Better Call Saul 5x04 Reaction

If I had known it going in I would have been disappointed because he only appears a couple of times in the season.

Brendan

@Suhhh Dude I can't see that being the case. The timeline of season 4 is a full year and Jimmy and Howard have maybe a half hour worth of interaction during that time period. I don't think that there is any part of Jimmy, conscious or subconscious, that is thinking or caring about what's going on with Howard.

Shadoe Price

I also feel like Jimmy preferred it when Howard was miserable because he felt like Howard was a conduit for his guilt. As long as Howard felt the guilt and pain from Chuck’s death then Jimmy wouldn’t have to, now that a Howard is doing better he wants to make him feel bad again.

Suhhh Dude

I don't know if this was mentioned before, but Rhea Seehorn is also a painter and the birds on Kim and Jimmy's bed are actually hers. That's it, just an interesting fact :)

AriSZ

That's an excellent analysis, I was being a bit naive in dismissing Jimmy's actions as immature. I'm glad to have read this!

TeaDrinker3000

Sounds to me like she said "What is she going to think about this, I mean I don't know what's going to happen"

Shadoe Price

did she reallly know what was going to happen in the trial, as she said?

akira RK

It doesn't matter how genuine and sincere Howard's offer has become, it will always be tainted by him backing up Chuck, by not showing a spine in his own words, Howard called it a "missed opportunity" and that they "took" Jimmy's legacy away from him, again, his own words, they did him "wrong." The final nail in the coffin, Howard says that they "should" have hired him. Even if Howard had no choice and had to back up Chuck, he was still in on it. Because we know that Howard COULD HAVE stood up to Chuck if he had wanted to, he did in the end. In Jimmy's mind, if he had been hired back then, all the consequent drama would not have ensued, it would not have ended in Chuck's suicide, Even if Howard is doing the right thing, righting the wrong, even if he is trying to make amends, it is like the ultimate "Fuck you" to Jimmy. Too little too late, too much baggage. Then Jimmy sees the NAMAST3 vanity license plate. To Jimmy, he is now a part of Howard's life therapy. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy is immature and irresponsible acting the way he did, he needed therapy a long time ago. But no wonder he is slapping away Howard's gesture of amends and peace.

David Caine

Exactly, it doesn't matter how genuine and sincere Howard's offer has become, it will always be tainted by him backing up Chuck, by not showing a spine in his own words, Howard called it a "missed opportunity" and that they "took" Jimmy's legacy away from him, again, his own words, the did him "wrong." Amends or not, a gesture of peace or not, Howard's offer for Jimmy is make Howard feel better, right the wrongs, and Howard did have the balls to stand up to Chuck in the end when he had to, but didn't do it for Jimmy back then. Too little too late for Jimmy, all the ensuing drama ended in Chuck's suicide. Jimmy himself needs therapy, his childish antics have their own logic.

David Caine

@Cloudy, yeah everything you're saying is true, that's why I said "I know it's not right", lol. I don't hate Hank and I think he's a great character. I am just not a fan of those types of personalities.

Taya

The DEA and war on drugs has done an immense amount of harm to people's lives. Just sayin'. Also I didn't like how Hank dehumanized Jesse and treated him like he was expendable because he's just some worthless junkie so who cares what happens to him. Just because he's on the "right" side of the law doesn't mean he's a particularly good person.

Taya

Hm?

Shadoe Price

you'd be surprised what you can find on that internet

BNJ

I had to rewind that scene multiple times. Loved it.

Tomáš Polák

I can always tell when it's a Milena edit, cause she'll name the file 5x04 and Lola would have used 504 😀

XanderWhat

17:01 did you really know?

akira RK

😂😂😂 right?! I knew the transition into Saul Goodman would bring some changes but goddamn lmao

TeaDrinker3000

What's Jimmy doing with pictures of horses fucking people?

It's interesting to see Kim getting continuously tired of Mesa Verde, considering how she knows that they're just a 'business first' couple. Kim's trajectory of understanding that the corporate side of law just isn't what she wants is very satisfying to see.

TeaDrinker3000

I... I thought there would have been a much more shocked reaction to Acker being handed a photo of a man having sex with a horse. For me that was way more shocking than Squat Cobbler or the kids having sex with the head in the first episode 😳

TeaDrinker3000

To be fair his shitty treatment of Marie was a direct result of his PTSD, something that Marie (and eventually Hank himself) realised.

TeaDrinker3000

Paige and Kevin are really getting on my nerves with this snooty, patronizing nonsense. I say let the chimp with a machine gun go ham on them.

😂😂 milena must really love me cause she edited this one

LM Reactions

Why would anyone want to accept a job from somebody who admits they were too spineless to give it to you before and now only doing it to make themselves feel better cause they knew they made a mistake. Jimmy told him it was ancient history and hes doing his own thing but Howard insisted he thought about it. Obviously what Jimmy did was childish and a crime but Howard put himself in the position for that to happen. Before Chuck died Howard was treating Jimmy like shit now that he's dead he wants to rewite history. But the thing I love about this show is nothing is black and white with the choices people make. Just like real life.

Daniel

you can tell lola edited this episode because of her flex of being good at bowling making it in the edit lmao

Diego

Well it's like Mike describes...crooked cops, honorable thieves. Personally, I think Hank is just an un-PC guy and his racists jokes are just that, jokes. I don't think they're any maliciousness to them whereas your criminal characters have done actual physical harm to innocent people.

Julian San

as if Howard need to pay attention to Jimmy's welfare when he himself was under immense stress. He had a company to fix, a guilty conscious over possibly pushing his friend and mentor to suicide and after all this year, he was able to fix himself and his company, he decides to welcome Jimmy to his company, NOT out of pity but rather respect. He always wanted Jimmy and because Chuck was there, he was forced to say play along with Chuck's idea. Then Jimmy, the immature kid he was, decides to drop bowling balls on his car instead of saying a simple , "I decline". Idgaf how many brothers the man lost, if he did that to me, Im throwing hands.

Danny

Remember after Chuck's death when Kim yelled at Howard and told him "There's nothing you can do. Just stay away." When talking about how he could make things right with Jimmy? He should have listened to her. He offered him the job with good intentions, but even if its coming from a good place, doesnt mean its a good idea.

Daniel

I know this isn't right, but I was much more offended and disgusted by Hank's racist jokes and shitty treatment of Marie than anything Jimmy has done or even Mike killing people, LOL. Like I know Hank was "the good guy" and ultimately was the hero of BB... but still. I guess I am easily swindled by charming criminals.

Taya

Yeah! I'm sure the writers didnt want to do it but the studio probably made the choice cause they knew it would draw more viewers. The same with why on Netflix it shows Gus on the thumbnail! So annoying!

Daniel

He was definitely in the teasers. He was in the main trailer for season 5 and in the week leading up to episode 3 they made a big deal about it on the twitter accounts.

Shadoe Price

Wow, did they really? I was late to the show and Hank was easily the biggest shock of the whole show for me. I think I would have been a little upset if I had seen an announcement about it before the reveal.

Dante

They did announce Hank would show up in this season before it came out. But he wasn't in any teasers or anything. Im so happy you two didnt get spoiled for it!

Daniel