Attack on Titan 4x10 Reaction

ep 11 shouldnt still be locked?

Joshua Miller

that would be awesome

KIRU

X happened: not a spoiler X happened *because Y*: a spoiler if Y isn't confirmed in the show yet

lasagnaman

X happened: not a spoiler X happened *because Y*: a spoiler if Y isn't confirmed in the show yet

lasagnaman

Unlike a lot of episodes it doesnt skip over scenes from the manga (Some lines here and there, but all the scenes are here), I love what it both pays off and sets up, I love how it explores themes from a new angle, I love the character exploration done, I love the beautiful lighting and backgrounds, and I love its structure/overall purpose. it might not be the hypest episode but it's very self contained and a great experience Not sure what you mean by i have to stop watching just because episode 11 is my favourite? if you're gonna write comments like that then u gotta stop discussing the show for the sake of people who dont want to be annoyed by your arrogant and childish words

tom

No, that guy spoils people mostly because he doesn't care as long as he gets a lot of views. There are unfortunately many channels like that, but some of them listen to sense if viewers call them out on it. The one I saw was made just for the sole purpose of spoiling. The description and comments were literally bragging about how people are getting spoiled by these videos.

Ideophagous

the ending to episode 11 is fantastic

AndreasZ

I forgot how aggressive Levi was to Historia in the manga, damn. Also yeah the anime still gets across some of the connecting experiences and dialogue Eren and Historia had. I don't see how anybody wouldn't understand why he cares and tries to protect her. As to the speculation or preference if there was any romance aspect to their relationship is welcomed but some did get way too overconfident and blew it up to ridiculous proportions. Like most shipping discussions unfortunately things ended up getting very aggressive and disrespectful from everyone involved.

AndreasZ

their relationship was non-romantic or even had any sexual interest with each other? no spoilers please, as I'm not a manga reader

JTII

I don't think they need to see every little bit If they really want to then they can read the manga instead of rewatching, but other than that the anime gets the general gist so it's fine

tom

Robert H.

Maybe the comment got edited, because I don't see a spoiler. Everything there was already explicitly established or would implicitly have to be true based on what's been explicitly established. If you're worried about their discussion being deliberately influenced in a certain direction, that's understandable. I wouldn't exactly call that spoilers though.

Jacob

How is it a spoiler if they already know that?? By the way I start watching season 4 from episode 6 the same time they did. I don’t even know what’s going to happen🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

El hombre

Bro I’m sorry but if ep11 is ur favorite episode of the season then u gotta stop watching the show

Othman

I get the thought behind it, but the world hated Paradis before they even knew who Eren or anyone were. Secondly, people seem to forget Eren was not alone in Liberio. The world saw everyone from Paradis there on that day, & if we use Willy & magath’s direct words, “this world will never let paradis do whatever they want anymore.” The world hates Eldian for things that happens centuries ago, they still hold grudge over that. I can’t wrap my mind with the thought that the world is gonna get enlighten & think differently or even begin to think differently. Udo’s words about treatment of Eldians is jarring. Sorry for the long paragraph lol

Kyogln

Your post episode discussion reminded me of this exchange: Pixis: "I once heard a song that someday humans will stop fighting, but when will that be?" Erwin: "Humans will continue to fight one another until the day there's one human or less." Pixis: *laughs* "I was hoping for a better answer than some bleak hyperbole."

enchantertim

Can't wait for Episode 11, probably my favorite of the season (tho it's a rare pick). glad you two are enjoying the short break from the craziness of S4 before it kicks back into gear

tom

Are you talking about Foxxen Anime? God I hate that channel. Got spoiled because of their thumbnails and video titles so many times. Eventually I started reading the manga and I promised myself to write a long hate e-mail to them after finishing the manga lol, but I said why waste my time..

