Webinar #69: “The Coming Sino-American War”

On the point of ethic cleansing, ever heard of the oeghur concentration camps? Just because you can get different type of food doesn't mean the CCP has an obvious complex against other races that don't agree with their culture. Not even talking about the 'no blacks allowed signs'. Sure the average Chinese person is just a normal human being like everyone else.

as a Chinese who travel back and forth between US and China for more than a decade, my reaction towards the factions in the USA I was like “hum interesting never heard of that” and I don’t know maybe ur on some point or ur totally off, but I can’t stop laughing when u start talk about china, hhhhh Taiwanese success is an insult to CCP? Hhhhhhh no on opposite CCP can use Taiwan as the perfect example of the how shitty and ridiculous this western democracy can get if they ever want to so, and in chinese internet taiwan is the source of entertainment and there is almost a “monkey watching” situation towards Taiwanese, and ethic cleansing? U won’t say that if u just check on the food delivery app in China, or even a close look of chinese street picture……unfortunately I have to tell u that in the case of understanding eachother’s nation between US and China on civilian level it’s literally one side transparency, ur wayyyyyyy too far from reality

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I like the coach and the program but I feel he is biased against the Chinese. lol Still an entertaining show, though with a huge generalization towards Mainlanders. Just for clarity I am an ethnic Chinese born in Canada but speaks Cantonese and have learned Mandarin. It takes time to cultivate "class" so I must give my ethnic homeland a break as they try to regain whatever prestige they feel was lost. :)

if you want a better format, DM me and I can send you a PDF, as patreon messed up the format

