Itaewon Class Episode 8 Cut/Uncut Reaction!

I don’t think she’s actually a sociopath because how could she feel love? Sociopaths don’t even know what love feels like, they have to mimic emotion. With that being said, she’s just a bit of a brat with a really blunt attitude. She has her good moments, but in many ways she’s just still a know it all kid in my opinion. But in her defense, I don’t think she was being racist to Toni because he’s not of Korean ethnicity clearly, only of nationality and culture so yeah he is Korean in that way but Korea is still a country that is not very diverse, so I think she was just being too honest, maybe a tad ignorant, but not racist.

Olivia M

Do people in here not know what sociopathy is or what? It’s already a big thing that she apologized, doesn’t matter the reason. Most real life sociopaths don’t even care to apologize. She is dealing with something she didn’t ask to be born.

Yanjne

Yea Yi Seo pissed me tf off in this episode and I try to understand the reasoning but it’s still quite hurtful to watch. Either way I’m glad the show highlights the racism that exists in Korea because even now black ppl are still treated this way and banned from some clubs

Anu Awofeso

oh you ate this up i wish i could get this comment tattooed on my mf forehead

Sydney Defreitas

she literally lacks empathy because of her diagnosis. It is not a justification but there is a actual reason for why she acts this way.

Mylikiah (Kiki)

here comes the controversial comments about Yi-Seo ... lmao

Mylikiah (Kiki)

oh same 💀 sometimes my extra knowledge about things makes kdramas so unrealistic that I cannot watch it lmfao. I would have been SO HAPPY with the drama if Saeroyi ended up single bc it would show character development on both Soo-ah and Yi-seo's parts, but... alas....

Sydney Defreitas

I don't know if I can translate perfectly because I'm not good at English, but I'll write down a few words. Korea deals with many social problems and thinks it has officially improved, but there are still many Koreans who think there are problems and need to change in the general society. For example, if you make remarks like racism in Korea, it becomes a social burial. That's the atmosphere inside Korea. Especially when famous K-pop stars or celebrities say wrong things such as racist remarks or homophobia, they are treated as strange people. The important thing here is that there are still problems and there are many Koreans who think it needs to be improved!! It will be better in the future.

su kim

yes! like you wouldn’t feel bad if you just stopped doing the thing that supposedly makes you feel bad! ugh. she drove me insaneee!!!

Nikki Sonrisa

Thank youuuu, becuz fr why was she always around😭and she always ends up telling Chairman Jang what they are up to anyways, it’s mad annoying, like some friend she is💀. Miss girl goes “I feel bad” but doesn’t stop doing the thing that supposedly makes her feel bad. The love interest in this show are….lord

Fiyin Cole

whew the think pieces here.... feels like I'm back in 2020. anyways this is where the show started to lose me the general plot is good though so i hope yall at least continue to enjoy that

bitterfit

yeah, that makes a lot of sense, thank you for clarifying :) i guess because i look at it from the realistic standpoint instead of the drama's perspective, it makes it hard to like the relationship romantically. i personally enjoy the relationship more on a friendship level. i feel like from what you described regarding what may possibly be her reasons for being interested in Saeroyi, Yiseo's character can be just as impactful and show growth as a character without romance being involved you know what i mean? idk if that makes sense lol regardless, thank you again for providing me more insight on this personality disorder :)

Just because you disagree with my analysis of the show, doesn't mean you get to spoil the show for anyone else. Delete your comment or edit it. No one needs to know if or who anyone ends up with. And let's not pretend that the 'sleeping/drunk/ambiguously consented' kisses aren't a full trope in most dramas. Like cancer, amnesia, secret births, etc. etc. etc., this is one of the most used tropes. Unfortunately, it's not really our call whether they put it in the show or not, but Koreans don't see much of an issue with this yet. They are learning and working on their 'me too' movement still. For now, this will unfortunately continue to be a trope. Don't have to like it. Don't have to watch it. But it's still going to be there whether you like it or not. EDIT: Again, sorry for being rude. Please continue to have a good day.

