Pill Pod 88 - Episode Zero (Exclusive)
Added 2022-07-29 17:52:01 +0000 UTCWe're tired of the script, and maybe you are too. In this episode we try to figure out what we care about in a world that we didn't design.
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Very happy to listen to broad cultural/humanities discussions! Lead on!
ThreeCorgisInATrenchcoat
2022-08-22 04:48:21 +0000 UTCAh thank you. Interesting mythology. Also looking forward to more varied content, my bread be feeling buttered.
Andrew Argraves
2022-08-16 01:47:36 +0000 UTCAh yes, it's "procrustean"
Plastic Pills
2022-08-13 01:10:38 +0000 UTCAt 101:27 there was a term that I didn't catch, "crustian bed"? "Percussion bed"?
Andrew Argraves
2022-08-13 01:08:20 +0000 UTCThose underscores around the book title were intended to signal my (pretension to) scholarly distinction by turning it into italics. Oh well. I also used the wrong preposition, lol.
milanjakob
2022-08-06 18:40:05 +0000 UTCHey PillPod. I'm in the process of reading an Adorno essay on engaged vs. autonomous art (mainly contending with Sartre), called Commitment, and it struck me as singularly suited for ushering in this new era of the podcast. It argues, e.g., that the two are more tightly dialectically entangled than one might think, that too strenuously committed art often fails to really be artistic, and that in form, not in content, is where the revolutionary potential of art lies. I'll leave a little quote to get you hyped up (also, cause you talked about planning to read Kafka): "Kafka’s prose and Beckett’s plays and his genuinely colossal novel The Unnamable have an effect in comparison to which official works of committed art look like children’s games—they arouse the anxiety that existentialism only talks about. In dismantling illusion they explode art from the inside, whereas proclaimed commitment only subjugates art from the outside, hence only illusorily. Their implacability compels the change in attitude that committed works only demand." If you're interested, I can provide a pdf of the translated text. It's collected in _Notes on Literature III_, Vol. 2 of the English version, or simply here: https://www.google.de/books/edition/Notes_to_Literature/HIp-DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=adorno+notes+to+literature&printsec=frontcover Peace!
milanjakob
2022-08-06 18:36:08 +0000 UTCBataille, Philip K. Dick, Simone Weil: some other interesting figures to discuss!
stoorzender
2022-08-04 16:59:17 +0000 UTCTbh I’m not really interested in politics, I really only listen for the philosophy. So I think it’s great that you are expanding
Oscar Faith-Ell
2022-08-03 22:26:10 +0000 UTCBlood Meridian is one of my favorite novels ever and I think it would be a great episode. Have you guys ever considered doing an episode on Bataille? He's close with the other French post-structuralists and specifically had an influence on Baudrillard and Derrida. I know Deleuze references Bataille somewhere in C&S too. But I feel like Bataille would be a great candidate for the direction you want to move in as he's closely intertwined with the theory we're all interested in but also has an esoteric side, concerned with ideas of the sacred and sensuality.
George Brown
2022-08-03 04:13:12 +0000 UTCGreat episode. I think ultimately you need to produce the content (sorry) that you want to produce, and not only make something because it's what's expected/demanded. And I think I never agreed with Victor more in that Diego Ruzzarin is a leftist in severe denial :D
anacidcommie
2022-08-02 12:56:16 +0000 UTCIt's incredible how many leftists still worship at the altar of science even now, as if it has no major flaws and can only be a force of good in the world.
anacidcommie
2022-08-02 12:54:04 +0000 UTCJust watched your old livestream “cybernetic brainwaves” for the first time where, serendipitously, you talk about Bateson and even connect him with Merleau-Ponty so I guess been there done that haha. I would of course still love a full podcast episode on him, I think he’s the most interesting of the early cyberneticians (Weiner, Beer, Neumann etc.) and victor might also enjoy reading him but I understand if you want to do something more new
Rockwell Gulassa
2022-08-01 19:07:41 +0000 UTCis this an opportunity to address Nick Land? Come on, Victor, you know you want to.
Gonzalo Pacheco Covili
2022-08-01 17:42:45 +0000 UTCOr, to be pedantic and do some more hatred or something, talk about the MBTI. (although is very good for aligning and working of characters of fiction or D&D campaings or other RPGs)
Gonzalo Pacheco Covili
2022-08-01 17:39:11 +0000 UTCThank you, a break is definitely a must these days. I know it must seem obvious, but I think if you want to watch some pop culture staple, you should watch/comment Everything Everywhere All At Once, even if multiverses are something of everywhere regarding the MCU, etc. (something the creators of EEAAO were aware of).
