 17:48:01 +0000 UTC- Florida Sheriff (but seriously, executions will be after part 2 of GRK and Bundy, like they've said multiple times)
Kathrynn
2025-09-05 15:52:05 +0000 UTCJames southern accent is hilarious 😂😂😂!!!
Jeremiah Murila
2025-09-04 19:08:27 +0000 UTCI see you have a picture of Josh Allen. Are you from Buffalo, NY by chance?
Grace Luterek
2025-09-04 18:47:34 +0000 UTCI wanted executions, who cares about bundy.
Smitty
2025-09-04 17:40:20 +0000 UTCOkay but would Bundy have made more escape attempts if he’d been kept around?
Fredrika Farfalu
2025-09-03 17:46:29 +0000 UTCI agree Melissa, I said this some time ago on the main page and a few people got upset. I figured he's in jail, rarely left the cell, and was under constant guard and shackled, when he did. He wasn't going anywhere, all he could do was help these families.
Dawn Shaw
2025-09-03 17:41:12 +0000 UTCI agree that Ted Bundy could have been useful, way more than Charles Manson ever was. Bundy seemed to give honest insight rather than Manson’s bullshit rantings.
Melissa Bilotta
2025-09-03 12:24:49 +0000 UTCIdk what it says about me, but I’m that fat sherif who agreed, “that boy had to die” lmao 😂😅
Amanda Naugle
2025-09-03 09:36:02 +0000 UTCMiddle aged people walking dogs are major contributors to the 'finding corpses' statistics. It seems to be more common now than children out riding their bikes.
Rosemarie Cawkwell
2025-09-03 08:39:24 +0000 UTCAt the time this was happening I was living in Tacoma, raising a young family and the news wasn’t great (and I was busy). So this is really fascinating to hear what was really going on!
Cynthia R
2025-09-02 19:10:13 +0000 UTCWe got this title at the library I work at. First I thought it was intriguing, but now I mostly think it’s bogus.
Olivia Peterson
2025-09-02 17:42:10 +0000 UTC- Kids on bikes - Dogs being walked - Hunters in the woods All bad signs in a true crime case.
Olivia Peterson
2025-09-02 17:40:20 +0000 UTCOmg that was absolutely insane!!
Brandi H
2025-09-02 13:59:40 +0000 UTCGreat episode really really interesting
Zane Burton
2025-09-02 13:03:22 +0000 UTCMe neither. This episode blew my mind!
Ann-Marie Watson
2025-09-02 04:35:51 +0000 UTCI'm shook by this. Holy.....
Wryslok
2025-09-02 03:21:30 +0000 UTCSo fascinating! Can’t wait for part 2.
Alan’s Mom
2025-09-02 03:18:21 +0000 UTCTo be able to look at tedbundy in an objective light, is why I love these guys. To be objective, to use one's reason, is possible only if one has achieved an attitude of humility. Xoxoaa
Wryslok
2025-09-02 03:17:01 +0000 UTC😱 your poor kid!!
Justine McNeil
2025-09-02 01:48:15 +0000 UTCWhen Gary Ridgeway was arrested I happened to notice the name on a report at work. The name has a unique spelling so I knew it was him. The notes showed the wife called to make changes on the account but was really vague about the reason. i didn't know what to do with information. I know it's silly, but that's one one connection with a serial killer.
Patrice
2025-09-01 19:18:39 +0000 UTCSince you're on the Green River Killer and Ted Bundy, could you do a show on the book Murderland, about the relationship between toxic pollution and serial killers in the Pacific Northwest?
Timothy Bergen
2025-09-01 18:07:43 +0000 UTCLol, you’re not the only one, at least us two, I’m certain many more though.
Zachary Leatherwood
2025-09-01 12:26:24 +0000 UTCYayyy!!!! Bundy can kiss my ass, but hearing his nasty deeds, especially from a James&Jimmy output, is a nice view into that mind set!!! Shut up and Give Me Murder!!!!!…..🤔(But don’t commit murder)
Zachary Leatherwood
2025-09-01 12:25:04 +0000 UTCI can't be the only one who thought the title said Ted Bundy and Grok 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂
Jon Phipps
2025-09-01 12:03:29 +0000 UTCThe only penalty out can't undo, Jason, so our country gets it right
Joe Fitzpatrick
2025-09-01 08:21:23 +0000 UTCFuck Bundy The saddest thing for me is always people can name these serial killers who at some part of their brain luv the infamy they get but hardly anyone can name one of their victims In Australia at least at one of our worst massacres ( that finally changed gun laws here ) at the memorial they name all the victims and leave out the deadshit evil killers name He shot children thru a scope in his rifle Deserves to die but we don’t have that which is a bit 🤔I is without doubt kill them
Rob Anderson
2025-09-01 06:52:22 +0000 UTCAmazing research as always. Reichert said multiple times (other cops too) how Ted did nothing to help out with “the river man” and was very smug about Ted’s offer. Now I hear that there was 22 pages that he wrote the task force right off the bat. Never knew of this out of several Bundy books I’ve read. I agree with James, Country music sucks and Bundy should have been kept alive.
