Pill Pod 147 - Authenticity ™ (Patron Exclusive)
Added 2023-11-17 16:22:43 +0000 UTCDr. Phil and Existentialism for Zoomers (find the homework attached)
Dr. Phil: “The authentic self is the you that can be found at your absolute core. It is the part of you that is not defined by your job, or your function, or your role. It is the composite of all your unique gifts, skills, abilities, interests, talents, insights, and wisdom. It is all your strengths and values that are uniquely yours and need expression, versus what you have been programmed to believe that you are “supposed to be and do.” It is the you that flourished. unself-consciously, in those times in your life when you felt happiest and most fulfilled.”
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It was through that zoomer podcast that I found this podcast so I thought you were good on it Pills
Matt
2024-06-04 06:16:39 +0000 UTCErik yes, Victor no lmao and it's not just cause he's a lib, but because even theoretically speaking, he doesn't fit with Pills and Erik: he doesn't do postmodernism, semiotics, Marx, systems theory, etc. I've gotten way more insight (and good sociopolitical takes) from Diego despite him being on not more than 5 episodes for now tbh
anacidcommie
2023-11-24 16:24:40 +0000 UTCI’d say, what we’re all doing here with this podcast is kinda ‘authentic’. no? Pils: California style Weltgeist pretty much sums it up. True what Eric points out in MH, experience is key. Erfahrung vs. Erlebnis… with California Erfahrung having taken over all of the experiential domain. Hence, CA style Weltgeist. Great job summarizing H’s authenticity. Derrida critiques the own most own, proper, property of the thrown Subject. Obviously Lacan as well.
Zachary Manenti
2023-11-23 17:41:27 +0000 UTCVictor’s reading, of Heidegger‘s authenticity is Dr. Phil, I am afraid. Oh, and you are correct Pils, I believe, in pointing to Lacan. Certainly anybody who reads theory ought not to forget, “Desire is the desire of the Other’ And though we can learn a lot from a certain historical contextualization, i.e. ‘youth culture, ‘etc. that can’t really address the philosophical question at hand. And maybe that’s all you can do is kind of pose the question and the address. I don’t know yes, the counterculture failed, but it’s not a good excuse to just give up on us “not selling out“. And of course, what the fuck not selling out even means, I don’t know, I refer to Baudrillard title ‘Fatal strategies’ , that ‘not selling out’ comes down to strategy and tactics produced out of a rigorous kind of thinking/ethics/aesthetics. I don’t know. All I know is not to give up on not selling out, but that it’s not from the authentic pov. Maybe more ‘ don’t give way on desire….. i dont know.
Zachary Manenti
2023-11-23 16:32:31 +0000 UTCAlso, Pils Pod offers an education, or at least some thing different from total auto didacticism. Disappointed as we must be by the value of education, for real, what do you get from the Academy? Other than a career track. And as career tracks go it is not the best paid. Do you get educated? I think people drawn to this podcast are also those who would or might have pursued a more disciplined and funded, let’s say, academic/university path if it practically existed, but obviously the academy as institution collapsed in its master’s discourse to begin with but at least that could be deconstructed, but then totally into its being nothing but a talk show celebrity type cash cow, with all its star personality academics, it’s not worth the price of admission if u r interested in knowledge and not just information. So the podcast supplements as an address to the deficit in education to some degree. And of course, that’s also the limitation of the podcast for good or for bad.
Zachary Manenti
2023-11-22 22:19:56 +0000 UTCi agree. And I would include Eric and Victor for the podcast content part of the Pils world bubble.
Zachary Manenti
2023-11-22 20:28:20 +0000 UTCWe all have filtered selves, masks for different situations that contradict other social games/performativities. Eg. the way we behave with babies, outlaws, or anonymous online avatars should be very different. If you get intoxicated enough to shed these filters, you end up being filtered anyway by what you can no longer do (eg. walk). Maybe self-authenticity can be worthwhile as a level of emotional openess that comfortably uninhibits desire/creativity but stops before reaching a descent into death drive?
Alex B
2023-11-22 10:20:20 +0000 UTCWell damn that's validating! 🙏
Plastic Pills
2023-11-21 11:43:14 +0000 UTCAs a person without a philosophy degree, what I expected from philosophy was a better understanding of the world, a frame of reference that helps me make sense of my experiences, and finally, a concrete way to help materially improve the world. And tbh, I feel like it's helped in all of the above, even though the answers can sometimes be bleak af or hard to swallow. Speaking personally, it's definitely provided me with a sense of purpose I lacked for a long time, and in this way, I can definitely say that it saved me. Or to be more specific, that this channel did, because without it, I don't think I would have gotten into it so much. So thanks for being such an inspiration, Pills.
anacidcommie
2023-11-21 10:57:12 +0000 UTCIf Philosophy(TM) is almost completely analogous with metaphysics, would Deleuze be the last philosopher?
anacidcommie
2023-11-21 10:51:50 +0000 UTCHI
Plastic Pills
2023-11-20 16:11:50 +0000 UTCIf I could, I would dare Dr. Phil to watch 'im not longer here' and tell me HOW Ulises could keep expressing his absolute inner core
Mapita
2023-11-18 19:11:55 +0000 UTCGeorg Moeller's work on "profilicity" deals with a lot of these issues about "self" and identity in am interesting way. His book "Genuine Pretending" is well worth a read and might be a decent intro to Taoist philosophy.