Rebuttal to the Sino-American War Like my last comment on the Euro, I apologize if I made grammatical errors or if something is incoherent or redundant, I spent way too much time on this and just want to put this out there for the discussion before it becomes irrelevant. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press is something I feel strongly about. A world where China is the global hegemony scares the shit out of me, as it should anyone. I invested a lot of my time researching this in the past, and I wanted to share my thoughts. Intro: I believe you’re wrong regarding a war with China for the following reasons: Deep connections with American elites Not part of confusion ideology, the play the long game We can’t just have a war like we did in the past Economic woes Allies - no one really like China, with the exception of Russia, Pakistan and Iran Big brother never works - what little free enterprise they have, they've been cracking down on, as we’ve seen with imprisonment of people like Jack Ma and other executives. I meant to call in on the webinar, but couldn't make the last two. Before I criticize you, I want to applaud you on the geopolitical analysis you’ve been giving - I thought the Duran podcast and the State of the Union were fantastic, but I think the podcast on China may have Trumped it; however, I still disagree with you. 1. Deep connections with American Elites There are several reasons I think you are wrong, but I think the best reason is because Obama, Biden and their cronies have deep connections with China. The Obama/Biden establishment has been raking in billions in Chinese money. I don't think that will change anytime soon. The PDF link at the bottom was shared by Kyle Bass, one of the most altruistic and patriotic elites in our country. If you don’t want to read through it, I’ll give you some of the highlights. Joe Biden was initially hawkish on China until James, one of his sons, set up a hedge fund as a way of soliciting money from China. He publicly criticized Clinton for his stance on China before he started raking in the Chinese money. In 2001, when Biden became the chairman of the SFRC, China was allowed into the WTO Hunter has been meeting with the Chinese since 2011 regarding his stake in BHR partnership, a hedge fund reserved for Chinese aristocrats. Biden’s family is likely generating tens of millions a year off this deal with the CCP. Many of their meetings were on taxpayers’ dime, as the VP’s family is protected by the secret service. (Remember when the MSM relentlessly talked about Trump getting secret service protection to play golf?) Hunter has been working to promote trade deals with Ukraine and China. Additionally, Biden and Hunter were dumb enough to take pictures with some of the Chinese business tycoons, who ended up receiving subsidies or government contracts. In 2009 when Biden became VP, Hunter surrounded himself with CCP agencies, such as Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Council for the Promotion of International Trade, which sought to influence foreign affairs in favor of China. Lu Guanqui bought out Richard Daily (a Chicago cronie) and Obama to receive tax credits (paid for by our tax dollars). His company was also able to evade US sanctions against North Korea. William Bulger, long time senator from MA, founded Thorton, a consulting organization which pushed back against anti-subsidy agreements for China. For example, we give a significant subsidy to shipping Chinese packages via the post office. It costs less to send a package from China than it would be from say Chicago to St. Louis. In return, Thornton was allowed to build power plants in China. Other notes: At the beginning of the year, BlackRock (one of Obama’s largest donors - he bent over backwards many times to kiss their ass) entered the wealth management industry in China - you don’t get approval from the CCP unless you are very corrupt Largest hedge fund in the world, BridgeWater and Associates portfolio is heavily weighted in Chinese equities. Ray Dailio, the founder, is certainly part of the NYC liberal establishment Our Lord and Savior, Fauchi must have some ties to the CCP or he wouldn’t have been as belligerent as he was when Rand Paul called him out for funding the Wuhan lab. The Chinese have infiltrated our universities for the past decade. They recently “donated” 1 billion to Harvard. The Bush administration had connections with China. GW’s brother received hundreds of millions in contracts to produce semiconductors despite no knowledge of the semiconductor industry. Under the Obama administration, we saw the Chinese steal 100’s of billions of dollars of IP theft each year. With the Dems in power, who cheated once, who’s to say they won't cheat again and keep kissing China’s ass for their money to the detriment of our nation? Who’s to say this won't go on in 2024, 2028, 2032, ect? In another one of your videos you discussed a civil war, which I think will likely occur before a war with China. (On a side note, that would be a great time for China to take over Taiwan.) It’s not just Dems. Republicans are also at fault, albeit significantly less than the democrats. For all Trump’s purported pushback against McConnel and how he’s somehow this anti establishment, America first president, he still placed Elaine Chao as his secretary of commerce. Her family founded CSSC, China’s largest defense contractor and ship builder. Their family has deep connections to the BoC and CCP in general (read the first chapter of Stealth War for more details.) She also happens to be McConnel’s wife. Chao’s family has donated millions to his campaign (fuck that turtle). 