Better Call Saul 5x07 Reactions

@Taya, I understand that, but specifically about her identity and these theories around her identity aren't long stretches, the show is giving hints out about her identity a lot as of late - wherever or not she's plotting against Jimmy I personally don't think so. I think yes, Kim is definitely a criminal in her own way, and will continue to go down this path, and I think she has a secret identity, but I don't think she's working against Jimmy as others have suggested - possible but not something I'm leaning towards. My personal theory and this is what I hope for (I have no evidence of), I believe she's going to end up the one working "Ice Station Zebra Associates", and essentially being Saul's money handler whilst he promotes himself in the underground world - and she stays out of the limelight (hence not being in Breaking Bad) - so I ultimately don't think there's a nefarious plot against Jimmy. But I get frustrated that people are just straight out slamming the identity theory because many people hold her in that positive light incorrectly and use that to have a biased perspective / slam the theory as a result (not you personally @Taya)

Dustywood

@Dustywood, I disagree with the theory not because I believe in Kim's "light". In fact I'm annoyed by people that think she's some good & moral person because she's definitely not! By this point in the show, she's literally a criminal and she loves it! I know she's capable of doing very bad things. I just don't believe she'd do bad things AGAINST Jimmy. This theory doesn't work because it's not consistent with her character and with the way the story is going. I believe there's another theory/prediction that makes way more sense, is very consistent, and is actually hinted at/foreshadowed. Alas I can't talk about it till after 5.10.

Taya

@Mossy Froot, I would argue against that, the fact you're suggesting it's out of line for Kim is an indication of your bias perspective of holding Kim in a positive light, which is a misdirection. We have seen Kim scamming people before, she scammed that lady with the ol switch-a-roo tactic, we've seen her swap her marriage certificate out. Most importantly, every time Kim makes a decision, when it comes to fulfilling that decision, she has at every point and turn made a reversal move at the last minute, this is a repetitive pattern of Kim - the disposable camera for the disposable marriage, the last second marriage proposition, etc. To suggest it's out of Kim's character is a fundamental misunderstanding of Kim's character, she is going through the internal conflict of chasing what's best for her verses what she enjoys doing, and Crime is something she is very attracted to - so I have to absolutely disagree with your analysis here

Dustywood

i always figured the no middle name thing was pretty obviously to indicate that whoever named her (kim's deadbeat single mother presumably) didn't care enough to give her a middle name. just a way to flesh out her background a bit. the implications for the theory would be way too significant for how obscure/elaborate the setup is and out of character it would be for kim. very much out of line from how the writers usually approach big twists.

Froot

Also, the disposable camera! Disposable marriage! Fantastic prop use

Dustywood

I'm with you on this theory, I think there are a lot of people that blindsight themselves to Kim's "light" and assume she has no bad intentions, or history, but these people that are shutting down this theory are bias, and that's the problem. This show highlights many cons, and in every con movie or show, there's always the long "long con", and we don't know wherever or not she is running the "Long Con". People that slam this theory are literally being biased in their perspectives or fondness for Kim, because in reality they don't know what happens themselves, but if they're going to go out of their way to slam this view, then they have their own personal agenda towards how they want the outcome of Kim's character ark to be. There is a lot of evidence pointing towards Kim having another agenda, and the camera angles of the shots that the Directors are taking here are no coincidence.

Dustywood

I agree that Kim doesn't have any reason to want to screw over Jimmy... right now. We don't know how their relationship might develop. Kim has always been someone that is meticulous and careful. It could well be that she wanted to give herself an out to dissolve the marriage should a situation come up that would suit her. I think it would absolutely be in her character even though she loves Jimmy to put down safeguards in case things go badly. And if there's one thing we know for a fact... Jimmy becoming Saul is the result of things going badly. Let's see what happens. This show rarely does things for no reason. And it's also the WAY that they framed the marriage scene. It was from Jimmy's perspective and not really much from Kim's side. I'd be very surprised if this doesn't come up again somewhere down the line.

