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Pill Pod 75 - Prepostposthumanism (Exclusive)

Pills and Erik longwindedly answer the charge that posthumanism is a performative contradiction, because it's good actually.

If you are interested in posthumanism, this is the book you need https://amzn.to/3tYzGeO, which was referenced by Erik a couple times.

Pill Pod 75 - Prepostposthumanism (Exclusive)

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Zachary Manenti

Is there a Louis Althusser episode which I missed earlier? I ask for the four of you mention him from time to time. I am also loosely aware of him for his works touched / influenced other people's work but my knowledge is still kind of basic. *thank you*

Matthew Theisen

It's already been confirmed that Kant invented CRT, so ofc he's a communist! I feel like Victor and Matt ignored Erik's and subsequently Pills' points about posthumanism having practical implications on the political and the personal to keep defending their liberal humanist positions tbh. Because one of the main things I took away from Pills' videos on humanism and posthumanism is that part of the reason modernity created so many major crises in the past and the present is the elevation of the human above and apart from the natural world. Regarding contradictions, I think D&G said it best: "No one has ever died from contradictions." Also, if you agree with Deleuze in that you believe philosophy is essentially the creation of concepts, then how can you remove ideas from that? You can't have a concept without ideas, and philosophy to me seems like nothing but ideas about pretty much any topic under the sun. Definitely a lot of interesting stuff brought up here, now I need to look up the difference between post and antihumanism.

anacidcommie

that would require fixing the libs

anacidcommie

B for based

anacidcommie

Pills why don’t you like Jane Bennett?

Jonathan White

Philosophy is writing. This has me wondering what constitutes writing. The Gunditj-Mirring people of Victoria have oral stories of volcanic activity at a local volcano that geologists say occurred 34k years ago. Australian First Nation people talk of singing country- a ritualised method of preserving ideas and beliefs in speech; culture situated in country. Claire Colebrook talks of the ‘The Anthropocene’, a proposed geological epoch, as human society leaving a record that would be readable by an imagined future geologist-not necessarily human. So we go from the geological reading that underpins Meillassouxs’ Ancestrality to becoming aware that we are writing into that record whilst knowing that, at some point, there will probably be no humans to read it. “What we should not do is try to retrieve or repair a proper human vision; nor should we think, too easily, that we have abandoned human myopia once and for all.” Colebrook ‘Death of the Posthuman’ 2014

Peter Haggar

Triple O is a fast food restaurant in Canada so I don't think that'll work for us, sorry 😀

Plastic Pills

I love this post, but can you please call object-oriented ontology “triple O”? Harman, Morton, and other OOO scholars claim this is the correct way to pronounce OOO.

Horchata For Blood

Rats and babies. Non human animals weigh as much in our moral calculations as human animals and therefor we should sacrifice the human with the same bloodlust as we sacrifice the non human. This episode’s vibe as tasty af

Zack Klug

What do you think is going to happen if you centre all ethics on a war-prone ape fuelled by an insatiable void? Victor's happy to do that because he finds Deleuzians smug, and (Pillpod) Matt is happy relying on the self-awareness of beings he well knows can only build inaccurate simulations, which seems like a greater performative contradiction (although still within writing). If everything we influence depends on humans to function, but no individual human is indispensable, then you're talking about humans only as a multiplicity, and including all the post-human systems anyway, meaning that they can't be "the other". If you see these systems as things that "humans do" and not things that "do humans" then you're turning a blind eye to their (and the accompanying ways of thinking's) potential to manage the world in a healthier way.

Alex B

Yes please

Peter Haggar

Not through the ep yet but a big part of posthumanism to someone like guattari or Deleuze is that we have always been post human-centric, but also always post-center, that convergence is always secondary to divergence

Ian Banghart

that bit about Matt and being careful @ 52:00 was great, also having the reaction to the guest as an episode is imo a great idea

Ian Banghart

Invite Braidotti please. Great clash that would be especially with Victor. Erik is the star of the show, recently he also lead the show very well

Johannex

bro I hope we fix the record on the anti-deleuze agenda in the interview in this ep

agrippa

extremely hoodwinked over here

realm lich

Let me know if you want an overdose of "What is Posthumanism" and I'll ask Erik if he wants to reread it :)

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