2. Game of Chess Additionally, China views global domination as a game of chess, not a war of the traditional sense with violence. They think strategically and long-term. One example of this is the Belt and Road initiative. They’ve already bought the governments of Italy, Pakistan and many countries in Africa. I plan on talking about that more on one of your podcasts because as I’m writing this, I’ve caught myself spending many hours researching and backing up my arguments. (for more details on how China thinks strategically, read Destined for War). On a side note, I think you and The Duran are wrong on the issue of global hegemony. China wouldn't be investing 100s of billions in the Belt and Road initiative, which is to establish soft power, in a similar way the US did after the second world war by issuing loans denominated in dollars to the battered European countries. Or where the US almost forces countries to denominate oil contracts in dollars. For example, it’s even accepted by the liberal establishment, such as the Economist, that the reason for Al-Gaddafi's death is due to him pricing oil contracts in currencies other than the dollar. 3. Traditional War My third reason is that the Chinese recognize how catastrophic a war would be because it could (and I would argue likely would) break out into a nuclear war. With Harris, Biden and Obama (or whoever is actually in charge) we would have no idea how they would respond. I think you underestimate how catastrophic a nuclear war would be. Without going into too much detail (because this is getting too long), you can read Gramm Alison’s book on Nuclear Terrorism if you’re interested. The fallout from just a war with Pakistan and India alone would be enough to kill billions of people as a result of the ensuing climate change. 4. Economic Woes You talk about hyperinflation with the dollar, but M2 has grown from 1T to over 30T since 2000 in China. Comparably, the dollar grew from 5T to 20T. See the video link with Kyle Bass and Guo Wengui. Wengui is despised by the CCP, and his predictions are coming true (see the end with Jack Ma) Less than 1% of all global transactions are settled in yuan or renminbi. They’re desperately short dollars Economic woes, as you pointed out, include: overbuilding of housing, large debt to GDP - around 300% (sans a war, the Yuan will hyperinflate before the dollar), their corporate debt to GDP is one of the worst in the world, shadow banking is much worse than ours. According to Kyle Bass, their banking system is leveraged 40:1 (can’t find the source). To put that into perspective, the US was leveraged in the upper 20s before the GFC. Their most ominous signs of failure are their demographic problems and their lack of free enterprise. Economists like to say China will get old before it gets rich. 5. Allies - a lot of countries hate China, and would thus likely side with the US Lately, Britain has been publicly criticizing China for forced labor in Xinjiang, where the Uighurs are located. Back in April, they were one of the first countries to call out genocide in the country. As a result, they’ve been boycotting products from the province. That’s a pretty bold stance. Granted, it’s probably not out of altruism (look at what they did to Assange.) I don’t know their intentions, but I do know they don’t like China. Australia, US, Briaian and Canada (probably more) have banned Huawei’s 5g technology. 5g is a major gateway for the Chinese to use espionage to obtain IP. (see Robert Spalding’s book and the chapter on 5g for more details). The fact that the west figured this out is a major blow to China’s strategy. Portugal has been pushing back China’s investments in their country. Germany would likely be on the US’s side, as they’ve had their own issues with China and are the ones behind the Russian sanctions over the past few years. Germany and France recently sent over war ships to aid the allies with China’s aggression in the South China sea. Whoever’s side Germany takes, the rest of the EU will likely follow. (An idea for a podcast for you would be to explain why you think Germany is cozying up with Russia. I don’t understand how they can place sanctions on them, while simultaneously, in your words, think “they’re cozying up with the Russian’s over Nordstrum Two.” But, your mind is bigger than mine so maybe you know something that I don’t.) Australia and China are not getting along well at all. The CCP put sanctions on Australia because Prime minister Morris suggested that there should be an investigation into the Wuhan lab. If Australia doesn’t like China, New Zealand will likely side with Australia. Saudies, Israel, UAE - US allies, no question. Japan and South Korea hate China - they’ve been having disputes in the South China sea for years. Additionally, the Chinese hate Japan because of the Rape of Nanjing. As you’ve mentioned in your webinar, Vietnam doesn't like China either. India, also despises China. They had a recent breakout which killed 40 or so people. Additionally, China backs Pakistan - India and Pakistan hate each other over Kashmir. (Maybe we would have heard about these major, important geopolitical affairs; but, indoctrinating kids into becoming transgenders and teaching them critical race theory, with the exception of the Uigers, is much more important, obviously.) With all these countries against China, I don’t see how they would want a war, at least in the near future. 6. Read just a smidge of history to understand this point Conclusion: Having said all that, I almost think a nuclear war would be less scary than a world where China does rise to global hegemony. We could be living in some dystopian 1984 society where you could be vaporized for a thought crime. Unfortunately, it looks like that’s the direction that America is heading as well, with the Pasaki’s comments on free speech and ironically the tech titans’ collusion with the US government (replace the US with Russia and you’d see the dem’s hypocrisy just 4 years ago) seems as scary as China’s totalitarian regime. But, that’s what pills and booze are for, am I right? Recommended if you’re apprehensive about China’s ascension Follow Kyle Bass on twitter Steve Bannon Designed for War - Graham Alison Stealth War - Robert Spalding (short read) The Caspian Report - Youtube Duran - Youtube (Ty Gonzola) https://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/KVBJHB.pdf Good interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cwXifDaCjE

