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BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - CULT BABY MURDER MADNESS

This week, James and Jimmie discuss the polygamist "cult" that recent convicted murderer Chloe Driver was a part of.

Video Testimony mentioned of Jason Spillars explaining some of the polygamist "cult" beliefs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxH6VBAZa0&t=19752s

BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - CULT BABY MURDER MADNESS BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - CULT BABY MURDER MADNESS

Comments

He repeats stupid crap just like the Orange Orangutan and sounds just as dumb.

Charles Jewell

He talks like Kamala Harris... just dumb.

Korey Goodall

Sagan would've shot dude into the darkest black hole in space!

Maggie King

In the trial, dude says how the group had such a healthy relationship because they HE, the disgusting psychopath, would wake up with ‘the girls’ every morning and they would talk about their feeling. OMG WTF. First… you just said GIRLS… there’s your first problem. They should’ve been using the correct word of girls, instead of women, during the whole trial… it would’ve answered all questions.

Cayanne Ramuten

Last time I saw him he hooked me up to his rike machine and tried to explain to me (an engineer) how the earth is flat through "physics and math"

Rachael Stanfield

Holy fuck i know that guy...I fucking have his number in my phone. Glad I lost touch with him.

Rachael Stanfield

Man, dude needs to be drop kicked.

Melanie B

That wasn’t too upbeat 😖

PattiFKNelson

Jimmy coming in 10 minutes later to give the piss novel update is absolutely SENDING me 🤣

Ashley Moroney

Piss is an animal product. Definitely not vegan.

Stephen Kubica

omg, wow... I needed breaks listening to the audio clip of this sicko, he was making me nauseous.

Elizabeth Hufnagle Puffer

I'm listening to this again and I'm filled with the same white-hot rage. I wish we could make him and Sarah Boone share a cell.

Rebekah Norwood

That guy is JD Vance’s twin flame

Tiny SirJen

Fuck I had to look up these people's if you call them that it's 10000% what I was expecting

Sam

🤮 piss drinkers🤮

Emily Garcia

I have never been so infuriated listening to a man speak.

JJ

James, your laugh is the freaking best. It cracks me the F up.

Jennifer Pienkowski

I wanted to reach through my car radio and slap this guy on his urine stained face

Dyanne Parnel

This guy is one of the most infuriating arseholes I’ve ever heard. I’m glad he’s in prison drinking his own piss, that’s exactly what he deserves in life.

Shaye Yuill

Just listened to this episode and I had to rewind it because I thought my brain spelled it wrong while I was listening. I died laughing when I heard it again 😂😂

JoMama

The same modern medical doctors that you shouldn’t listen to are okay to listen to if they tell you piss cures cancer 🤔

Sarah Wilson

So hard listening to this episode as this guy sounds exactly like my ex. Same things he talks about 😭 it's torture listening lol

Sabrina Scowden

Well shit I guess my husband should have started drinking piss 25 years ago for his leukemia

Heidi Wallis

Perfect use of this quote lol

Camille Stelmachowicz Marolf

Men make better leaders because they're less emotional?!? Has this dumb motherfucker heard of Dumpty and Melon Husk?? They're the MOST emotional men to exist today... 🤦🏼‍♀️

Erika Fultz

Sound stopped halfway through and I can’t get it back.

Nancy Hamilton

Jeez, I almost want to send money for her books.

Shelly Roberts

I’m late to the party, but I absolutely had to comment on this gem. First, for the pissguzzler : (in case he stumbles upon this in all his extensive “research” some day) Hey buddy, not sure where you heard urine is antiseptics and Boy Scouts use it on snake bites and to “disinfect”, but that’s a MYTH. Urine can harbor all kinds of bacteria you wouldn’t want to put into your mouth, much less your bloodstream. On second thought, you do you, man! Carry on, cheers! What an obnoxious, arrogant, stupid excuse for a human man. I can’t imagine how disappointed his parents must feel every minute of every day. Finally, from what I hear about the states that now have the option of “guilty but mentally ill” all it means is that they put a little check or something by their names so they can ensure they get “treatment” for their mental illness while serving a full prison sentence. Which may just be cruel and unusual, they probably get something like a 5 min psych visit every other month to check meds and adjust dosage. It almost seems like they’re just being mocked and still fully punished. I’m not impressed so far. Great show though, you guys are the BEST!!!

Jen Meents

What a dipshit!!!

Chellis Renner

That guy sounds like the p Damon Wayans prisoner sketch from In Living Color.