Gonzalo Pacheco Covili
2022-08-01 17:33:54 +0000 UTCA few recommendations: -You guys should definitely read Gregory Bateson, one of the founders of cybernetics and systems theory and an excellent writer, easy to read and incredibly creative ideas, even for systems theory. I think he could be connected to Merleau-Ponty and C.S Peirce (the latter of whom he references directly) and you guys could have a very stimulating conversation with his ideas. I’d recommend “Mind and Nature: A Necessary Unity” for a reading, it’s a breeze and chalk full of intriguing perspectives on systems and cybernetics. I think all three of you would really enjoy reading him. -I’d also love to hear you guys talk Bergson and more than just how the concept of duration differs from “spatialized” theories of time, I’d recommend “The Creative Mind” for a diverse collection of his often peculiar ideas. -And lastly I really want to plug Jason Mohaghegh, an Iranian Deleuzian in league with Negerastani, who does a lot of work on madness and lies. He’s one of the most beautiful writers I’m aware of in the theory world and I think he would spark some really interesting conversations. For him I’d recommend his first book “The Chaotic Imagination”. I’m a long time fan, listened to every episode (barring a few politics ones) and I really think you guys would enjoy these authors so I hope you consider them! Thanks for taking the time to read this
Rockwell Gulassa
2022-08-01 16:39:45 +0000 UTCI needed to hear a lot of this, especially about writing, stepping away, etc. Thanks guys. As someone else said, I’d love to hear some Kafka episodes. Also, when a fiction episode is coming, it’d be great if you could let us know a bit in advance so we can try to read it ahead of time.
Jonathan White
2022-08-01 14:29:22 +0000 UTCPill Pod hitting its Thousand Plateaus era.
Zack Klug
2022-08-01 12:49:08 +0000 UTCGreat idea
Matthew
2022-08-01 05:38:23 +0000 UTCI would love to see LitVik on for a Blood Meridian episode. I'll feel like a psychopath if I say it's one of my favorites, but I would love to hear your thoughts in any case.
Henry Miller
2022-08-01 03:38:49 +0000 UTCLibVic's analogy (53:09 onwards) on more esoteric, theorerical STEM works showing themselves to be useful in clinical and engineering later on is spot on. STEMcuck academia even calls discovery-based work "basic research", which carries a lot of baggage & worsens that bias towards application & business-friendly science. Excited for the coming chapter!
Miguel de Jesus
2022-07-31 23:06:34 +0000 UTCOh an episode on The Expanse book series would be wonderful for us sci-fi geeks.
Dony Top5
2022-07-31 21:27:28 +0000 UTCReally great as well and extremely validating. Really enjoy the personal content. Extremely insightful
Matt S
2022-07-31 17:00:19 +0000 UTCJust started it, digging the whole fuck the content cycle and do whatever. Roll the dice and affirm chance
Ian Banghart
2022-07-31 16:15:23 +0000 UTCVictor sounded mad Canadian this episode
Kyle Brown
2022-07-31 02:26:11 +0000 UTCI fully support the new direction you assert your commitment to in your latest podcast, I am here for not listening to you guys not making commentary on politics and focusing on other stuff. I am a literature person at heart so my suggestions are all in that vein. Blood meridian is an amazing text and I would love to hear a podcast about that text. Kafka, especially if you are going to talk about Derrida on Kafka. Kristeva wrote a book about Dostoevsky not too long ago that I don’t feel equal to reading but I would love to listen to a podcast about it. Helene cixous on Clarice Lispector, or just Helene Cixous in general, her writing is exquisite. Maurice Blanchot. The book that Nancy and Lacoue-Labarthe wrote about the Jena Romantics that is all about genre. The text that Derrida wrote about genre. Walter Benjamin on German Trauerspiel. James Joyce. Virginia Woolf. Danilo Kis. Edmond Jabes. George Moore. Fernando Pessoa. Malcolm Lowry. Anna Kavan. J G Ballard. Herman Melville (more). Samuel Beckett. George Eliot. Colson Whitehead. Sylvia Plath. Gustave Flaubert. Marcel Proust. I had to cancel my patronage temporarily, so perhaps my opinions about what I would be interested in are not super important right now, but I will most likely be back, I am just very poor and have to limit myself to paying for one podcast at a time so my plan is to just shift between the podcasts I listen to.
Sarah Oates
2022-07-31 00:33:30 +0000 UTCI’m down for the Art, literature, theory fiction etc, sounds good! Also, and maybe this is something I should seek elsewhere, but the vast majority of what I consume (for a bunch of different reasons) tends to be old, western, white guys…I would love to learn more about Feminist philosophy, Post Colonialism, Black Marxism etc, so any moves in that direction would be awesome.
