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Pill Pod 32 - Accountability Studies (Exclusive)

Bit of a loose one here for ya'll as our minds fray at the edges. We went in without a plan because Erik needed the night off, and we ended up discussing pop Marcuse takes, holding ourselves accountable, and movies that Matt likes.

One question raised was whether it was worth it do unplanned chatter episodes when our plans fall apart, toss us your feedback on that if you have an opinion either way.

Pill Pod 32 - Accountability Studies (Exclusive)

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Personally, I love both episode types, the scripted and when you shoot the shit. You four have personalities that synergise really well together: the vibe is great and it was the main reason I binged the free podcast episodes initially. The Snyder Nut is a classic episode for that reason IMO. That said, when you decide to talk about something major like the Heidegger or Nietzsche overdoses, it's important that there is structure and planning (and Pills, you do a great job of bringing everybody back down to earth imo) so that us non-experts can learn all the important cornerstones of the project/concepts. Cause I imagine it's really easy for you post grads to just talk about the finer details of somebody like Nietzsche cause you've all got the core aspects of his thought down pat, but that's totally not the case for a lot of us plebs. And btw this is not boring, it's just that people have been dumbed tf down by the culture industry feeding them garbage all their lives and killing off their critical thinking faculties. Like where I'm from, I just spent almost a month non-stop hearing about the Eurovision and this in the midst of several scandals that would have resulted in a political crisis in saner countries, and I'm like if only people cared at least half as much about how badly their elected representatives were fucking them as they do about one of the contestants doing coke during the show. So yeah, elitist and proud at this point lol

anacidcommie

It's just a cheap beringer mic so it's not much. And yes, matt is incorrigible 😁

Plastic Pills

Nah your mic sounded pretty good. Matt’s was the least good (but thats probably because he is not speaking into it)

1DimeMan

Do you ask cuz it's good or cuz it's bad?

Plastic Pills

Pills what kind of Mic do you use?

1DimeMan

I think matt writes for jacobin, they covered him fairly well already 1) https://jacobinmag.com/2021/01/alexei-navalny-russia-protests-putin 2) https://www.jacobinmag.com/2021/03/alexei-navalny-russia-opposition

Rus Punk

Excellent

Plastic Pills

These kinda casts are great, this one particularly so. I highly value the scripted theory and prepared content but even those digress from time to time. If you're worried about "scuff", this is always acceptable for me because I'm fucking tired of charlatans and keeping it real lends the authenticity I desire. I also regularly manage to find little nuggets of inference tucked away in riffs here and there that might be to tangential to dig into at the time but that I'll research thereafter. This kinda flavor is more then welcome alongside the meat and potatoes.

GuLL

Matt mentioned it in passing, but you guys should look into what happened to Alexei Navalni - it involves a billion dollar palace on Black Sea, a mid-flight poisoning with a chemical weapon, a phone call to an FSB agent (Russian CIA). Mind blowing.

Gennadios

This was a fun listen. Id like more content like this. Im also a non academic, working class listener/viewer and find your works to be very interesting and entertaining (aside from the academia inside baseball stuff).

Joey McAuley

Thanks for getting back to us. We definitely are not gonna just hang out every week but still, it's better than trying to seminar each other. Cheers!

Plastic Pills

Same thing?

Plastic Pills

You should hear Matthew Modine's interviews about the number of shots that Kubrick did for each scene of Full Metal Jacket, madness.

Brandon Held

Nice show , no problem to speak off the cuff sometimes, we like it ! Pills is right that at this depth things are mainly boring , but then again any subject at a certain depth IS boring , talk about water treatment or wood preservation and it’s all boring deep enough where the experts are. There is no way to escape that in a complex society, it’s nothing to do with theory , that is just your field but we all see it. The rover in Mars seems exciting to people until they learn there is an engineering team for every inch of the rover. The problem is losing the wonder of the expert , if there is no trust in the expert and astronauts have to debate flat earthers on Twitter then it’s all a shit show. I hate the current arrangement because as someone with a PhD that publishes and reviews technical papers we know how hard things are to attain, and there is a wonder in knowing things deep as you do ... keep showing us you are fun experts!

Nacho

31m / marketer / no degree / working class / canadian I like the show a lot. I mostly listen to the show to keep tabs on Canadian political/philosophical thought. You guys are really interesting; easily the most subversive content i've heard from within this country outside my own circle of influence on the west coast. I've never been to a post-secondary school, so I don't find the "university" stuff very relatable when it comes up. I don't think one needs to have any experience with philosophical thought in order to engage with the show's ideas. The show's content is pretty easily digested and straightforward. My only selfish wish is that the show had a theologian that could help contextualize certain things in group discussions. I also don't think you need to be funny. Not that you aren't occasionally, but i think the sincerity of your interactions provides a platform for your audience to develop a parasocial bond.

realm lich

Re: the question of free speech I think it’s important to emphasize listening here, not just speech. So, for example, if I’m listening to someone I disagree with, can I discover how exactly they see the world through their “1st-person” perspective (and not just how I’m looking at them from my 3rd-person point of view)? I don’t need to agree with them, of course; but I want to at least find out *precisely* what I disagree about. Hard to do this. Requires skill and practice…

Michael

I can't offer as thoughtful a reply as Person2 but I surely wouldn't mind off-the-cuff, preferably drunken, bashing of Peterson et al. from time to time. The rage helps keep me warm during the interminable Chicago winters.

AlJacksonJr

Good to be afforded a view into the production process every so often. Don't mind this format at all.

Wayne Ha

Biology PHD student here — majored in critical theory for undergrad. You four keep me sharp on reading that I dearly miss and the conversational dynamic is a big part of that. You guys are the parasocial equivalent of heading to the bar after class with the TAs. To a lot of students, myself included, that’s where a lot of the learning happens. Developmental psychologists talk a lot about the role of ‘play’ in learning - super undervalued in higher education. And I’m a bit convinced kids that grow up with internet access can’t learn without a little play, or at least the illusion of it. At least in the humanities, access to smart people willing to shoot-the-shit about ideas is a huge part of what you’re paying for. In Stem its a little different, but far less than you might think. I had to cancel some field work due to covid - but I lost less progress to that than I did to bars closing and colleagues staying in. Your scripted, more formal stuff is hugely valuable and, IMO, kind of the future of non-tenure professorship. But the casual patron stuff is just as useful in a way, and importantly, even rarer to find outside of academic communities. Listening to y’all on my commute is the first time I’ve ever had second thoughts about going Stem, so well done!

Person2


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