Joe Green
2023-11-18 04:17:44 +0000 UTCthe ‘need’ for deep meaning shit, meaning in that sense, IMO, comes from humanity’s inflated sense of self importance. It’s its narcissism, that humanity, or better humanism a la UaSsA neo lib late capitalism and its Alts is a not lacking, and certainly is lacking in humility. But this narcissism has been there a long ass time… i reference Brecht’s version of Galileo. As to the questiom of not calling yourself a philosopher or whatever, it seems quite apparent you are following what you have worked though via the thinkers you reason w, and worked out in your ‘own’ work, taking seriously those thinkers, like Heidy, Jacques’, Deleuze, who think a paradox of being counter philosophical philosophers for all the writing and thinking and speaking the pils podcast crew explicates. In other words, u dis-identify with the ‘project’ of western philosophy as it has come down the pike the last centuries…. Also, this disaster referred to happened before Oprah…. O …. prah. But I agree that she is the Uber- influencer, par excellence. And… what we see now also happened to Freud’s work… w the neo Freudians. (thinking of the story of when Freud and Jung were taking the trip to USA on a ship in the NY harbor seeing the statue of liberty and saying, purportedly, ‘the americans don’t know we r bringing the plague,’ (but America is Oedipus… and shut the mouth of the sphinx, to continue with the, ok, the somewhat different yet totally familiar plague, its motifs and mythology). Thus, ‘the issue’ is deeply structured in capitalism’s and humanism’s pathological narcissism: in a word, the over investment (and under inversement), its religious belief in the Ego ( will, intention, Self, what have u and its substantializing (commodification). But what does the human really do? It stumbles, it stutters, it drops the $6 blueberries on the floor ( I just did that), it makes mistakes, etc. I take my cue (when I can) from Beckett and Lewis Carroll (a stutterer btw): it’s all non sense but at the cleverest level of human skill, so crack some great jokes….. and in the jokes there may be a ‘whiff’ of something, let’s not call it being, perhaps. But all this O + tik tok is rooted, let us say, in the desire to ‘not suffer,’ to heal, which, sadly, has come to mean, ‘to be whole.’ Which sadly means the whole ego, the ego as the plug in the hole. and the de-education of the public rises to what is easiest to grasp, understand, brand and commodify in image and sound. P.s. I am familiar w ‘the law of attraction’…a part of me only wishes to be a greater recipient of its magic, alas….my vision board sucks w contradiction and paradox.
Zachary Manenti
2023-11-18 00:12:17 +0000 UTCHi Pills
Ashley H
2023-11-17 18:45:02 +0000 UTC18:00 "what does someone without a master's degree in philosophy come to philosophy for?" This is me. I came here (literally, and philosophy in general) for generating insight, concentration and mindfulness primarily concerning the world and time into which I have been thrown, primarily for the cessation of suffering. That and I find it more interesting than 99.99% of any other media I could subject myself to. I laughed at the beginning when you said you were done with philosophy, and then them calling it out as another round of your angst. I said something similar to my family a couple holidays ago when I was drunk, aftering finishing Being and Time, something like, "I'm done reading, I'm simply going to exist now." Here I am, still reading 😑 To end, I enjoyed the bits on 1st and 3rd person perspectives... This was a bit akin to what I was rambling about in the chat a while back: This is a half baked thought/question, definitely was not able to put the marrow into words The perception or thought experiement of seeing other people (for this experiment strictly "strangers") as part of the world you perceive, in a completely flat way, meaning people are not elevated in foreground/background but are given equal weighting; they are absorbed into the world of things. Now imagine you are one of those "flat" people, in another's view, in another's world where you are essentially reduced to an NPC yourself and passively act the part simply thru of a lack of interaction or attention, a lack of spontaneity. Would perceiving things this way, from either perspective, be considered some type of mental illness? Is it a symptom of "the screen" which flattens everything, people and all, into a world with no being or time of it's own, into a scene. Is there any worth or potential in shifting our axis of consciousness from 1st to 3rd person perspective? Of not looking with your own eyes but rather looking with the eyes of the scene-master which cast you in it's play as a background actor, and deciding to act accordingly (or not...).
ageOfBumFires
2023-11-17 18:37:50 +0000 UTCComplaining about “selling out” is not just about the money and popularity of course. It is about “authenticity” in the sense that to become popular, and receive the money you usually have to change your style and sound. To change style and sound to become more “mainstream” is considered like spitting in the face of the original fans who first carried the band. Of course bands develop, change, and experiment but when it is for the money and wider popularity rather than for the art it is “selling out”. Someone might preemptively say an artist “sold out” once they sign to a major labor. It’s very predictive of actually “selling out”
Qoheleth
2023-11-17 18:25:34 +0000 UTC