one caveat: Why seize Taiwan by force when it can fall into PRC's lap by economic integration which is increasing - Taiwanese companies are more and more expanding into the PRC and unless this attack would be a deception to lure the USA into a war, it would not provide immediate gains for the PRC. the latter has time, and plan for a 2049 "peaceful integration" instead. in your scenario - which is really interesting - could a hot war with the USA happen through other means, other pretextes?

Piero San Giorgio

Here are some issues with the Russian hypersonic weapons that the Coach is not taking into account. While Mach 7-10 might sound impressive, it’s actually not that fast for a missile. Standard ICBMs that have been around for decades can travel as fast as Mach 20, and they can be intercepted even at those speeds. With the hypersonic you’d just need to take them out closer to target, which any modern American air defense system is more than capable of doing. Secondly, the hypersonic missiles cannot track a moving target in flight and adjust the trajectory to the target, which means that it won’t work against non-stationary targets like moving aircraft carriers. Lastly, modern weapons are only as good as its electronics, and in that area Russia is seriously lagging behind the west. They cannot even produce a decent smart phone, and reply on foreign imports of most electronic parts, which means that the effectiveness of any of their weapon systems are questionable, and are just being overpraised by Russian propaganda, which has been done with all their weapons for many decades. The Russian S-400 air defense systems that Coach mentioned, have proven to be moderately effective at best in Syria, and despite Russia’s claims that Syrian airspace has been “put on lockdown”, and it didn’t stop the Israeli Air Force of carrying out air raids in the region. Turkey who purchased a test batch of these systems has also not renewed its contract for further deliveries. As an old Russian saying goes “It looked good on paper, but then we hit a pothole”.

One thing about Russia-China relationship that you’re missing Coach is taking their claim of absence of border disputes as well as the presence the of the friendship agreement at face value. Russia also said prior to 2014 that it has no territorial claims against Ukraine and that Crimea is an integral part of Ukraine. Putin said so himself in an interview, plus Ukraine and Russia had a friendship and cooperation agreement in place, but what did Russians do? They wiped their ass with it by invading and occupying Ukraine at the first good opportunity. I imagine that a similar pact between Russia and China is just as unstable, as many Chinese consider the Russian Far East lands as “temporarily lost territories”.

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Answer from a non-American: I don't think anyone here would be happy if Portland literally were nuked. What that kind of statement expresses in reality is the notion that it is a shame that in the process of saving the country and its freedom, it would be necessary to save the sorry skins of the Leftist traitors in Portland and elsewhere as well, when those people would not appreciate it nor deserve the freedom that has been so hard-won.

Question from a non-america, why you all be happy if they nuke portland?

Perhaps - however the Americans did just pull out of the middle-east almost entirely. A war is necessary for the neo-cons and corrupt politicians to get their kick-backs from the military industrial complex. I'll bet you any money that there will be some kind of war/ conflict soon. It doesn't really matter to the elite if America does lose the war. Worst case scenario, they can take their pots of gold and run somewhere else.

One scenario I see to be missing is the idea that China may invade Taiwan, and no one does anything about it except wag their fingers for the cameras. I imagine a moment opening where China sees an especially weak US leadership and only strikes Taiwan. I do not think that a coalition would form either, and I cannot imagine a weak US leadership going to major war alone. The US and the world would stand by and let it happen.

Fucking outstanding presentation. Goddamn coach, you're at elite level here. Wish I could have caught this one live.

Great webinar as always, Coach really knows his stuff. I am myself half Chinese, and a large part of my family lives on the mainland. The attitudes have definitely turned more “war-mongery” in recent years. Still, imo rhetoric is rhetoric, and I don’t think an invasion of an island with the population of Australia is in the cards. I don’t think Coach got any of the facts wrong, and all the arguments follow logic. I agree of the possibility of a Sino-US clash, it is just the magnitude of a Taiwan invasion is too costly for the Chinese. Taiwan is a tough place to invade. Think D-day but worse. They have been preparing for an invasion since 1949, and every single military exercise, training, weaponry purchased, is in anticipation of this invasion. China may be prepared, and may very well win due to its sheer numbers. However this would bring immense casualties to the PLA. Think about the Tiananmen Square protests and now 30 years on, the CCP still has to suppress memorials of it. What would future Chinese think of the legitimacy of a government that sent tens of thousands of young boys to near certain death, to conquer an island inhabited by fellow Chinese. Diminishing US influence means China would have much easier means to project soft power to Taiwan. The leadership there is much more likely to kowtow to China’s demands and fall into its sphere of influence quite organically. Not to mention the nuclear war scenario - The CCP is no longer what it was 50 years ago. There is new blood in the leadership, and although authoritarian it is far from the recklessness of the Mao era.

I mean with how coach said it america would lose a war with china. All china has to do is secure Taiwan. Now this assumes neither side goes crazy and decides to launch tactical or strategic nukes then in that situation all bets are off.