Jason M
2025-09-01 04:19:37 +0000 UTCYou Guys are Awesome!!! I didn't vote, because 1st, every episode is fantastic, and 2nd, I knew I was going to hear the next topic at a later date. Another Great episode!!! I tell friends and strangers about your podcast.
Stephanie Hale
2025-09-01 03:57:41 +0000 UTCAs usual great episode! I know its not murder related but damn do i wanna know your take on the new “catfish unknown number” documentary 🤣
dhigueracooke
2025-09-01 03:48:15 +0000 UTCBundy could have been Dexter 😉
nieva29
2025-09-01 02:14:05 +0000 UTCAnother great bonus, thank you! And Bundy should have been a consultant a la Hannibal Lecter. But just woulda had to cut his balls off so we don’t have a bunch of little Bundy kooks running around.
Punkie Leonard
2025-09-01 00:36:15 +0000 UTCIf I took a drink everything the guys said prostitutes, I'd be dead
Jessica O'Dowd
2025-08-31 23:59:31 +0000 UTCI just realized something. Maybe the men out here traumatizing women are these boys going out fishing when they’re young and finding bodies. Coincidence? lol
Tracy Poetz
2025-08-31 21:59:59 +0000 UTCWhen James says, “We’re probably gonna need another episode…” 🙌🏼
Amy Sousa
2025-08-31 21:19:21 +0000 UTCYa we need to study these mfs. I think it would help us notice this shit before it happens.
Jessika Gomez
2025-08-31 20:54:48 +0000 UTCThey should've kept him alive. I mean, they kept murderous nazis alive to help them build rockets and shit. So wtf?
Sir Davy Hale III
2025-08-31 20:44:55 +0000 UTCIn Erie, pa, & possibly other places, we throw bottles into the lake on purpose. That’s where our beach glass comes from. Ppl collect it & make mostly jewelry from it.
Renata
2025-08-31 20:42:52 +0000 UTCReichert lived for years off the GRK, he took forever to solve it and people think he’s a hero. Most people in the PNW can’t stand him.
Ross Timbrook
2025-08-31 20:34:31 +0000 UTCWhat a fantastic Bonus!!! Thank you so much! This was fascinating and can't agree with you more that we missed a perfect opportunity of using a really brilliant criminal mind. I don't really know much about Gary Gilmore was he really that smart or was he just lucky? Thank you again guys!!!
Debi Bailey
2025-08-31 20:20:30 +0000 UTCBest PATREON yet, absolutely fascinating. Thanks gents
wilson wilsoff
2025-08-31 20:16:55 +0000 UTCWow. I completely agree, a wealth of information, thrown away. Thanks for the episode fellas, and all your research James.
Tammy Hedrick
2025-08-31 19:37:59 +0000 UTCI'm so happy! I'm not tricked, I can really listen!
Crowded Crow
2025-08-31 19:18:40 +0000 UTCHow does someone claim to go to church like a good Christian then have a record for stealing? That hypocrisy kills me. And the do unto others commandment obviously didn't sink in for myla either.
Meg Hinton
2025-08-31 19:11:26 +0000 UTCLitter became an issue in the 1960s; Ladybird Johnson headed the Make America Beautiful movement. If you thought litter was bad in the 70s and 80s, you should have seen the 1960s. That’s when we noticed convicts picking up litter for the first time.
Dennis McIntosh
2025-08-31 18:54:41 +0000 UTCWow, I had no idea that he helped. I am intrigued as heck for the next episode. Thanks fellas!
Jeremy James
2025-08-31 18:38:12 +0000 UTCThey said they’re doing that after they finish this 😊
Molly S
2025-08-31 17:26:39 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite episodes. Thanks guys!
Cosmo's ma
2025-08-31 17:12:20 +0000 UTCOMG The best! What you did with this episode. Cannot wait for part 2.