Lori Ferguson

This man talking in court is sadly not alone with his thinking. What a misogynistic condescending fuck. I feel like I killed brain cells just listening to that ass

Amanda Dykema

I was a court clerk for over twenty years, the biggest thing in trial is to not show your reactions in the clerk’s seat. I have sat stone-faced through some truly wild and horrific testimony. This asshole would have gotten me in trouble. No way I could have held in my eye roll.

Sonya Hagaman

I just want to hear Jimmie say my name like it’s a question 😂😂 I fucking love these episodes though 👌

Laura Burgard

Currently listening and hearing that one guy testify about women's roles and capabilities gave me a visceral reaction. As the prosecutor I'd dismiss Chloe for insanity just after listening to his absolute INSANE back and forth bullshit about what is "real" and the women thing.

Jessica Bohn

Hearing him drone on and on and on makes me want to punch things.

Doc Cetaceous

I am so excited to join patron. I have listened to all the regular shows twice.

Naomi Oleson

Boy scouts 101 LOL

Sumyr Colangelo Keating

I was thinking the same exact thing. That poor girl. I can't even call her a women. I don't think she got a chance to even grow up.

Sumyr Colangelo Keating

guys i love you and your podcast so much but please stop interrupting each other so much! it is so frustrating. jimmie especially

Brendan Danahy

Listen to STM #554 and somone buy Jimmie a compass

Jeff

If Jason had actually spent time earning real scientific education, can you imagine?!

Elizabeth Freeman

Am I the only one wondering how pee so healthy and not a waste when he talked about all of the “toxins” in tap water…which are filtered out by the kidneys…into the urine… Also, having been stung by a jellyfish, you don’t pee on it. You use vinegar. Pee is sterile and often slightly acidic but it’s not antiseptic. This guy is the problem with the world

Rita Weltsch

I know this is a little off topic, but I’m dying to have a ‘don’t fuck with old people’ merch from the last episode! 😆

Skye Seeland

Honestly devastating. If there is a text book case of insanity, that's it. But no let's just lock a severely unwell and traumatised woman up until she dies because let's face it she won't live 30 years in a Georgia State prison.

Tanya Jukes

"Jason what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"

Tanya Jukes

Where can I watch the documentary?

Stacey Bogdajewicz

Please do the Josh Bailey case out of Chapel Hill, NC. Small town when students aren’t here!

Kelsey Drew

Dark therapy..." Sitting in the dark drinking piss shots"....almost pissed myself when Jimmie said that ..😂😂

Davey Boy.

Chloe was sentenced to life today but with possibility of parole after 30 years.

Deborah Wales

Pre-existing mental disorders + postpartum psychosis = extremely sad disaster.

Alex Staples

😂 yes

Abby

Ditto babes 😤

Abby

How did you come to arrive here?

Abby

It’s kind of what we women do!

Abby

The “Rife Machine” — I’m fuckin dead 😂 gawd I love a burn on Matt Rife!! The least talented “comedian” alive today

Abby

Wow.

Laura Shinn

I would have been thrown off the jury or a cause for a mistrial, because I would have been rolling my eyes every five minutes.🙄

S G

After listening to Diane Downs interview with Anne Jaeger yesterday. I need a break from crazy rants. My head hurts from listening to that guy. 😵‍💫

Dorothyann

*rational Feminist rage

Lisa Anne

My favorite fun fact is that urine is filtered blood. It contains excess water, salt and toxins removed from blood when filtered through your kidneys. So anyone drinking urine is drinking filtered blood.

Lisa Anne

I guess I'll have to tell my mom the craniotomy she had to remove her brain tumor could have been avoided if she had just been exposed to the right frequencies lol

Kirk Wildermuth

Who’s to say I don’t discuss doctorate level stuff with women while we laugh and run around on the beach? A gal can multitask

Jacqueline Rose

The people in the courtroom have way more self control than I do. I would have been saying what the fuck every time he stopped talking.

Kalisa McAllister

Wow, 0 for 2 on episodes I can stomach this week. Better luck next time, y'all

Andy Schwartz

I just heard of this case last week! So crazy! Brian is an abusive, pedo fu

Natalie Meyers

I just can’t with this guy. James said it perfectly that this is a “twitter troll in real life.” Cue my irrational feminist rage. 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

Elizabeth Jones

In the context of UK English we can both say 'I have buggered that up' eg when referring to a bit of work or not getting a bit of decorating right but also that word is the most vile act on the planet if not consented to.

Maz

dO yOuR oWn rEseARch. FOH. My blood pressure is so gd high after listening to this windbag.

Barbara John-Lay

Postpartum psychosis is also a thing.

Molly S

I think o lost my last brain cells while he was talking on the stand

Cheyanne Duffany

I want to throat punch this prick.