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America is a defeated people. They—and you—haven't realized it yet.

It will be interesting to see what the Islamic world does and the internal wokesters do. Pakistan will go with China and fight India. Saudi and Turkey will ally with US, the latter to fight for the Uighurs. The European Muslim jihadis will try attack China. Chechens might attack Russia. Africa is useless. South America has Chinese investment but too close to the US geographical to fuck around. Japan, Aus and Korea will be on the US side. Germany, France & Italy will as usual sit this out. The woke in the US will side with China but during war any treason against the corporate mainstream will be crushed. Especially with a Dem President. The right wing and Trumpsters will always support the US. Not sure what the UK will do. Our private schools and institutions like our European counter part have been invaded by Chinese money. But everyone wants to get rid of the Chinese hand around their throats. Another Boxer Rebellion?

Yep, India will immediately open up a Second Front, pulling away all the troops that the friendship with Russia has freed up

I reckon Christians will be embraced regardless of ethnicity….and only Chinese Asians will get the helicopter, it’s well-known that all other Asians hate them

Hi Coach. Three observations that I want to make on your commentary: 1. I think you forgot about one important country. It has second in population only to China and has nuclear weapons. If China goes to war India won't stay quiet about this. India could very well join the war if there's a conflict. That would be a nightmare for china. 2. America has a history of not backing up when they attack their territory. During WW2, after pearl harbour, America went to work and started building quickly. Yes, I agree with your point that the weapons in this era take a long time to build, but America wouldn't back down. They would take decades if necessary to rebuild and prepare a counteroffensive. I don't think it would be over if China eliminates the bases. America wouldn't surrender. They would eternize the war if necessary. 3. If China attacks with misiles by surprise I don't think the Europeans would stay quiet. The images and videos of the attack would spread like wildfire on social media. It all depends on how the public perceives. There's a chance that the European people can't forgive the Chinese after seeing the horrors of the treacherous attack and NATO has to act. If China attacks the US NATO has to act. And remember, there's the fear that they (the Europeans or any other country honestly) will be next and will attack. In WW2 that's why France and the UK attacked Germany after what happened with Poland and the Sudetenland. They knew they were next.

If the United States got hit by China, they would freak out and eat, drink, and breathe war overnight. Your right that production takes a little bit of time, but after the us got hit every man, woman, and child’s attention would be military domination. Your comparing China and Russia to the current US that goes out of their way to not look threatening. Once the US gets a black eye they will blow the shit out of everything. I guarantee it.

Excellent talk! Really engaging and very plausible. Question: I'm worried about the safety of my wife if America goes hard xenophobic. While I'm 100% Yankee, she grew up in the middle east. She is a serious Christian, right-wing and a US citizen but she is visibly Arab and has an accent. I know it's not as bad as if she were east Asian but people will get nuts if the US looses a war with China. Any thoughts on how I can keep her safe in this scenario?

Top class analysis! Many might have found it blackpilling but if the war remains regional and we have the changes you described, I think that in the long term it will be a blessing in disguise.

Guarantee there are a couple of Boomers lurking around the Taiwan Strait that the US isn't telling anyone about. One cruise missile into the TGD and China is finished for three generations. Maybe even Rods from God nudge wink edit: posted this before Boomers were mentioned, but a conventional warhead on a cruiser into the TGD would do the job Excellent webinar

I am very surprised by the quality of this webinar, it was an excellent webinar, very developped

Good question: Their interests align, and they are philosophically not at odds. Hence this is a real alliance, not a tactical feint like the Nazi-Soviet pact.

I have a question. CRP just said that China and Russia are ‘friends’. That they don’t have to worry about one invading the other. The same was said about Germany and the Soviet Union before WWII. So what makes China and Russia different from Germany and the Soviet Union?

They're there. Wait for the stream to properly process on YT, it'll take a couple of hours.

Missing slide commentary for 1&2. Anyway to post the slides?

Jason RK

Easily one of my favorite webinars. For anyone in the comment section, imagine this like a history lesson that kept you wanting more.