Travis
2022-07-30 17:29:58 +0000 UTCI am here for this!
Ethan Taylor
2022-07-30 15:39:19 +0000 UTCI know Pills has been going down this route already, but talking about cosmic horror would be interesting
Austin Krieger
2022-07-30 15:19:07 +0000 UTCI wanna see some poetry that could be cool. And some mystical stuff
Socialswine
2022-07-30 07:22:06 +0000 UTCSo buttered Rn
Socialswine
2022-07-30 05:23:22 +0000 UTCAlright, last one, because it's Friday, and I'm high... Couldn't you all just become bodies without organs, tape that process? That'd be a pretty cool experiment haha
ageOfBumFires
2022-07-29 23:14:29 +0000 UTCI've also wondered why I haven't really encountered "music" on here, that much or really at all? That seems to be a largely unexplored territory? You did cover that I believe hip-hop collective, and that was super interesting. Stuff like that, or cover aspects such as: use of music by revolutionaries, lyrical analysis, the capture of music as yet another capital, instrument types, their historical development and use in social, religious, fascist, socialist contexts. The analysis of throat singing as a schizophrenic desiring-machine or some shit. The influence of sound vs sight in our everyday life, psychology, and saying like "I see what you're saying" vs "I hear what you're saying." Do those really represent two different things or are they two similar things? I think that would be super interesting and useful in a practical sense. Like, you could even invite musical guests that are, you know, on that "next level" and not just pumping out mainstream bullshit. Get Kurt Vile on your show. He'd be great. Oh, and for nirvana's sake, get a Buddhist on the podcast already haha. I am absolutely sure that you could be making *in real time* connections to all the stuff you've covered in the past as the discussion goes on. That's one I think you could really let rip in. Just have fun with whatever you do, play with it, let it fucking rip.
ageOfBumFires
2022-07-29 22:12:16 +0000 UTCPotentially new avenues I’d definitely find interesting: *First, because it may be overlooked, episodes just like this. Honest assessment of the frustrations, the unknowns of how/where to go next. Candid conversations like this bring up very good connections and ideas in themself. * “They Live” man on the street segments, where you augment reality video edit to show underpinnings of whatever you come across in your daily life, making connections to myth, religion, philosophy, etc. Simulate the glasses in novel ways. Per your previous video comment about being at the baseball game and seeing beneath all these things no one else seems to notice. Perhaps use the glasses in an “unflattening of reality” way. Visualize/imagine the unflattening of reality around you. *If anyone on the Pod is a fan then maybe Evangelion? Or is that too obvious/all over the place in terms of its philosophical/religious references? Has plenty of Sefirot/ Kabbalah. *Fiction concerning “what comes after the revolution.” Create the sequel for V for Vendetta, etc. Or just a pod of what does “after the revolution” look like to each of you? *Exploring various religious practices’ claim and descriptions of “pure consciousness” experience and practices that supposedly lead to it. *Exploring techno-feudalism and “post property” potential of a 100% rent reality. The cyclical nature of various stages such as feudalism, and how older systems could re-emerge and displace capitalism. *Something I’m exploring recently is reading texts and making drawings of what I’m reading. Akin to https://happysleepy.com/art/drawing-thousand-plateaus/ *Doing “The Onion” but from your angle of hitting these humanistic nerves but from a philosophical underpinning. I think that could be very fun. You could even use Onion Headlines as the starting source material and explore those directly, since they already do hit the nerve, but they don’t really explain the underpinnings. *Exploring further/tweaking that guided meditation to philosophical excerpts idea you tried before. *Terrance McKenna...mushrooms...history of how alcohol displaced psychoactive compounds in society and ceremony. I think this one would be super cool.
ageOfBumFires
2022-07-29 21:10:24 +0000 UTChup hup!
Plastic Pills
2022-07-29 20:00:46 +0000 UTCNice conversation! Was helpful to hear openly about the struggles regarding writing. All the best with it Curious about the new experimental route you are about to the take. I’ll stick around for sure, only Patreon account I havent unsubscribed from after a month, been listening for like a year now. Look forward to the Kafka episode. Finished The Trial some months ago and been reading some short stories like The Hunger Artist. Good stuff Some topics that might be interesting and are more or less non-political: Augustine, Hölderlin, gnosticism, Lovecraft, Meister Eckhart, Dostojevski Best regards from The Netherlands
stoorzender
2022-07-29 19:59:48 +0000 UTC