Snax

oh yes it is lol! It's pretty unrealistic. Sociopaths only "fall in love" when it is to benefit themselves or for personal gain. It's a love of power or a love of reaching what their idea of success is. So the crying and the "suddenly feeling bad about Saeroyi's past" part that happened last episode would NEVER happen in real life. I said in my comment earlier that I'm letting it slide because it's a drama and you wouldn't have, well, drama without it. However, if you wanted to believe it's true, it could be said that she "fell in love" with Saeroyi because he was unpredictable to her and she wanted to like him and work with him because she wanted to disobey her mother/prove her mother wrong. The crying, however, is extremely unrealistic and, again, if it was real life, she'd only cry to fake emotion. Also sociopaths don't have the ability to be jealous or envious in the way that Yiseo is (if a real sociopath is jealous, they could be extremely dangerous and isolate the person they want from everyone to have the person for themselves). so the "love triangle" and the "being jealous of other women with Saeroyi" would also have never happened.

Sydney Defreitas

I love Geun-soo but everyone is so mad at Yi-Seo for treating him like crap when he continues to be around her and talk to her. He allows himself to be put in positions to be manipulated to a certain extent. But she doesn’t have to be so mean.

Mya

the topic about personality disorders comes up while i am currently studying the dsm came at a right time, what a coincidence lmaoo 😂 okay, so i have a genuine question in relation to antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy). based on the diagnostic criteria, a person with this disorder has lack of remorse, lack of empathy, can be manipulative, can get easily angry/agitated, etc. but if a sociopath is only able to describe what love is but not actually have the ability to really feel/give love, why is Saeroyi the exception? isn't it unrealistic for Yiseo to be a sociopath but also be in love Saeroyi? and again im just basing this from my understanding about antisocial personality disorder (sociopathy) im not too informed on this subject so im curious lol :)

thank you for this comment. I learned a lot about the cultural impact of the show that I didn't know before.

Nikki Sonrisa

Agree with Snax. It does seem this show (and the female leads) are quite misunderstood and hated on by the younger generation, especially non-Koreans, because they just don't know. This isn't just a revenge drama, it's a social commentary. The Danbam crew is made up of a trans woman, a biracial server, 2 ex-convicts (one of them being a high school dropout) and a sociopath; all of them not so welcomed in the Korean society. The show explores LGBTQ+ stigma, racism, discrimination, power politics, abusive parenting and more of Korean society's untouchable institutions and traditions head on. A lot of people voted against this show because this show portrays these social issues as if it's wrong to be a trans or a different race, or because they hate Yiseo. But the reality is Korea is NOT the US, and there are many many people like Yiseo (and Sooah). And because of this and for this show being such a big hit in Korea (and Japan) it truly did educate a lot of the ignorant Yiseos IRL. Hong Seok Cheon making his cameos throughout the show was also super meaningful since he was the very first public figure to come out. He got a lot of heat for it back then because those times were very ignorant and unforgiving to be gay in Korea. His acting career went bust for it back then, but he became a real Saeroyi with his successful restaurant businesses. The reason I kept suggesting and voting for this show to be reacted to on here was because I was hoping this show would be educating and inspirational to some.

Ashley K

I like Yi-Seo but Sometimes I forget that She's is a sociopath she don't care about others feelings and shows no regard for right or wrong, but she made me hate her this episode. She only made things right because Sae-ro-yi was mad at her. She treats Geun-soo like crap, what she did to Toni was outta pocket . For Soo-ah I just don't like her, I don't want Sae-ro-yi with her I feel like she uses him. She needs to stop coming around why is it when something happens you always lurking or trying to put your two cents in like someone gives af.

Dessi

Ya no we hate the female lead yi seo because she kissed sea royi without consent when he was drunk and never owned up or felt guilty about it and this was the girl searoyi ends up with. How is that in any way ok?? I understand the racism and homophobia this show tackles, but the female lead in this show is just not it. She is extremely selfish and only apologizes for her actions to tony, geunsoo because it affects searoyi. She doesnt do it because she suddenly “realizes racism isnt okay”

Anya

Not once did yi seo apologize or own up to sea royi for kissing him without his consent when he was drunk. Also funny you are calling me less intelligent when you are standing up for an extremely toxic character who just owns up to shit because she loves searoyi. She is selfish and does it only for her selfish motives throughout the show