Camzeee

I've argued against this theory in the BCS subreddit so many times, I'm tired lol. It makes no sense for Kim to want to scam Jimmy. She's a very complex character and sometimes hard to understand but one thing I think the show has made very clear is her absolute love and devotion for Jimmy. She knows the kind of person he is, she's ALWAYS known, and she accepts him regardless. Yes he betrayed her but she still wants to be with him anyway, and getting married was her way of 'solving' their communication problems. I would go into more detail but I can't, really, until we finish season 5. I think people are reading too much into the courthouse scenes. If Kim really were to scam Jimmy I'm certain the show would drop a lot more foreshadowing about it (something more significant than having to pause and look closely at a blurry background to see what Kim is doing). because otherwise it would come out of left field. IMO it would be a very dumb "twist" and I'd absolutely hate it if they go in that direction, lol!

Taya

Potential theory/spoiler for Season 6: ... That scene where Jimmy and Kim get married at the start of this episode has a lot of strange incidents which suggest there's something going on they're not telling us. Kim says 'looks that way' when he says they're getting married. And then she's shown looking over the forms in a weird way in the foreground when Huell is suggesting to Jimmy they go on a honeymoon. Then when they're saying the vows, the judge says 'hmm no middle name'. That seems like an odd line to keep in unless it has some significance. Theory is that Kim has setup a scam marriage of a sort and will somehow get back at Jimmy for betraying her trust in the previous episode. How or why she's doing this, or even whether Jimmy is in on it or not, is yet to be seen. But that marriage scene definitely left clues that not everything is as it seems.

Camzeee

One half is Jimmy, other half is Saul - the internal conflict he's going through

Dustywood

Yeah I would hardly say that Jimmy doing the skateboard con two years ago and then offering a discount to a couple of idiots is him getting himself in this position. He's clearly here at this point because of fear and honestly Nacho and Mike have more to do with him being in this situation than himself (which I do think is wonderfully ironic given how much Nacho and Mike have tried to fight against their own positions even though they were much more directly involved in getting themselves there in the first place).

Shadoe Price

Would love to see Gus's origin story.

Kase West

Sure, inadvertently. Not like he was chasing down Ignacio to come into this world.

Alejandro Gil

I mean that gives jimmy to little credit, he got himself in this position.

T0ast

That shot of jimmy sitting down and then suddenly being standing up talking is such a brilliant transition. He is just in auto pilot, and he really doesn't want to help Lalo get out. You see the little smug look on Jimmy's face when the judge sets the bail at 7 million bc he thinks that Lalo won't be able to pay it. It makes this much sadder that Jimmy does have a conscious and is now being forced to help these guys

Alejandro Gil

10% of bail is what you pay a bail bondsman - a bail bondsman puts up the full amount but get's it all back when their client shows up for trial. the court wants the full 7 million, not 10%

mrjackpotz

Saul mentioned being twice divorced in BB too, which strongly implies that he and Kim never got divorced.

Hitopopamus

"I am the one who knocks."

David Caine

They would have to recast but why not?

Ryan Roach

In BB when Jesse and Walt take Saul out to the desert to scare him Saul says: "No it wasnt me it was Ignacio (Nacho Varga)" and "Lalo didnt send you"? I like that we got a new show where these unknown characters plays a big part.

Darazanjoll

It's just wishful thinking, but a la El Camino, I would love to see a movie about what the hell went down in Santiago

Michael M

I suggest you to go watch that scene once more my friend :)

Krystal

Pablo Martin

I am so, so, SO excited for them to see the next three episodes. Some of my favourite moments from the entire Breaking Bad universe are coming up!

TeaDrinker3000

He had the most apathetic sauce tasting scene i have yet to see.

Imthecatman

The guy Gus was talking to in the hotel with Lydia was in Breaking Bad, only had a couple scenes, Episode 1 of Season 5. After the police raided his office, he went into the bathroom with a defibrillator and you know...

Steven Jeanrolus