Eddy Fox

Urine therapy?! This @ssh@le omg! He needs bottled water boarding

Felicia Hold My Wig Palmer

How do you guys listen to this shit day after day? I just listened to him for 20 minutes and I was out. Thanks for all you do to make these indigent stories digestible and hilarious for all of us!

Julie Purney

I laughed every time he said "urine therapy" hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Angela Gilbert

He speaks like Kamala Harris!

J

That DA deserves an award for not strangling him on the stand!

Elizabeth Murphy

This case is best argument for jury nullification I have ever heard. Fuck Georgia.

Stephen Darnell

Yep, because she's only interested in railroading a clearly sick girl into a life term so she can pad her conviction rate.

Stephen Darnell

Psychotic TED Talk!

ScottieBizzle6789

OMFG that fucking guy is the worst, most annoying, and punchable human on the face of this Earth, with maybe the exception of Elon Musk.... 😅🤢

Tanya D

I'm so disappointed in you Whisman, you pronounced my name right damn it!

Jabriel Monk

A-T-M-O-S, Jimmie!

Andy Blazak

YEAH! I love that there was a link for homework via YouTube before I listened!! Well done!

Julie Schowalter

His voice makes me want to vomit. Pretentious shit head.

DeeAnn Price

So, women can't think past having fun and playing with babies, yet he listens to a woman about drinking piss...

Donielle Leonardis

What an absolute ASS CLOWN!! This is comedy GOLD!! Thanks for doing this fellas!!

Jed Frederick

Thought you were to suck poison out and spit out. This guy is just full of💩

Cynthia R

Wow that was a tough listen. "They can't comprehend," sir, you don't even comprehend what you're saying.

Tiffany Zeiss

Jimmie, your Google ads are going to be wild after searching for those urine books 😂

Ann Siegel

James spelling atoms as “atmos” absolutely killed me lmaoooooo

Emilee Patterson

Jimmie's laugh said what we were all thinking. James dying at the *hilariously* improper use of "inept" was the icing on the cake.

Sarah Zamenski

Ugh. I've known so many guys like him. Why do they all have that same voice? The SECOND he started talking, I wanted to kick him in the dick. What a pretentious fuck.

Sarah Zamenski

I'm really glad James and Jimmie read this story to me and added commentary, as my female brain would not have been able to comprehend it on its own. What a tool.

Sarah Zamenski

Chloe was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder, as well as borderline personality disorder. I think he accidentally said schizophrenia but he definitely meant schizoaffective disorder.

Crime in Sports and Small Town Murder

Quick note for the few who care: schizophrenia is not a trauma disorder. What James was referring to with "fractured personalities due to trauma" is either Dissociative Identity Disorder or Otherwise Specified Dissociative Disorder. I actually have OSDD, the milder of the two, and am a relatively normal law abiding young adult.

Broke College Student Food Blog

This guy sounds exactly like my abusive ex who was a total nerd dick know it all. Had the same voice and same bullshit confidence. Thought he knew literally everything. What a waste 🙄…… literally

Bela Daletski

I’m driving at night in New England looking at Christmas houses and just yelled: “Certified nut! Aaaaahh!” I like listening either while driving, or in a sitting room so it’s like a hang. Can’t listen to things like this without James’s. This episode is a special gift. Excellent! Wow! I said. Merry Christmas Season!

Cher Strong (#localweedia)

Don’t remember the piss for snakebite discussion in Boy Scouts

Biff Thunderbeef

This is so hard to listen to. Everytime this asshole talks I wanna punch him. AT-UHMs Omg Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

SparkiestSparky

Perhaps Postpartum Psychosis??? Certainly she would meet criteria for Complex PTSD, but given the other symptoms that began after the birth is likely postpartum psychosis.

Native Tree Gazer

That’s because they’re not as smart as this guy obviously is 🙄

The Sturdy German

How the prosecutor didn’t tell him to shut the fuck up is beyond me. I could barely listen to the short clips.

The Sturdy German

My favorite comment for sure! Well done! 👏🏆🤣

Brett Whiteside

And insufferable. Can't forget that adjective! (I can only imagine how many people in that courtroom wanted to punch him right in the neck!)

Jaina Young

"Bro, your hair is LEAPING out of your head!" 🤣🤣🤣 My husband thinks I'm nuts bc I'm laughing so hard at something he can't hear! Jason Spillars is a fucking LUNATIC!

Jaina Young

Benyamen Ben Michael sounds like you just cussed me out.

