Pill Pod 139 - Myth of the Self II: Narcissus (Exclusive)
Added 2023-09-22 23:51:17 +0000 UTCMore self myths, from life coaches to Hegelians. This is the second part of our myths of the self bouncing around between technological posthumanism and the California self factory.
Comments
Can we get an episode of Eric retelling greek myths with more voice acting?
Moon Hop
2023-11-22 09:59:07 +0000 UTCOh like playing with light and project a bodie shadow in a wall to dance with it. It's like an unknown external being. I don't know how sane is to do that 😅, but it's kind of fun
Mapita
2023-10-04 16:10:15 +0000 UTCI had a friend who was dancer that talked about a projected self that imagines your movements as they look externally. He was also very convinced by dancing that the mind and body are indivisibly one.
Alex B
2023-10-03 10:32:06 +0000 UTCI remember an old sculpture from a church that had a soul floating out of someone's chest (like a baby xenomorph), it was a miniature of the person, which at a time when relative size in art often described importance, was almost a self awareness that the soul is just one of the many fundamentally incomplete overlapping images that we consist of. Pills' self help bonzai self reminds me of that sculpture, a pitiful cursed stunted self trapped in a miasma of fatigue, hounding you to replenish your deficit of contemporary wellness fads.
Alex B
2023-10-03 10:18:51 +0000 UTChttps://youtube.com/watch?v=84n07mR9_hQ&si=Cd05CZdLonmfHqAi
Mapita
2023-09-29 23:52:32 +0000 UTCThere is this creative dancing excersice that consist in performing as the mirror for the other dancer which he or she will perform as your mirror. The idea is to follow the movements you see, the slower the movement the easiest is to follow. There is music, so the bodies respond to the music and to the mirror/dancer, a dancing mirror! haha. Also the idea is to make like a trajectory moving from one point to another,. usually is just like a straight line because is the easiest to follow. Imagine all that is going on in there! The bodies doesn't touch of course.
Mapita
2023-09-29 21:24:11 +0000 UTCA river becomes enchanted when it flows as it chooses, reciprocity with its environment maximising its capacity to host complex life. Rivers of desire flow through orders of information. Imposed simplification, an illusion of efficiency, demands maintenance, accelerates flow, increases flooding and poisons the water.
Alex B
2023-09-29 08:35:50 +0000 UTC. pils bit about Augustine v innaresting… ok it got better. recount of tiresias was 😎 . since narcissism as a term gains prominence in 20th C thru Freud, So it is a kind of psychoanalytic concept. That said ( and w Lacan’s development) it makes sense that Narcissus is a myth about psychoanalytic narcissism. in the myth N. has a plenitude of self ( tho he cant be conscious of it bc he would need reflection which he literally does not ‘want.’ ). in other words for N. there is no ‘other/Other’ , who would introduce a lack/desire in relationship with the self which is simultaneously produced. Self is a relation, a dialectic even, with the other. This is what Echo punishes him for in part. The plenitude. He does not desire. Also, In a sense he has not gone thru a mirror phase. Then thru the reflection in the water ( yes a mirror, a technology, but one found in nature… ) he sees a reflection that is his own face ( it speaks to the fact we cannot see our own face but thru the other who is also then at times a mirror. ) But w the technology, u can see another who is not a ‘true’ other. Difference is key. Thus, Narcissus does tell the story of narcisissm. Rather than misrecognizing himself in an other who is different from himself. He takes himself as the other. Narcissism: you take yourself for the object, you (mis) recognize yourself in yourself. And your libido etc is directed to the abjet a which is the self. An asociality of the function. There is no other/Other. nice use of kaja silverman def of ‘subject’ivity ( Lacanian really) putting those disciplines as knotting subjectivity….thanks seems like mccluhan reverses the mirror stage in technology… we create it but we dont recognize ourselves in our objects ( technology mediums) , it takes on an autonomy, it/they become an other that doesnt reflect us… we withdraw the mirror aspect. blinding us to the relationship with technology. OR the autoamputation is a form of repression… the externalization of the psyche. yeah, do what u can.
Zachary Manenti
2023-09-24 22:38:13 +0000 UTCMyth of the self part III: Anattā? 👉👈🥹 Eric's Narcissus voice acting was top notch 😅. The last bit about 'self' being a refuge has a certain longevity through time, with different conceptions of the 'self' or place of refuge being variable, and the desire for refuge, peace, safety, stability, meaning, purpose being a relative constant, and then a differentiation of whether or not this desire is confused or not in it's origin. A good example is the Buddhist teaching of being an island unto yourself, which is anything but say the rugged individualism of present day despite the connotations. A "short" videos 😅: https://youtu.be/UBI-hsLPg50?si=7Siqm4eMX_px3_B2 https://youtu.be/lxsmVc2Adyg?si=le9NaX9lsbq2txza
ageOfBumFires
2023-09-24 13:31:55 +0000 UTCGreat episode. I really enjoyed the Greek/Roman mythology.
Timothy Kenner
2023-09-23 19:05:28 +0000 UTCYou have hit on a point, I thought about. The internal of the room/mind encloses the subject, and ought to protect them from the environment. But the subject celebrates the concept of interiority without realizing that it is a symbol of their powerlessness. Even the JP's "clean your room" and a mixture of Buddhism/Stoicism with authenticity is sort of a celebration of powerlessness in capitalist society.
TheUltimateBird
2023-09-23 09:17:29 +0000 UTC