enchantertim

to address "It just seems a bit disjointed and weird of a world building plot for the world to suddenly seperate eren from paradis people." wouldn't that be the point of having Eren's friends fight him? like you have proof that it's possible they're different, and then you work on that. i dont think it should suddenly convince them but to say it wouldn't provide an opening to work on the misunderstandings is strange

tom

@emmanuel milongo comment above contains a spoiler, be careful

lasagnaman

stop posting spoilers, especially when you are offering your own commentary/color/interpretation on what happened. If you ever have to say "a reminder about this obscure thing" just stop yourself

lasagnaman

People who know Eren's goal still disagree on what exactly it means for his character, so I'm not spoiling anything, just giving my interpretation. just bc you have the same information as someone doesn't mean you'll agree

tom

To add to your discussion of what Kruger said, he said the (pretty much) same line as Grisha (Eren's father) in season 1 episode 9: "If you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else, you must learn how to control this ability!"; whereas Kruger said "If you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else, you must see it through." Now take that as you will 👀

Luciano Santos

Eren wanted peace that time, was Eren plan to hizuru nation helped Paradis to make commerce(trade) with other nations, because that way people will see the they all want peace and they are not devils. hiruzu declined for profit and other nations wanted to see then as devils, because liked you say, helped in world stability

Vicente de Paulo Guimaraes Priante

its ok, they already got permission from LM to do so

Mohammed Al Jamal

Oh shit here we go again

ahmeddoss

Guys, stay out of the comments, and all social media (especially Twitter and YouTube) until AOT is over. A few months ago, I saw a YouTube channel that was especially dedicated to posting spoilers. They made videos with thumbnails and titles purposefully to spoil key events from the manga and anime.

Ideophagous

Chad Eren

AJ

youtube is a dangerous place to enter due to the 'suggested' videos and youtubers adding spoilers in the thumbnails... but regarding that video, yes it's a very nice one as well as the other ones the channel has.

mangacho

I would love if u guys reacted to Zurik23m's Eren video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7e3BIPdEfo&ab_channel=TUNADEN Maybe after u finish s4 part 1. Its only 5 min long and summarizes a lot of Eren's mind set (copy pasted from another patreon member because i support the idea)

killezio3 killezio3

Love your suggestion. Never seen a reactor watch's zurik's videos. The Eren one hits hard, the Reiner one is absolutely incredible. And he has more!

killezio3 killezio3

No it shouldn't.

leetmanen

A reminder: eren has some memories from the founding titan and some others from the attack titan. Also when kruger said “to save mikasa and armin” that can also mean that he had memories from a futur attack titan which is eren

El hombre

OK, Now Its getting spicy. 35:46, "To save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else."

PKS

No worries, thanks for the discussion. And excited to see how all of this wraps up.

Kyogln

There are so many things to discuss and in so much detail to do it properly, for example what other potential solutions and factors could there still be. I'm scared of going deeper into that for now though because it would be very tricky without spoilers, sorry.

AndreasZ

If I may ask, Can you clarify? And thanks, it’s nice to discuss things like this!

Kyogln

I think that's simplifying it a bit too much especially the final villain part but i definitely respect your opinion and the points you made. Thanks for discussing this.

AndreasZ

Name of the channel? Should been removed from YT

Cation

I binge watched all of season 4 within a span of a week with my ex-gf....ii needed to do this to properly process the plot and my emotions

Josue Acosta

did you know there is a channel with japanese translations of your videos ? :p

leetmanen

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0UZjAxokU2_RFjs3SY605Q/videos

leetmanen

Yeah I agree, this entire situation is fucked and it sucks but I just hope the show doesn’t end like that lol. It would seem simple. One of my fav things about AOT is how complex and nuanced the themes and conflicts are, I would hate it to be reduced to “Eren final villain, kill him to achieve temporary peace”.

Kyogln

thats why they are my favorite reactors

botchie

Definitely agree it's a gamble and far from a perfect solution but it's something to consider, especially if you look at the other choices.

AndreasZ

You guys should be storytellers. You analyze every single line and have good what-if theories and make good predictions.