Liz Rutherford

Gee! I can’t believe that my female surgeon and female oncologist haven’t told to drink urine! I guess they were busy frolicking on the beach 🤯

Cynthia R

Thank heavens for men like him

Maureen Wilson

Anytime someone says that I immediately know they're an idiot and not worth my time.

April H

I was going to say Elon-esque

Tiffany

This was like if Forrest Gump Joe Rogan and the liver king all had a kid together

Combos

Omg, I can't believe the prosecutor isn't yelling " Yes" or "no" motherfucker but I can tell she's letting him spout his stupidity

Dr Phil Goode 👹🌲🔥

I just wanted to listen to a nice podcast while relaxing. And then this - I couldn't wrap my pretty little female doctor brain around what that guy was saying! Good thing I had an everything shower to occupy myself with while he talked. 🙄 Twatwaffle.....

Alexis Bergstrom

Your honor, permission to beat the suspect upside the head with your gavel until he topples over?

Molotov_Mocktail

OH MY GOD, PLEASE SHOOT THIS DICKLESS SCUMBAG IN THE BALLS!!! "Women are laughing and running around on the beach while we men are talking doctorate level stuff..." Ok.

Karen Maguire

Yo please cover this massive asshole's trial! How did no one just rush the stand and strangle this goof? 🤦🏾🤣

Ray Bullock

He sounds like such a asshole 🥴 im surprised the judge didn’t shut it down lol

JACQUELINE Alyssa MASON

“THERE ARE DOZENS OF US! DOZENS” — Tobias Funke

Katie Griffith

Georgia needs to do better. For her sake, I hope their mental health services are better than their justice system.

Jude Cope

Oh please cover his trial! And really emphasize the “AND YOU SIR MAY FUCK OFF…”

Jude Cope

Wow! Just wow 😮

Jude Cope

I hope this guy is getting his ass kicked repeatedly in prison. This guy makes me want to stab my ears just so I would NEVER hear his BS again. 🤬 Y’all could do a whole episode just talking about how he became the asshole he is today. 🤯

Jude Cope

Only way to listen to this awful story is with James and Jimmie guiding the way. It was so gratifying to hear them scream "asshole" the same second I did.

Susan McFarland

If anyone here works in dialysis, please let me know much your head absolutely exploded when he mentioned RO water!!

Jared Butler

I've never wanted to punch someone in the dick so much within two seconds of them talking in my life!!!!!!

Jared Butler

Yay, Inded, Lauri. Yay, indeed

Loki the Chosen One

What a pompous bloviator that guy is. 😑

Susan Nelson

I remember back in the mid 80s one of the Pittsburgh tv stations had a "doctor" claimed the first piss of the day would clear up zits.

Sgt. Slaughter's Cobra

So the guy looked like Randy when he was in baseball and went crazy

Maito King

Dude looks like an unbathed, middle aged pee drinker. He’s the type you can smell from a distance. To quote my cousin, “he looks like he stinks.” He really does.

Jennifer S.

Georgia needs to revise their insanity laws.

Jennifer S.

"Do your own research!" 🤮

EnrichHardInTheSlightest

Sorry your mom isn’t doing well Jimmie hope she improves

Grumpy Aunt

This episode helped me reach homeostasis

Jordyn Fahey

This is one murderer that i feel very sad for.

Cam 🛸

I audibly gasped (I'm alone in the room) when you said she stabbed her baby. When you described her going for the knife I hoped it was her rapist

Matressa, Countess of Whorington

Yayyyyyy!!!!

Lauri Christian

YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!

Michael Clark

Yaaaaaaaaaay!

Plinio Flavio Gonzalez Segovia

Hey you said something about a remote viewing patreon - this lady Lori Williams does a free "masterclass" and it's kind of bonkers. If you Google her name it will come up and it's not long, I think they're one hour videos & they send one every day. I did this while laid off briefly last year because I was home alone & had too much time on my hands. I also used to work in entertainment and felt like what the hell, I could put this on my resume and someone in that world would go for it/think this makes me more insightful somehow. The training videos are not great, I wrote to her and offered to connect her with a former client of mine who does video editing now. She was like, "Oh it's just old! I have editors NOW, but isn't that sweet you wanted to help your friend get work!" That's not what that was - I was trying to help her with her poorly made videos since she's an older lady.  There's a part where she just stops and smiles at the camera in this weird "church lady trying to manipulate you" way. She also has appeared on Coast to Coast, and she also does weird pendulum prediction stuff. She has a former Mormon gone New Age vibe. She seems like she led Relief Society at some point. Anywhoodle, love the podcasts thanks for the great content.

Grumpy Aunt

Ahhh am I first?! Yayyy

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