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BONUS - SMALL TOWN MURDER - AMERICAN NIGHTMARE

This week, James and Jimmie discuss the Netflix Documentary 'American Nightmare' and the accompanying book, 'Victim F'.

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I love when they talk cars like they know what they're talking about. So many cars and engines are easy to distinguish. Crazy episode tho. The doc was alright but this was better. Good job!

Spoopcast

Another amazing episode guys! Thank you-you make work, driving in traffic, and working out so much better. Thank you for all the hard work. 💞

D.

"He likes long blonde hair and she likes..." the long dong of the law!🤭

Michelle Miller

Great episode! Your delivery is amazing.

Joe Weniger

We had a GOOD day!

Alec Yorballs

Excellent episode! I watched it not long after it was posted to Netflix. I was absolutely SHOCKED by the treatment of the police! Listening to Denise describe what happened to her was unbelievable! Speaking of that word, have you guys thought about a Bonus on the Marie Adler case? I had that same experience in Houston. I never pressed charges because the police told me how I was going to ruin their lives because they thought I was lying. I was only 17 and was drunk. Typical for teens, but they ignored my (admittedly slurred) explanation on what happened. It was the 80's and police were different back then. Then The Accused came out and things changed. Either way, I have avoided drinking heavily ever since, so at least something good came out of it... I guess.

magnoliasouth

cant wait see yall in Grand Rapids

Noal

MUSTARRRRRDDDDD

Jesse Giamartino

This is the most Vallejo PD story I've ever heard.

Devin Rowland

Lmao, half of our patrol division at my PD listen. It’s only like 10 people but still…

Kris the Patrol Cop

My husband’s ex-wife went to college with them and was in the same sorority. We have pictures of all of them together. So crazy!

Jessica Kamps

Thanks for talking about this. I tried to watch the documentary when it came out and I got bored so never finished it 🤣

Martha Casantosan

Nope, sorry guys, you must wash your hands after using the bathroom! I don’t care if you’re in the middle of a murder!

Tonia Willis

I used to coach my son's soccer team AND referee so I was at the fields ALL day during the season. Then I tore my ACL AND haven't refereed in 18 months.

Erika Fultz

I asked my husband (married 7 yrs, together 12 yrs) if he would call the cops or go have diarrhea first. He looked at me like I was crazy & replied "I'd call the cops WHILE having diarrhea." 🤣 true love

Madison Berretta

I had goosebumps through the entire thing … watching the doc now. Mr Rogers broke my heart. I would have lost my shit with the cops on so many levels but that would have been the last straw. I would have ended up on jail for throttling them.

Michelle Miller

I immediately thought of Luis CK and cackled when you said that shit about the Twain award Jimmi 😂

Moth Mane

Lost for words, I’ve listened to hundreds and hundreds of you guys an his is by far the most crazy story I’ve every heard !

Andrew Gilliam

I can definitely understand why they thought it sounded fake but also Vallejo PD is a joke so I’m not surprised they fucked it up

Elizabeth Fernandez

I’m grateful that Aaron and she were able to get that money for a lot of reasons, but also, so Aaron can replace all of his woodworking equipment. The dust settled, but Mr. Rogers is gone forever and if that was me, I would lose my fucking mind.!

Carey Turner

Mustard is terrible at his job

Bobby Troxell

Vallejo is pronounced "Va-eh-hoe." I once worked with a redneck that made everyone pronounce his last name "Valley-joe."

Charlie

Loved how this touched on so many classic STM tropes- and turned them on their heads. Really enjoyed it.

Kath Finn

Great episode

Jean Hope

They are for the next Patreon drop!!

Taylor Washington

I did the same thing. I had to listen to them give their thoughts after I watched it. Was not disappointed.

Misty McLaughlin

This documentary infuriated me. The guys described it perfectly

Misty McLaughlin

Soccer mom from Iowa.... often, I regret putting my child in the outdoor sporting. But, she's pretty good at it so it makes it worth it!

KB

That Colonel Mustard joke was golden.

Randi Otis

Insane story! Would love to hear your guys' commentary on the fox hollow murders doc on Hulu!

Sara Schacht

I would like to hear a top 10 list of James favorite documentaries. He has mentioned so many over the years and I'm just curious what the best ones are.

Kyle Krasowski

I was surprised to hear James say there was more than one person in the house. I though in the Netflix doc we ultimately learned he acted alone. This wasn't part of some larger scheme with a group of people.

Angelo Santora

I don’t know, guys, I really think this guy worked on his own. The whole focus, the main objective, was for him to be able to rape her, and scare her. Then he’s a “gentleman rapist“, that is no surprise, as that is also no gentleman. He just is cagey as fuck. I don’t see him working with other people. I think he could’ve pulled it off on his own. Which would explain how he fucked up and technically kidnapped the wrong woman. I don’t think that there’s a whole agency, that seems to be what people tell victims to make them more compliant.

Eldergoth

What a bizarre story! You two tell everything in such an entertaining way

Jhayden Faeran

Do the karen reed documentary!!!

Natalia

It doesn’t matter they are both great

Amy Brassard

I watched this on netflix and what a crazy story. I’m glad someone believed them

Amy Brassard

Christ you two weren't kidding about this one being twisted. Legitimately scary.