Andy

My point is, that it’s a gamble more than anything. I’m not sure Eren is the type of person to gamble his peoples lives anymore. Also didn’t Eren say in season 1 to pixis that uniting humanity agaisnt a common enemy was a fairy tale? I’m pretty sure he did. I’ll confirm

Kyogln

Nah i definitely understand the theory and it sounds great on paper, but i have several issues . First, for 100 years the world was scared about something they have never seen and that was never gonna happen (The rumbling). Now that it does happen, which in a ironic way confirms the worlds fears, why would the rest of the world suddenly just be like oh okay i think we're safe now. Especially considering the treatment of eldians which according to Udo, is FAAAAR worse than marley and we just saw marley throw eldians from a fucking plane. It just seems a bit disjointed and weird of a world building plot for the world to suddenly seperate eren from paradis people. They are conjointed in their eyes, and the attack on liberio proved that. I just can't see the world ever accepting to end this war. They have adopted a "US vs them" mentality, and its clear to me paradis (floch, ectt) have also.

Kyogln

I don't think they said it would solve everything or completely change the perception of the whole world, of course not. They are just thinking it as a potential move to secure some kind of peace. The people who would be safe from a huge crisis such as a full rumbling being the ones that stop it and save everyone would be potentially a big step towards stopping this war. They also discussed some other things like the possibility of titans being gone, that conflict always exists etc.

AndreasZ

I don't know how the show ends, so i'm following along with you guys as well but it just seems too simplistic to make eren the final villlan and suddenly the world is gonna love paradis (if the crew kills him). This issue stems far beyond just one single person on either side. Like if the solution to all of this is to kill one single person, im pretty sure this entire conflict wouldn't have happened initially. Just my thoughts, could be wrong obviously. Its a good theory on paper

Kyogln

I would love if u guys reacted to Zurik23m's Eren video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7e3BIPdEfo&ab_channel=TUNADEN Maybe after u finish s4 part 1. Its only 5 min long and summarizes a lot of Eren's mind set

Arcaneatq

To clarify a bit ---- Part of the Hizuru plan is that they can control all the resources (iceburst stone) on Paradis. In the railroad flashback, when they mention "the deal fell through", that was a *separate* proposal from Paradis to Hizuru: "What if you help us trade with (and become allies to) all the other countries?" That's the part that Hizuru declined. They want the original plan where they get to control ALL the iceburst stone.

lasagnaman

They said it like 10 times but okay bud

Chris V

Yeah I don't see how they could finish the source material in under 30 eps

Chris V

Conny is definitely struggling to cope with Sasha's death. I believe it was in the previous episode that he referred to Sasha as his "twin" and said that it felt like he lost half of himself. Every time I watch that scene on the airship where Conny tells everyone that Sasha has died, it breaks my heart to see him crying out of only one eye, as if he really has "lost half of himself". I'm glad you guys are able to appreciate and understand the many, many perspectives.

Merfhew

In the last scene of this episode, Mikasa's and Armin's clothing mirrors what they were always wearing as little kids. Mikasa's pale pink robe is similar to the dress and long, pale pink sweater she always wore, and Armin has on again a light blue shirt with a sky blue sweater. (I can't think of any particular reason for this beyond the show just wanting to twist the knife, which it certainly accomplishes 😅)

Sarah

While it would still be helpful to include that Eren did say he had just over 5 years left which told us the timing of that scene.

AndreasZ

After everything we've seen throughout the show so far do you really believe "Eren isn't willing to make compromises or sacrifice anything on his own side"?! Im not absolving Eren's action just pointing out a potential reasoning and how it doesn't necessarily contradict what he said back during the train scene. I wish we could get into more detail about Eren now but...

AndreasZ

Really interesting post episode conversation. Also, I can bet that you WILL get spoiled during part 2. Better find a moderator or just don't look at the comments during part 2. For YouTube, the top voted comments should be fine I guess but especially the comments underneath the top voted comments are the most dangerous ones lol. Also I don't use Twitter so I don't know the specifics but this one reactor used a filter system by entering certain keywords that would block tweets that talk about AoT. You could do the same

enchantertim

@tom it's not wise to make any assumption about Eren goal yet...