Anya

I think many people hate Yiseo, and they are not wrong in that decision by any means. However, as someone who studies psychology and personality disorders specifically, I think the direction they took with Yiseo only apologizing to Toni because of Saeroyi is on brand for someone with sociopathic tendencies. To reiterate, a sociopath disregards the rights and feelings of others, and rarely shows emotions or guilt. Most importantly, it is VERY hard for someone with sociopathic tendencies to LEARN FROM MISTAKES and/or punishment. If you guys remember from the last episode, Yiseo crying for Saeroyi after hearing about his story and seeing his scars was the first time she had ever shown emotions for someone other than herself, because she realized she was in love (I don't like that she shows emotion for the first time bc of a crush but I don't expect a drama to be 100% accurate. Also, sociopaths have the ability to recognize and denounce racism, so I didn't like that either). Anyway, Since Yiseo is extremely smart, she recognizes that she doesn't care for anyone except herself and now, Saeroyi. So, as a sociopath, one of the only ways she would be able to show remorse or learn from a mistake would be through something that only affects her (the person affecting her being Saeroyi). That apology was most likely very hard for her to understand AND carry out. Not that her actions were excusable, but I wanted to give y'all a perspective you may not be aware of.

Sydney Defreitas

Someone not liking a show or a character does not make them less intelligent. That’s pretty rude.

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I super annoyed with how much SooAh was hanging around DanBam in this episode. like, why are you here? nobody needs you around butting in and borrowing ice. go get your own ice! lol

Nikki Sonrisa

This show highlights the social issues that are still rampant in South Korea today. I think a lot of people who watched this drama and have such an issue with it are those who discovered Korea through Kpop or have watch dramas that idealize South Korea as some perfect country with perfect looking people. In all honesty, racism, colorism, homophobia, and all kinds of prejudices still reign there. Even amongst the younger crowd. A lot of influencers who state they're inclusive have these closeted behaviors still that they don't see a problem with because they 'aren't as bad' as others. But it's still a problem. Kpop idols, producers, directors, actors, and comedians have all been caught and called out for incredibly racist and prejudiced actions and films and music etc. etc. etc. But their fans turn the other cheek because they want to continue to live in that perfect fantasy. This show was actually quite the hit in Korea because the writing was so real and highlighted something that many knew was a problem but didn't have the courage or the ability to speak up about. This influenced a lot of decisions made about foreigners and the lgbtq community in South Korea. The people who dislike this show tend to be international fans and they don't understand the reason these issues are being pointed out and they don't see the difference it made in Korea. Ignorance is bliss. But choosing ignorance is not ok.

Snax

yeah that's totally fine. like if this were real life, I'd want Saeroyi to be alone. but since it's a drama and we know he has to end up with someone, I'd pick YiSeo any day. but yes, agree to disagree :)

Nikki Sonrisa

Not that it's a competition, but there are toxic characters in 80 percent of kdramas out there. Also, YiSeo is not toxic throughout the entire show. She has amazing self realization and growth throughout the show. EDIT: I'm sorry. I told myself to be kinder to people from now on. I was harsh and insulted your intelligence. You are obviously allowed to not like a character written and perceived as intended, unlikeable. Have a better day.

Snax

Its crazy that there actually ARE clubs in Seoul that don't let foreigners in based on skin colour. And with Yiseo, I really didn't like what she said to Toni, but I see (sigh) where her ignorance came from. I dont like how the writers made her personality disorder be the reason she was horrible to Toni. But that aside (my anger goes to the writers with all the messed up stuff they made Yiseo do) with a personality disorder myself, Yiseo is still a character I love because I really understand her 😭😭

kar raichand

Yi seo is so cringe and toxic throughout the whole show. Lets not forget that she kissed saeroyi without consent when he was drunk.??? Like imagine if a male lead did that to a female lead but because she did it,everyone brushed past it and quickly forget it. Itaewon class went downhill last couple of episodes and it was such a disappointment honestly

Anya

I don’t like the idea of either of them ending up with Saeroyi, and honestly I couldn’t sense any personal growth in Yiseo because as I said I feel like everything ’good’ she does is for Saeroyi to like her. But we can agree to disagree! :)

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how can we expect people to grow unless we show them the right way? I disagree that she's a "bad person", just a misguided one. every human being on the planet is guided by incentives and eventually, those extrinsic motivations can become intrinsic ones. I'd much rather have someone like YiSeo who fights for me no matter what, than someone like SooAh who uses me because they know they can walk all over me and I'll just take it.

Nikki Sonrisa

This episode is why I’ll never get behind Yiseo. She’s just a bad person. She does something fucked up, realizes Saeroyi is mad at her for doing it, and that’s the only reason she tries to make up for her mistake. She does everything for Saeroyi with weird selfish intentions LOL I just can’t with her.

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