Patrick
2025-08-31 17:08:09 +0000 UTCThe first incantation of Pearl Jam was called Green River
Rob Dean
2025-08-31 17:05:07 +0000 UTCAs soon as James mentioned people caring about trash in the 70s I said “ the crying Indian commercial” and then he said it 🤣. Also, every time James said River Man I giggled a little, picturing a man with a big R on his chest and a knife in his hand
Jennifer Hadad
2025-08-31 16:47:22 +0000 UTCGo listen to crime junkie. Bye
Tony Spigony Rogalette
2025-08-31 16:06:42 +0000 UTC2 parts??? Yay!!
Cosmo's ma
2025-08-31 15:59:12 +0000 UTCI think that was Ed Gein.
Marcella Fletcher
2025-08-31 15:58:48 +0000 UTCRegardless of how you feel about the death penalty killing Bundy was a wasted opportunity. He had a (fortunately) rare personality type that could have assisted law enforcement with catching other serial killers. He was already locked up away from society. I don’t believe we gained anything from his execution.
Maria CC
2025-08-31 15:52:36 +0000 UTCWow, it really does take one to know one.
Nikki Mendez
2025-08-31 15:42:48 +0000 UTCGaydar for killers.
Jonathan Bennett
2025-08-31 15:34:48 +0000 UTCOk I had to pause the podcast to come here because James said ‘crying Indian guy’ when I knew he knows Ralphie Cifaretto. Brilliant reference.
Jason Forrest
2025-08-31 15:34:04 +0000 UTCMy son found a body riding his bike to school (he was about 13) so James was right about that.
Jamie Hernandez
2025-08-31 14:25:06 +0000 UTCThis was amazing! I really hope they do the history of executions as well!
Christine Snyder
2025-08-31 14:22:20 +0000 UTCThough keeping him alive would have helped to catch others. But what extent and how many of these assholes do you keep alive to catch more? Does the cycle end?
Shadow Thomas
2025-08-31 12:09:46 +0000 UTCThis was SO much more interesting than I ever anticipated…can’t wait for part 2 of the River Man.
CJ
2025-08-31 11:53:07 +0000 UTCWell shit!
Gary Howard
2025-08-31 09:34:37 +0000 UTCFuck yeah! Bundy won!
Jpprice14
2025-08-31 06:47:42 +0000 UTCYES!!!
Em
2025-08-31 06:39:52 +0000 UTCalso, Idgaf if youre reading articles, its 2025. can we pepper in SEX WORKER and not use "prostitute" every 4th word. fucks sake
Kate Lussier
2025-08-31 05:32:58 +0000 UTCYay!!!
Natalie Auerbach
2025-08-31 05:23:13 +0000 UTCI lived within a mile or so of where Gary Ridgeway was active in the early-mid 80s and I remember seeing news reports as a 6-8 year old little girl. I was SO scared. One would think my parents would have explained why I needn’t be frightened. My best friend and I thought it was her stepdad, he looked just like one of the composites. Alas, it was not. But he was still a creepy dude.
Megan Manassero
2025-08-31 04:56:44 +0000 UTCLmao I had no idea the Keep American Beautiful “Crying Indian” guy was an Italian guy pretending to be one hahahahaha
Samuel Katz
2025-08-31 04:52:30 +0000 UTCMy only thing is why are we calling these teen girls women? When it comes down to it, whether Gary knew or not, alot of his victims were minors(14), they weren't women.
Shannon DeSilva
2025-08-31 04:37:56 +0000 UTCWooooooooooooooooo
Zach Hollander
2025-08-31 04:23:20 +0000 UTCDarn Was hoping for the other one Maybe next bonus
OMAR GOBBY
2025-08-31 03:59:14 +0000 UTCWas this the inspiration for the book/silence of the lambs?
Stephen Tot
2025-08-31 03:45:33 +0000 UTCThere is. I didn't know we were calling for a poll. I dont know if James and Jimmie were aware that there was an option. They are, now.
Crime in Sports and Small Town Murder
2025-08-31 03:00:51 +0000 UTCKnew this one would win it. Btw is there no way to do a poll on patreon?
Nash essman
2025-08-31 02:45:39 +0000 UTCYAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!
Lisa Cross
2025-08-31 02:45:18 +0000 UTCYAAAAAAYYYYY!!!!
Margaret E Bounsavy
2025-08-31 02:44:26 +0000 UTCFirst, get fucked
Wi Tu Lowe
2025-08-31 02:44:20 +0000 UTC