David Sanchez

Seeing how much of a dad Levi is to the kids is one of the small glimmers of happiness now. And yes Levi is the type of dad to beat their kid's ass when they misbehave apparently lol

bondbond53

Except leaks were completely true about the first part..

tom

Not to start a debate here but that's a very black-and-white Floch-like way of thinking. "Waiting for death inside the walls". They could have been more proactive and especially couldve got a grip on the situation if Eren didn't hide information from them. This episode demonstrates that Eren isn't willing to make compromises or sacrifice anything on his own side. Historia having to pump out babies is awful sure, but she is one person and despite how hard it would be on her she was willing to grin and bear it. But Eren wants to have his cake and eat it too (And Historia ended up pregnant and miserable either way!)

tom

don‘t trust leaks.

Zero 陰陽

I love the sunset scene, one of the few happy moments of season 4. Everyone trying to save each other, blushing after Eren was openly expressing his feelings about his friends which is rare and the look between Mikasa and Eren at the end, everything was relatively lighthearted and really cute. The music was fantastic as well.

AndreasZ

If the episode count isn't 16 again it will probably be a movie ending cause there are 23 chapters to adapt in the second part and the first part cut stuff off and it took 16 ep to cover 26 chapters.

jason carvalho

It's natural to question Eren because he forced his friends to do a horrible and risky thing. It still doesn't fully take away from the idea of him trying to save those he cares about though imo, remember that the other option at that point was waiting to be attacked by Marley which could have resulted in even more casualties for them, possibly even more of his friends too. We ve seen with episodes 9&10 that they tried and considered different things but with also such limited time they didn't find anything better.

AndreasZ

Don't believe rumors...when S4P1 trailer came out, people started saying that AoT would only have 16 episodes. 🤡

Víctor G.

I really think it's amazing how you both understand the characters and what SNK is trying to portray in terms of themes, concepts etc. and big part of it is because you actually are emotionnally aware of what this and this implies for a person/a group of people etc. Like most of the time you don't project what you'd want or what you'd feel, you just accept what the characters "feels" and it makes it really easier for you to understand what is going on and what the author is trying to tell us. And the fact you're doing that, probably makes you enjoy SNK a lot more because you don't feel like the show is going somewhere it wasn't supposed to because you pictured yourself a clear path that was never hinted in the first place. You just accept and understand what is going on and you don't try to project your own ideas like they are fact and if the show doesn't go that way then it means it got lost etc. Amazing reaction once again, you girls are really like my god tier reactors when it comes to snk lol (and death note's reactions are starting to take the same path)

Lullabymeyourstory

unnecessary comment

Jaqcues

Chris V

Please guys, if you really do like the outro, check the lyrics while listening to it on YT, it's one the best outro ever.

Cation

The worst part is there's rumours that Part 2 won't even complete the series and there will be a cinematic conclusion, aka a movie that takes a whole extra year to come out in english

tom

yeah youre right all the trolls will be out in full when part 2 airs to spoil, especially given that its the end of the show. definitely stay away from twitter and youtube comments, would have to be even more cautious than you have been

Sam

Quick note - the trade agreement with Hizuru didn't fall through. Hizuru just didn't want to help Paradis trade with nations other than Hizuru in order to keep all the resources for themselves!

Al

With the Mikasa tattoo thing yeah because of some adaptation choices the anime made you just have to pretend Mikasa wore bandages around her wrist the entire series hahaha

tom

The debate you guys had towards the end has been the debate of the entire fandom for the last 3-4 years .

Paris Hardy

Yeah for some reason this episode just kind of forgot to put '1 year earlier' for the flashback with the train railway and such, even tho episode 9 wrote '3 years earlier' and the flashback in the beginning of this episode wrote '2 years earlier'. but yeah the three flashbacks inch closer to the present

tom

And yet, we still dont specifically know what Eren wants.

Dung Nguyen

Aye, we all believed in Eren at least once, but when I watched these episodes, I did wonder to what extent is he able to do in order to achieve whatever he wants.

Nagisa

finally