Kathrynn

I was just at an evidence training here in California. Missy came and spoke to us about this case. She’s a force to reckon with! She believes that others are involved too because too many victims swear there was more than one person. If she had not been so persistent Aaron and Denise could be in jail.

Kelley Marie

Hi. Should I listen to this episode or watch the documentary first? Thanks.

Don

Well done guys! This was one of my faves from a storytelling point of view ☺️

Christine Leister

I saw this… absolutely fucking crazy…. Why are crimsons sooo sloppy with their evidence…

Matt Eberhardt

👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾👑👍🏾

Zachary Leatherwood

What’s up Turkeys? Chilling with a joint and my Dudes!!! 💚💚💚

Zachary Leatherwood

Goddam Keystone cops BS

Kristi B Green

I grew up in Vallejo. Your views of the PD are not wrong.

Charles Young

Coerced "sex" while held against your will is first degree rape. I love you guys so much!! Filthy mouthed comedians, always looking out for women's rights. You are national treasures ❤️

Jenna Augustine Atwater

What a nightmare for that poor couple. It was difficult to watch.

Mitzi Callahan

WE HAD A GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!

Jenna Augustine Atwater

Kudos to you, James, for getting through the audiobook; I only made it a few minutes into the second chapter because I couldn't get through the unnecessary flowery and overly dramatic language. The actual story is dramatic enough; "every millisecond my soul yearned for her" or some such nonsense - completely ridiculous.

Terri Hliwski

I think one of my ancestors was from Whorington! She got married to a Duke and became the Lady of Sluttingshire!

Jenna Augustine Atwater

Great telling! Just watched documentary & it's horrifying on so many levels

Martha Kapeghian

MUSTAAAAAAAARRRRD!

Marc Trudeau

I watched the documentary a while back and I was in shock the entire time. Listening to this I kept thinking about that Sherlock Holmes quote; “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” Crazy how accurate that is with so many of the Small Town murder episodes.

Christopher Starks

Oh no! Aaron? He ends up a cool guy. At the end! Did you listen? I haven’t finished yet.. but the actual story ends with him a cool guy. :-)

Cher Strong (#localweedia)

52:30 Describing Denise walking up to the house. I said -she fucking rocks! She’s took that like a warrior I could only hope to be. I think she was at the Florida Crime Con that I was at.. or the Nashville one. Missed seeing her. Wicked!

Cher Strong (#localweedia)

This guy is so fuckin annoying 🤣 20mins in and fuck him.

Chas Williams

It was all the one guy he admitted it can not remember if it was in the book or another podcast

Joshua Goodall

This was horrifying from start to finish.

Bailey Hicks

Listened to part of this episode, paused and binged all three episodes on my laptop, then finished the episode. Loved this one!

Katie Oliver

Saw the documentary on netflix a while ago and its shocking

dhigueracooke

Never heard of this before. Thank you!!☺️

Em

I can’t believe I had never heard of this before?! My wife and I will be watching it tonight! Holy shit it’s so insane! The fucking frog men haha

Ryan Gunion

Smegma is in on it 100%

Eric Anderson

Seriously what the hell?! What are these guys calling themselves "kidnap R Us?"

Stephen Tot

Woah!!! Haven’t seen the documentary yet, but I remember some short video on it that played up the dude it it alone. Mind blown!

Nicol Auld

Just starting g this but wanted you to know say that this is my favorite thing - watching a documentary and then listening to James and Jimmy go through it!

Heithem El-Hodiri

Just starting to listen now, but for fuck's sake poop and call 911 simultaneously.

Jeannette Pamaylaon

I miss the seltzer.

Matressa, Countess of Whorington

"I think your mother's a whore". That was a sip of wine well spent.

Matressa, Countess of Whorington

Am i crazy or did the ex's cop boyfriend maybe have something to do with it? I feel like that was touched on in the documentary but never resolved. Would love to know what everyone thinks. Thanks, James and Jimmie!

Jen Karr

I lived in Nor. Cal when this happened, but I had no idea the whole organization was a real thing 😱 I always thought he acted alone. Great story guys!!

Karen

Drink a ton of polar seltzer. The cranberry ones look alot like a budweiser can. Wich can be problematic on jobsites and such

Nash essman

The rapper E-40 is from Mare Island.

Dustyn Lumley

So many people need to be kicked in the dick.

Steve Tancredi

Ah, a hometown story for me. Can confirm, from experience, Mustard is an asshole.

imaweirdy2

Why do some men act like dicks when they're sick or in pain? I'm sorry. I had an ex like that

Alexis Smith (You're Welcome Jimmie)

So glad you covered this, it was such a rollercoaster. 😵‍💫

Jordyn Fahey

Fuck! I remember twelve hours of club volleyball

Cindy Hollenbeck

Love you guys!

Cindy Hollenbeck

Poor Mr. Rodgers

Jacob Johnson

When I watched the documentary a couple years ago I was FLOORED

Madelyn Bryant

Just opened a bottle of whine bc my boyfriend got his wisdom teeth out today and he’s being an asshole so thank you James and Jimmie

Madelyn Bryant

I lived in the Bay Area when this happened and absolutely nobody believed their story.

Dan Evans

Sweet!

K-Bad


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